Oooh, so it seems like they will be expanding Fimirs even more ;O I wonder, if they will go well with Magma Dragon. And the Khornate Dragon is wow. Though, imo, FW needs more neutral/destruction based dragons.
Curious what that guy with the horns and spines on his back is supposed to be (in the photo with the griffon hound). First thought was something Khorne related but I don't see any of the usual Khorne- related regalia.
An expanded Fimir line would be up my alley for certain.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: Curious what that guy with the horns and spines on his back is supposed to be (in the photo with the griffon hound). First thought was something Khorne related but I don't see any of the usual Khorne- related regalia.
An expanded Fimir line would be up my alley for certain.
There's a pretty Khorne like rune on his knee, but it's pretty subtle.
Anyone found any more pics? Bad Dice had 2 from what I believe is the new diorama that shows Sylvaneth fighting Ironjawz and Kurnoth Hunters mowing down Brutes, really hope someone uploads a good collection soon.
The new beast reminds me a lot of Skaarac in pose, but with less armor. The armor that it does have reminds me of the new bloodthristers that has the faces on it.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: Curious what that guy with the horns and spines on his back is supposed to be (in the photo with the griffon hound). First thought was something Khorne related but I don't see any of the usual Khorne- related regalia.
An expanded Fimir line would be up my alley for certain.
I was told it was a Khorne Daemon Prince and it was dwarfed by the new Chaos dragon.
I was told it was a Khorne Daemon Prince and it was dwarfed by the new Chaos dragon.
Interesting! He would make a pretty monstrous minotaur too though methinks . Has that other Khorne DP disappeared then? ie the one with the 2 handed axe and the rather badass looking Herald.
NoggintheNog wrote: I actually got the PP vibe from the dragon, its head is very Legion of Everblight.The archangel in particular
And I was about to say the, presumed, khorne daemon prince looked like a PP Skorne beast in posture, horns and headgear.
However, the PP wibe of these models luckily dont go as far as to mimic the constant awkvard poses of warmahordes.
Anyway, that same "daemon prince" look weird. It has that spine thing on his back that first made me think of a huge chaos-river troll, but I guess its really an echo of the bloodletter spine.
Rumour: Steamhead Duardin
Type: New sculpt plastic faction
Date expected: September 2016
Contents: Blimps and jump packs of some kind mentioned. Quite a steampunk faction.
Source: Squggly via BoLS and Unknown reader on Faeit 212
Estimated cost: Unknown
Rumour: Allegiances of the Realms
Type: Soft cover book
Date expected: September 2016
Contents: New book to update all existing factions with Allegiance Abilities, Command Traits, Artefacts and Lores
Source: Scanner on Spikybits
Estimated cost: £10-15
Rumour: Tzeentch Lord of Change
Type: New sculpt model
Date expected: Late 2016 after Duardin
Contents: Large plastic Lord of change, possible a dual kit similar to the recent bloodthirster.
Source: 75Hastings69 and Sad Panda via Warseer
Estimated cost: £80
Rumour: Tzeentch Arcanites
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: Late 2016 after Duardin
Contents: Large Tzeentch Faction release, Arcanites and Daemons
Source: Squiggly via BoLS and Lady Atia
Estimated cost: Unknown
Rumour: Slaanesh Keeper of Secrets
Type: New sculpt model
Date expected: late 2016
Contents: Large plastic Keeper of Secrets, possible a dual kit similar to the recent bloodthirster.
Source: 75Hastings69 via Warseer
Estimated cost: £80
Rumour: Death
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: late 2016
Contents: Unknown Death Faction
Source: BoLS leaked GW report
Estimated cost: £?
Distant Rumours
Rumour: Shadowkin faction
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: 2017 after Tzeentch
Contents: Shadowkin Faction release
Source: Squiggly via BoLS Estimated cost: Unknown
Rumour: Slaanesh
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: 2016/2017?
Contents: Plastic Slaanesh skulpts rumoured to be complete likely with Battletome
Source: Lady Atia
Estimated cost: Unknown
Rumour: Khornate Dragon
Type: New sculpt Resin model
Date expected: 2016/2017
Contents: Large dragon with mounted Khorne Lord
Source: Seen at Warhammer Fest 2016
Estimated cost: Unknown
Rumour: Fimirarch Noble
Type: New sculpt Resin model
Date expected: 2016/2017
Contents: Single Fimir Hero
Source: Seen at Warhammer Fest 2016
Estimated cost: Unknown
Rumour: Khorgorath
Type: New sculpt model
Date expected: 2016/2017
Contents: Multipart plastic Khorgorath, possibly a single model or unit.
Source: Lady Atia
Estimated cost: £40-50 for two
Rumour: Bretonnian, Tomb Kings and more factions
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: Unknown
Contents: New factions for Age of Sigmar. Possibly Free People, tomb kings and Wanderers factions. Wardancers specifically mentioned.
Source: TheInsider via Faeit 212
Estimated cost: Unknown
Just a point on the Duardin rumours [something I'm really looking forward to]- Atia expected them early next year [its on the rumour tracker and she posted it before the Fyre Slayers release]. It looks like it is chaos for the rest of the year for 40k and AoS, maybe with a Death expansion for Silver Tower?
Can't wait for that shelved Bret Hippogryph - now with Sigmar iconography put on with a shotgun and thrice the price it was originally planned for!
I have one hope for upcoming models for AoS and that is extremely unlikely it seems: rugged, dirty, practical human fighters/brigands/cultists. Heck, even a Zombie kit that has clothed parts would be a start. Anything to replace the lost Militia and M@A kits. Certainly the Free People need cutthroats, mercs, pirates, brigands and other scum to contrast with the Stormcasts, yes? At least my bits box needs them. Badly.
Yeah if I see Atia as the sauce, im gonna go with that.
Was hoping to hear about some sneak peaks of the new Duradin or something. Ohwell, not long till next month. 40k end times campaigns and probably a new AoS faction right after will be stellar.
Not really a fan thinking of the new Duradin just yet but definitely getting the new Battletome, mainly love the pages with all the different events for each army, loads of little lore snippets.
If there was one thing I would love for AoS would be a Storm of Magic like book that lets you capture/enthrall/dominate various beasts and monsters that roam the realms. There is always some giant animal skeleton in the artworks and there are frequent mentions of epic monsters in the Battletomes. Also I really want those beasts in the Bonesplitterz artwork that they are fighting. Call it a Realm of Ghur expansion I dont care just give us da beasties.
First, don't use BoLS as source as they have 0 clue. They are posting just clickbait.
Also, I would like to get a quote on that Slaanesh bit? I said Slaanesh isn't killed off afaik, I didn't gave any ETA or something on future releases ....
I'm really hoping the new Duardin are a continuation of the Ironbreaker and Hammerer kits- the first thing I thought when I got those was- I want a full army like these!
@Binabik15- I think thats what AoS could do with a little more is "grittier" factions- its all a bit polished at the moment.New Zombies like the corpsecart ones would be fantastic.
Atia wrote: Also it's funny how you included some Forgeworld stuff, but ignored the new Chaos Dwarfs and Fimir as army releases from them.
Don't shoot the messenger. This is a copy and paste from a list on the grand alliance community site. They would probably appreciate if you cleared up a few things with them.
While you are here have you heard anything at all about the steam head rumours? bols is unreliable at best but I would dearly love for thAt rumour to be true. We still have not heard what is coming in September.
silverstu wrote: I'm really hoping the new Duardin are a continuation of the Ironbreaker and Hammerer kits- the first thing I thought when I got those was- I want a full army like these!
@Binabik15- I think thats what AoS could do with a little more is "grittier" factions- its all a bit polished at the moment.New Zombies like the corpsecart ones would be fantastic.
Well on facebook people asked for new zombies and plastic blood knights and plastic vampire hero/lord. The guy or gal on facebook said they passed on people's requests and wait and see if nagash can conjure anything up. I highly suspect when we get the new vampire book deadwalkers and death mages are going to fold into them along perhaps with a vampire thrall kit.
Must admit, my love for death is slipping since AoS as I have just found the other factions more interesting now, but a proper Soulblight release with plastic vamps and bats would be very welcome.
unmercifulconker wrote: Must admit, my love for death is slipping since AoS as I have just found the other factions more interesting now, but a proper Soulblight release with plastic vamps and bats would be very welcome.
Issue is that Death barely has any releases and fluff has been somewhat lacking. We got our first proper fluff update with the lord of undeath realm gate book. Hell our core infrantry zombies and skeletons have not even been reboxed. I suspect the reason why they have not done the vampire book or deathrattle book is the simple fact that GW knew they were going to add spell lore's since GW does stuff in advance.
I would not want a vampire/deathrattle book that has no spell lore's in it some I am glad the book is being released in the new updated battle tomes. Considering the fluff from flesh eater courts and the newer battle tomes I can't wait for the soulblight book.
Yeah I was surprised by Flesh Eaters, did not expect to see such lore for a bunch of ghouls err I mean chivalrous knights seeking to uphold justice and their kings honour.
willb2064 wrote: Very happy to see a potentially expanded Fimir line, this type of release could slowly drag me into AOS.
Shame no additional Chaos Dwarf releases were shown, would love to see another infantry option for them.
According to attendees at the open day they do have plans to do more chaos dwarves.
Yep, both Chaos Dwarfs (or Legion of blabla, whatever they are called now ...) and Fimir are going to be FW's AoS babies. They want to give both armies an AoS feeling, so we may see the chaos dwarfs getting some kind of soft reboot.
Come on Forgeworld do a Fimir or Legions of Azgorh Battletome or even an Imperial Armour like book showing off a campaign in one of the realms. Come aaannnn do it, Im right here, what are you waiting for?!
Rumour: Steamhead Duardin
Type: New sculpt plastic faction
Date expected: September 2016
Contents: Blimps and jump packs of some kind mentioned. Quite a steampunk faction.
Source: Squggly via BoLS and Unknown reader on Faeit 212
Estimated cost: Unknown
If i do remember quickly at the beginning of this year projections for the Steamhead Duardin were for November 2016, so if not September then most likely November.
Also, I do wonder if perhaps the results of the Season of War will affect some of the releases? If seeing how bad or how good one faction did will move GW to re-arrange releases?
Rumour: Steamhead Duardin
Type: New sculpt plastic faction
Date expected: September 2016
Contents: Blimps and jump packs of some kind mentioned. Quite a steampunk faction.
Source: Squggly via BoLS and Unknown reader on Faeit 212
Estimated cost: Unknown
If i do remember quickly at the beginning of this year projections for the Steamhead Duardin were for November 2016, so if not September then most likely November.
