If they got rid of my extended family, no one would complain.

Or get attacked by the FO:NV equivalent to a hive tyrant

What? You wanna give me a heart attack here? Geez. The bad memories that dredges up.

 Valhalla130 wrote:
What? You wanna give me a heart attack here? Geez. The bad memories that dredges up.

There are spots there to shoot from that keep you out of his claws ya know.

It is said those spots indeed exist... Never found em meself... just level up and clobber the darn beast!

There is a rock grinding tower, play your cards right and climb and use a scoped rifle to kill him

That's how I did it shaso , although did you know that deep in the south east there is a spot with four families of deathclaws, each with momma, poops and a bunch of puppies? That was the hardest slaughterfest I had to see through...the quarry was a picnic compared to that...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
That's how I did it shaso , although did you know that deep in the south east there is a spot with four families of deathclaws, each with momma, poops and a bunch of puppies? That was the hardest slaughterfest I had to see through...the quarry was a picnic compared to that...

Ah, the blind deathclaws! silenced weapons are the way to go, especially with a scope attached, hehehehe.

Blind???? They didn't appeared to be blind...

Pfft, Abilene Kid LE BB Gun all the way. Combined with all the sniper and crit perks it's the ultimate doombringer. Zoink, zoink, dead.
Quite ridiculous when you have that gruesome death perk and a single bb pellet spreads tiny pieces of death claw all over the place.

That is still somthing I want to try... Although I have to say it sounds like playing wow or mathhammer...I prefer a more fluffy game style

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
Blind???? They didn't appeared to be blind...

The blind Deathclaws have awesome wicked hearing, they hone in on you by every sound you make.

that makes sense...

Using the super BB gun doesn't seem as fun to me....

I prefer the silenced sniper rifle that you can find in Big MT

ooh..I never found that!

Get back to work

Nice minion!

 dsteingass wrote:
ooh..I never found that!

Gobi desert campaign rifle on steroids

Ok.>This trimwork seemed to take forever to do...

You're one of those guys that museums always end up hiring to building little dioramas for them.

I wish! I'd easily change careers to do that!

You and me both Dave.

Coming along really well, what sort of cool stuff are you going to fill this bad boy with?

 Casey's Law wrote:
Coming along really well, what sort of cool stuff are you going to fill this bad boy with?

I will take the decay of the wasteland for 500.


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Oh also since we are on the topic of Fallout still.

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/action/fallout-new-vegas/

fallout new vegas is $3.00 over on greenmangaming

You never fail to impress. The building you are working on is so detailed it looks like a military diorama. Looking forward to seeing it finished.

Dave, if you go and make panels under the trim, you will have wainscotted miniatures!

Trim may have taken awhile but it looks great!

~Eric

Thanks guys! Believe it or not, I'm out of the 1/4" floor tile plasticard. I need to go pick some more up, as well as a list of other styrene shapes I've exhausted my supply of.
My post-Apocalyptic Scooby Doo gang arrived today, along with Ladygeek's Bday present, an all-female Dwarf Bloodbowl team

Detailing looks good Dave.
There appears to be quite a bit of space inside that building, have you got plans for it, like furniture?

I too would not say no to a job building miniature displays for museums or anywhere really...

I can't wait to see the Scooby gang.

 dsteingass wrote:
Thanks guys! Believe it or not, I'm out of the 1/4" floor tile plasticard. I need to go pick some more up, as well as a list of other styrene shapes I've exhausted my supply of.
My post-Apocalyptic Scooby Doo gang arrived today, along with Ladygeek's Bday present, an all-female Dwarf Bloodbowl team

Bearded ladies and schoolboy and the gang are ready to investigate the wasteland

Come on Dave, get the gang painted up and will give you some Scooby Snacks...

I've got to be in the mood and the zone to paint figs..maybe after the ruin.

To answer your questions about the rooms..I don't know! I have some bathroom tile I could use, but Dr. H's most excellent throne master is still being built, and no sign of a bathtub, I've heard there are 1/4" scale dollhouse things but haven't compared size to a mini. Also, I didn't build any wall structure below on the first floor to contain the pipes that would usually be hidden behind walls. I REALLY want to have those walls busted open exposing the pipes in the walls.

 dsteingass wrote:
Thanks guys! Believe it or not, I'm out of the 1/4" floor tile plasticard. I need to go pick some more up, as well as a list of other styrene shapes I've exhausted my supply of.
My post-Apocalyptic Scooby Doo gang arrived today, along with Ladygeek's Bday present, an all-female Dwarf Bloodbowl team

Speaking of, I need to get some orders now that I am able to afford it.
Hasslefree is always good
She'll enjoy that a lot, especially if she is winning the bloodbowl!

The chick team have no beards. Wolf Blitzer's beard is a holy relic!
They are from Eureka Australia
http://eurekamin.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=12083

Those are amazing! I see they have the bit of beer drinking belly of dwarves though, as should be for a beer lover!

Haven't seen that team before, saw the old female dwarf team, but can't find them now that I searched.

Thought perhaps you got her these ladies: Warlord Games Sister Sledgehammerers

My buddy just got HF's tooled up Scooby gang as well. We'll be using them for Zombicide initially.

I think you mentioned it, but I can't seem to find where: What is the black building material you are using? Is that some form of styrene? Whereabouts did you find it?

