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Post by: Suicidal Cheez
They look very badass! I love them!
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Post by: Waaagh_Gonads
I'll leave this thread as the DE rumours thread was about .... well rumours and this is NEWS!
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Also via Warseer user Gedara has posted a heap of DE pics. (I don't have the time to save and attach the pics, if someone else could I would be most grateful)
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277006
And to think back in May people dind't believe me when I said that the new warriors looked like the pic in the rulebook.
HA!
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Also note the crosbow like appendage on the end of the splinter rifle above.
DOUBLE HA!
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Post by: VikingScott
I like the 2Handed sword dude plus the new reaver bike. the Raider not so much.
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Post by: blood reaper
OMG They look amazing!
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Post by: Nick Ellingworth
Absolutely beautiful models. The long wait seems to have been worthwhile.
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Post by: Bloodwin
There's a GW newsletter email today with those pics in. I'm not that fussed about these DE, I don't like the bones on the wyches but I'm pleased they now have a decent contrast to the Craftworld Eldar.
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
Excellent
except the sail on the Raider (leave off and will look ace)
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
I'm liking that Jetbike very much - it has the bones of the Eldar prototype that we saw 3 (4?) years ago. I look forward to the next Eldar Codex release, when presumably, we'll see the CWE version.
Model-wise, I also like the Warrior and Incubi - very nice sculpts, tho the heads are pretty uniformly a bit too plain for my tastes.
The Archon and Wyches don't do anything for me, and the Raider simply does not impress.
Also, it looks like this stuff will be transportable without destroying itself. 
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
This IS my 2nd 40k army.
Excellent work Jes and Co. Well done GW!
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Post by: His Master's Voice
Lelith looks lithe. If the plastic wytches look half as good...
And it looks like the Riders indeed do have hanger-on crew, which is all kinds of cool, but will mean I won't be able to model even a single one without tilting in on the flying base for maximum scenic impact.
The Warrior, Mandrake, Incubi and bike all look very good, though I don't actually see the reason for the gold paint job on the first model's head. Kind of detracts from an otherwise very nice sculpt.
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Post by: blackclaw1
Where did you get that from ? , no saying its not tru just cause you say at the top , newsletter subscribers an i dont have it in my email (yet) , the jet bikes look increible
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Post by: TsarNikolai
WOW!
...err...be right back i need to change my underwear 
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
The raider looks much improved, more like the Jabba's Sail Barge that was often talked about but the original figures failed on. The sail doesn't look quite right, it either needs to be made bigger or removed.
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Post by: Xanthos
Well well well.... I never thought I´d see the day when I could honestly say I like DE models.
But these I like!!
The raider does have a bit of a "Jabba Barge" feel to it, but that could be negated by getting rid of the sail, or enhanced by throwing on some more sails, and scantily clad slave girls...
Jetbikes look absolutely delicious! I Need some.
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Post by: InventionThirteen
I just died.
Someone get me a coffin.
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Post by: His Master's Voice
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xoosGkBROvM/TJ8IOeK67MI/AAAAAAAAAPA/WCL94niCUcE/s1600/Tapatalk.jpg
Lelith is officially the best female model GW ever did.
Also, the chick with the headbag on her with funky claws - is that a Wych or a mandrake?
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Post by: Tri
Wow they look good and its been so long since GW gave them any love.
Hope they keep their tagline ... they wouldn't be the same without the immortal words "Pray they don't take you alive"
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Post by: JacobHoff
ARGH!!! the Incubi looks so amazing!!!
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Post by: greenbay924
Bravo, I hope I can get rid of my Space wolves stuff in time to start these bad boys (girls?) up!
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Post by: SilverMK2
Not so keen on the transports (which IMO look pretty stupid) or the jetbikes (which look very unbalanced). However, the sword guys look good, and I am "meh" on the wytches.
Might make fun conversions into other things (especially daemonettes and perhaps even certain Eldar units).
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Post by: His Master's Voice
Before anyone asks, these are RESIN version of the Incubi, not plastic.
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Post by: Anung Un Rama
Wow! Those really look like Dark Eldar. They clearly have a similar style to the Eldar range, but but still a distinct feel.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
What they have done is maintained certain familiarity with the previous range, which they didn't have to do in fairness. That bound them to a certain extent to an ugly old range.
And they still make them totally beautiful. Skillz indeed!
MINE MINE MINE!!
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Post by: Erasoketa
FINALLY!
Raiders look like bigger than the old ones, I might buy only one for my Archon and stick with the old ones for my units. Building and painting five of this vehicles might take a lot of time.
I'm in love with all the other stuff. I'll probably buy one of each unit or mini to share the battlefield with my oldies.
Are you sure that the barefoot Wych is Laelith? I love the mini and I'm buying it for sure, but I think that one could spect a wider range of weaponry in that mini. Also I'm delighted that female models don't look like having breast implants, and still look great.
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Post by: LunaHound
They dont look too evil , but must say the design is aesthetically pleasing and the quality is also nice.
My favorite so far are the wyches , really dynamic poses for plastics , and the raiders too ( need more sails ! )
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Post by: DiscoVader
They look fantastic. Goodwin did an absolutely fantastic job sculpting these models, he's managed to turn the black sheep of GW into what is likely going to be one of the best looking out of all the armies so far.
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Post by: His Master's Voice
Well, the so far only disappointment for me is that Lelith looks sooooo much better than the plastic female wytches in her skimpy yet throughly breast covering outfit, I'll have to sculpt some new torsos just to make them match. But then again, I'd do it anyway so whatever.
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Post by: Rinkydink
They look great!
The wyches in particular. I also like the sails! Ahoy matey...
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Post by: Albatross
I think they look fething awesome. And I like the sails.
Also, surprised no-one's really mentioned the excellent cover artwork. I think it's one of the best ever.
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Post by: His Master's Voice
It's Dainton. Of course it's excellent.
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277006
Some sprue shots of the Raider and pics of other minis
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
I don't think much of the wyches. For some reason they ignored people's requests and have stuck a load of male figures in the box and then clad everyone in lots of modesty armour. They only look a bit less armoured than the warriors and the females don't look feminine.
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Post by: Trilobite
Sweet jebus, these are sexy.
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Post by: Sarigar
Ever since WD 127, I've been a big fan of Jes Goodwin and the Eldar. He's now put his magic touch on their darker kin and it looks fantastic. I'm hoping the Codex will be as good as these models as I'd love to read the new spin on them.
Great pics and great looking models all around. The new Jetbike is definitely my top of the list favorite.
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Post by: Waaagh_Gonads
Erasoketa wrote:
Should be 'JES, HE CAN!'
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Post by: nyyman
Absolutely gorgeous models!
Guys, I thought my FaBa career just ended...
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Post by: rodgers37
Why don't i have the email yet :(
The Archon, Incubi and Lelith models all look AMAZING....
The Raider, has a nice 'im not going to fit into your case' look about it....
The warriors are pretty sweet as well....
I wish it was full release day today :(
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Post by: BrookM
Chances are general release will be the 6th of November, the first Saturday of the month.
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Post by: Erasoketa
Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Erasoketa wrote:*silly pic*
Should be 'JES, HE CAN!'
But then it wouldn't sound exactly the same :S But yes, it looks better 
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
Look stunning, and my beloved definately approves, so she'll be going Dark Eldar this year. My Orcs are looking forward to new pansies to Krunch.
My future Guard army however, are preparing to hide in the shattered rements of their world, making sure they have that 'last' round in the pistol if a Dark Eldar gets to close. 
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
Jes He...
Sounds like Jessie
Which is Northern for soft lad!
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Post by: Erasoketa
Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Jes He...
Sounds like Jessie
Which is Northern for soft lad!
 I'm not doing more versions LOL
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
Erasoketa, He won't!
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Post by: xowainx
Having seen these in the flesh about an hour ago, and having just seen the pictures on my Blackberry, I have to say the pictures don't do justice to just how good looking the models really are (especially the jetbikes, they completely blew me away). The only thing that didn't totally inspire me was the Raider, but it's hardly a bad sculpt. Can't wait to read the codex now to see how their background has fleshed out.
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Post by: JOHIRA
I saw the jetbike and without thinking shouted, "Crikey!"
Lelith is impressive. Like, really impressive. She gets right just about everything that GW normally gets wrong. The pose has motion, apart from her hair (which as an Eldar, is forgivable) nothing about her is ridiculous, she has a facial expression that indicates emotion other than shouting. She's just great. And being barefooted is a nice touch.
I love the archon with the bone sword. The basic warrior is ace. I think the Incubi would be great without the horns, but that's easily remedied. Not so excited about the wyches, but they are obviously well-made. Just not my thing. I love the raider.
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Post by: olympia
Those look great. Everyone does realize, I hope, that DE will not be getting another update for at least 25 years.
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Post by: Acardia
I'm wowed, I have too many armies, but wow I'm impressed.
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Post by: Popsicle
Whoa, heck, there goes my wallet. 
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Post by: SaintHazard
Acardia wrote:I'm wowed, I have too many armies, but wow I'm impressed.
YOU have too many armies?!
DE will be my seventh! 
Ninth if you count my partial IG and Nid armies!
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Post by: kanelom
This is everything I've dreamed of since their release alongside the black templars in the starters set back in 98-99.. I feel 12 again... but this time my bank account can handle this!!!
WHY was my son born BEFORE the release!?!?! WHY!?!
Must... pre order... now...
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Post by: Eberious
Hmmm... little unimpressed to be honest, sadly. I'll have to save my final judgement till I see them in my local GW. At least my wallet seems safe for now.
Only two that raises any intrest is the bikes and Lelith Hesperax, purely for conversion into CWE at this point, really really gutted 
The incubi IMO needed to keep the helbards instead of the uruk'hai style blades from lotr, also need the horns removed, in fact a completely different head, more based on the old style.
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Post by: Just Dave
WOW!