Also, I do wonder if perhaps the results of the Season of War will affect some of the releases? If seeing how bad or how good one faction did will move GW to re-arrange releases?
Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if the next 4 releases lined up were one for each faction and the faction that wins gets their special release done at the same time as the next campaign, the other 3 would just stay in the same order. Would be strange for order to win but have massive death releases at that time.
Rumour: Steamhead Duardin
Type: New sculpt plastic faction
Date expected: September 2016
Contents: Blimps and jump packs of some kind mentioned. Quite a steampunk faction.
Source: Squggly via BoLS and Unknown reader on Faeit 212
Estimated cost: Unknown
If i do remember quickly at the beginning of this year projections for the Steamhead Duardin were for November 2016, so if not September then most likely November.
Also, I do wonder if perhaps the results of the Season of War will affect some of the releases? If seeing how bad or how good one faction did will move GW to re-arrange releases?
Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if the next 4 releases lined up were one for each faction and the faction that wins gets their special release done at the same time as the next campaign, the other 3 would just stay in the same order. Would be strange for order to win but have massive death releases at that time.
I think it's pretty easy for them to still have Death faction releases up next. A long campaign event full of battles large and small creates lots of casualties. GW just says that all the deaths from the fighting was enough to draw the attention of Nagash and company.
Rumour: Steamhead Duardin
Type: New sculpt plastic faction
Date expected: September 2016
Contents: Blimps and jump packs of some kind mentioned. Quite a steampunk faction.
Source: Squggly via BoLS and Unknown reader on Faeit 212
Estimated cost: Unknown
Blimps and jump packs, huh?
Well. We'll see. September isn't that far away now, and I always do so love to see BoLS and Faeit look like the trash peddlers they are.
Rumour: Allegiances of the Realms
Type: Soft cover book
Date expected: September 2016
Contents: New book to update all existing factions with Allegiance Abilities, Command Traits, Artefacts and Lores
Source: Scanner on Spikybits
Estimated cost: £10-15
Doubtful.
Rumour: Tzeentch Lord of Change
Type: New sculpt model
Date expected: Late 2016 after Duardin
Contents: Large plastic Lord of change, possible a dual kit similar to the recent bloodthirster.
Source: 75Hastings69 and Sad Panda via Warseer
Estimated cost: £80
Sad Panda, care to comment on this?
Rumour: Tzeentch Arcanites
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: Late 2016 after Duardin
Contents: Large Tzeentch Faction release, Arcanites and Daemons
Source: Squiggly via BoLS and Lady Atia
Estimated cost: Unknown
Lady Atia, care to comment on this?
I know you have commented on Tzeentch stuff before over this past year; but was this something you mentioned and I missed or is it just the normal Faeit/BoLS garbage of attributing something to a reputable source?
Rumour: Slaanesh Keeper of Secrets
Type: New sculpt model
Date expected: late 2016
Contents: Large plastic Keeper of Secrets, possible a dual kit similar to the recent bloodthirster.
Source: 75Hastings69 via Warseer
Estimated cost: £80
Funny how that's now two things attributed to Hastings via Warseer;after Warseer took a huuuuge hit and lost their servers.
Rumour: Death
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: late 2016
Contents: Unknown Death Faction
Source: BoLS leaked GW report
Estimated cost: £?
Distant Rumours
Where did this info come from, aside from BoLS?
Rumour: Shadowkin faction
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: 2017 after Tzeentch
Contents: Shadowkin Faction release
Source: Squiggly via BoLS Estimated cost: Unknown
I love how now BoLS is putting up rumors about Shadowkin. It used to be they were calling them "Shadow Elves".
Rumour: Slaanesh
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: 2016/2017?
Contents: Plastic Slaanesh skulpts rumoured to be complete likely with Battletome
Source: Lady Atia
Estimated cost: Unknown
Atia, can you comment on this one again?
Rumour: Khornate Dragon
Type: New sculpt Resin model
Date expected: 2016/2017
Contents: Large dragon with mounted Khorne Lord
Source: Seen at Warhammer Fest 2016
Estimated cost: Unknown
Rumour: Fimirarch Noble
Type: New sculpt Resin model
Date expected: 2016/2017
Contents: Single Fimir Hero
Source: Seen at Warhammer Fest 2016
Estimated cost: Unknown
Rumour: Khorgorath
Type: New sculpt model
Date expected: 2016/2017
Contents: Multipart plastic Khorgorath, possibly a single model or unit.
Source: Lady Atia
Estimated cost: £40-50 for two
It's not a "rumor" if you have photos of the item.
Rumour: Bretonnian, Tomb Kings and more factions
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: Unknown
Contents: New factions for Age of Sigmar. Possibly Free People, tomb kings and Wanderers factions. Wardancers specifically mentioned.
Source: TheInsider via Faeit 212
Estimated cost: Unknown
I think we have enough in place for Order. Destruction needs to be fleshed out more and Death could use some better alliances or whole armies instead of so many detachments.
Well. We'll see. September isn't that far away now, and I always do so love to see BoLS and Faeit look like the trash peddlers they are.
Rumour: Allegiances of the Realms
Type: Soft cover book
Date expected: September 2016
Contents: New book to update all existing factions with Allegiance Abilities, Command Traits, Artefacts and Lores
Source: Scanner on Spikybits
Estimated cost: £10-15
Doubtful.
Scanner has been a pretty decent rumor source, though usually not this far out.
I wouldn't be surprised, though. They said there were plans to update the Alliances that already had battletomes, and with how reasonable TGH was with its price and having all the points and everything, I could see them doing something like that.
While i dont have good contacts who can provide anything more than bits
Brets n TK are gone... if they re appear its going to be NOTHING like what they were. if they were willing to trash a army box / starter box thing for Brets for the stormcast one i think they are so gone its not even funny.
steampunk dwarves
not that im aware and if so honestly Jumpacks? ... please stop taking crazy lie pills.
as far as i understand there is some 40k stuff and a bit of tzentch
Well. We'll see. September isn't that far away now, and I always do so love to see BoLS and Faeit look like the trash peddlers they are.
Rumour: Allegiances of the Realms
Type: Soft cover book
Date expected: September 2016
Contents: New book to update all existing factions with Allegiance Abilities, Command Traits, Artefacts and Lores
Source: Scanner on Spikybits
Estimated cost: £10-15
Doubtful.
Scanner has been a pretty decent rumor source, though usually not this far out.
I wouldn't be surprised, though. They said there were plans to update the Alliances that already had battletomes, and with how reasonable TGH was with its price and having all the points and everything, I could see them doing something like that.
Agreed on the point that, GW themselves confirmed around the Handbook release that they "Wanted to do something for the factions already released", in terms of Allegiance Traits, and in the case of the quote I saw, spell lores specifically. I'd say this is a very, very plausible rumor.
Brets n TK are gone... if they re appear its going to be NOTHING like what they were. if they were willing to trash a army box / starter box thing for Brets for the stormcast one i think they are so gone its not even funny.
I'm sure there will be some new human cavalry units when Free Peoples/Free Guilds get a release, but they won't be Bretonians since there is no longer a Bretonia. As far as the Tomb Kings, I've heard from a friend who used to work for GW (he's about 50% so far on rumors) that Death will eventually get a subfaction that is close enough in style to Tomb Kings that it'll satisfy TK players.
Brets n TK are gone... if they re appear its going to be NOTHING like what they were. if they were willing to trash a army box / starter box thing for Brets for the stormcast one i think they are so gone its not even funny.
I'm sure there will be some new human cavalry units when Free Peoples/Free Guilds get a release, but they won't be Bretonians since there is no longer a Bretonia. As far as the Tomb Kings, I've heard from a friend who used to work for GW (he's about 50% so far on rumors) that Death will eventually get a subfaction that is close enough in style to Tomb Kings that it'll satisfy TK players.
Considering they've named dropped "The Obsidian Empire" a couple times now, and have mentioned Necrosphinx's etc... I'd say that is likely too. GW isn't distancing themselves from the faction, and if anything is just pivoting to some new naming.
I am not a fantasy or AoS player, but these two rumors are enticing. I love me some Tzeentch!
Rumour: Tzeentch Lord of Change
Type: New sculpt model
Date expected: Late 2016 after Duardin
Contents: Large plastic Lord of change, possible a dual kit similar to the recent bloodthirster.
Source: 75Hastings69 and Sad Panda via Warseer
Estimated cost: £80
Rumour: Tzeentch Arcanites
Type: New sculpt models
Date expected: Late 2016 after Duardin
Contents: Large Tzeentch Faction release, Arcanites and Daemons
Source: Squiggly via BoLS and Lady Atia
Estimated cost: Unknown
Brets n TK are gone... if they re appear its going to be NOTHING like what they were. if they were willing to trash a army box / starter box thing for Brets for the stormcast one i think they are so gone its not even funny.
I'm sure there will be some new human cavalry units when Free Peoples/Free Guilds get a release, but they won't be Bretonians since there is no longer a Bretonia. As far as the Tomb Kings, I've heard from a friend who used to work for GW (he's about 50% so far on rumors) that Death will eventually get a subfaction that is close enough in style to Tomb Kings that it'll satisfy TK players.
Considering they've named dropped "The Obsidian Empire" a couple times now, and have mentioned Necrosphinx's etc... I'd say that is likely too. GW isn't distancing themselves from the faction, and if anything is just pivoting to some new naming.
I am not sure it's true. Other boxes have been rebranded and TK had some fairly new kits that were just junked with the rest of them.
If they bring them back in any form but keeps the style and rebellion against clown face I'd support it even going as to breaking my non AoS vow. But I'm fairly sure that if they do they will be reinstated in a new way that differs significantly. And if they change too much what made them special will be gone and ill keep my non support.
However Chaos Dwarves were mentioned in warhammer and are relegated to a FW sub army. Mentioning something doesn't make it set to appear. As are others. They probably will just be rumours like the fishmen
Free people's are basically sigmar worshippers or bust . Releasing a knight kit probably will happen. But it is not going to be Brets 2.0 . Please don't say it will be similar because I know it won't.
If you like AoS fine but please don't peddle these oh they will be back kinda rumours because if Sisters have taught me anything once you are pushed so far your gone.
Only reasons I can think of for a new Tomb kings release is because the "living" Tomb kings rumor is the reason or that the new aethestic won't be Egyptian.