Looking forward to more.

~Eric

It's PVC foam. I get it from www.iplasticsupply.com
I get it in 1/8" (walls) and 1/4" (pavement) thicknesses

 dsteingass wrote:
It's PVC foam. I get it from www.iplasticsupply.com

Thank you good sir.

~Eric

That's also where I buy my 0.40" styrene sheets. Buy a bunch at once because it's expensive to ship (but still tons cheaper than buying it by the sheet from Evergreen or Plastruct.

@Taarnak: yeah cool team, not safe for family general audiences though

Where for art thou master..........

 Camkierhi wrote:
Where for art thou master..........

Lost in the wilderness with a gun I'm sure .

Hello fellas! Busy weekend with Ladygeek's birthday and all. I'm playing with Dakka Minecraft servers though

I still haven't made it to Phil's Hobby shop for plastic restocking.

 shasolenzabi wrote:
@Taarnak: yeah cool team, not safe for family general audiences though

I disagree. Everything taboo is covered. To each his own though.

~Eric

Falling behind Dave! Just kidding, hope the Ladygeek enjoyed her dwarves. And I can hardly find any enjoyment in mine craft anymore :(

What's Minecraft????!!!!!!!!!

Cam..are you serious?

 dsteingass wrote:
Cam..are you serious?

My thoughts exactly.

He's got to be joking, right?

another game I don't know about? I need to stop painting and get computer-ing don't I?

DOH! More who know not of the insidious Minecrafting

I've been playing on the Dakka Feed The Beast server, Dakka-ites make amazing terrain there too!

... there's people that don't know what Minecraft is?

FTB is awesome. It gets hella complex though. I have overplayed minecraft though and am now broed as hell with it.

I was looking at the minecraft world of a classmate...it was all I could do not to puke from the dizziness caused by the constant awful graphics...really all that bobbing and then the blocky looks...it was just like in dose times of duke nukem...I was vomiting due dizziness back thenquite often...took me long to llearn my lessons...

I'm a noob to it all, it is complex. All I know is that they blame Shrike for every eyesore upon the land

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
I was looking at the minecraft world of a classmate...it was all I could do not to puke from the dizziness caused by the constant awful graphics...really all that bobbing and then the blocky looks...it was just like in dose times of duke nukem...I was vomiting due dizziness back thenquite often...took me long to llearn my lessons...

im just going to pretend you didn't say that about duke nukem.

So, Shrike has been busy blotting the Minecraft landscape eh?

Why, pray tell?

Minecraft? Seriously, what the heck? Why minecraft? There's always better things to do than that. Hell, i'd rather even paint space marines...

Rofl...pulling your own fingernails out is also a good substitute option...I've heard...

True, a very good one... Or searching for the lost lord of the Daves...

Civ 5 is my downfall. If it weren't for that, my back would hurt even more from scrunching over my hobby table.

I have the Skyrim add ons, OMG back to the morrow wind land of Solstheim and the volcanic island!

Minecraft.

Not sure if i should be proud or not since the game was invented by a guy in sweden.. never played. probably never will. i'm not the guy how complains about graphics in a game. i mean.. i still play GTA San Andreas and i love it!
but COME ON!!! the pixels in that games is bigger than the friggin monitor!


Great work on the ruins though.

Right, but you can live in an around those pixels, this mod is seriously complicated with high-tech stuff you can build.

Vitruvian is my neighbor, I stole his color scheme, it's Dakka!

I remember I spent an entire summer obsessing over minecraft. Then I got burned out. Then FTB became popular, and then I figured it all out. And now here I am. If I could forget all minecraft experiences and play it like I did the first days I had it, that would be fantastic.

Enjoy your time fellas, before you get tired of the game as well.

I'm just figuring things out now, I'm fascinated with all the things you can do..things I never thought anyone would do, like building a giant meat fountain


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I was playing it like Vanilla until I built my first jetpack and mining drill

I still prefer the Dragonborn and Dawn guard dlc for skyrim, and can't wait for FO-4

I agree with you there about FO-4 I know it might be taboo but I couldn't stand skyrim. All my friends love it and still play it from time to time, I beat it, maxed a character, and just got tired of it.

 Nafarious wrote:
I agree with you there about FO-4 I know it might be taboo but I couldn't stand skyrim. All my friends love it and still play it from time to time, I beat it, maxed a character, and just got tired of it.

I am working on maxing out the Argonian dragonborn who wears dragonscale armor, DLC l;et me adopt 2 kids and marry the fighter woman in the bar in whiterun, build a big house, and then IO got the Dragonborn dlc and now have gained a house on Solstheim in the old Morrow wind area as they kind of went retro there, Dawnguard I will deal with Vampires. Plenty of fun there, I have yet to finish FO:NV

Meanwhile, more space ships done for Starblazers, ahem, Yamato 2199 on my thread and am waiting for updates of the ruins by Dave on this thread!

My only regret for my xbox 360 is never finishing Skyrim. The idea of better graphics, dlc and mods on ther computer though almost makes me want to start over. but... that would be a lot of work.