I think ALL of the new models look great! Unlike Chaos and some other armies, they don't look overly garish or cartoony. These new Dark Eldar don't appear to be trying too hard to be bad-ass, they're not covered in too many spikes or skulls or mundane pieces.
The don't appear to be the bane of humanity or possessed by the Chaos Gods, but they have the image of raiders, pirates and generally very very sadistic people.
Where-as Chaos Space Marines can seem cartoony or a bit stereotypically evil, the Dark Eldar look incredibly sadistic and actually like Raiders. They seem more than just spikey-Eldar, they seem to be race in their own.
I'm really really impressed by the new models, they have the sinister, sadistic imagery but stay fluid and dexterous in appearance and still fit with the old models.
Absolutely great job, amazing! All Kudos to Jes Goodwin, this is possibly the best looking army I've ever seen.
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Post by: Symbio Joe
Kroothawk wrote:For your convenience, here some of Warseer's Dark Eldar pics (thanks to PhilBrad and Gedara and BolS):
Incubi (look plastic, but seem to be resin masters, even without the slottabase, have nice Klingon style sword grips  ):
Hum...
Who is in with me on the guess this two handed Incubi equipment might suck?
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Post by: Powerguy
Most of that looks awesome. Lelith, the Incubi, the Mandrakes (I think its a Mandrake, the one after the Warrior) and the Jetbikes in particular look great, can definitely see the evolution of that old Eldar jetbike prototype in there.
The only one I'm not sold on is the Raider, which is a real concern considering its there main (only?) transport so it would be tricky to build and army without them. Definitely an improvement on the old ones and I can see where they are going with the whole Pirate boat thing but it still doesn't look that great. Having said that whoever picked/took that photo for the website and newsletter needs to be kicked, the angle that picture was taken on is terrible and completely doesn't show one of the new features (the hanging off crew). The ones from Gamesday, particularly the one with the more streamlined sail make it look much more passable imo.
Incubi would have to be hit stupidly hard with the nerf stick to end up anywhere near as bad as Repentia, I can't see their equipment changing all that much (as in those sure as hell look like power weapons to me) so the only potential issue would be their points cost.
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Post by: phillosmaster
I like all the pics. The new Raider looks great, and it's great to see a well designed female model out of GW.
The Incubi heads are giving me a bit of pause though. The rest of the model looks great, but I also might need to cut off those horns. They seem a bit much though I'll wait to see what they look like in person before I completely dismiss the horned helmets. New weapon and I don't see any gun on the helm (do they no longer wear tormentor helms?). Looks like Incubi will be very different rules wise.
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Post by: Lycaeus Wrex
These look. STUNNING. I was debating what my 2nd 40k army was going to be, but after these shots I'm going to be picking up a whole raft of these guys. Lelith's Wych Cult suddenly looks a whole lot better...
L. Wrex
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Post by: kenshin620
Looking good!
But the sail looks kinda silly. Why is it there? Guess thats one part I'll leave out.
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Post by: AlexHolker
Lelith Hesperax looks great, as do the Incubi (although the slight curve of the blade makes them look warped), but I'm disappointed by the visual direction of the new Wyches. Oh well, there's always the possibility of plastic Dark Elf Witches... They wouldn't make it three for three, would they?
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Post by: The Crippler
INSANELY good. My mix of apprehension/expectation had reached very high levels. This leaves me giddy. I LOVE these new models.
Exultation!
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Post by: The Night Lord
AHHH NO NOT DARK ELDAR I am now very scared.
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Post by: Ordo Dakka
A WHOLE NEW KIT FOR SISTERS OF BATTLE, PLASTIC TOO!
oh wait... they're Wyches? I'm sorry all I see are conversions...
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Post by: Steelmage99
My DE are going to be resurrected.
Welcome army number 11.
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Post by: fett14622
Nerdgasm!
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Post by: SaintHazard
kenshin620 wrote:Looking good!
But the sail looks kinda silly. Why is it there? Guess thats one part I'll leave out.
Well their ships are all propelled by solar sails, perhaps their skimmers run on a similar technology?
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Post by: Lukus83
The whole army has a kind of Japanese feel to me. Anyone else getting that vibe?
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Post by: JOHIRA
Lukus83 wrote:The whole army has a kind of Japanese feel to me. Anyone else getting that vibe?
Nope, apart from the hinomaru flag-esque design on the sail. That's about it that I see.
But that's okay, it still looks great.
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Post by: Dahlberg66
SIGH...once again GW your forcing me to buy more..I still havn't finished my Nids, BA, Guard..
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Post by: kenshin620
SaintHazard wrote:kenshin620 wrote:Looking good!
But the sail looks kinda silly. Why is it there? Guess thats one part I'll leave out.
Well their ships are all propelled by solar sails, perhaps their skimmers run on a similar technology?
Oh. Wait, what if something blotted out the sky?
Lukus83 wrote:The whole army has a kind of Japanese feel to me. Anyone else getting that vibe?
Same here but imo the eldar have really been sending me those vibes for quite a while
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Post by: SaintHazard
kenshin620 wrote:Oh. Wait, what if something blotted out the sky?
Well sailboats typically have a gas engine in case they're becalmed, they probably have the equivalent. Or perhaps the solar sails are like solar panels, and not only propel the skimmers, but also store energy for use during the night, or when the sun is blotted out by clouds or such.
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Post by: Klawz
kenshin620 wrote:Lukus83 wrote:The whole army has a kind of Japanese feel to me. Anyone else getting that vibe?
Same here but imo the eldar have really been sending me those vibes for quite a while
They remind me of old Chinese Pirate ships...
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
Like the aesthetic of sails TBH
The problem is they have to be kept small on the models for practical purposes, so the proportions look off to me.
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Post by: kenshin620
SaintHazard wrote:kenshin620 wrote:Oh. Wait, what if something blotted out the sky?
Well sailboats typically have a gas engine in case they're becalmed, they probably have the equivalent. Or perhaps the solar sails are like solar panels, and not only propel the skimmers, but also store energy for use during the night, or when the sun is blotted out by clouds or such.
What? Proper, practical energy sources in my 40k?
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
And renewable energy Who'd a thought the Dark Eldar are a bunch of tree huggers. At last, I have something in common with them! Edit: The poles can be upgraded for 30Pts to windmills
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Post by: kenshin620
Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:And renewable energy
Yes! Its good that humans breed so much so that we have enough things to torture for a long time!
I mean uh.... 
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
Im not to keen on the sails yet. But the lelith/ wychh lord model is imho the best model GW has ever made. Other than that the mandrakes are aaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzziiiiiiiiiiinnnnngggggg!!!!!!
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Post by: Generalstoner
MOdels are nicely done and I have to admit it makes me very tempted to start a dark eldar army. I'll also second the fact that the sail on the raider is a little off and I am not sure I would put it on my raider at all.
As for the Incubi, they rock, but I think they will not strike like the Repentia. My guess is they will function more like WHFB swordmasters, with a higher strength but retaining their initiative.
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Post by: Oshova
Well those models are loverly!
Loving Lelith, Wyches, Incubi, Bikes, and Raiders (minus sails)
Man this is going to hurt . . . but it's my birthday at the start of November
Oshova
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Post by: HoverBoy
I believe the only thing that makes the sails look bad is the white color, i mean really how does having a huge white panel on you'r vehicle helps a force that specialises in night raids, it just looks out of place. If it was black with some ghostly skulls and [MOD EDIT - Please don't try to avoid the Filter - Thanks!] on it, now that would be grimdark at its best.
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Post by: ProtoClone
Those are great. Even the ones I felt "meh" about it was still a "holy effin meh".
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HoverBoy wrote:I believe the only thing that makes the sails look bad is the white color, i mean really how does having a huge white panel on you'r vehicle helps a force that specialises in night raids, it just looks out of place. If it was black with some ghostly skulls and [Zzzt!] on it, now that would be grimdark at its best.
Paint it, even do some converting, to make it look like stretched skin as a sail.
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Post by: phillosmaster
I like the sails. I like how it gives the raiders a more piratey theme. I had just assumed they were decorative and not functional. I like the idea of painting them up as tanned stretched skin.
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Post by: HoverBoy
My point exactly, the color lets down a rather nice feature of the model.
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Post by: Commander Endova
I like, in particular, the Incubi, the Bikes, and Lelith, though I am confused why she has decided to take to the field of battle without shoes...
So, if the rules for the Raider are any good, GW can make even more money off of the DE by releasing the Hydra Flak Tank kit a few months later.
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Post by: kestral
I like just about everything. The hair bones on the witches are bad but easily cut off or sharpened into blades, and they are otherwise excellent. I like the harliquenesque touches on some of them. They are more "eldar" than the old wyches. I don't like the raiders as they are set up now, but I think some plasticard, a couple raider kits, and a little thought and I'd be able to make them just as I want them. If I was starting dark eldar. Which I'm not. Really. : )
And yeah, all you need is plastic or knock of SOB heads and you'd be able to make some really crazy inquisition conversions.
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Post by: Melissia
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1390421a_2DE_Archon.jpg
Holy shi~! That's.. that is an AWSOME model.
At first I thought it was drawn art, not a model. Just... wow.
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Post by: Mr Mystery
KIDNEY FOR SALE! ONLY ONE CARELESS OWNER!
KIDNEY FOR SALE! £500 o.n.o.
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Post by: bhsman
AlexHolker wrote:...but I'm disappointed by the visual direction of the new Wyches. Oh well, there's always the possibility of plastic Dark Elf Witches... They wouldn't make it three for three, would they?
What don't you like? Also, weren't you the dude who wanted an all-female Wych kit, or am I confusing you with someone else?
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Post by: Hulksmash
Well, half a DE army here I come right off the bat. Yay for selling my tau at the perfect time. Gonna have to start winning some tournaments to build up store credit
Those warriors are amazing. Normal muscle chick tits came out of left field and I like it. Incubi look amazing. The raider looks a little busy but the vehicle itself is hot. Love the bikes. Like the wyches but it looks like they have some cool poses and possibilities. Coverart looks hot. Archon is so head and shoulders above the old one it's not even funny. Man this is the first release since Orks that I'm am ridiculously excited for!