Looking at the Flesh-Eater court, either rumor could be true as it appears the trend for Undeath will be those that serve Nagash and those who can choose not to. (Kinda hard to believe simple skeletons can negate his control without a serious upgrade)
A future Bret force is possible but certainly won't be "Bretonnians" anymore. I can see an expansion from the Azyrheim Lancehost making new knights.
It's interesting that alot of pre-chaos Mortal realms lore bits point to a Bretonnian-like setting with Stormcasts coming from destroyed royal households and duchies that had royalty fight from mounts. The Lantic Empire's fall that contributes to alot of ghouls that envision themselves as a royal army also is of interest..
@Wellofeternity, thanks so much for the rumors!
I only listen to what Atia and Sad Panda contribute, though. The allegiance update seems possible at least.
Baron Klatz wrote: Only reasons I can think of for a new Tomb kings release is because the "living" Tomb kings rumor is the reason or that the new aethestic won't be Egyptian.
Looking at the Flesh-Eater court, either rumor could be true as it appears the trend for Undeath will be those that serve Nagash and those who can choose not to. (Kinda hard to believe simple skeletons can negate his control without a serious upgrade)
A future Bret force is possible but certainly won't be "Bretonnians" anymore. I can see an expansion from the Azyrheim Lancehost making new knights.
It's interesting that alot of pre-chaos Mortal realms lore bits point to a Bretonnian-like setting with Stormcasts coming from destroyed royal households and duchies that had royalty fight from mounts. The Lantic Empire's fall that contributes to alot of ghouls that envision themselves as a royal army also is of interest..
@Wellofeternity, thanks so much for the rumors!
I only listen to what Atia and Sad Panda contribute, though. The allegiance update seems possible at least.
if TK are not egyptianesque then they are hardly tomb kings.. i guess they could go barrow king route... but again its not exactly the same.. i guess they could go celtic...
Lantic where would i find this info? same for Azyrhiem ?
Not sure if it is or any significance, but browsing on the UK site I noticed that, of all the Verminlord variants, only the Verminlord Corruptor is still listed on the website.
All other variants are gone, not out of stock, not unavailable, simply gone.
Switched to the US site and they're gone there too.
backlash13 wrote: Not sure if it is or any significance, but browsing on the UK site I noticed that, of all the Verminlord variants, only the Verminlord Corruptor is still listed on the website.
All other variants are gone, not out of stock, not unavailable, simply gone.
Switched to the US site and they're gone there too.
The box makes all 5, the repackaged box with a round base is just branded as the Corruptor.
Interestingly, the Phoenicium seems to have the most favorable outcome for Order and was also won by the largest margin. Meanwhile, the Greywater Fastness is described as being nearly overrun and was the city where Order had the smallest margin of victory. But I may be reading too much into it.
NinthMusketeer wrote: Interestingly, the Phoenicium seems to have the most favorable outcome for Order and was also won by the largest margin. Meanwhile, the Greywater Fastness is described as being nearly overrun and was the city where Order had the smallest margin of victory. But I may be reading too much into it.
I would say that its exactly as you said. I mean I would imagine a large part of GW letting us see the live graphs was so there was a feeling of either desperation or pride based on the circumstances. For them to carry that into the postmortem lore would make the most sense.
Something interesting I noted about the Phoenicium's result was the "amber haze", later described as a mist, sounds awfully similar in nature to the WHQ Mistweaver. Given that GW has been slipping in references to all their new releases in the campaign books and battletomes that release beforehand, I wonder if this is meant as another hint towards the elf redesign having mist as a theme for their spellcasters?
Some nice models, but correct me if I'm wrong - I thought Fimirs were a taboo subject at GW, due to the nature of their creation, and thus banned, because they didn't fit in with the family friendly image?
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Some nice models, but correct me if I'm wrong - I thought Fimirs were a taboo subject at GW, due to the nature of their creation, and thus banned, because they didn't fit in with the family friendly image?
Or maybe they changed the background?
Well they can certainly change background at will. Whatever GW wants they can do it with their fluff. Or are customers going to sue them for changing previous background?-)
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Some nice models, but correct me if I'm wrong - I thought Fimirs were a taboo subject at GW, due to the nature of their creation, and thus banned, because they didn't fit in with the family friendly image?
Or maybe they changed the background?
Nature of their creation? Please explain, I couldn't find anything shady with a quick search.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Some nice models, but correct me if I'm wrong - I thought Fimirs were a taboo subject at GW, due to the nature of their creation, and thus banned, because they didn't fit in with the family friendly image?
Or maybe they changed the background?
Nature of their creation? Please explain, I couldn't find anything shady with a quick search.
Females are sterile so they kidnap human girls for breeding.
Well the dust has settled from the excitement of the weekend and I'm finally back in the land of the living. So where to start - the beginning is probably a good place!
With most events at Warhammer World I tend to travel up by train on the Friday before, generally arriving late afternoon, with enough time to drop my bags off at the hotel and wander over to Bugmans for a couple of pints and burger for tea. This event was no different really, train journey nice and smooth and grub was excellent as usual - half a cow and pig in a bun, what's not to like (unless you don't eat meat). With the Open Day being on the Saturday there was a slow trickle of staff moving display cabinets into the staff canteen area. On the way out I chatted with Alex in the store and saw the WHW exclusive Stormcast miniature painted up and in a cabinet. The released pictures don't do the model justice and it has a far more dynamic pose than I was expecting.
The Saturday started with @Penddraig and I having a hearty breakfast at the hotel and wandering over to arrive around 9.30. The queue had just about reached the bike shed/smoking shelter so wasn't anywhere near as crazy as the Forge World Open Day a few weeks previous. The usual drill of staff bringing out a promotional flyer, pin badges and lanyards before we were all allowed in when the doors opened. After getting in we headed straight over to the studio area...
The studio was split into a number of sections, White Dwarf, Forge World, The WHW Studio, Eavy Metal, Sculptors and lastly Army Painters. You also had Warhammer TV in the form of @Rufio going round and videoing and Tony Cottrell taking photos. What was very strange was the complete lack of design studio - so the people who write the rules, lists, etc.
The White Dwarf area had the Getting Started box armies from the Tale of Four Gamers series that they've been running recently and Dan Harden's new Skaven army set up on a display board. It was really nice to see some alternative colour schemes rather than the more traditional box art variations.
Out of everything there, I think Forge World contained the biggest surprises with three previously unknown models in the form of the Fimir Hag with slave, Fimir Sorcerer and Khorne Daemon Prince.
Speaking to the scultors Penddraig and I gleened a few bits of information. Firstly the links to Irish Celtic mythology is being kept and used to shape the feel of the race. The Fimir are a matriarchal society which is represented by the Hag being a good 50% ~ 70% larger than the male warriors. The intention is the Hag will have a number of (possibly blind) slaves and also have a cauldron. The sorcerer has a more slight build than the warriors and the casting hand has yet to be done (it likely won't be a pointing finger as the sculpt suggests). The question as to if this will become a full army is basically down to how successful the range does in its current format. Whilst it is popular Forge World will continue making new Fimir models, if this at some point means they become a full army then brilliant, but it's deliberately being kept flexible.
Trish Carden has done a phenomical job on the new Khornate Chaos Dragon and it is an absolute beast, festooned with embedded skulls and detail in the same way as much of the rest of the Khorne range. The Chaos Lord (who I hope is available as a single miniature) is going to be stood upon the back of the dragon in a Dune sand-worm style fashion, likely just holding onto some chains embedded into its mounts scales. I think my only concern is that the size of this model will mean it only gets fielded in epically large games of 5000+ points with very little scenery.
What is likely Keith Robertson last AoS sculpt before he moves onto other projects is a rather beefy looking Khorne Daemon Prince. As you would expect with something Khorne related the actual model looks brutal, basically the love child of a Bloodthirster and Minotaur. The more you look the more you spot little nods to both mortal and daemon models, from the Bloodletter spine to Bloodbound manacles. The shield is quite curious too with a daemonic face stretched across its surface in the same way as Valkia has. This actually suggests that the model may get its own warscroll as the standard Daemon Prince warscroll doesn't have any rules for a shield or axe. Although it would have been nice to see some of the other Chaos deities get some love the new Daemon Prince will end up in my army!
Two new display pieces were being shown off by the WHW Studio team who I don't think have been given space at an event before. There was a new (completed) Sylvaneth vs Oruks display which was stunning and really nice to have the opportunity to see this properly before it gets put into a cabinet behind glass. The counter-part to this a Oruk vs Sylvaneth display which is very much in the starting stages. Speaking to the guys it's really interesting to find out all of the tricks and tips they use for building something like this - for example all of the tree elements are actually old roots and branches, however rather than just sticking them into a board they carefully interweave other branches to scale them down and then apply a certain amount of paint to them to bring them into line with the scene. One thing I didn't realise either is that they're the same people who create all of the scenery for the Warhammer World gaming tables and there were a couple of nice ruined pieces of terrain that I may need to borrow ideas from.
As you would expect the Eavy Metal team were on hand with a selection of models and lots of advice if you wanted to know something. They also ran a couple of Demo Pods, one on painting ice & crystal effect weapons (which I didn't get to) and one on how they painted the Maw Krusha (more on that in a bit).
As strange as it sounds, we probably spent the most amount of time talking to the sculptors who were sat painting a few models. Worth a massive mention are Maxime Pastourel's amazing Bloodbound conversions. These were made using a mixture of different miniatures and painted in a pale off-white armour - and looked phenomenal. He's somehow captured the brutal nature of the Bloodbound and his Lord of Juggernaught is a work of art. He also spent quite a bit of time explaining to me what parts he's used and some of the thinking behind the models.
Speaking to Aly Morrison, what was quite interesting is hearing some of the ways that things have changed as a result of 3d CAD. On the surface it's pretty obvious they've gained rapid prototyping using 3d printers, but there are a whole host of other benefits. Previously the model would need to be made 3-up, pantograph cut into a steel mold, cast up (hopefully with no problems), first run passed to 'Eavy Metal and then the box can start to be designed. The process is now much more streamlined; a 3d print can be used to create resin models so 'Eavy Metal can start painting before production. The steel mold can be cut using CNC machines (on site) removing the time-intensive need for pantographing. The decision on how many and the size of the sprues was decided right at the start of the project which means the box art can be designed whilst the models are being painted so can be printed ready for when the first sprues come from production. Amazing really.