LOL, I'm not sure why they blame Shrike, but apparently it's a thing to blame Shrike for everything

 dsteingass wrote:
LOL, I'm not sure why they blame Shrike, but apparently it's a thing to blame Shrike for everything

It is just the way he comes across to some I figure, so yeah, the "Blame Shrike for every thing" seems universal at this time, LOL!

google blameshrike

 dsteingass wrote:
google blameshrike

OMG! LOL!

I never played Minecraft but I've sat for many (many) hours w/ my son. He got into it in '11 and still plays it. The Lava Dungeon is where we've been a lot recently.

Feed the beast is a collection of tech, industrial, and magic mods. Changes the game almost entirely from vanilla. Very, very complex. Automation is sick. You can build big mining quarries that even work while you are logged out among other things.

I have nothing to add as I have no idea what Minecraft is and no intention of finding out...

I will though say that I blame Shrike for Dave's lack of updates

Funny, since he is so stuck up with homework that this would be an amazing feat even for him to be guilty of that as he has been absent at dakka for more than two months...but what do o know of these things...

Who is Shrike anyway?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/user/profile/10470.page

A friend and fellow dakkanite and a riveteer too...and even a fellow brit...

Dave has been trapped in the caves of minecraft for some time now.

 Nafarious wrote:
Dave has been trapped in the caves of minecraft for some time now.

Minecraft, fo, my parents were right.....computer games will be the end of us.

My point exactly....

HA! cam... er...*looks back at time spent with FO...* "damn"...

What is the extraordinary league of riveters anyways?

 Nafarious wrote:
What is the extraordinary league of riveters anyways?

A league of those who rivet.
Extraordinarily

I hope one day to join their hallowed ranks

i will answer this question as if it was meant in a sincere way

we are a fellowship of modelers that have seen the need to teach and show the world of other modelers the virtue of all things that is riveted...
thus we have collected likeminded and talented peeps that have prooven to be skilled and inventive in designing new ways how to...to not put a too fine point on it...rivet your models...

there are so many ways to achive a nice rivetd surface... almost all our members have designed and shown here and there how it is done as a way to help others on their way to great looking models, be it terrain, vehicles or even minis...

also... have a look here...:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/The_League_of_Extraordinary_Riveters

Show off works of rivets on models, they can be snipped plastic rod, from sheets that are sold online, PVA glue rivets, or drilled inverted rivet spots, but the idea is to make models with a dose of rivets in them, That gets our full attention!!

Be they flyers, tanks, walkers, skimmers, bridges, walkways, or other models, we love rivets!

I love a bowl of rivet-road ice cream topped in whipped rivet cream and rivet sauce with rivet sprinkles and a giant stem bolt on top! That is how we roll!

^what the man said...and he knows his business^^

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
^what the man said...and he knows his business^^

Word up! Now where are pics of Dave's Marvelous terrain updates???

indeedy!

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
i will answer this question as if it was meant in a sincere way

we are a fellowship of modelers that have seen the need to teach and show the world of other modelers the virtue of all things that is riveted...
thus we have collected likeminded and talented peeps that have prooven to be skilled and inventive in designing new ways how to...to not put a too fine point on it...rivet your models...

there are so many ways to achive a nice rivetd surface... almost all our members have designed and shown here and there how it is done as a way to help others on their way to great looking models, be it terrain, vehicles or even minis...

also... have a look here...:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/The_League_of_Extraordinary_Riveters

I have been excommunicated , well my name never made the list either that or I must show more rivets soon. To the rivetmobile rosie

Ive never read so much hate on this thread before! its simple, you dont like it, dont play it. But dont blame the worlds problems on something you dont understand. Be it a game, a gun, or anything else fellas. My hobby bench is right beside me, and ill get back to it. Fear not.

no hate for minecraft... but i get seasick whenever i look at it for some minutes...

Did I miss some hate? I just understood it as "What is minecraft and where is Dave" and "We want dave back" and lastly everyone went crazy and became almost zombie like starved for some awesome model looking stuff from Minion Dave

Sorry boss, we just miss you.

PS I think that list needs an update, several names missing I think (including mine)

No hate here dave, we just want to see more terrain goodness. Sorry if we offended you. We all need our breaks from the hobby, and maybe we'll see some excellent mine raft inspired work soon.

Vik time to add names to the roll!

Ditto. I'm rivetting, just ask my pupils...

What your eye's can talk?

lol cam... you ol silly

and shaso... it wasn´t my article... can i change something on someone elses article?

 Camkierhi wrote:
What your eye's can talk?

I just blew my drink out my nose and mouth.... At a restaurant. Now I need to go clean off my daughter.... Well played sir, well played.

wow, you broke Theo

 Theophony wrote:

 Camkierhi wrote:
What your eye's can talk?

I just blew my drink out my nose and mouth.... At a restaurant. Now I need to go clean off my daughter.... Well played sir, well played.

Poor poor Theo :( really though poor theo's daughter who is now covered in saliva and ... water?

 Nafarious wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 Camkierhi wrote:
What your eye's can talk?

I just blew my drink out my nose and mouth.... At a restaurant. Now I need to go clean off my daughter.... Well played sir, well played.

Poor poor Theo :( really though poor theo's daughter who is now covered in saliva and ... water?

Unfortunately she got a dr. Pepper shower, and on our way to church for her youth group meeting.

I appreciate the love fellas. I have a tendency to go all-or-nothing on whatever I do. Unfortunately I fire up the afterburners until I burn out, which also happens..often.