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Post by: Sir Harry Flashman, VC
Must resist...new purchases
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Post by: BrassScorpion
If the old Raiders looked like they were clearly inspired by Jabba The Hutt's barge from Return Of The Jedi, the new ones evoke that even more so.
The new Dark Eldar are definitely a step up from the old ones, though I never disliked the original ones. And for people saying the new ones don't look anything at all like the older ones, I think that's delusional thinking. They clearly have a lot in common in spite of all the changes and refinements.
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Post by: Hulksmash
Agreed BrassScorpion. They took the imagery from the previous line and enhanced and tweaked it. It still has the same feel but with much, much better models. I only really hated the old warriors/archons/groteques. Everything else wasn't horrible but now I already love the new warriors and archon so fingers crossed on the rest
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Post by: Melissia
Whatever the case, GW was indeed correct when they said that these sculpts were some of the best they've ever producd.
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Post by: Tri
They remind me more of the Junk rigs you get round Asia  I feel at least one Eldar/Ninja/Samurai combo army being made.
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Post by: Kirasu
Awesome models and could probably kit bash them with Eldar to make a wicked pirate fleet army.
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Post by: puma713
Powerguy wrote: (I think its a Mandrake, the one after the Warrior)
No, it's a wych.
And so are these:
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Post by: Melissia
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/photopost/data/572/de_wych_3.jpg
I like that model. Someone should convert that into a female Archon.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
puma713 wrote:Powerguy wrote: (I think its a Mandrake, the one after the Warrior)
No, it's a wych.
And so are these:
I'm not so sure, the covered face models with the spikey fists seem quite distinct from the rest of the models shown in that pic.
It wouldn't be the first time a photo is misnamed on it's /http.
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Post by: AAN
Hmm, being an DE player right from the start (see: )
I was quite curious about the new models, but all in all they do not really work for me.
:-(
http://www.adpublishing.de/html/dark_harlequins.html
Incubi - swords to big, horns on the helmet look just too much like Chaos for me.
Archon - again the horn thing, definitely a head swap is called.
Bike - I like the old ones (sans the Riders) better.^
Warrior - definitely better, like em!
Wyches - do not work for me... EDIT: seeing the newer pics - I like them!
Raider - I love the model (but for the wrong reasons, they look very much like Martian / barsoomian skiffs to me, add some Red Martians and off you go)
So all in all I will get some of them and be happy with it, might even get the codex. (I do not play since 4th edition, did not like the rule changes that much).
Having read the other comments, I realize that I am bit alone with my opinion, maybe I am getting jaded...
;-)
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Post by: Ketara
When can we pre-order from?
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Post by: Drk_Oblitr8r
What happened with that video they mentioned?
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Post by: Iron Angel
I really like the way GW did the female models in this range.
They finally look like they could actually fight.
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Post by: puma713
MeanGreenStompa wrote:puma713 wrote:Powerguy wrote: (I think its a Mandrake, the one after the Warrior)
No, it's a wych.
And so are these:
I'm not so sure, the covered face models with the spikey fists seem quite distinct from the rest of the models shown in that pic.
It wouldn't be the first time a photo is misnamed on it's /http.
True, but in the second picture, that same model is mixed in with a unit of Wyches. Which, in other pictures, are being led by Lelith Hesperax. I believe it is a wych. Maybe a specialty wych (a la Harlequins).
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Post by: chaos0xomega
You know what I dont like?
How the codex is apparently out for people to leaf through (someone on warseer mentioned leafing through it just quickly enough to confirm that harlies are in), but NOBODY IS POSTING ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT RULES!
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Post by: Xca|iber
Very much impressed with the new line. Hopefully the Codex will reflect the awesome new models.
Interesting new direction with the "Chaos" horns on some of those guys (dunno what they are, I'm not a DE player). I'm curious to see how much of the new Dark Eldar have been converted to "Chaos" Eldar. I really hope that both traditional Dark Eldar and "Chaos" Eldar are still possible; it would be sad to see every "evil" race aligned with Chaos.
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Post by: Casper
And here I was thinking I wasn't going to buy 40k any more.
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Post by: kenshin620
ARGH I'm so excited now! That comparison pic was the deal breaker!
Now if they could redo inquisition and necrons this dynamically...
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Post by: aka_mythos
I can easily say this is the most impressed of GW ever. Excellent job. I'd say this was actually worth the wait.
Some where I know Dark Eldar players are both rejoicing and dreading... their army has been redone, but their gonna have to junk their old minis.
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Post by: Vrakk
The bikes look like they're moving 100 mph standing still. These models rock!
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Post by: puma713
Dunno if these have been posted yet (if they have, forgive me), but a few rules starting to seep out:
From Sildani @ Warseer:
Ravagers only AV 11 11 10 but can fire all three dark lances at cruising speed (couple that with fast and... I need to read my rulebook again, but I think it should allow them to go 12" and fire all three weapons, bye bye land raider).
There were several upgrades for reaver jetbikes that inflict different numbers of S3/4/6 hits on units when doing their 'drive by' attack. There was half a page of description about this, so I can't remember the details.
The DE seem to have an armywide Acute Senses rule.
The pyramid thing the Archon is holding might be a wargear item that doubles his Strength IF he kills an enemy MC/SC in close combat.
The rumored rule where the DE get stronger as they kill the enemy is called Strength Through Pain.
Phil Kelly said Wyches were Troops.
Ten Wyches to a box, six females(!) and four males.
Two female Reaver jetbike torsos on the sprue.
Drazhar is in the Codex.
There's a section in the Background part of the Codex called the Coming/Advent/Rise (forget which) of Vect.
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Post by: chaos0xomega
Excellent, yes, but give me MOAR!!!!
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Post by: Spiff
Awesome stuff....it's as if they took some great inspiration from other GW army model ranges and distilled it down into something still distinctly Dark Eldar.
The Archon looks kinda like Sauron.
I also get an Easterling vibe in some of the models,
I was planning on keeping my old Incubi, Wyches, and Jetbikes. Welp, those old reavers...I'm pretty tempted to ditch them now.
The raider is exactly what I was hoping for. The DE hanging off the sides is a bit much but I could leave those off.
I'm pretty damn happy.
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Just think, if this is the quality of the new dark eldar so far... then Vect's pimpskimmer will have discolights, poles and tiny miniaturised Jessica Albas running all over it.
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Post by: puma713
More tidbits as they become available:
From Sildania @ Warseer (about Reaver Jetbikes)
They appear to have some hit and run attacks where they pass a unit inflicting damage without entering combat. Still only a T4, 5+ armour value, and can turbo boost 36".
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Post by: Kanluwen
aka_mythos wrote:I can easily say this is the most impressed of GW ever. Excellent job. I'd say this was actually worth the wait.
Some where I know Dark Eldar players are both rejoicing and dreading... their army has been redone, but their gonna have to junk their old minis.
This.
I'm damned well getting at least one or two boxes of Wyches just to make a unit of Mandrakes to paint up. Automatically Appended Next Post: Xca|iber wrote:Very much impressed with the new line. Hopefully the Codex will reflect the awesome new models.
Interesting new direction with the "Chaos" horns on some of those guys (dunno what they are, I'm not a DE player). I'm curious to see how much of the new Dark Eldar have been converted to "Chaos" Eldar. I really hope that both traditional Dark Eldar and "Chaos" Eldar are still possible; it would be sad to see every "evil" race aligned with Chaos.
Horned helmets != "Chaos".
They're just horns. They're meant to look intimidating, and it works.
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Post by: Farmer
Those are awesome!
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Post by: HoverBoy
Hehe nice programming refference Kanluwen.
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Post by: Wayfarer
Jes has outdone himself. These are, across the board, fantastic.
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Post by: puma713
Wonder if that's a mandrake on the right and left of the archon on the cover?
Edit: guess so. A little rumor (which seems to be confirmed) at Warseer:
Right, someone said a while back that the Mandrakes would have flaming orbs and flames or symbols on their body because they used warp powers.
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Post by: Farmer
Anyone notice the wychs look simiilar to the dark elf corsairs?.
Also the dark eldar warrior helmit faces look like fire dragons.
i've been waiting 4 years for the update, now i'm kinda sad since everyone and their mothers will have a DE army now
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Post by: His Master's Voice
Kroothawk wrote:
Oh my, look at those poor Banshees. Someone's been chugging extra desserts for that past couple months, eh?
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Post by: Spiff
My backup plan if these turned out crappy was to convert a bunch of Dark Elf models.
The Dark Eldar look great...but I'm still kinda tempted to use Dark Elf bits.
EDIT: You know what? Nevermind that last bit. I was just looking at the Dark Elf model range....There is very little they could bring to the table compared to these Dark Eldar sculpts.
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Post by: Grimm
My Lord they are b-e-a-utiful. Looks like another army to add to the pile. Damn you GW, DAMN YOU!
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Post by: kenshin620
Spiff wrote:My backup plan if these turned out crappy was to convert a bunch of Dark Elf models.
The Dark Eldar look great...but I'm still kinda tempted to use Dark Elf bits.
DO IT! The newest Dark elves like the cosairs would make excellent conversions
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Post by: zachwho
WOW!!! wait my girlfriends passed out, i dont know if its cardiac arrest from excitement, or how broke shes gonna be!
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Post by: -Wardancer-
Anyone notice the creepy creatures at the feet of the archon In the artwork? Could these be the mandrakes? Also I wonder are scourges still in? Man oh man these models are ace .....I love the new warriors!!!!
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Post by: Magnalon
I actually like the old models for the Warriors and Incubi.
At the moment, I'm probably getting the Archon (anything is better than the old model) and a box of Incubi to differentiate with power weapons.
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Post by: Spiff
kenshin620 wrote:Spiff wrote:My backup plan if these turned out crappy was to convert a bunch of Dark Elf models.