However 3d CAD hasn't sped up the actual sculpting process and has actually added more work for the sculptors as they do the sprue layout in addition to the model sculpts. This has had the benefit that they have pretty much free range to fill up the sprue with as much stuff as they fancy - those random things like owls and such like are the brain child of one of the sculptors! It was also confirmed that there is no theoretical maximum size of a kit, the largest sprue they produce is the "tank" sprue (as used on models such as the Baneblade) but they could feasibly produce as many as them as they wished for a single kit. Where the limit comes is down to return on investment, would Games Workshop sell enough models to cover the investment etc. One other interesting snippet is the box size and number of sprues appears to be how prices are currently calculated rather than what the unit does in game. This does make sense and explains why the getting started box sets are such good value.
The team work on projects from across all of the game systems and the average lead time on a new model is 2 years. This can be rapidly reduced (for example the recent anniversary marine was produced in 2 months) or lengthened (strong hints at a race of fish men have been being worked on for some time). Reading between the lines any range that is in a Grand Alliance book will receive some love in the future, it may be reworked models/imagery or new units but they are working on new and exciting things. This part of Games Workshop is now also "product secure" which explains the reduction in the number of murky WIP shots.
What I think was really impressive what the enthusiasm that the sculptors all have. Even though they may have worked on something a couple of years back, they're still really keen to see it and get a copy to paint up or convert.
The demo pod on the Maw Krusha had Maxime explaining how he had evolved the classic Wyvern and how Max Faleij had developed the paint schemes. Maxime's concept is that to an Oruk a beast is either to kill or ride and if they rode it, it needed to have the same mentality as they do. One interesting point was that they 3d-printed some miniature Maw Krusha's to practice the paint scheme to use (somehow the small size made them look cute and numerous people now wish to own one). Max did give a few tips if you paint one and said that you need to make sure that the armour and skin of the rider needs to contrast enough against the scales of the wyvern. Also the head has been deliberately designed to clip into place so you can paint it separately and then just clip it into place - you can also do the same with the mask and the models 'Eavy Metal have painted have been done so the mask is entirely removable.
Unlike the Forge World Open Day, Golden Demon was held in one of the conference rooms rather than at the back end of the staff canteen. This was really beneficial as some people were at the event just for Golden Demon (and why not!) which meant they could happily tuck down into a chair there in the relative quiet and speak to fellow painters. Although there weren't many entries the standard was really high as you would expect. Next year I'm tempted to enter too, although I'm not high enough level to win a demon, the set up was much better for the style I tend to paint my display miniatures in.
If you're a teacher and wish to introduce Age of Sigmar into a school gaming club you're also very much in luck. They now have a new member of staff (sorry I didn't take her name) and created packs that they will send out to schools at the start of the new year to introduce children to the hobby. It sounds like there are various games designed to teach children (and staff who don't play) the rules in simple stages.
Overall that was pretty much it, the sales area had a number of new items up for sale (new Stormcast and a couple of Ironjawz bits) and there were a few games being run. Bugmans also had a one-day-offer Gore-Grunta hot dog which did look amazing.
In summary the day was really enjoyable and I cannot fault the format or how things ran. I do feel that it was a missed opportunity not to have had some of the studio team there to quiz on how AoS is going to progress and possibly somebody from the FAQ team though as it did mean we couldn't find very much out about the ultimate direction of the game. That said I wouldn't say that spoiled the day in the slightest.
Well I think I've prattled on enough now! I did participate in the tournament on the Sunday, but think this would be better in a separate post for fear of ranting
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Some nice models, but correct me if I'm wrong - I thought Fimirs were a taboo subject at GW, due to the nature of their creation, and thus banned, because they didn't fit in with the family friendly image?
Or maybe they changed the background?
Nature of their creation? Please explain, I couldn't find anything shady with a quick search.
Human females were kidnapped...and you know the rest...
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Some nice models, but correct me if I'm wrong - I thought Fimirs were a taboo subject at GW, due to the nature of their creation, and thus banned, because they didn't fit in with the family friendly image?
Or maybe they changed the background?
Well they can certainly change background at will. Whatever GW wants they can do it with their fluff. Or are customers going to sue them for changing previous background?-)
It was more the graphic nature of that background that was the problem...
Games Workshop love to recycle theme from warhammer to age of sigmar
for the human, they could merge the empire and bretonnian together. Some guys with big knight armor and big pieces of clothes with beautiful colors. And taking inspiration from italian renaissance.
Those are some cool Fantasance dudes. Thr guy in the middle looks part gladiator as well, great, now I want a warband of such guys.
And a BABY MAWKRUSHA! I like the "MINIature" part of the hobby, so Snotlings and Nurglings are more exciting to me than Imperial Knights and titans and a Demigryph or only horse-sized Orc monster would be great. Or are they even smaller? Any pics of the personal armies?
Out of all the things Feit has ever posted, I believe this the least. Not because I don't believe AOS is improving, but because there's no way in hell they'd get access to such secret information, and so specific in terms.
It just looks like they were thinking "hmmm, 20% doesn't sound exciting enough, but 50% is obviously too high...so let's split down the middle."
Accolade wrote: Out of all the things Feit has ever posted, I believe this the least. Not because I don't believe AOS is improving, but because there's no way in hell they'd get access to such secret information, and so specific in terms.
It just looks like they were thinking "hmmm, 20% doesn't sound exciting enough, but 50% is obviously too high...so let's split down the middle."
As I said some of the information is incorrect if it came from Lady Atia I would be more inclined to believe it. Since they got the figures for WHFB wrong. I think I may delete my post don't want to start a flame war.
Fimir were my favorite monster from Heroquest. Wouldn't mind seeing them modified a bit to make a glorious return.
I recallthat being said before. The catch being that all their Females are sterile, and so need to..... um..... "mate" with females of other races to reproduce.
Considering the new AoS fluff avoiding mentions of the previous methods of beast men reproduction, and implying a retcon to how new beastmen are made (Combination of people mutating into them and that their are female beastmen for them to mate with). I would not be surprise if this was a change we will also see in the fimir.
Enough with this guy already. I get he is the Magazines Mascot, but he is a generic dwarf. Top it off, all the ltd miniatures of him are not great by contrast to other models of the same time period. If he is a 'free' model that comes with my subscription I would rather toss him in the fire place than sell it. Lets get some more interesting things for them to shine the light on instead of a tired concept.
Pariah-Miniatures wrote: Enough with this guy already. I get he is the Magazines Mascot, but he is a generic dwarf. Top it off, all the ltd miniatures of him are not great by contrast to other models of the same time period. If he is a 'free' model that comes with my subscription I would rather toss him in the fire place than sell it. Lets get some more interesting things for them to shine the light on instead of a tired concept.
What are you talking about? These are all great minis, full of character.
Not the least bit surprising. AoS brought along a lot of Space Marine converts to the Sigmarines, exactly as intended. Not to mention just about every elf army - among the most popular prior to Fantasy's demise - are Order.
Chaos being second also looks about right, what with Warriors of Chaos arguably being the most popular Fantasy army, but given that Fantasy was overall a much more 'balanced' game in terms of what armies were played, not enough to overwhelm Order/Sigmarines.
Greenkins weren't popular enough to hold a faction by themselves, nor were Vampire Co- uhh, Death, especially since GW chased off their Tomb King players.
It would be kinda neat if the White Dwarf could lead my small Dwarf army. I am actually in the market for a good dwarf hero as my army is based on BFSP and the included hero doesn't cut it.
Looks like GW didn't learn from the 40k campaigns.. You need to adjust the wins based on # of games played with a specific faction., so you don't just get the most played faction steamrolling over others.
The thing is, I don't think they expected the 'wyld' success of the Sylvaneth, and Order claiming dominance here helps the narrative (granted it would have been nice to have at least one city tip to another faction, but if you had to pick one to claim all three...).
Kirasu wrote: Looks like GW didn't learn from the 40k campaigns.. You need to adjust the wins based on # of games played with a specific faction. so you don't just get the most played faction steamrolling over others.
No. They don't.
The only thing that does is devalue actual wins from factions with large player bases, and overvalue wins from factions with smaller player bases. Why should I have to play 4 times as many games, AND WIN THEM, as another player solely based on what factions we play, in an open campaign? Sorry your faction didn't win/the campaign didn't end the way you wanted, but don't be a sore loser about it.
This campaign also took into account painting units; death should have had arguably the easiest time with that considering how stupidly fast and simple it is to paint undead.
The infographic above also does not report actual wins/painted units/games played, only locations won by each faction. While we can infer that more people play order armies, we cannot infer how many people either a.) Didn't participate, and b.) Played multiple armies.
The campaign was however an exceedingly clever poll-in-disguise. Gamesworkshop got lots of data about Age of Sigmar players from this experience. You can be sure they will put that into good use.
You could also dedicate your win to any alliance regardless of what you actually played. Though I doubt many people really did that, but it was an option present.
Kirasu wrote: Looks like GW didn't learn from the 40k campaigns.. You need to adjust the wins based on # of games played with a specific faction. so you don't just get the most played faction steamrolling over others.
No. They don't.
The only thing that does is devalue actual wins from factions with large player bases, and overvalue wins from factions with smaller player bases. Why should I have to play 4 times as many games, AND WIN THEM, as another player solely based on what factions we play, in an open campaign? Sorry your faction didn't win/the campaign didn't end the way you wanted, but don't be a sore loser about it.
This campaign also took into account painting units; death should have had arguably the easiest time with that considering how stupidly fast and simple it is to paint undead.
The infographic above also does not report actual wins/painted units/games played, only locations won by each faction. While we can infer that more people play order armies, we cannot infer how many people either a.) Didn't participate, and b.) Played multiple armies.
The campaign was however an exceedingly clever poll-in-disguise. Gamesworkshop got lots of data about Age of Sigmar players from this experience. You can be sure they will put that into good use.
I hope you are aware that Death's core infantry has not been repackaged yet? They are still on square bases and Death players have to wait like a week to get in bases for skeletons and zombies. Let's not also forget from a gaming aspect the general's handbook has "muddled" Death quite a bit considering their magic got indirectly nerfed. Honestly I feel that Death and destruction need "a bit" more love.
I assume more people will pick up Death when we get a proper battle tome with our spell lores. We really need our magic. I assume that's why they GW have not really updated Death yet.
You are aware that bases don't actually matter in Age of Sigmar right?
And death magic is fine. The only people who were actually hit by that 'nerf' were people intending to summon more models than they owned (exaggeration, I know, but not necessarily untrue.)
Death has plenty of nasty stuff, but I insist the actual attribute of the factions less than stellar showing would amount to all the lost and wayward Tomb Kings players. Makes way more sense if you think about it. They were what, 1/2 of the faction unofficially?
Neronoxx wrote: You are aware that bases don't actually matter in Age of Sigmar right?