Well, however wrote the names article needs to update our list to add Theo and any other league members not shown on the list

Come back to modelling Dave.
But not before you are ready.

On the League article thing; I just checked and it's possible for anyone to add themselves to the list, you just have to hit "edit" and copy one of the previous members entries, then replace the name, the link and the name of the blog. (remember to copy all the spacers etc...).
So maybe each member that is not on the list adds themselves to the list and then it's not a major task for one person to achieve...

Vitruvian wrote that article, and I'm not sure how to edit it myself.

he's also been playing on the Dakka FTB server. He is my neighbor in the new -=]_,=- District



Can you guess which place is mine from this picture?

At the very top of the article above the "EX" of EXTRAORDINARY is "edit", click on that.
Then scroll down to the last "|-" that is above the "|}" and hit return to create a new line.
Then copy the text that is in the quote below (not as is appears in this thread but as it does in the typing box thing if you quote this post)...

| Dr H
| [http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/471119.page The (Mad) Scientist's Army of The Second Law]
|-

Paste that in the new line you just made in the article.
Change my name ("Dr H" in this case) to your own,
Change the link to the link of your own blog, and
Change the name that follows that to the name of your blog.
And then hit "save" at the bottom and it's done.

Vik, the guy you saw play it was probably running it in the QuakePro mode, a vomit-inducing graphic setting that I too hate.

Your place is with that hover dam piece to it? Lol...
And well, the mate used to do all the fancy machines you talked about , he made a machine to produce food from chickens and he made even a fully functional train...so I dunno which version that would have been...

Vik that can be done in FTB but there are multiple version of it. I remember when we made ours, we just played normal minecraft and then went all technological and then basically completed everything and I now have a brain full of useless knowledge instead of college stuff.

Hehe, yep! The big BRICK buildings are mine. The large building I built, then we started building a massive metal smeltery inside. Nefarious, I can see that happening too, although I don't even understand a small percentage of what can be done.

Oh yea I built one of those our of that nice stone from the dungeons.

Well, I used an unnamed red cobblestone because it was close. I didn't yet have flight and hadn't discovered a Badlands biome yet full of delicious clay to make the better-looking bricks

Hobby? Hooooobby? Where are you?

Apparently I need to throw a bone!

At last..................................................

The main problem I see with me an minecraft is, I never got along quite good with game editors... Somehow the need to try them out wad always there , but somehow once I played with them my inspiration evaporated as soon as I started...sounds weird, eh?
And I think I need to ask him which version he plays...thx nafarius


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Oh...it has been so long ago since we saw some hobby related work here that I can't tell if Dave just dishes out an old pic to us to keep our gobs shut...

Haha,I just got some more tile floors and I just cut them to rough size Vik

I wish that there was cobbled streets plasticard. If anyone knows of any please let me know, if not I am going to have to craft my own and that just doesn't sound like fun.

there sure is! in multiple scales actually!
http://www.plastruct.com/picat/PLAIN_PATTRND_SHTS_9.pdf
scroll down to the patterned sheets section.

Other companies make similar sheets too.

This is Plastruct O scale, you could also use 1/4" dollhouse scale if you can find it. HO would probably be too small, unless you wanted the cobble that small

That building just needs a tripwire and axe combo at he top of the steps , sorry watching walking dead .

I've used the HO scale stuff for my 1/72 (or 20mm) Wehrmacht artillery limber

dsteingass wrote:Haha,I just got some more tile floors and I just cut them to rough size Vik

see?! it has been so long that i can´t remember what already has been done

and i am going tomorrow to my own plastic dealer... i have my beady eyes on some embossed plasticcard too... tiles as i started my inq band with tiles and what else i can palm away^^

dave... that yellow plasticcard you got me back in the days was that the H0 cobblestone? i never used that yet...

Haha Theo! We've been re-watching all TWD too..10 days till NEW!!

 Theophony wrote:
That building just needs a tripwire and axe combo at he top of the steps , sorry watching walking dead .

sounds like FO too by the way
only there you get a fully I-beam swinging at you

Vik- THat brittle stuff? I don't know, I bought a bunch of it years ago on a discount rack.

 dsteingass wrote:
I've used the HO scale stuff for my 1/72 (or 20mm) Wehrmacht artillery limber

That reminds me...

I need a good 4' of properly scaled for 40K/Infinity chain link fencing with barbed wire topping...

...any idea on where I could find that?

Is there a 'correct' train scale size I should be looking for?

Thanks!

i actually dopn´t know if it is brittle... as i haven´t found a use for it... but i am a horder so i kept it snug on my shelf for one future day use...the magic spark didn´t happen yet thus i can´t really tell what it would be handy for...


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maybe you could use it for wall effects? like ugly mushrooms...

Your best bet is to use Aluminum mesh for chain link fencing, but if you want to buy it, look at this
http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Miller-Engineering-O-48985-10-High-Chain-Link-Fen-p/mil-48985.htm
When using Train stuff, always go with O scale. If in doubt, take one of your minis to a train/hobby store and compare them to an O scale figure. You can sometimes use different scales depending on what look you're going for, but you have to watch out for scalebusters. Bricks and blocks are different sizes in real life, so they can be adapted, but watch out for fixtures and things that just look wrong.