The Dark Eldar look great...but I'm still kinda tempted to use Dark Elf bits.
DO IT! The newest Dark elves like the cosairs would make excellent conversions
Actually just edited my post. The Corsairs are probably the only models in the range that are even near the same level as these sculpts.
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Post by: kenshin620
Spiff wrote:kenshin620 wrote:Spiff wrote:My backup plan if these turned out crappy was to convert a bunch of Dark Elf models.
The Dark Eldar look great...but I'm still kinda tempted to use Dark Elf bits.
DO IT! The newest Dark elves like the cosairs would make excellent conversions
Actually just edited my post. The Corsairs are probably the only models in the range that are even near the same level as these sculpts.
Yes sadly only the cosairs really stand out (maybe fellheart also for cthulhu inspired DE!)
Everything either doesnt work too well (like knights) or never got updated (warriors)
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Post by: Maelstrom808
Awww man....I'm screwed. Still trying to build up a functional Nid army and now after seeing those incredible bikes, I'm going to have to put together a DE army PLUS my necrons are probably on the short list as well.
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
Man take your time!
Get the Nids done first.
By the time you get around to buying DE the interest will have dampened down.
I'm gonna wit for the Raiderwagon jumpers to fall off in pursuit of the next new shiny shiny baubles!
Then pic up their pieces from eBay
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Post by: Red Corsair
wow, next to those banshees it easy to see that GW now needs to update all other ranges lol.....
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Post by: AlexHolker
bhsman wrote:What don't you like? Also, weren't you the dude who wanted an all-female Wych kit, or am I confusing you with someone else?
I like these ones from Kroothawk's later post, but the earlier photos made it look like at a time when Lelith proved they could do the concept well, they'd gone and replaced the Wyches with Corsair-mask-wearing, one-arm-baring DE Warriors.
And yes, it was me that was hoping for an all-female Wych kit. If you could create ten Wyches like those from the kit instead of just 2-3, I'd be buying them and converting a new gang of Eschers.
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Post by: Gamble
Fantastic work and well worth the wait. Make room on the bandwagon for one more, regardless of the codex.
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Post by: Flashman
Not bad
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Post by: BloodofOrks
And I just finished my daemons, no fair GW. Sigh... who am I kidding, I already have a color scheme picked out.
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Post by: puma713
Since my "Rules" thread was locked because it might be confusing for readers of Dakka o.O, I guess I'll continue to update what I've found here.
From Isotope on BoLS:
Archon has WS, BS & I 7 stats, but most of the rest are 3 S, T, W.
And, some just general info from Isotope:
I heard that the weird glowing yellow guys around the archon's feet are mandrakes, not sure of there will be new model for them, wasn't on display.
The raider definitely has sail options. I didn't see the ravager but I can't see them not doing the model nowe that they have the new chassis. No Hellions on display either.
Looks like the reavers are coming in boxes of three, with a choice of four canopies:
I herad Phil Kelly say that Wyches were moving to the troop slot (makes sense with a new plastic kit and fifth edition troop focus) and that they can be upgraded with special close combat weapons.
Design pic of Lelith:
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Post by: Archonate
This thread right here is the entire reason I joined Dakka. My search is over, let the planning begin! >
These are of the quality that I saw potential for in DE from the beginning. I can't wait to get wind of their new rules!
I think the jetbikes look a little back heavy and could use more blades along the nose, but that can be fixed... And they look amazing anyway, now that the pilots aren't midgets.
The Raider is awesome and I love the lance-wielding passengers. There's a lot that can/will be done with the empty space on the hull and sail.
The Warriors are perfect. The Wyches are perfect. The Character models are beyond perfect.
The Codex cover art is great, but I'm not sure about the Archon with the large bobble-head... But I'm very curious about those things with the long white hair. Mandrakes? Grotesques?
Can't wait to see homunculus and Talos sculpts, and I'm sad we don't have sight of Mandrake models yet.
P.S. Can we please get all pics in this thread tacked onto the OP so we don't have to thumb through all the pages to see everything? I'm still drinking in every glorious detail of every pic...
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Post by: Alpharius
Overall, this is one awesome release!
But...
Whoops!
There goes that pesky scale problem again!
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Post by: Gwar!
Hot Damn these are delicious.
October 5th you say for pre-orders?
Yes, this is the first time that I am ever going to pre-order from GW! Only for the codex you see, but still. D:
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Post by: bd1085
!!!!
At first I was like o.o
Then I was like
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Post by: Brother SRM
God. Damn. I really don't think I've ever been seriously blown away by new models like this. I... I... I need to lie down.
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Post by: Flashman
Yes, further to my understatement above, this looks a very well developed release (they did have the time). The only thing close to being a fail is the Raider (the sail makes no sense, unless it's for a stealthy approach), but not on the scale of say, Minotaurs.
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Post by: Commander Endova
I think I can speak for many people when I say I look forward to your FAQ, Gwar!
As to the matter of scale, is it just me or does the picture above have each model on a different size base? The old model on a 25mm and the new version on a 40mm? Or is it a trick of photography?
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Post by: Kurgash
Brother SRM wrote:God. Damn. I really don't think I've ever been seriously blown away by new models like this. I... I... I need to lie down.
My thoughts exactly. Now just have to play the waiting game for the Necrons.
When does that Tomb Stalker go on sale?
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Post by: bhsman
Brother SRM wrote:God. Damn. I really don't think I've ever been seriously blown away by new models like this. I... I... I need to lie down.
Express your newfound feelings through a Newgrounds flash.
Please? :3
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Post by: -Wardancer-
I feel the same way brother, like it's a dream I don't want to wake up from!! I love you Jes Goodwin!
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Post by: Scottywan82
Can we get confirmation that the Incubi are plastic? Or are they - sadly - metal?
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Post by: puma713
Alpharius wrote:
There goes that pesky scale problem again!
I think I read somewhere that these are still resin models. So, it wouldn't be too hard to believe that these are larger in scale than they will be at production.
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Post by: Whatever1
IMO,the new Lelith and Jetbike models are awesome. Lelith is probably the best looking GW fig I've seen. I don't like the new Raider,however,and the rest of models are ok,but don't come close to living up to the massive amount of Jes Goodwin hype we've been hearing for years.
Congrats to the DE players,though. Their waiting is almost at an end.
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Post by: bhsman
Scottywan82 wrote:Can we get confirmation that the Incubi are plastic? Or are they - sadly - metal?
Those were the resin masters, so metal.
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Post by: Lord_Astaroth
Well crap. That just shoots down the idea that I was going to buy the codex, get a new Archon, and make do with the rest of my models. Extremely excited to see what the Talos will look like.
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Post by: Scottywan82
bhsman wrote:Scottywan82 wrote:Can we get confirmation that the Incubi are plastic? Or are they - sadly - metal?
Those were the resin masters, so metal.
But I thought that I saw resin masters for the warriors too....
And the masters have no slot for the base! I... Aww....
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Post by: Shas?ka t suam
Yeah I'm pretty sure they were the resin masters.
A lot of people don't seem to like the sail on the raider, but I really quite like it, and there's two variants of the sail I think after seeing the models today, unless it was just an alteration to the sail through the design process but if there are two variants you could always stick two on to make it look more like a pirate ship than a sort of shark fin.
Ozzy Automatically Appended Next Post: Scottywan82 wrote:bhsman wrote:Scottywan82 wrote:Can we get confirmation that the Incubi are plastic? Or are they - sadly - metal?
Those were the resin masters, so metal.
But I thought that I saw resin masters for the warriors too....
And the masters have no slot for the base! I... Aww....
I did notice on the wytch sprue that they had slot bases wich is a bit weird, and yeah I saw the resin masters of the warriors too, it was the one that had been posted up in the rumors section that no one liked the helmet of and also another one with the crossbow like splinter rifle and a blade, wich was posed kind of poorly so im glad it was just a resin master and not a final product
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Post by: Uriels_Flame
Jes and Lilith sitting in a tree,
d-i-s-e-m-b-o-w-e-l-i-n-g
First comes your wallet
then comes your marriage
then comes the Dark Eldar right up your A**!
Awesome work. Will look forward to the many paint jobs for Lilith.
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Post by: Beerfart
Eh, they're ok I guess.
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Post by: sexiest_hero
The picture of the male witch with the purple pony tail and female with the short cropped blue hair are some of the best work I've ever seen. Lilith looks like a real female and not a 12 year olds fantasy. Hell all the women look real. I can't belive it. the females look dangerous, realistic and good. the breast look normal, and they look fit enough to run 5 miles killing the whole way. the males look non pansy for some pointy eared freaks.
GW has outdone anything ever!
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Post by: kestral
Seeing the witches vs. Howling banshees pic was a great image. The wyches look more dynamic by a mile.
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Post by: sworth9411
Well God Damnit these are some of the best models GW has produced in a while.....guess I will be starting a DE army after all
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Post by: Accolade
Son of a--
I'd opted to build a 500 point Ork army to fight my Guard, and I got all of the stuff to do so but, after seeing this....
I think I might have to go back and switch to the Dark Eldar, I'm simply blown away by the quality of the models! GW has really outdone themselves with this upcoming release. Looking at the new Dark Eldar and the IoB release, it's interesting to think about what future releases will look like, in particular for the outdated armies (GK, Sisters, Necrons). I'm vizualizing more and more impressive armies in the future, I'm just glad my cabinet can't hold too much more!
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Post by: grak
Great minis.
puma713 wrote:Alpharius wrote:
There goes that pesky scale problem again!
I think I read somewhere that these are still resin models. So, it wouldn't be too hard to believe that these are larger in scale than they will be at production.
The scale doesn't seem like a problem to me if you look at this image.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xoosGkBROvM/TJ93I7jwwPI/AAAAAAAAAQw/slqjDusMqpk/s1600/P9262497.jpg
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Post by: Shas?ka t suam
Its good to see that they sorted out the splinter rifle bayonet so that it isn't in the way of the barrel anymore
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Post by: puma713
Few closer shots of the archons:
Courtesy of Dio'Ra at Warseer:
Starting to give me that Autarch feel to Archons.