And death magic is fine. The only people who were actually hit by that 'nerf' were people intending to summon more models than they owned (exaggeration, I know, but not necessarily untrue.)
Death has plenty of nasty stuff, but I insist the actual attribute of the factions less than stellar showing would amount to all the lost and wayward Tomb Kings players. Makes way more sense if you think about it. They were what, 1/2 of the faction unofficially?
Bases don't matter but I am sure many people want to make sure the presentation in their army is consistent since some death models have been converted to circle bases as been said on facebook. I am sure I am not alone in this. I disagree with you on the magic aspect but I don't want this to go off topic.
Kirasu wrote: Looks like GW didn't learn from the 40k campaigns.. You need to adjust the wins based on # of games played with a specific faction. so you don't just get the most played faction steamrolling over others.
No. They don't.
The only thing that does is devalue actual wins from factions with large player bases, and overvalue wins from factions with smaller player bases. Why should I have to play 4 times as many games, AND WIN THEM, as another player solely based on what factions we play, in an open campaign? Sorry your faction didn't win/the campaign didn't end the way you wanted, but don't be a sore loser about it.
This campaign also took into account painting units; death should have had arguably the easiest time with that considering how stupidly fast and simple it is to paint undead.
The infographic above also does not report actual wins/painted units/games played, only locations won by each faction. While we can infer that more people play order armies, we cannot infer how many people either a.) Didn't participate, and b.) Played multiple armies. The campaign was however an exceedingly clever poll-in-disguise. Gamesworkshop got lots of data about Age of Sigmar players from this experience. You can be sure they will put that into good use.
If it's a devalued series of Order victories as opposed to "Order/Sigmarines will always win every campaign forever because they're the most played" then I'll take it. Otherwise, every campaign will just become a glorified popularity contest for the most played faction, which will always be Space Marines/Stormcast Eternals.
I mean look back at Medusa V. That went something like, Space Marines >>> Non-Space Marine Imperials >>>>>>; Eldar > Everybody else. What do you know, that was exactly the order of popularity of the factions at the same. The Disorder forces actually pulling their finger out and coordinating actual victories in the Eye of Terror took GW by surprise to the point they basically retconned the whole thing, and that was largely driven by the 3.5 CSM 'dex being so popular due to its overpowered nature, and the Space Marines still pulled ahead.
I play an Order army and I'M bitter about the results, because myself and I think most people knew that this is exactly what would happen. I'd rather have to play and win four games and actually feel like the victory for the faction was hard fought globally than know it's a guaranteed win from the start because I'm the side with the Not-Space Marine majority.
Arbitrator wrote: Otherwise, every campaign will just become a glorified popularity contest for the most played faction, which will always be Space Marines/Stormcast Eternals.
And that's perfectly fine if the premise of the campaign is a simple square off. You really don't want people that make up the majority of your customers feel cheated out of their wins, superficial as they are.
What GW could do is to give every faction an objective that they can work towards based purely on their own performance. Say, if Chaos wins 50% of their games during the campaign, they gain control of a location that isn't the main point of contention or summon a powerful demon.
Arbitrator wrote: Otherwise, every campaign will just become a glorified popularity contest for the most played faction, which will always be Space Marines/Stormcast Eternals.
And that's perfectly fine if the premise of the campaign is a simple square off. You really don't want people that make up the majority of your customers feel cheated out of their wins, superficial as they are.
Yeah, because what the hobby needs is even more Space Marine bias and even less non-Imperial players.
Edit: And before somebody jumps on me with "b-b-but this is a AoS thread!", my point here still stands for Stormcasts, it's just the two are so interchangeable at this point I refer to one the same as the other.
I know that a big chunk of the fandom would just prefer if those annoying non-loyalist Space Marine 'whiners' would go away so they can play Horus Heresy 40k and Age of Stormcasts, but it would actually be refreshing to see the fiction not tell us one thing, but then show us the other. I've said this another thread very recently, but for 'grimdark' settings it always feels really weird that both in the Age of Sigmar and 40k, Chaos is apparently this all-malevolent force that is one arm stretch away from devouring the galaxy, but every other piece of fiction, campaign and even models just describes how those amazing superhuman badarses (whether Marine or Stormcast) swoop in and crush the enemy.
His Master's Voice wrote: What GW could do, is to give every faction an objective that they can work to based purely on their own performance. Say, if Chaos wins 50% of their games during the campaign, they gain control of a location that isn't the main point of contention or summon a powerful demon.
Not a terrible idea, I must admit. The problem is that the 'main point of contention' is still always going to fall into the loyalist superhumans no matter what, which turns the whole thing into glorified window dressing instead of "YOU CAN TOTALLY CHANGE THE FICTION GUYS!".
As has been said by others, I'd be very interested in seeing the break down of victories with the numbers of players per faction.
Arbitrator wrote: Otherwise, every campaign will just become a glorified popularity contest for the most played faction, which will always be Space Marines/Stormcast Eternals.
And that's perfectly fine if the premise of the campaign is a simple square off. You really don't want people that make up the majority of your customers feel cheated out of their wins, superficial as they are.
What GW could do is to give every faction an objective that they can work towards based purely on their own performance. Say, if Chaos wins 50% of their games during the campaign, they gain control of a location that isn't the main point of contention or summon a powerful demon.
So, ask them. You might find GW surprisingly open these days.
Arbitrator wrote: Otherwise, every campaign will just become a glorified popularity contest for the most played faction, which will always be Space Marines/Stormcast Eternals.
And that's perfectly fine if the premise of the campaign is a simple square off. You really don't want people that make up the majority of your customers feel cheated out of their wins, superficial as they are.
What GW could do is to give every faction an objective that they can work towards based purely on their own performance. Say, if Chaos wins 50% of their games during the campaign, they gain control of a location that isn't the main point of contention or summon a powerful demon.
You know it would not surprise me if GW does something like this when they write up the fluff for the season of war. They pretty much state that after the war chaos has pretty much heavily corrupted the surronding lands and nagash's forces caused piles of dead and destruction wrecked a lot of stuff. Yeah the cities are safe but at what cost? The greywater they pretty much destroyed majority of the surrounding land to stave off the invaders, to the everqueen's horror.
Neronoxx wrote: The only thing that does is devalue actual wins from factions with large player bases, and overvalue wins from factions with smaller player bases. Why should I have to play 4 times as many games, AND WIN THEM, as another player solely based on what factions we play, in an open campaign? Sorry your faction didn't win/the campaign didn't end the way you wanted, but don't be a sore loser about it.
Then you are deciding results in advance basically.
This campaign also took into account painting units; death should have had arguably the easiest time with that considering how stupidly fast and simple it is to paint undead.
Assuming you go for easy route. Good looking bone is actually hard to paint(what it being similar to white in shade and white being nuts to paint)
And of course there's this great equalizer "money". Doesn't really matter what faction I would be painting. Same amount of units would be result anyway. Not everybody can afford to buy more than they can paint. 4 weeks? That's 75£ or so worth of models at most. Easy to paint isn't much help there...
Campaign aside, but somewhat connected: I wonder about the future of AoS. With Sylvaneth amd Ironjawz being at least some level of success compared to the previous releases it won't get nuked for a return to the Warhammer world (hmpf).
What is the plan here? The many mini factios can be realeased and generate sales for Battletomes and minis, both repacks and kits. We know that sales for new kits are heavily frontloaded while blood can be squeezed from the old kits stone in such a release. Good. But a huge problem with the sell on release has always been that you have to pump out new stuff while the rest of the line is mostly wasted shelf space. If Fantasy suffered from people not buying Brets and back in the day Woodies because of neglect and no upcoming releases planned, how will dozens of mini factions fare once released? It seems people mostly reject the idea of quasi-Unbound Alliances and won't buy new dwarves for their Empire knights army as well as a few more HElf dragon riders for a broken combo, err, for fun no matter what store clerks have to sell this week. I bet new Fyreslayer releases are a looong way off, though. Swifthawk agents? Lol.
So how will it go? Maybe they will finally release add-ons for different mini factions once they're all released that change the way old units synergize with the new model or each other like dozens of competitors do rather succesfully each month. They can do that now with rules in the boxes. Put factions back in people's mind with different SC boxes? Or will they convince themselves that new formations will keep factions fresh? Will everything go to pasture as Direct Only after a year or so?
Binabik15 wrote: Campaign aside, but somewhat connected: I wonder about the future of AoS. With Sylvaneth amd Ironjawz being at least some level of success compared to the previous releases it won't get nuked for a return to the Warhammer world (hmpf).
What is the plan here? The many mini factios can be realeased and generate sales for Battletomes and minis, both repacks and kits. We know that sales for new kits are heavily frontloaded while blood can be squeezed from the old kits stone in such a release. Good. But a huge problem with the sell on release has always been that you have to pump out new stuff while the rest of the line is mostly wasted shelf space. If Fantasy suffered from people not buying Brets and back in the day Woodies because of neglect and no upcoming releases planned, how will dozens of mini factions fare once released? It seems people mostly reject the idea of quasi-Unbound Alliances and won't buy new dwarves for their Empire knights army as well as a few more HElf dragon riders for a broken combo, err, for fun no matter what store clerks have to sell this week. I bet new Fyreslayer releases are a looong way off, though. Swifthawk agents? Lol.
So how will it go? Maybe they will finally release add-ons for different mini factions once they're all released that change the way old units synergize with the new model or each other like dozens of competitors do rather succesfully each month. They can do that now with rules in the boxes. Put factions back in people's mind with different SC boxes? Or will they convince themselves that new formations will keep factions fresh? Will everything go to pasture as Direct Only after a year or so?
What I assume will happen is that many of the smaller sub factions will be merged into a single book it's already happened with flesh eater courts. Plus in the new battletomes GW are messing around with "mixed" battelions that have units from other armies while keeping the benefits your army get's from the battletome.
Campaign books will be another way to keep old factions relevant. The godbeasts book featured minotaurs and spiderclans heavily with new battalions. So it might be a long time before we see new fyreslayer minis but we have already seen new rules.
The all gates book, for example has new battalions for stormcast, skaven, nurgle deamons, Slyvaneth, fyreslayers slaves to darkness and ironjawz. If they release one of those books a quarter they can update more than 20 factions a year.
Grombrindal – The White Dwarf himself, namesake of the Ultimate Warhammer Magazine – comes to the Mortal Realms! Some say Grombrindal is the living incarnation of Snorri Longbeard himself; others that he was betrothed to the goddess Valaya. None truly know the origins of this most ancient and venerable of the Duardin race, but you can get your hands on him right now.