I'd highly recommend ordering a Plastruct catalog. I think it costs $5 or $10, but it's totally worth it
It's your scratchbuilding bible

It also gives you real measurements for planning purposes

at alpharius...nice avatar

Vik, you'll notice the brittleness when you first try to cut it. Shouldn't be a problem if you add rubble, grass, etc. to it.

ah i see...

Vik, it's this stuff

exactly!...
nw in that perspective you could even use it as carpetfloor...

sure! you could use it for anything really. It's just bumpy

Unbrainwash yourselves from the mental Tyranny of GW's mindset, and ye shall be free!

Oh wow thanks Dave, I knew you would be the right one to ask. I have some of the tile from plasticard right now, but I ordered some new circle orboros, and want to model them like the worgen from WoW and have a cobble street ghost town of wolves. I will definitely take a look at and maybe print out that catalog, also I may even need some of those chain link fences. But how do I order from this catalog?

dsteingass wrote:Your best bet is to use Aluminum mesh for chain link fencing, but if you want to buy it, look at this
http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Miller-Engineering-O-48985-10-High-Chain-Link-Fen-p/mil-48985.htm
When using Train stuff, always go with O scale. If in doubt, take one of your minis to a train/hobby store and compare them to an O scale figure. You can sometimes use different scales depending on what look you're going for, but you have to watch out for scalebusters. Bricks and blocks are different sizes in real life, so they can be adapted, but watch out for fixtures and things that just look wrong.

I'd highly recommend ordering a Plastruct catalog. I think it costs $5 or $10, but it's totally worth it
It's your scratchbuilding bible

It also gives you real measurements for planning purposes

Thanks Dave - I will follow your advice here!

Viktor von Domm wrote:at alpharius...nice avatar

He's always been a favorite of mine.

I changed my Avatar a while back, so if you've only just noticed, it must mean you're one of the Good Ones.

Or, the really Sneaky Ones...

Sneaky

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
Sneaky

NINJA!!

sneaky ninja?...tasty^^

oh...and happy 125 pages anniversary!!!!

woot 125!

125 of what is like the 5th p&m blog Dave has.

I feel like I just about got a fix, Dave, more models would be nice.

Congrats on 125 pages.

126 now thanks to you @Camkierhi

LOOOOL....

OOps


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OOps

it was bound to happen

At least I should get commission sales money from Plastruct eh?

Yea probably, I will let them know that Minion Dave sent me

I love model company brochures - couple of my favourites are Woodland Scenics (2009 I think) and Wills & Ratio (all kinds of model railway scratchbuild goodies). Always get plenty of inspiration from them.

BTW, wonderful to see an update

Building is shaping up nicely!

Yes, your bathroom should ALWAYS be stocked with model literature!!

 dsteingass wrote:
Yes, your bathroom should ALWAYS be stocked with model literature!!

Model literature, or literature about models? And are we talking model tanks, or models posing on tanks?

Well, my iPad is always in the bathroom, on top of a stack of Finescale Modeler, Model Railroader, and various other literature YMMV depending on what your wife allows

 Theophony wrote:

 dsteingass wrote:
Yes, your bathroom should ALWAYS be stocked with model literature!!

Model literature, or literature about models? And are we talking model tanks, or models posing on tanks?

Both......


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HI!!!!!!!!!!!!

Huh, I always have my phone and the new No. Quarter now. I also will either print or order those catalogs. I am home from college right now but work all weekend. Bleh.

The last sheet of this 1/4" tile I got was strangely thicker than the last, my hand is sore from cutting these tiles out

That's coming along so well, Dave. Pain & Gain. Pain your hand, Gain an awesome looking tile floor. Are you going to add loose tiles around the bottom black parts? (closest to us, stairs/left to right)

Why yes!..Yes I am!

Duhh!

That's what I'm talkin' about, Dave!

Dont worry dave, your time playing games on he computer has caused modeling muscle atrophy. You will regain muscle strength will return now that your back in full swing. Just take two airbrushes and call us in the morning.

I would suggest meeting with Dr. hinternet, he's a specialist in the modeling world. Undoubtably he will suggest you do some strength training by carving sprue, but he has his was

Nice work Dave. Looking good.

Don't forget to "accidentally" pull some off with masking tape...


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 Theophony wrote:
strength training by carving sprue

I've actually found it better to be gentle when carving sprue...

There's many other ways to improve finger and lower arm strength...

Primage

Your work reminds me of volcanoes and earthquakes... For way too long all is quiet...pieceful even () and all of a sudden lava gets everywhere, whole continents float and crash around...it only needs one jerk...who was it this time Dave ... Looks brilliantly in its yuckyness . And I find no mercy for handstrain due to hobby work... The outcome justifies the means and mean parts ha! Sometimes I could slay myself...

Haha..well, the Minecraft server was down for most of yesterday....

no, really I felt like I let you guys down!

Now I am happy. Looking sweet. Floor looking awesome.

Now that is an awesome pace you're working at! Looks very good already!
Also it proves cams point completly as one whole minecraft free day can be so productive

It's always worth the wait when you produce the goods, like that.

Thanks guys! Sorry Max, I missed your HI!

I like how your doing he header of the windows a differvent color, very oldschool this is why I Gould learn more about computers...so I can crash servers and get production going. Really I Han nothing to do with it

I really love your fallout buildings, really just keeps getting better and better!