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Post by: FlammingGaunt
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I don't think I have the money or time for another army, DAMN YOU JES!!!!!
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Post by: kenshin620
Yes, I like these badass archons. The art vs the model in the old codex made me sad.
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Post by: Shas?ka t suam
yeah, I'd probably stay away from the back banners to keep autarch and archon separate, was that whip in the old codex? and could dark eldar ever have fusion guns (I only played against one person who played DE and he did the Dark lance sniper thing)
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Post by: Lucid
Fantastic stuff . . . too bad i'm not a dark eldar guy. . . one thing I will say is that they look painfull as hell to take off of the sprue
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Post by: Sageheart
love them!
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Post by: kenshin620
Lucid wrote:Fantastic stuff . . . too bad i'm not a dark eldar guy. . . one thing I will say is that they look painfull as hell to take off of the sprue
I suddenly remember what happened when I was unboxing the Skull Pass set. I hate those night goblins! 
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Post by: Casper
Quick question - are there female warriors or is that kit all male? I plan to do a Necromunda gang and I need to figure out how many kits I need to get.
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Post by: gothgar
insane
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Post by: Hordini
Very nice! Certainly seems to have been worth the wait, and like others have said, Lilith is the best female miniature that GW has done, probably ever. She actually looks female without having a masculine face and horrid Barbie-doll proportions.
I really like the warriors and the wyches are nice too, especially the special weapon one with the covered face. Nice to hear that Harlequins should be in the codex too!
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Post by: Reecius
Oh, oh, oh.....jizzz in my pants!
Jess Goodwyn, you are amazing.
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Post by: rodgers37
Did anyone get a proper look at the codex today?
I can't wait untill these come out....but i'm defiantly going to read the codex before buying any models (i only have a very very small DE army so far, so pretty much starting from scratch anyway....But i'm thinking a jet bike army might be a nice starting place
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Post by: brotherskeeper74
Wow. I got my first DE in the 3rd ed. box. Can't believe they are finally here.
Raiders look more breakable than the first ones. But, impressive. When I saw the Update pic of the Wyche in the helmet, I thought it was a Mandrake. But to see that it is a Wyche, wow. No metal bikinis? Really?
Warriors are sweet. Reavers look great. Incubi, not sure about them. I loved the old look and I think the new ones will grow on me.
For me, I'm going to mix my old stuff w/ the news stuff. But, most importiant, gotta see what the rules look like.
Me so happy that they are back out.
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Post by: Goliath
I have to say that whilst looking at these earlier, from about a foot away, they are even more badass than in the photos.
The jetbikes are brilliant, as are the warriors hanging off of the raider.
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Post by: Skarboy
Without delving into exaggeration, there are few times in life where high expectations are met or exceeded. The Dark Eldar revamp are one of those times. GOD. DAMN.
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Post by: Kamsm8
My mind is BLOWN AWAY. These are by and far some of THE most beautiful sculpts I've seen out of GW. Ever. Especially that Lillith... Just wow. That's a GREAT model.
My disappointments are minor - I just got used to liking the old Incubi skull-type facemasks, so the new ones are kind of meh to me. But the rest of that model is awesome. And the Wyches seem rather plain... Not bad sculpts. They just don't seem as intriguing as the rest of the line currently does. But the new Raiders, Warriors, Archons, Bikers... They're all beautiful. I'm stunned. I really am.
Forget my pirate-themed Eldar army - Dark Eldar, here I come!
... Wait, we still have two months?
Damn.
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Post by: ShineBoss
rodgers37 wrote:Did anyone get a proper look at the codex today?
I can't wait untill these come out....but i'm defiantly going to read the codex before buying any models (i only have a very very small DE army so far, so pretty much starting from scratch anyway....But i'm thinking a jet bike army might be a nice starting place
This. Loving the new sculpts , especially the wyches, but -reaaly- curious regarding the new rules.
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Post by: asimo77
I thought my Slaaneshi CSM had filled up my quota of crazy perverts but looks like the DE will be my third army. And I really want Inq/SOB too at some point :(
AHHH!! 4 armies is too many for me! I'm never going to have enough money for this, what with my philosophy degree... I'm feeling the weirdest combination of happiness and sadness right now.
P.S. By the C'tan I hope some of this awesomeness spills onto the necrons when they roll out!
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Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin
I'd heard they'd rehired Gary Morley to sculpt the new Necron range.
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Post by: Farmer
This looks better then the new archon, glad i have this model too, if only the archon on the DE cover was a model...
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Post by: Howard A Treesong
Is there a price list circulating on these then? How much is the plastic raider?
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Post by: JohnHwangDD
 So Dark Eldar been taking steroids? Are they as big as Catachans?  Or compatible with the old models?
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Post by: rodgers37
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:I'd heard they'd rehired Gary Morley to sculpt the new Necron range.
I heard the Necrons where done, and will be out Jan....
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Post by: Fiend
Wow. Just checked my email and had all these cool pics from GW. I popped in here to see the discussion and seven pages already!
Anyways, they are all great models imo. My dream has come true.
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Post by: avantgarde
JohnHwangDD wrote: So Dark Eldar been taking steroids? Are they as big as Catachans?
Are Dark Eldar taking performance enhancing drugs? What you don't know may kill you, more at 11. Also what's up with the difference in base size?
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Post by: Kanluwen
One's a resin master, the other's a production run plastic.
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Post by: Eldar Craft
Looks like the Rith-Amai craftworld will be having some dissenters very very soon!!!!!
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Post by: Zathras
asimo77 wrote:P.S. By the C'tan I hope some of this awesomeness spills onto the necrons when they roll out!
You and me both. My 'crons have been collecting dust since the new edition of 40k came out...hopefully the new dex will make them competative again.
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Post by: whitedragon
And their bases aren't the same size in that picture.
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Post by: Flashman
Slightly off topic, but anyone else think odd that in the "Year of Warhammer", we've only had one Warhammer Army book (Beastmen), but three 40K Codexes - Tyranids, Blood Angels and now Dark Eldar?
Oh well, back to the Jes worship...
EDIT - Actually, that was completely off topic. Sorry 
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Post by: nickmund
Ketara wrote:When can we pre-order from?
5th october
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Post by: frgsinwntr
oh man... I hope they really kill the mech heavy environment...
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Post by: nickmund
Fingers crossed GK will be next up for a re-do!
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I bet DE absolutly dominate in planet strike
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Post by: Mr Morden
I like much of it – A LOT
The Incubi will make good contrasting squads with the present ones,
Love the Lelith model
Quite like the new Archon, but happy with my previous female ones unless there is a better replacement - but they are a really good replacement of the old one as never liked the male one
Warriors are cool as are the new bikes – will be getting these.
Not sure about the Raider - need to see it in the flesh – likely get one as Archons transport and keep my other 6 standard raiders as is quite happy with them. Like many not sure about the sail - looks small.........
Disappointed with the fully covered Wych in the email, would work as a Mandrakes but much much happier with some of the other models and options shown – will mix and match with present.
I WILL be buying much of this – but keeping much of my normal army as well………….
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Post by: Devastator
that reaver bike is awesome
Imho non imperial dexes need more help
aka necrons
Da and bt can be pdf release
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Post by: nickmund
Devastator wrote:that reaver bike is awesome
Imho non imperial dexes need more help
aka necrons
Da and bt can be pdf release
Its got to be GK next they've been long overdue and are completly useless in 5th edition. At least necrons can hold thier own... somtimes
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Post by: Gwar!
Devastator wrote:Da and bt can be pdf release
Yeah, because that worked sooooooo well for the Blood Angels, eh? 
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Post by: plastictrees
Amazing models, and pre-order is on my birthday...it was meant to be.
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Post by: Shas?ka t suam
just a thaught on what some of the new stuff could be.
the fiery pyramid thing the archon is holding could be something that catches souls and there fore could be like epidemius' toll thingy.
and i think the sails on the raiders might actually have some sort of rule like an extra D6" movement for all raiders in the army to show how solar winds are effecting the sails etc.
although these are just what i think they might be, i didn't phase my arm through the glass cabinet and take a read through the codex like others magically did
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Post by: Scottywan82
I think the off-size model is just a funny angle
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Post by: Iron Angel
Gwar! wrote:Devastator wrote:Da and bt can be pdf release
Yeah, because that worked sooooooo well for the Blood Angels, eh?
With the help of a little RAW the BA PDF could make strong lists. Damn you forced me to an OT post...
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Post by: Kroothawk
Some more tidbits from Warseer:
Chaos Undecided wrote:The cutdown codex on display didnt have an rules pages for special characters included theres a section of the background entitled "The Coming of Vect" so seems safe to say he'll be around. I did notice the Harlequin unit page seemed pretty much the same as the unit available to the Craftworld Eldar but as I said before alot of pages missing so its possible a Solitaire might have had its own entry.
Didnt have a chance to find out much in depth though hopefully someone interegated them about the Strength through Pain rule.
shin'keiro wrote:Had a good look at new dex today (not complete dex)
Harlequins are in DE codex... but NO solitaire
Harlequins have same stats and choices as in Eldar Codex.
Incubi have Klaives (+1 strength) Theres also another Weapon that gives either +2 to ws OR +2 to strength.
Jet bikes can turbo boost 36"
Wytch weapons still take away 1 attack from opponents down to a minimum of 1
Wyches still get dodge 4+ inv against cc attacks
On the Ravanger:
Harry wrote:See that bendy bar half way back with guys hanging off it.
Imagine a beefed up one of those extending further out with two guys sitting in out riggers on either end.
They saved the best bits so there were a few surprises for the release.
Hellions (and Mandrakes) are in the first wave .... and you have nothing to fear.