Grombrindal, The White Dwarf presents the Dispossessed Unforged miniature in exclusive Grombrindal packaging, available in this format for a limited time only. Full rules for using Grombrindal, The White Dwarf in both Warhammer Age of Sigmar and Warhammer Quest Silver Tower can be found exclusively in September’s issue of White Dwarf!
OK, this one I just can't do. I'm an avid dwarf collector and player but my second one of this model shall become a contest prize now. Luckily my Grombindal painted mini is in the storage locker in WI. Be glad to use that one next month.
If Kirby were still in charge and GW were to have done this, they would have charged half again as much as the current price for having a 'new' Grombrindal
Perhaps his horrible regret which forced him to become a slayer is that he allowed this figure to be made.
What an odd thing to do, no other character in warhammer fantasy has had as many models made of them as the white dwarf, but, I guess this was one too many.
Chikout wrote: Gw has been on a roll with their good decisions lately. This breaks the trend.
Yeah this seems so strange to me who decided to do this? I am sure this is just GW trolling and we will see the real one in the new white dwarf I hope......
Well, that is terribly disappointing. The lack of the iconic three braids in the beard and the mustache really bothers me. Even aside from it being a cynical repackage.
Eh, I really like the model (minus beard-axes) and would've been happy to get it as a gift for subscribers instead of arguing that that's not really Grombrindal. I won't buy it at full clampack pricing just because/to have another unpainted "white dwarf" stashed away somewhere. If I was willing to spend that much money on a plastic dwarf I would've bought him already
I might have to paint a mostly white bearded slayer one day, though.
Maybe THIS is GW's strategy for "new" releases. Get ready for Father Christmas the Orc on Rednose the Maw Krusha
PS: Bring back the Necrosphinx kit as a Caturday limited edition. I never bought one, sadly.
Chikout wrote: Gw has been on a roll with their good decisions lately. This breaks the trend.
Yeah this seems so strange to me who decided to do this? I am sure this is just GW trolling and we will see the real one in the new white dwarf I hope......
(Shrugs) It was only a matter off time before the company made a mis-step, I'm just happy it was a lazy reskin rather than my concerns of a barrier added to the entry barrier or another faction discontinuation. This is pretty minor in comparison.
That said, I'm pretty interested in what this means on a bigger scale of things. How did he find his way to the mortal realms? Does his future ST rules mean he will canonically explore it and will feature in his lore? Will this herald a future focus on Duardin and how they'll be introduced? Does his Unforged status mean he will become "Forged" when the Duardin are introduced proper?
unmercifulconker wrote: So now hes kinda like Chuck Norris in Expendables 3, just comes in, wrecks then leaves. Sweet.
Haha, wasn't that his lore in the Old World as well?
if TK are not egyptianesque then they are hardly tomb kings.. i guess they could go barrow king route... but again its not exactly the same.. i guess they could go celtic...
Lantic where would i find this info? same for Azyrhiem ?
Sorry for taking forever to get back to you, I'm on a break from the forums for a bit.
Not sure how TK would be reintroduced, could go for a mixture of ancient themes or do another take on them entirely like skeletons in Necron-like armor with Egyptian motifs. (Sphinx helmets and the like)
Lantic is a small lore mention in the background with it being the last empire to fall to Archaon before the Order races withdrew to Sigmar's realm and gets mentioned again in the Flesh-Eater court Battletome.
The Azyrheim Lancehost is talked about in the Grand Order alliance book. A army of of human and aelf knights that rode out when Azyrheim reopened to retake the realms and made such impressive victories that Sigmar aided the force with his Stormcast Extremis.
Very nice rules! Thanks, OrlandotheTechnicoloured.
The "As if from nowhere" is the only thing that's both great and worrying to me as too good.
Interesting to see the warscroll acknowledges his Unforged status and appearance. I'm hoping we'll get a story about why he changed and why he lost his unique weapons.
Oh, it'd be awesome if he would be our viewpoint into exploring the shadow realm and looking for his old friend.
I'm going to guess 220pts, personally, but it should be noted that he is, at the moment, the best "popper" unit in the entire game. He can do the job of Chameleon Skinks in terms of disruption, can pop 3" away from a unit, and is an even more extreme hero/monster hunter.
nudibranch wrote: Danm, his rules are powerful. Gonna guess that if he gets a points value for matched play, it's gonna be in the region of 200-300pts.
Given the nature of the model, I don't expect him to actually get points. He is a narrative character, after all.
nudibranch wrote: Danm, his rules are powerful. Gonna guess that if he gets a points value for matched play, it's gonna be in the region of 200-300pts.
Given the nature of the model, I don't expect him to actually get points. He is a narrative character, after all.
I agree. I don't see them going back later to give him points. If he was going to have them then it would have made more sense for them to have been on his Warscroll.
New entry to the Damaz Kron for not giving uniqe mini to company magazine name giver. At Bugmans Brewery people are really pissed.
Also its really dumb that he has 2 axes, when in the previous fluff, he had only 1. So in the Dwarf Tavern we collectivly decided that this mini is an impostor, thus new entry to the Damaz kron and put a bounty on the head of this induvidual.
Its funny also that they call him the White Dwarf when he leads the Duardins, the White Dwarf only aids dwarfs. This is just gets confusing the more they go into to it.
nudibranch wrote: Danm, his rules are powerful. Gonna guess that if he gets a points value for matched play, it's gonna be in the region of 200-300pts.
Given the nature of the model, I don't expect him to actually get points. He is a narrative character, after all.
I agree. I don't see them going back later to give him points. If he was going to have them then it would have made more sense for them to have been on his Warscroll.
I don't think they're ever going to add points to the warscrolls. GW doesn't seem to want Matched Play to be labeled as the "official" way to play, just one of the ways to play. We'll see when future factions are released, but I fully expect to only see points in the back of the battletomes.
nudibranch wrote: Danm, his rules are powerful. Gonna guess that if he gets a points value for matched play, it's gonna be in the region of 200-300pts.
Given the nature of the model, I don't expect him to actually get points. He is a narrative character, after all.
I agree. I don't see them going back later to give him points. If he was going to have them then it would have made more sense for them to have been on his Warscroll.
I don't think they're ever going to add points to the warscrolls. GW doesn't seem to want Matched Play to be labeled as the "official" way to play, just one of the ways to play. We'll see when future factions are released, but I fully expect to only see points in the back of the battletomes.
We'll have to wait and see until we get a release that's not in the General's Handbook to see what they do.
Also its really dumb that he has 2 axes, when in the previous fluff, he had only 1.
Right, previous fluff. Now it's been over a thousand years and he seems to taken up the title of the unforged. Until they put forth more information we don't what happened to him to cause him to lose his old equipment and take up this new path.
It was said in jest on the Brewery but the idea that he's become a slayer due to not saving the old world and Dwarf race is an interesting idea...
thus new entry to the Damaz kron and put a bounty on the head of this induvidual.
Good thing he's in the AoS setting then. No grudge book.
Its funny also that they call him the White Dwarf when he leads the Duardins, the White Dwarf only aids dwarfs. This is just gets confusing the more they go into to it.
He's keeping his title from the old world, is that really surprising with stubborn traditionalists like the dwarfs? If you went to the future and your country was vastly changed with a new name I imagine you'd keep your old country allegiance instead of immediately switching over.
As for matched play, I could see him being narrative only but we'll have to wait and see. (Maybe get Auticus to work his magic if points don't appear in the future)
Accolade wrote: Well sure, but if it was from Atia it would believable!
EDIT: no worries about it, I'm just kidding around. Really, I think people react poorly to stuff from Feit mostly because it's such utter click bait.
That being said, hope AOS is making it in the positive direction.
Obviously anecdotal evidence, but locally AoS has taken over. There seems to be very little 40K comparatively. The GHB really set the local scene alight.
Also its really dumb that he has 2 axes, when in the previous fluff, he had only 1.
Right, previous fluff. Now it's been over a thousand years and he seems to taken up the title of the unforged. Until they put forth more information we don't what happened to him to cause him to lose his old equipment and take up this new path.
It was said in jest on the Brewery but the idea that he's become a slayer due to not saving the old world and Dwarf race is an interesting idea...
Of course real reason he has 2 axes is...The slayer model has 2 axes because that's how generally slayers were depicted!
RoboDragon wrote: It's quiet... I sense something is coming soon... Dwarves or Tzeentch
I would prefer Gutbusters. My hope is they follow the trend they did with Ironjaws with the Savage Orruks following up after. I NEED MOAR OGORS!
Even though I don't play them, I hope the next Battletome is Chaos or Death. As far as "new style" Battletomes go with abilities and spells, we already have one Order and one Destruction.
Probably should be Death. The only Battletome they even have outside of Grand Alliance is Flesh Eaters. Pity that none of the other subfactions really have enough to be a full Battletome on their own, except maybe Deathlords which would be about the same size as Everchosen.
According to Hastings, who reappeared on the comments section of War of Sigmar, there should be a release of new skaven and the LoC and a new starter set, although he does not know the timeframe.
"Some great boxed games" sounds good. Great to know that AoS will be getting some boxes too. Seems that Hastings does not have much info on AoS though and he has claimed many times he is not interested and therefore has less info (although seems a lot more sympathetic now). Good news on the long run, but we are back to our shortage of info in the short run!
I wonder what new Skaven will bring. Likely to just be rebases/rereleases, but maybe we'll get lucky and they'll flesh out another clan like they did for Pestilins.
I'm not expecting much for a while, though. AoS has had a lot of time in the sun, they're clearly focusing on 40k for a while now.
Updated Rat Ogres, maybe some smaller sized Abominations to run in units, rat cavalry, more giant rats... there's a lot that can be done with Moulder and put to use across the various clans.
Some cool looking Eshin stuff would always be appreciated too.
RoboDragon wrote: It's quiet... I sense something is coming soon... Dwarves or Tzeentch
After a run of (to me at least) exciting releases (Flesh-eater Court, Sylvantith, and Beastclaw Raiders) it does seem kind of quiet on the AoS front. After the (again IMO) fumbled Fyreslayer release I'm not too exited about an upcoming Duardin release but I could get exited about a Tzeentch release if it was built around some new Silver Tower style miniatures, and not just a reboxing of old WFB miniatures.
I'm really craving some Sigmar news. I think the string of releases the past few months has got me craving stuff badly. Now I know how the 40k players felt...
Problem for me is none of the releases were really my thing, Tzeentch Arcanites, Duardin or a Skeleton release would have me sold.