What's the manufacturer of the kits you are using for the external parts?

Thanks! They are O scale DPM panels, by Walthers, marketed for O scale Train hobbyists. They are NOT easy to work with, as they require a belt sander to cut 45 degree angles in each wall segment in order to build anything.

Sorry Theo, the crash was caused by someone who built a force field that intersected with another functional block, simply a glitch.


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Here I've sprayed the ceilings black, then when dry, I applied some crackle medium. I've never had much luck with the stuff in the past, but apparently it requires the top coat and then it magically crackles. We shall see.

Nice field research with the crackle medium...I have a pot waiting for future use quite a while...

This is the craft paint variety, we shall see. It's still slightly sticky, even in front of the fan for awhile now.

i even had slight cracky effects happen to my works when using PVA...i bet the medium is almost the same in sustance really...

Nah, it's a clear, sticky stuff, reminds me of corn syrup or something along that line.

granted the substance appears differently but the effect almost is the same... but i bet the medium is more reliably producing cracks...

You get that with PVA when there is a bubble below the paint that hasn't dried/cured.

ouch... (i think i´ve learned a lesson now...)

Each building keeps looking even better than the one before, great job all the way.

Dave you know you never let us down! and I got to say that building is freakin' sweet as! the floor with the missing tiles just screamed to me and slapped me with an open hand of inspiration! *SLAP* love it man, so good! :-)

I see you are far above amateur as par usual, Dave.....

Jeez Dave those are looking great. Well worth the wait!

Thanks guys!

I think I'm done with Minecraft now. I did something stupid, fell into a room with a lich, got killed, lost all my stuff, including my power armor. I don't even have the equipment to build new batteries for it. completely disheartening.

I know, I'll get no sympathy here right?

gak man I hate when that happens. I have played enough times to know that feel too damn well TT really sorry to hear that. Don't get discouraged but I do understand that it is insanely difficult to build back up to where you were. When we were playing there was an accident and the equivalent of a nuke went off in our alchemy lab. destroyed the lab, the alchemy equipment, the crystal chests, and two of the solar farms I had set up. So much work gone :(

that really sucks! I can borrow other people's Magma crucibles and induction smelters, but on foot, that'll take all weekend, and I just don't want to spend the time right now doing that. If I do go back, The first thing I'll do is build backup power armor. Time to fire up the airbrush. At least that time spent isn't wasted....

Yea you still enjoyed it though, and you will go back one day and play it some more. I wish I could actually be productive this weekend but I either have to work or am dealing with some unnecessary situation. Dave be productive for me

I'll try!
Here you can sort of see the subtle crackling effect as the topcoat dries


I'd imagine those bubbly bits of crackle medium below the light grey paint will be bigger cracks, we shall see.

Ooh so pretty. I remember learning how to do that with glue, an airbrush, and a hair dryer. What airbrush do you use or a better question what would you recommend for someone starting out.

The building is looking to be even more awesome than first thought Dave!

I always recommend Badger if you live in the US or UK. made in Chicago (parts are your biggest concern, you WILL bend needles). I have several now, but I use my Badger Sotar 20/20 for almost everything nowadays. For Starting out, I'd recommend the Badger Patriot 105. Whatever you decide, get a gravity feed, dual action. The Sotar has a smaller color cup, I waste less paint that way. Siphon feeders are a Huge mess and waste of paint.

Hmm ok thanks I will check that out.

'ere we go
EDIT: putting these in the dakka gallery

Very nice. Really looks the part.

Man, that is totally awesome, Dave. Painting looks great and atmospheric. Walls and ceilings look the part and compliment the broken tile floor. Perfect little two story with lots of utility for so many different games.

I think I'm going to play FO now. Thanks a lot, Dave. lol

Just amazing as always. I feel fulfilled. Why do I feel like a cigarette. ? (I have never smoked.)

Haha Thanks guys!

Now it's time to add some variety


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The ever-important scale shot

pre-wired with lights, but I took them out to save for a later project

The modular nature

The newly painted building is looking fantastic

Who's the dodgy guy lurking in the newly painted building

 dsteingass wrote:

That's my one and only Vault Dweller mini

This is a (very greasy) resin kit!

The Victorian Row house will serve as a pattern for some scratchbuilt companions for it


Scale

Is a reminder, I am in need of ordering some stuff from you and Galorn's pet project as I do need some terrain add ons and vending machines Dave

Glad to hear it! PM Galorn for your -=]_,=- discount!

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Glad to hear it! PM Galorn for your -=]_,=- discount!

PM is in the inbox. I also got wild and ordered stuff from Brother Vinni as well, FO mainly. Commissar and chaingunner

as someone still deep in the rabbit lair of FO i can attest the look of these recent buildings is totally the spitting image!...wow dave...really those works of yours makes all of us rage when we hear you play games instead of providing us with more eyecandies....

the new kits will make excellent additions...the lionel one tho i think is a bit out of place... poited roofs?...i only ever remember these in washington?... and in the simulation?...or am i wrong here? but i have the deepest faith of course

It's a pretty common mid-19th century construction here in the US and Canada Vik, especially in snow-prone areas (snow slides off so less weight on roofs)

somehow i think i kept my eyes too much to the floor so that those rooftops escaped my view

and of course snow...yes that makes sense!