(other than becoming sexually aroused when you first see them. )
Dio´Ra wrote:Also about the whych box, talk with jes: There will be 8 females and 2 males in the boxes. But by using female torsos from the warriors you can easily make full female units of whyches.
Hypaspist wrote:Well, I haven't seen all the codex as there were only sections of it there in an A4 Ring Binder, and noticably without the FOC slots they take up (though I'm sure it wouldn't take a genius to work that out)
Pretty sure I remember the Raiders and Ravager being able to see in the dark, and Incubi having a small advantage/preference for striking at Independent Characters in Close Combat though
Sadly, I didn't want to hog the binder for too long so I didn't pore over the specifics of the fluff, but I would suggest that you won't be disappointed, The codex was basically split between Phil doing the Rules and Jes doing the fluff, though Jes talked about this very much in the way that made you feel it was a true team effort.
(...)
Well people, if the Mandrake models (when they are released) are anything like the Concept Sketch I saw in His Lord High Godwyn's Sketch book, we are in for an absolute treat...
Had a really nice chat with Jez, I think he was really pleased by people's immediate reactions (and had to ask several times for people to mind the cabinet, it almost got knocked over in the scrum!)
So Jes is not angry!
Expect more revelations on the Games Days on 17th October (Germany and Italy).
BTW what exactly was the wording of the famous bet? If you can preorder the stuff on 5th October, then you have bought it in principle, right?
Here some more pics by Dio´Ra:
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Post by: chaos0xomega
Kanluwen wrote:One's a resin master, the other's a production run plastic.
No both are production run plastics. The image was taken at an angle through glass which horizontally distorted the image. If you look at the new mini you will notice that it appears "stretched" in several areas.
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Post by: plastictrees
Wouldn't be surprised if the Solitaire is listed as a special character.
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Post by: LadyCassandra
JohnHwangDD wrote:
So Dark Eldar been taking steroids? Are they as big as Catachans?
Or compatible with the old models?
Scottywan82 wrote:I think the off-size model is just a funny angle
Note the red blur just behind the new Warrior's left shoulder-pad. Look at the second pic, it's exactly the same. My guess is that someone took a picture of a poster at an odd angle, and someone else took a picture of the same poster from straight on. So yes, they seem to be the same size.
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Post by: Darth Bob
Wow. I literally gasped when I saw these models. I'm especially impressed with the Wyches (male and female for the win?).
Any announcement of them redoing any of the other Special Characters? Or maybe Mandrakes? Helions?
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Post by: juraigamer
Speechless I am
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Post by: Kroothawk
Darth Bob wrote:Any announcement of them redoing any of the other Special Characters? Or maybe Mandrakes? Helions?
They redo the complete range, but it takes a while. Plastic Hellions will be in the first wave though, Mandrakes probably not.
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Post by: Farmer
I'm surprised nobody has the new rules for the DE yet.
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Post by: AlexHolker
Harry says both are in the first wave here.
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Post by: Samus666
These are superb. Whereas so much of what has been released recently has looked kinda exaggerated and cartoony, the new Dark Eldar look so life-like. Beautiful models. I think they can now, finally, live up to their claim of being the 'connoisseur's army'.
Don't think I can resist a bulk buy. Also going to grab some current DE for conversion bitz.
Jes is a genius btw. Although, strangely, poor beleagured Gary Morley should share some credit for helping to inspire this end result. Vastly superior sculpts aside, the core Dark Eldar aesthetic remains quite similar, and if it wasn't for his failed 'first draft' we wouldn't be getting these masterpieces now.
Props to GW too. They came through. The wait was worth it. I was one of their biggest detractors during their recent 'MOAR MAHREEENS!!1' years, I didn't even believe they'd ever make new DE, but they did warn us that they'd have to focus on the big sellers for a while in order to take risks later on. Looks like the plan paid off. Bravo.
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Post by: -Wardancer-
It's really interesting how they completely changes the Mandrake feel.......kinda creepy...almost like Half Warp daemon/ Half Eldar. If the jetbikes look that good I can't wait to see the Hellions!
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
The plan?
Whilst the sculpts are good let's not get carried away...
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
Magnalon wrote:I actually like the old models for the Warriors and Incubi.
At the moment, I'm probably getting the Archon (anything is better than the old model) and a box of Incubi to differentiate with power weapons.
For anyone that likes any of the old infintry type models, and jetbikes, I would be happy to trade you for these new amazing works of art!
Sorry that was OT..
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Post by: Shas?ka t suam
-Wardancer- wrote:It's really interesting how they completely changes the Mandrake feel.......kinda creepy...almost like Half Warp daemon/ Half Eldar. If the jetbikes look that good I can't wait to see the Hellions!
Mandrakes? we havent seen any mandrakes 
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
Assume the gimp dude.
I thought he was a mandrake too when I first saw it
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Post by: Shas?ka t suam
Awww was hoping for some more leaked images HaHa
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Post by: Kroothawk
AlexHolker wrote:Harry says both are in the first wave here.
Oops, sorry, yes, Mandrakes seem to be first wave metal box. Metal blisters seem to be Archon, Wych Lord and a new character.
Shas?ka t suam wrote:-Wardancer- wrote:It's really interesting how they completely changes the Mandrake feel.......kinda creepy...almost like Half Warp daemon/ Half Eldar. If the jetbikes look that good I can't wait to see the Hellions!
Mandrakes? we havent seen any mandrakes
Mandrakes can be seen on the cover, those creepy Manga types with glowing hands
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Post by: sum1thtdiesalot
THose look so awesomely creepy!!!! Thats how mandrakes should look!
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Post by: -Wardancer-
thanks .....yeah I should have specified on the cover, really interesting. Thank god though because the old models were probably the worst in the range....Thanks Gary Morely....can sombody just take him out already? Biggest waste of GW resources ever. Oh and the guy that did the "Jes we can" Logo is the man! I'm so getting that on a shirt! Hell maybe even a bumper sticker! LMAO
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
They look like they are playing electric guitars
KEEERAANG!!
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Post by: Farmer
Kroothawk wrote:AlexHolker wrote:Harry says both are in the first wave here.
Oops, sorry, yes, Mandrakes seem to be first wave metal box. Metal blisters seem to be Archon, Wych Lord and a new character.
Shas?ka t suam wrote:-Wardancer- wrote:It's really interesting how they completely changes the Mandrake feel.......kinda creepy...almost like Half Warp daemon/ Half Eldar. If the jetbikes look that good I can't wait to see the Hellions!
Mandrakes? we havent seen any mandrakes
Mandrakes can be seen on the cover, those creepy Manga types with glowing hands
They don't look like mandrakes, maybe because mandrakes are bald
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Post by: Shas?ka t suam
Ahhh yes i forgot about those on the cover! cheers for pointing that out
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Post by: Darth Bob
The old models are still on the site. If you want them, I suggest you pick them up now.
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Post by: Kirasu
*crickets*
I think that was part of the problem.. no one wanted the old models
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Post by: MeanGreenStompa
Perhaps those crouching things on the cover, at the Archon's feet, aren't mandrakes... perhaps, I think, they are grotesques and the gimp costumed folks (valdo from soulcaliber) we've seen among the wytches are the mandrakes...
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Post by: widderslainte
I, like most others, am blown away. Not crazy about the horns on the incubi, but everything else well exceeded my expectations.
I *love* the raiders, including the sails. If anyone else still prefers the old models, then PM me. I got 8 that will need new homes.
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Post by: mrblacksunshine_1978
The new Dark Eldar models looks great, cant wait to get my hands on them. I hope that the new Dark Eldar Codex will inculde Asdrubael Vect, which was one of my favorite models in the old Dark Eldar codex
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Post by: yournamehere
Very happy with this release all the models look excellent And november is when I get outa school and start making money again, perfect.
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Post by: insaniak
I'm not entirely sold on the new look Reavers (riders, yes, but the bikes are just a bit odd, and the old ones were great) but everything else is just jaw-droppingly awesome.
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Post by: Savnock
First person to report on the compatibility of the new kits with craftworld Guardian and WHFB DE (especially Corsair) bitz wins my firstborn child.
Cannot WAIT to convert some of these suckers.
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Post by: Absolutionis
My only disappointment is that the Dark Eldar Jetbikes aren't Craftworld Jetbikes with spikes. I was hoping to actually convert some decent-looking Craftworld Eldar Jetbikes.
As for the models, they're all amazing. They're not better-than-current-DE-amazing. They're all just the best models GW has done in quite some time. Lelith is somewhat manly-looking, but that's believable. The Wyches look great, and I hope there's enough Voldo-bitz for everyone.
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Post by: puma713
A bit about Strength Through Pain over on BoLS (Credit to GrenAcid):
So I was talking with Phill for a while and this is what I know:
Mandreaks are shadow bit chaos thing that eats souls and glow green(you on cover)
New character former DE queen..and Vects wive....after he dump her, she started planning revange on him.
This is about rules ect.
Power from Pain- After destroying non-vehicle unit, DE gets on winners pain token.
One token on unit and DE have FnP
2 on and FC
3 on and fearless
Tokens are cumulative and rule army wide.
Reavers inflicts impact hits on units they fly trough. D3 S3 for each bike, with some options to improve.
Incubi are very simmilar to aspect warriors; exarch witch special powers and wepons....(i recall one with Preffered enemy).
Wyches have 3 diffrent wych weapons.....look nice.
Archon have new retinue of some nasty bodyguards, incubi ale elite mercenaries now.
Ravager can shoot al three lances on cruising speed.
And, credit to DrLove 42
Harlequins are identical to their craftworld eldar...smae statlines, wargear and points
Mandrakes have some kind of shooting attack that gets stronger with every kill they make
3 Brand new units, never before seen in DE codex
Incubi are hard. And I meant HARD. Yes they're only T3, S3, with a 3+ save, but their (power) weapons add +1 to strength and 2 attacks basic. Their squad leader (WS5, 3 Attacks) has a weapon that either gives him +2 attacks or +2 S. Also he has a power that him, and any member of the squad that rolls a 6 to hit gets another attack add infinitium.