I would imagine Battletome: Tzeentch Arcanites would accompany a release of several new boxes. If the pattern holds, some kind of big beastie, a couple of new characters (hopefully including a wizard that doesn't suck or require a special piece of scenery), and some new regiment boxes, which would very likely be dual-kit.
Manfred von Drakken wrote: I would imagine Battletome: Tzeentch Arcanites would accompany a release of several new boxes. If the pattern holds, some kind of big beastie, a couple of new characters (hopefully including a wizard that doesn't suck or require a special piece of scenery), and some new regiment boxes, which would very likely be dual-kit.
You can basically rest assured that we'll see:
Ogroid Thaumaturge
Gaunt Summoner on foot
Kairic Acolytes boxed set
Kanluwen wrote: You can basically rest assured that we'll see:
Ogroid Thaumaturge
Gaunt Summoner on foot
Kairic Acolytes boxed set
I would love to see any of those, but considering that good, multi-piece kits of the Deff Koptas and Chaos Cultists have yet to appear, I have a feeling like they would rather sell those in a $150 box to anyone interested.
Kanluwen wrote: You can basically rest assured that we'll see:
Ogroid Thaumaturge
Gaunt Summoner on foot
Kairic Acolytes boxed set
I would love to see any of those, but considering that good, multi-piece kits of the Deff Koptas and Chaos Cultists have yet to appear, I have a feeling like they would rather sell those in a $150 box to anyone interested.
We've also gotten general releases of:
Broodlord from Deathstorm
Terminator Captain from Deathstorm
All four of the Assassins from Execution Force
It's anyone's guess really, but the stuff in Silver Tower barring the Kairic acolytes and Tzaangors(the other thing I think we'll see a multi-part box of) is laid out in such a way that it can all be released individually. Each character was their own sprue.
Kanluwen wrote: You can basically rest assured that we'll see:
Ogroid Thaumaturge
Gaunt Summoner on foot
Kairic Acolytes boxed set
I would love to see any of those, but considering that good, multi-piece kits of the Deff Koptas and Chaos Cultists have yet to appear, I have a feeling like they would rather sell those in a $150 box to anyone interested.
Considering they refused to give points to the units so that people wouldn't need to buy multiple sets of silver tower for them, I think they might have something planned for the Acolytes at least.
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My local GW store manager said that the Beastclaw Raider book is a sell-through item. Seems kind of odd since it just came out. Think they would cancel a print run for typos? Maybe copyrighting? I couldn't imagine them pulling a line so soon after release.
Davor wrote: What do you mean by "sell-through"? I don't understand.
A sell-through item is an item that will not be replaced in its current medium. For instance, most of the old Warhammer models are "sell-through" items. Note: it is also marked as "out-of-stock" online.
Davor wrote: What do you mean by "sell-through"? I don't understand.
A sell-through item is an item that will not be replaced in its current medium. For instance, most of the old Warhammer models are "sell-through" items. Note: it is also marked as "out-of-stock" online.
It is marked as 'Temporarily Out of Stock'. GW items go 'Temporarily Out of Stock' all of the time and return to the online store. Its when it is marked as 'Sold Out' (e.g., the Orc Warboss on Wyvern) that the item is likely gone for good.
Davor wrote: What do you mean by "sell-through"? I don't understand.
A sell-through item is an item that will not be replaced in its current medium. For instance, most of the old Warhammer models are "sell-through" items. Note: it is also marked as "out-of-stock" online.
It is marked as 'Temporarily Out of Stock'. GW items go 'Temporarily Out of Stock' all of the time and return to the online store. Its when it is marked as 'Sold Out' (e.g., the Orc Warboss on Wyvern) that the item is likely gone for good.
Understood, but the manager says that the word came down from on-high that it is sell-through, so she won't be able to order them once she is sold out. *shrug* Just didn't know what people thought.
Another possibility is that they wanted to sell through the initial books so that they could go back and add Allegiance, Factions, new spells and magic items like they have done with the newer books.
Smellingsalts wrote:Another possibility is that they wanted to sell through the initial books so that they could go back and add Allegiance, Factions, new spells and magic items like they have done with the newer books.
Beastclaw already has those. They're extremely good.
ShaneTB wrote:Is it hardback? If so, they'll retire that and release a soft cover afterwards. That has happened before.
Manfred von Drakken wrote: I would imagine Battletome: Tzeentch Arcanites would accompany a release of several new boxes. If the pattern holds, some kind of big beastie, a couple of new characters (hopefully including a wizard that doesn't suck or require a special piece of scenery), and some new regiment boxes, which would very likely be dual-kit.
if the rumors hold, then I wouldn't be surprised if the big beastie turns out to be a lord of change with multiple builds, like the bloodthirster
Manfred von Drakken wrote: I would imagine Battletome: Tzeentch Arcanites would accompany a release of several new boxes. If the pattern holds, some kind of big beastie, a couple of new characters (hopefully including a wizard that doesn't suck or require a special piece of scenery), and some new regiment boxes, which would very likely be dual-kit.
if the rumors hold, then I wouldn't be surprised if the big beastie turns out to be a lord of change with multiple builds, like the bloodthirster
The big beastie for Tzeentch Arcanites likely wouldn't be a Lord of Change, given that the Arcanites are the mortal forces of Tzeentch. After all, none of the Bloodthirsters are included as part of the Khorne Bloodbound.
This isn't to say they wouldn't release the new Lord of Change at the same time, but I would expect some kind of beastie to go alongside it.
It has now been three months since the last new AOS model came out. For the future we have bloodbowl, burning of prospero, Fenris part 2 and Magnus all reliably rumoured but not a sniff of anything for AOS. Discount bundles and silver tower cards are very welcome, but I need my new model fix.
I'm guessing the next release will be Tzeentch Arcanites including a new Lord of Change and Silver Tower units in boxes, to make an all-out Tzeentch fest with the Prospero stuff. Alternatively the Silver Tower expansion.
In a way Silver Tower is AoS related. Much like DWO was for 40k. I would be interested in a ST expansion as that would tell us the direction GW is heading with the AoS range. I was hoping for a new SC Kit for fyreslayers as well as a proper steampunk release for Duradin - but we shall see. I can only assume then Tzn will get a proper release along with chaos prospero maybe? Dual release for AoS and 40k?
We've gotten a ton of Khorne and a Tzeentch themed box game (WHQ:ST). Nurgle gets a lot of love but no boxed sets, and Slaanesh gets no love (which is its own flavor of irony). Nurgle boxed game and Slaanesh boxed game would both be appreciated!
Any idea what the next couple of faction releases are likely to be? I'm thinking of diving in, but would like to know what's on the horizon so I don't buy in only to get a heap of new shinies dropped on the faction I pick
Castiel wrote: Any idea what the next couple of faction releases are likely to be? I'm thinking of diving in, but would like to know what's on the horizon so I don't buy in only to get a heap of new shinies dropped on the faction I pick
Current Rumors are Tzeentch of some sort (probably Daemons, possibly both Daemon + Mortals) and Steampunk Dwarves. Nothing known beyond that.
Uriels_Flame wrote: In a way Silver Tower is AoS related. Much like DWO was for 40k. I would be interested in a ST expansion as that would tell us the direction GW is heading with the AoS range. I was hoping for a new SC Kit for fyreslayers as well as a proper steampunk release for Duradin - but we shall see. I can only assume then Tzn will get a proper release along with chaos prospero maybe? Dual release for AoS and 40k?
Warhammer Quest is definitely Age of Sigmar related.
What I predict, and what would be a smart move on GWs part, is that any new WQ box sets that come out (besides character packs) would act as stand-alone games...
Bear with me here.
Lets say they do an undead themed one next. They release a box game that has several new heroes (lets say about 4), then they have a bunch of baddies that fit the theme of the 'dungeon', and then floor tiles and cards to fit the theme as well.
You get your main bad guy...lets say a Necromancer Lord or some such, a big baddie (undead ogre, giant skeleton, some type of Frankenstein-looking golem), your main themed bad dudes (Armored skeletons, fodder skeletons, zombies, ghouls, etc), and finally a few random baddies (goblins, spiders, whatever).
Your tiles are all Necormancer dungeon/tomb themed.
Then the monster cards would have all the same look and feel, so you can mix them in with other WQ boxes...granted I don't own the game yet, so I'm not sure how this would work if the backs of the cards are all tzeentch themed art...
See, I don't really have a problem with the Tzeentch themed Warhammer Quest game....the issue I have is making that the base for all other expansions.
If GW didn't plan something like this from the beginning, I think it is a missed opportunity... and I have to think there wont be any substantial expansions for it in the future.
Castiel wrote: Any idea what the next couple of faction releases are likely to be? I'm thinking of diving in, but would like to know what's on the horizon so I don't buy in only to get a heap of new shinies dropped on the faction I pick
Current Rumors are Tzeentch of some sort (probably Daemons, possibly both Daemon + Mortals) and Steampunk Dwarves. Nothing known beyond that.
Thanks! Dwarves are one of the factions I'd be interested in, so might hold on until I see what direction they're going in.
I have yet to see a reliable source mentioning a Steamhead Duardin release. There has been nothing in the last 6 months and not much before. A lot of chinese whisper-like 'rumors' from Natfka though, starting as Squats for 40k, then for AoS, then nothing happened. I consider the Steamhead rumors wrong if no one more reliable chimes in with real info...
I hope future WHQ are a bit smaller and cheaper- maybe 4 heroes, half the number of enemies, a couple less tiles etc, sold for £50 or so would attract more buyers i reckon
The ONLY reliable rumour was Sad Panda mentioning that more Tzeentch stuff is coming. Hastings popped up to say some stuff about 40k but admitted that he didn't know anything about AoS. Atia had not mentioned a thing.
What is interesting was that the Sylvaneth was not rumoured at all until the art tipped up at the open day.
Gw is, unfortunately, doing a pretty good job of keeping their Aos plans under wraps.
I reckon the dwarfs sorry duardan need a starter box for fyreslayers, and to that need a new model like a large creature or artillery piece.
Also maybe see more steampunk style dwarfs?
Wonder if they have any more plans before Xmas for age of sigmar considering Prospero is coming
Marxist artist wrote: I reckon the dwarfs sorry duardan need a starter box for fyreslayers, and to that need a new model like a large creature or artillery piece.
Also maybe see more steampunk style dwarfs?
Wonder if they have any more plans before Xmas for age of sigmar considering Prospero is coming
Tradtionally Dec is usely stuff like hobby and army bundles for the holiday gift giving season.
My bet is Tzeentch and Duardin stuff with the Duardin getting a dispossessed battletome and maybe a small leak of steampunk models.