I should qualify that..it's common on wood-framed homes from the period. Masonry or brick buildings can handle the flat-roof. Also remember that Washington D.C. was a planned city layout, where other towns just sort of grew around major shipping lanes (rivers, canals, etc.)

really planned out cities are rare in europe... there are a few... but mostly you get these old "i- make- a- big- city- out- of- this- once..." type of town...usually also known as city cancer...

The newer building looks great dave , and your sidewalk work has paid off well. Now just get o'gradys put together and the nuka cola machine will look better next to it I think.

I'm not sure what to do with Grady's yet. the floors (and supports) are all 1-peice molded. Should I make it a complete inaccessible building? Or open it up as a ruin?

i think a complete accessable ruin will always be more satisfining for you...
i think one of the most frustrating issues of the game is when houses are completly shut...for no reason...as other houses are available to rummage around in...

Very True Vik....


How should I cut it?

Hmm, if cut right, you'd get 2 different sets of ruins to play in Dave.

Yes, I've thought of that, but notice the molding

don´t ask me... if i was you however...i would make the most of it and try to cut it in sucha way to make mybe two houses out of one kit...


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 shasolenzabi wrote:
Hmm, if cut right, you'd get 2 different sets of ruins to play in Dave.

ninja´ed

I meant if you glued all the stories together, and then cut along the bricks just right, a fronted ruin, and a back side of the building ruin which are the less expected ruins but do happen.

my thoughts exactly too...

Don't forget that those internal structure bits can be used to support the floors of your final building.

and think about where you want stairs etc...

I see what you are saying, but....


They both would end up looking too small

Ah, if you are thinking of splitting it into two ruins, how about diagonally and making two single corner ruins (whatever the official description is)?

It's a possibility

The first ruin is very small at roughly 6x6" inches as it is...

yep... triangular ruins!!!

Something like this?

Yeah, something like that.

Yep the diagonal w ould look best.

I don't think I'm gonna get two usable sides, the destruction needs to cascade down to look right

Just stepping out from the lurk, Dave - really impressed by your crackle success, I've never had any luck getting it to work.

Thanks Graven. It didn't work as well as I wanted it to. I think the key is a thicker topcoat, which I didn't have.


I wanted a bigger crackle

Could you not swap the floors around on the "second" ruin to create a cascade?

I've been thinking about that, but until it's cut, I won't know for sure. I'm just staring at my pen lines and second guessing myself right now.....
2 stories might work, but the third would just be an off-center suicide door

Yeah, it'll probably be a bit of 3D tetris to find a way to make it work. But yeah, you should get 2 floors easily enough and use the spare walls as debris/fallen over wall.


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Unless, before you chop it up, cut some bits of paper to those shapes and see if it'll work or a different line might work better.

WHAT IF????

It's a board-edge building? Like a playset or a cross-section view of an intact building?
It'll likely be on a board edge anyways right??

You're going to need bits of terrain to go around the edge I suppose, they can't all be in the middle...

I got it!

I'll make it an intact building, and use the stacking floors! Detail the interior of each floor, so you can get minis inside!

Like the Infinity buildings! Brilliant!

Nah..my idea is bust because of the way they stack and the support molding being on top, not on bottom.

 dsteingass wrote:
Nah..my idea is bust because of the way they stack and the support molding being on top, not on bottom.

Bummer! Shame it would not work like that. :(

I'm gone at work for a full day and now we are spouting nonsense? Dave have you never been to get the experimental MIRV in Fallout 3, you litterally have to stack up the barrels to get to one of the switches, there are doors to no where all the time. If Fo3 worked on my mac I would go there in a heartbeat and show you.

That being said I am way more interested in seeing an alley way set up. Like that part with the crazy guy who tries to blow you up if you go down there.

Also great work so far, keep it up glad to see that you are kicking into full gear again.

You seem to know quite a lot about scale model terrain and buildings, can you point my in a good direction of a castle wall and or gate?

As to doors to no where they always could be out to a balcony, or a nice fire escape running up to the roof?

Sorry, lots of family time yesterday, so couldn't chime in. I say keep it in tact dave, if anything blow out just one back corner, to let h sun shine in. I don't know if either of he two small boxes between levels would allow for your staircase to be a split staircase. If so I'd pu it back there. Looks like an older design building where the bottom floor would be a business, then a separate entry on the side or back or the top floors for offices or apartments. Back area of the first floor could be food prep and storage with a solid wall between it and the stairs up. The second floor old be an office like an accounting firm (bathroom only, no shower or tub), and the third floor be a single bedroom apartment, like o'grady lives there. That center round connector could be used for your plumbing shaft, or central heating vent from a basement boiler room, which I think you should build a cellar door for that attaches behind the building.

I like how the doorways on your buildings are Space Marine proof - they'd never be able to get their huge shoulder pads to fit through

marines know how to turn sideways.

Backpacks

ALL of my terrain is Space Marine proof! so is my Modeling bench and gaming table!

Good ideas, all of em!

I've never built a castle, always wanted to, but I never painted enough Empire troops or even PLAYED WFB to tell you the truth.


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 Theophony wrote:
marines know how to turn sideways.