Archon is WS 7 BS 7, but doesn't have full wargear wardrobe like in last codex (least not that I saw)
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Post by: Hordini
MeanGreenStompa wrote:Perhaps those crouching things on the cover, at the Archon's feet, aren't mandrakes... perhaps, I think, they are grotesques and the gimp costumed folks (valdo from soulcaliber) we've seen among the wytches are the mandrakes...
Those might just be Wyches with special weapons. That was my guess anyway, not sure of any other reason they'd be mixed in. Some of the Reaver jetbike pilots have similar masks as well, and it would seem kind of underwhelming if Mandrakes were just Wyches with masks.
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Post by: dienekes96
I keep hearing about a Goodwin concept sketch of the mandrakes. I even saw part of one, showing the arm. Anyone have that and can share?
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Post by: gremmie0
Wow, Lelith is insane.. the reavers are so ridiculously awesome... The second helmet option for the Archon is way better than horns (though I love the doubleface helmet if you can chop them off)...
The sails are hot, real hot. The only thing bunk is the male wyches, but if there's only 2 in the box and you can torso swap them to warriors its not so bad.
Can't you just use 10 Lelith models for wyches? /swoon
I LOVE the faceless masks... LOVE THEM!
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Post by: Lork Skystompa
Got my GW newsletter this morning and while I'm not a Dark Eldar fan , the minis look quite nice . Definitely an improvement although I still don't like the Lilith model . 
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Post by: Fishboy
Anything on that Talos?
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Post by: Nurglitch
Good call Fishboy.
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Post by: George Spiggott
Given a trim of all those goofy spikes and such, the new Raider would make a great pulp sci-fi martian skimmer. Give it six months or so and I'll pick one up cheap second hand. Battleship grey or terracotta for the paint job?
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Post by: puma713
Fishboy wrote:Anything on that Talos?
Not yet, but, supposedly, the Shadowfield is still in and exactly the same.
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Post by: Lord Harrab
Good Lord those models are awesome, i want to collect them but my IG are barley even started, so i'll wait a bit.
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Post by: Savnock
This is about rules ect.
Power from Pain- After destroying non-vehicle unit, DE gets on winners pain token.
One token on unit and DE have FnP
2 on and FC
3 on and fearless
Tokens are cumulative and rule army wide.
Wow. That's some serious power creep right there. Unless there's a points-hike, in combo with the new poisoned weapon rules this would make DE warriors the hardest basic infantry unit in the game. FNP every time they wipe out 3 jetbikes? FC after they take something else out? Wow. Expect that to slant the metagame against MSU more than kill points ever did. Hope there's some way for them to _lose_ those tokens too, or DE will be the new win button. The designers were _probably_ smart enough to balance out something that obvious... but.... we are in a depression ("recession" my ass) and sales are imperative. So maybe not.
Incubi are hard. And I meant HARD. Yes they're only T3, S3, with a 3+ save, but their (power) weapons add +1 to strength and 2 attacks basic. Their squad leader (WS5, 3 Attacks) has a weapon that either gives him +2 attacks or +2 S. Also he has a power that him, and any member of the squad that rolls a 6 to hit gets another attack add infinitium.
That sounds like a mighty useful glass hammer. But if they can get FNP too? Game over, man.
Even as a prospective DE player I'm a little worried by all this. But maybe such AMAZING models deserve broken rules
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Post by: ergotoxin
I'm impressed. The jetbike, the female models... All done very well.
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Post by: Kroothawk
Absolutionis wrote:My only disappointment is that the Dark Eldar Jetbikes aren't Craftworld Jetbikes with spikes. I was hoping to actually convert some decent-looking Craftworld Eldar Jetbikes.
Are you sure?
I guess, this solves the old riddle of what happened to Jes'old jetbike prototype
Mr_Rose wrote:OK, rules rumours then:
"Power from Pain" is a fairly common special rule of the sort that gets explained once just before the bestiary-proper and gets re-used often, mostly on wych cult units from what I saw.
Essentially, each unit with the rule gets a token or marker for each kill it makes then receives a bonus USR depending on the number of tokens.
Incubi-weapons (called Klaives now) are two-handed +1Str Power Weapons like they are now, but there is an upgraded version (presumably available to the sergeant) which consists of two smaller blades that can either be wielded as two single handed weapons, giving extra attacks, or as a single two-handed weapon giving +2Str. Both modes are power weapons.
The chain-of-blades weapon seen on the sprue and in some of the pics is a wych weapon that gives +2A, as well as re-rolls to hit and to wound.
Also, wych weapons are back as individual types with individual rules. Shardnets entangle, reducing attacks again and so on.
That's all I got, for now.
Hmm, might the specialty item be those tokens?
Morganstern wrote:A few rules that I managed to glean-
Strength through pain - the unit gains an upgrade every time it wipes out a unit(up to 3), the first is feel no pain, the second is furyous charge, the third is fearless.
Reaver jetbikes can turbo boost up to 36" and can do a fly by attack when they turbo boost that iflicts D3 S4 (I think) hits per jetbike, this attack can be upgraded with wargear.
combat drugs are in, you now roll once for all units in the army with combat drugs and they all get the same benefit.
Weapons alredy posted are righ although Splinter carbine is called the Shard carbine and will be on a later units sprue.
Wytch weapons - one that reduses the attacks of all mod in B to B by one.
one that allows the wytch to re roll any to hit and to wound rolls
and one other that I can't remember (damn)
Wytches still have a 4+ dodge.
Also there are expantions to the types of beasts warpbeast masters can have and I was told there will be more units for the Hemonculus side of the army.
DrLove42 from BolS wrote:Didn't read much of the fluff at the beginning, but theres a big story with DE and Tau. And then a story about how after Iyanden defeat the Nids they're nearly wiped out by an Ork incursion. They keep waking more and more wraith constructs until the DE come and rescue them because "they're amused by the Eldars necromantic games"
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Post by: Xca|iber
Savnock wrote:
This is about rules ect.
Power from Pain- After destroying non-vehicle unit, DE gets on winners pain token.
One token on unit and DE have FnP
2 on and FC
3 on and fearless
Tokens are cumulative and rule army wide.
Wow. That's some serious power creep right there. Unless there's a points-hike, in combo with the new poisoned weapon rules this would make DE warriors the hardest basic infantry unit in the game. FNP every time they wipe out 3 jetbikes? FC after they take something else out? Wow. Expect that to slant the metagame against MSU more than kill points ever did. Hope there's some way for them to _lose_ those tokens too, or DE will be the new win button. The designers were _probably_ smart enough to balance out something that obvious... but.... we are in a depression ("recession" my ass) and sales are imperative. So maybe not.
Incubi are hard. And I meant HARD. Yes they're only T3, S3, with a 3+ save, but their (power) weapons add +1 to strength and 2 attacks basic. Their squad leader (WS5, 3 Attacks) has a weapon that either gives him +2 attacks or +2 S. Also he has a power that him, and any member of the squad that rolls a 6 to hit gets another attack add infinitium.
That sounds like a mighty useful glass hammer. But if they can get FNP too? Game over, man. Even as a prospective DE player I'm a little worried by all this. But maybe such AMAZING models deserve broken rules
I wouldn't be surprised if they lost tokens every time they lost a combat. Or better yet, their tokens transferred to the winning player (Just kidding)
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Post by: rodgers37
Did anyone who saw the codex, notice if jetbikes where troops/could be taken as troops?
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Post by: Eidolon
Guess ill be starting a crone world eldar army come september
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Post by: Spiff
Shas?ka t suam wrote:yeah, I'd probably stay away from the back banners to keep autarch and archon separate, was that whip in the old codex? and could dark eldar ever have fusion guns (I only played against one person who played DE and he did the Dark lance sniper thing)
The whip (though it came in other forms too) was the Agonizer. Always wounds on a 4+ and is a powerweapon, IIRC.
DE didn't have fusion guns. Closest equivalent that they had was a blaster...a Str 8, 12" lance weapon.
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Post by: Jackal
For feth sake GW!
I try to save money, i really do, but then something like this comes in and causes me to spend again.
When can we expect pre-orders to be taken?
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Post by: kenshin620
۞ Jack ۞ wrote:For feth sake GW!
I try to save money, i really do, but then something like this comes in and causes me to spend again.
When can we expect pre-orders to be taken?
Oct 5th.
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Post by: Luthon1234
puma713 wrote:A bit about Strength Through Pain over on BoLS (Credit to GrenAcid):
So I was talking with Phill for a while and this is what I know:
Mandreaks are shadow bit chaos thing that eats souls and glow green(you on cover)
New character former DE queen..and Vects wive....after he dump her, she started planning revange on him.
This is about rules ect.
Power from Pain- After destroying non-vehicle unit, DE gets on winners pain token.
One token on unit and DE have FnP
2 on and FC
3 on and fearless
Tokens are cumulative and rule army wide.
Reavers inflicts impact hits on units they fly trough. D3 S3 for each bike, with some options to improve.
Incubi are very simmilar to aspect warriors; exarch witch special powers and wepons....(i recall one with Preffered enemy).
Wyches have 3 diffrent wych weapons.....look nice.
Archon have new retinue of some nasty bodyguards, incubi ale elite mercenaries now.
Ravager can shoot al three lances on cruising speed.
And, credit to DrLove 42
Harlequins are identical to their craftworld eldar...smae statlines, wargear and points
Mandrakes have some kind of shooting attack that gets stronger with every kill they make
3 Brand new units, never before seen in DE codex
Incubi are hard. And I meant HARD. Yes they're only T3, S3, with a 3+ save, but their (power) weapons add +1 to strength and 2 attacks basic. Their squad leader (WS5, 3 Attacks) has a weapon that either gives him +2 attacks or +2 S. Also he has a power that him, and any member of the squad that rolls a 6 to hit gets another attack add infinitium.