Reasoning: -Tzeentch holds the realm of metal in an "iron" grip. Duardin will likely be the new Sylvaneth of rebelling against daemons.
-Duardin are rebels and realm belongs to daemons and traitors, no way to properly maintain machinery for steampunk action. Reliance on dispossessed forces and fighting method.
-Forces of Order are too powerful and other alliances need buffing up first before giving Order new models.
We more or less know Tzeentch is coming, but I'm still not sure about any Duardin stuff. I just haven't seen anything but speculation with no actual source for a credible rumor.
It is highly likely that the next major release will be Tzeentch. It follows the pattern of breaking out the components of the boxed game established by overkill, BAC and the assassins game. It is just a matter of when.
It looks like the Horus game will be coming after gsc. After that would seem like a good time to go back to Aos, with the beginning of the next campaign. That would leave Fenris part 2 to finish the year with Magnus the equivalent of last years Archaon. If we see anything else this year it will probably be the next stormcast subfaction. Of course I would love to see a new warhammer quest expansion but I think that was just wishlisting.
The steamhead Duaridin are a real aos faction that have been mentioned in passing several times in the books but I would not expect to see them so soon after the fyreslayers when there are so many other factions waiting for their time in the sun.
YAWN. Just like 40K, getting tired of Stormcasts just like I am getting tired of Space Marines. Already looks like a Stormcast Eternals from a previous release. I really can't get excited for this. Let me guess, he will be in gold.
Only thing to speculate is mask or no mask. If mask going to even be more boring. At least with no mask might add some character to the mini.
YAWN. Just like 40K, getting tired of Stormcasts just like I am getting tired of Space Marines. Already looks like a Stormcast Eternals from a previous release. I really can't get excited for this. Let me guess, he will be in gold.
Only thing to speculate is mask or no mask. If mask going to even be more boring. At least with no mask might add some character to the mini.
Yep. I get that they are the "original" faction in AOS, but come on. They don't need to go the Space Marine route any further than they already have. Do they really need yet another character?
Besides, unless it has points it might as well not exist.
Guys it could be worse; it could be a Khorne Bloodbound character! But seriously, I'm happy with anything to Google after so long without an AoS model release.
NinthMusketeer wrote:Guys it could be worse; it could be a Khorne Bloodbound character! But seriously, I'm happy with anything to Google after so long without an AoS model release.
Instead of all this long waits, they should just do beginning two weeks of month is 40K release, last two weeks of the month AoS release or vice versa. This way everyone gets what they want in their gaming circle and not having months to wait.
Also, I'm getting a good laugh with the Facebook comments. They are almost identical to the Total War ones, "where's the love for the other armies", "give us a new army already!", "did you guys forget this game existed?".
The only difference is that the TW facebook gets about ten "where's Wood elves?!" posts between complaints.
Those guys are amazing with the hundreds of different Stormcast armies they constantly post here, Reddit, Facebook and a variety of hobby forums. When do they find time to sleep?
Anyway, I wonder what's the occasion for this release. Could it be a nod towards that rumored focus on a Death expansion for Silver Tower?
The headpiece looks similar to the knight questor's. Maybe a Relic questor version to journey through death's domain?
Chikout wrote: The ONLY reliable rumour was Sad Panda mentioning that more Tzeentch stuff is coming. Hastings popped up to say some stuff about 40k but admitted that he didn't know anything about AoS. Atia had not mentioned a thing.
What is interesting was that the Sylvaneth was not rumoured at all until the art tipped up at the open day.
Gw is, unfortunately, doing a pretty good job of keeping their Aos plans under wraps.
Actually
Age of Sigmar Rumors - May 2016
Hello everyone !!
We got this by a friendly raven :
summer campaign
-taking place in realm of life TRUE
-your battle results will be logged at a GW Web Station (the computer you order from when at a GW Store) to prevent skewing results like Eye of Terror did TRUE
-it will shape the setting when they write up future campaign books
future models
-in the general's handbook, there looks to be new sylvaneth models shown. i would take this with a grain of salt, as they could be very well done conversions, but from what i heard, there are models of aelfs whose limbs are turning into branches and plants, and new updated treemen (not treelords, the treemen who are bigger than branchwraiths but smaller than treelords)
-concept art shown of allariel riding what looks to be a giant rhino beetle? sounds interesting, possible future model? only time will tell
Those guys are amazing with the hundreds of different Stormcast armies they constantly post here, Reddit, Facebook and a variety of hobby forums. When do they find time to sleep?
If you were to go by Mongoose Matt's and Pictors Studio's relentless AoS proselytization on every conceivable webspace, that might actually be true. They apparently don't ever sleep, instead spending every waking minute painting, playing, and writing about AoS.
That out of the way, I'm so looking forward to another iteration of an SE character that nobody plays in multiples. We got two scultps for the standard bearer and the musician, why not another for the chaplain? At four times the price, of course.
Oops forgot about that. Sorry Atia. Got anything new for us? As an Aos fan I feel like the designated driver at a party where all the 30k and 40k folks are getting plastered.
RazorEdge wrote: They sould finally release humans ( "real" ones)!
This. This so hard. I don't care at ALL about super human glory boys, and knife eared elfs. I want that good old human blood, sweat, and determination of human endurance to protect home and hearth. It's the reason I loved and collected the empire in WHFB, and the lack of humans fighting ageist the impossible odds in AOS has me heart broken.
RazorEdge wrote: They sould finally release humans ( "real" ones)!
This. This so hard. I don't care at ALL about super human glory boys, and knife eared elfs. I want that good old human blood, sweat, and determination of human endurance to protect home and hearth. It's the reason I loved and collected the empire in WHFB, and the lack of humans fighting ageist the impossible odds in AOS has me heart broken.
I don't know if you can place any stock in their facebook comments but I asked them about seeing more of the devoted of sigmar after the seasons of war and they gave me we will be seeing more of them soonTM. Considering we got a new warrior priest from sliver tower I suspect GW are planning something for them and he can use gryph hounds. Still don't expect it to come any time soon I think.
They are going with the "high" fantasy theme and I kinda feel devoted fits the bill along with still being normal humans so to speak.
Are people really expecting GW to give you gritty "ordinary men" factions? Does that fit with the tone of AoS?
I think it far more likely they'll end up painting them either as brave but ultimately totally helpless and in need of saving by the Mighty Sigmarines, or brave and victorious only because they were so desperate to impress Sigmar in the hope he'll elevate them to become Sigmarines themselves.
Yodhrin wrote: Are people really expecting GW to give you gritty "ordinary men" factions? Does that fit with the tone of AoS?
I think it far more likely they'll end up painting them either as brave but ultimately totally helpless and in need of saving by the Mighty Sigmarines, or brave and victorious only because they were so desperate to impress Sigmar in the hope he'll elevate them to become Sigmarines themselves.
Considering how they wrote the fluff for bonsplitterz compared to ironjaw's and the general fluff of devoted of sigmar and certain events in a black library novel and campaign book where normal humans end up saving the stormcasts I will have to disagree with you. Plus in silver tower it was the new warrior priest that got everyone to work together to survive well all of them die in the end but I digress.
You can still have humans and fit them into high fantasy I think the devoted of sigmar show that quite well. Hell even stormcast use flagellants they are scary in a horde.
As a Stormcast player, we don't need another hero. We already have more heroes than actual army choices.
Though, that said, if it's a Stormcast Wizard, I probably end up buying it. I'd like to have some magic in the list while keeping my Stormcast allegiance.
Requizen wrote: As a Stormcast player, we don't need another hero. We already have more heroes than actual army choices.
That's going to end up being the case with AoS, it seems. Fyreslayers and a few others are in a similar position.
Realistically, Stormcast as a faction suffer from a big issue in the form of everything being based off the Liberators or Paladins. The Judicators were a missed opportunity for lighter armored Stormcast Eternals or 'local' guerillas from within the Realms to use a preferred example I use when discussing why I'm not a big fan of the Stormcast.
Though, that said, if it's a Stormcast Wizard, I probably end up buying it. I'd like to have some magic in the list while keeping my Stormcast allegiance.
I would be really surprised if it's a Stormcast Wizard. That really looks like it is a Lord Relictor with different weapons to the standard one from the AoS.
Groan. I wish they'd stop shoving these stupid gold down our throats.
It is their flagship line a la Space Marines. Expect it to be the focus forever.
It isn't just a flagship line, it's a new line. There was nothing to be folded into the army or rebadged under the Stormcast Eternals nametag.
So yeah. They're getting a lot of releases here and there. The last Stormcast Eternal release was an exclusive from WHW in the form of the unhelmed Knight-Questor.
Stormcast really don't need mystic shield access within allegiance. Ditto on the overabundance of heroes, especially support-ability heroes (which is all of them minus lord-celestants and venator).
Warhams-77 wrote:Via Nero in the Brueckenkopf-online.de comments
Who would have thought?
Might have to eat some crow, not bad. Then agin with GW and Stormcasts out the ying yang what else are we suppose to expect? Hopefully this is new things to come and all Stormcasts every other time will stop now.
Yodhrin wrote: Are people really expecting GW to give you gritty "ordinary men" factions? Does that fit with the tone of AoS?
I think it far more likely they'll end up painting them either as brave but ultimately totally helpless and in need of saving by the Mighty Sigmarines, or brave and victorious only because they were so desperate to impress Sigmar in the hope he'll elevate them to become Sigmarines themselves.
Considering how they wrote the fluff for bonsplitterz compared to ironjaw's and the general fluff of devoted of sigmar and certain events in a black library novel and campaign book where normal humans end up saving the stormcasts I will have to disagree with you. Plus in silver tower it was the new warrior priest that got everyone to work together to survive well all of them die in the end but I digress.
You can still have humans and fit them into high fantasy I think the devoted of sigmar show that quite well. Hell even stormcast use flagellants they are scary in a horde.
Great comment but spoilers, dude!
Anyway, not sure if "So many Stormcasts" is warranted since it's been a long time since they got anything. Focus on the other factions will arrive, just give GW time.
NinthMusketeer wrote: Stormcast really don't need mystic shield access within allegiance. Ditto on the overabundance of heroes, especially support-ability heroes (which is all of them minus lord-celestants and venator).
I think you'd be able to get dracoths on 0+ rerollable 1s armour!? (meaning -3 rend before you make a dent lol).
Waz looking through the Stormcast battletome, noticed in the diagram of stormhost organization that next to Heraldor and Relictor ranks there is one called 'Valedictor' could that be what we are going to see?
. Has that other Khorne 
then leaves. Sweet.
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