Archon is WS 7 BS 7, but doesn't have full wargear wardrobe like in last codex (least not that I saw)
FREAKING AWESOME! It sucks that we lost full wargear on the archon but its good that the Shadow field is still the same. For those who don't know (like me) what does FC stand for?
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Post by: chaos0xomega
Eidolon wrote:Guess ill be starting a crone world eldar army come september
I was thinking the same, but we will have to see what the rules look like. I'm not sure how representative of crone worlders the DE codex will be
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Post by: Jackal
Cheers ken
Guess this wont be a cheap time for me.
Got 3 tomb stalkers to add to my crons to start with, now this.
May aswell order a 2,500 ish army, then sell/add what is/isnt needed afterwards.
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Post by: kenshin620
Luthon1234 wrote:
FREAKING AWESOME! It sucks that we lost full wargear on the archon but its good that the Shadow field is still the same. For those who don't know (like me) what does FC stand for?
FC is furious charge
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Post by: puma713
Savnock wrote: FNP every time they wipe out 3 jetbikes? FC after they take something else out? Wow. Expect that to slant the metagame against MSU more than kill points ever did. Hope there's some way for them to _lose_ those tokens too, or DE will be the new win button. The designers were _probably_ smart enough to balance out something that obvious... but.... we are in a depression ("recession" my ass) and sales are imperative. So maybe not.
That's what I'm wondering about - how much Dark Eldar are going to change the meta-game. Are they going to make taking MSUs undesirable? When building your list for a tournament, are you going to have to wonder, "well a unit of 3 jetbikes could easily swing advantage to the DE, so maybe I should rethink that." If so, they've effectively shifted the meta with the inclusion of a single rule. Of course, we have to see how it all pans out, but I could see things changing a bit to brace for the incoming Dark Eldar.
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
Maybe the cost of DE units remains the same but they receive some improved stats/abilities?
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Post by: frgsinwntr
puma713 wrote:Savnock wrote: FNP every time they wipe out 3 jetbikes? FC after they take something else out? Wow. Expect that to slant the metagame against MSU more than kill points ever did. Hope there's some way for them to _lose_ those tokens too, or DE will be the new win button. The designers were _probably_ smart enough to balance out something that obvious... but.... we are in a depression ("recession" my ass) and sales are imperative. So maybe not.
That's what I'm wondering about - how much Dark Eldar are going to change the meta-game. Are they going to make taking MSUs undesirable? When building your list for a tournament, are you going to have to wonder, "well a unit of 3 jetbikes could easily swing advantage to the DE, so maybe I should rethink that." If so, they've effectively shifted the meta with the inclusion of a single rule. Of course, we have to see how it all pans out, but I could see things changing a bit to brace for the incoming Dark Eldar.
i don't think the addition of one army special rule will... if msu is still more likely to win most games... i wouldn't change
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Post by: Kroothawk
Here the Mandrake concept art, as posted by Hypaspist over at Warseer:
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Post by: gremmie0
That mandrake concept hurts my brain with its awesomeness.
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Post by: Jackal
0_o
Wasnt sure if DE could look much better, but after the mandrake art ive been blown away.
Cheers kroot.
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Post by: puma713
They all seem to have a sort of Japanese-esque samurai-pirate theme to them it seems. Maybe it's just me.
Also, a tidbit about other models not yet discussed, from Mr. Rose at Warseer:
Oh, did anyone else catch that Grotesques are being re-styled as Ogryn-sized monstrosities? And that there will still be human-sized haemonculus constructs, but they will have a different name and be "much more aggressive" as I was told.
. . .Not sure; all I got was a look at an art-piece (which I think has been seen before; the one with the creatures that seem to have an extra spine curving over their backs) and an explanation that the big thing in back was a new-style grotesque and the jumping-spine things were the man-sized replacements.
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Post by: Asherian Command
OMG FINNALY! IT ONLY TOOK LIKE HOW LONG?
*dances*
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Post by: gremmie0
puma713 wrote:They all seem to have a sort of Japanese-esque samurai-pirate theme to them it seems. Maybe it's just me.
Nah its there, but we can do worse than samurai space pirates with dayglo hair
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Post by: Sidstyler
I'm ecstatic, lol. These models all look great (LOVE the warriors, basic troops that don't look like ass = win!), but it's almost like they're TOO good...I'm scared to death to even attempt painting them.
It took over a decade, but DE went from having the worst model range to the best. I hope the rules are just as good.
They all seem to have a sort of Japanese-esque samurai-pirate theme to them it seems. Maybe it's just me.
That's what I like so much about them.
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Post by: gremmie0
Sidstyler wrote:I'm ecstatic, lol. These models all look great (LOVE the warriors, basic troops that don't look like ass = win!), but it's almost like they're TOO good...I'm scared to death to even attempt painting them.
Yeah, can someone explain the blue-green edging in 300 words or less on the warriors and raiders? Getting that to pop on black seems like it would take forever.
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
It's there Puma
me like.
Mandrakes are one unit I don't already have and may just have to get if that sketch is anything to go by.
Hope the rules are good for them too.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Re highlight on black:
Edge with a suitable foundation?
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Post by: Sidstyler
gremmie0 wrote:Sidstyler wrote:I'm ecstatic, lol. These models all look great (LOVE the warriors, basic troops that don't look like ass = win!), but it's almost like they're TOO good...I'm scared to death to even attempt painting them.
Yeah, can someone explain the blue-green edging in 300 words or less on the warriors and raiders? Getting that to pop on black seems like it would take forever.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not...but yeah, it would. To get it to look that good, anyway.
I don't think it's straight black, either. Maybe it's just the lighting but it looks like the green is blended into it.
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Post by: The Good Green
ooooOOOOOooooo- I like those. I can see some easy Harlequin conversions in there, too.
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Post by: Ahtman
I hope they still have the DE on Goblin Gliders.
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Post by: rodgers37
rodgers37 wrote:Did anyone who saw the codex, notice if jetbikes where troops/could be taken as troops?
I would love an answer if anyone has it?
That Mandrake concept art is AWSEOME don't think i've every seen a drawing that looks so good....
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Post by: LunaHound
Anyone notice the new DE's head and hands are less "heroic" now? the proportion are moving closer to Rackhams's sculpts.
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
Was wondering what the Doon Gliders would be doing here!
IIRC a while back the Helions were mentioned as being scheduled for a later wave
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Post by: gremmie0
Sidstyler wrote:
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not...but yeah, it would. To get it to look that good, anyway.
I don't think it's straight black, either. Maybe it's just the lighting but it looks like the green is blended into it.
No sarcasm. If i tried to do that, I'd end up having to buy more raiders to replace the ones I just ruined
Time to scrounge up some test metals.
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Post by: Chibi Bodge-Battle
Yeah someone else picked up on that too Luna
is a good spot and imho a welcome aspect of the sculpts
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Post by: LunaHound
Kanluwen wrote:One's a resin master, the other's a production run plastic.
Its angle and perspective... unless you can prove that one is resin.
You noticed in HHDD/s original quote of the 2 pics , the size keep alternating back and forth?
Its because the photographer is pressing the camera right against the glass ( no doubt trying to get less glass glare (
thus the funky angle and perspective from close uo shots makes the 2 pic's size ratio move back and forth.
Case solved gang. scooby snack yes?
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Post by: Kanluwen
It was solved two pages ago.
And there's no glass. It's a presentation being projected on a screen.
No scooby snack for you.
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Post by: Kirasu
Guess I know where my hobby money for November is going
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Post by: rodgers37
Kirasu, how did you manage to get soo many points of 40k? you been playing for 20 years?
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Post by: kestral
The Mandrake and Grotesque rumors/concept sound good to me. I hope the mandrakes kept their weird special rule, as I really like it compared to "Infiltrate, move through cover, stealth". Ogryn sized constructs FTW!
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Post by: Kirasu
rodgers37 wrote:Kirasu, how did you manage to get soo many points of 40k? you been playing for 20 years?
I've done a lot of trading and cheap ebay buying or I buy stuff really cheap from people who just want cash now. Probably about 10k points are from tournament prizes .. Very little was bought at retail price but what is bought is from my FLGS. When you grow up in a family without much money you learn how to get stuff without having to burn cash :p
Oh, and probably the biggest reason.. Wife and I work but have no kids so they dont take my toy money!
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Post by: Kroothawk
This seems to be a limited edition DE model, maybe the third metal blister next to Archon and Lelith:
Fun fact: Jes worked on this DE miniature range for 5 years!
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Post by: Kirasu
I hope he had Gary morley chained in a cage forced to watch for those 5 years
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Post by: kenshin620
Kroothawk wrote:
Fun fact: Jes worked on this DE miniature range for 5 years!
If people didnt like it, I think he would have hanged himself! Thankfully it paid off I bet!
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Post by: Archonate
Oh good. Mandrakes are now properly different from other DE, and even more dramatically than I'd hoped.
My prayer that they would get rid of their pistols was answered.
I love their creepy blacked out faces under the anime samurai hair.
Just as I'd hoped, Mandrakes will no longer be a unit for my opponents to laugh at. (Assuming the rumors about their new rules are true...)
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Post by: Casper
So does anyone know how the bikes will be boxed? Will they be individual like current eldar bikes and tau suits or will they be like SM bikes (3 per box). The other question I have is cost...I'm betting most of the units will be in the $35 range, bikes around $45?
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Post by: Red Corsair
Hey its not all Gary Morleys fault, some donkey-cave had to sign off on those sculpts....
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Post by: solkan
And here we see Mr. Soulripper and young Mr. Soulripper Jr. at Bring Your Child to Work Day! Those darned kids and their helmet spikes.
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Post by: Wolf
OOoooh Momma...This is not the kind of awesome release I need to kick start my Uni finances with.
And it really does look like I'm going to jump on the band wagon and get a dark eldar army, these models looks amazing !!
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Post by: Amaya
OH
MY
GOD
BEST MINIS EVER
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