If it's anything like Space Hulk, it costs them a LOT of time to turn their fat arssses sideways

Hey Dave! Its been too long since ive posted anything, particularly due to the fact that ive no idea about terrain modelling so ive really got nothing constructive (haha) to offer. other than this is mindboggly cool that you can build these sets! I mean, i aint gonna lie, itd be pretty dang fun to play on one of your tables! Maybe one of these days ill be inspired enough to try my hand at this .... someday...


BB

Thanks Bebop! I find terrain a lot more forgiving than figure painting. I can sort of do my own thing without worrying about eyes

Ha, I understand but that's in your mind. I quite miss your catachan blog we were jungle brothers:p

I haven't done much with 40k at all for quite awhile. In fact, my Catachans have been in their travel case for over a year now!


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EVen when I paint eyes, someone de-lurks to tell me how badly they suck

That would be vik.:p he's got quite an eye for eyes. In fact that's why I initially ended up naming that commissar for him because he was so hard on me haha

Haha, no If I post something without Vik's beady little eye criticizing it, I start to worry
I have to start counting his rivets to get back at him

 dsteingass wrote:
Haha, no If I post something without Vik's beady little eye criticizing it, I start to worry
I have to start counting his rivets to get back at him

LOL! Eyes and rivets!

ha!...i am currently even uploading some riveted pics...so get your calculated warmed up

at bebop... your thread is still on my to do list...i had a small hiatus...which is over but i still haven´t catched up with my backlist...

I was shopping for plastcruct plasitcard last night but I still haven't gotten paid yet so I was unable to do that.

@dave darn I am sad to hear that you have no recommendations I may just try to build my own before dropping money on the WHFB GW ones. We will just have to see. But on a side note I ended up gong to Michael's (craft shop in the us here for anyone who doesn't know) today with my Mother as she needed a few things and I found 2 rolls of 36" by 18" brick and cobblestone streets from the christmas village.

You can see more details on my p&m blog http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/538076.page#6123326

ignore the shameless plug.

I always wanted one of the GW castles, but I'd probably build my own myself. Although, by the time you buy that much brick plasticard, it may be cheaper to buy GW's I dunno. Carved foam is always a possibility too.

I was thinking carved foam. And I just bought a roll of 36" by 18" plasticardish material for around 17$ I could probably work with that if I needed to.

Dave, cut the buildings diagonally in the exact corners, and scratch build the ruined wall sections... I know you can do it, the league knows you can do it, feth, even you know you can do it...

Maus, I would need exact matching plasticard to do that
Well I got tired of my own indecision and just took the jigsaw to it


Right or wrong, this is it!

That looks pretty good though. I think it will work out just fine

Hooray! The courageous deed saves the day! 100 points for manly modeling

I Like it, but what happened to the front of the building?

Front of the model is fine. Question is what ya gonna do with the back that you cut off?

more buildings?

Thanks btw, that plastic really is thick.

The newest building looks great

Looks great, brave move, I am absolutely sure you will make it brilliant.

The windows and front all snap/screw on.

Good call Dave. Look forward to seeing what you now do to it.

Congrats on making the move for making that part of the accessible ruins!

You could always just make a completely wrecked building with the pieces left. Cause you know not every building could survive the apocalypse.

I haven't even built one ruin out of it yet, why is everyone worried about the leftover bits? lol

Because that is where the magic will happen. :O

There are never any left-over bits... Just undecided bits...

 dsteingass wrote:
I haven't even built one ruin out of it yet, why is everyone worried about the leftover bits? lol

We are a very worrying bunch of loonies...fancy you not knowing...

 MauS wrote:
There are never any left-over bits... Just undecided bits...

That's VERY true! Haha

My favorite kind of Loonies too!

 dsteingass wrote:
I haven't even built one ruin out of it yet, why is everyone worried about the leftover bits? lol

Because we've seen the glory of what you can build from scraps these being better than scraps we re waiting with growing eagerness.

Oh..I'm saddened to report that Phil Gieseking, owner of Phil's Hobby shop passed away. He made much of my stuff possible.

Oh... Was he a close friend to you?
How old did he get?

Awh I am sorry to hear that, he must've been a great guy :(

76, he wasn't that old really. Mesothelioma from working with asbestos during his Navy years.

And here I am hoping to make it past 60! He must have been tough living that long after the asbestos exposure/cancer. Much respect for him.

It all hit him suddenly actually. He was at the store every day up until about a month or so ago.

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It all hit him suddenly actually. He was at the store every day up until about a month or so ago.

Most likely, like me, it started and he kept quiet until he could not handle it anymore, old vets tend to do that. I had proto-symptoms of the heart failure in 1985 when they cut me loose for the heart condition from exposure, went many years unaware until 2000, started to the pitting edema, blood sugar was all normal for a man my size, kept working and active until 2004 when I swelled up like a puffer fish, and found out it was indeed CHF and since then on damn pills and having all sorts of fun discovering new limitations to live with. I think he lived his life on his terms as long as he could, and that is a good way to go about it. Live life to the best of one's ability to the end.

Still winning my SSD I may be able to get the VA to finally stop being penny pinchers and declare me a decent degree of disabled, I went in healthy, 2yrs is all they got and I came out a wreck according to my paperwork, and they want to say it ain't service related Dave, BUT I do have discharge papers that show two different health situations from entry to discharge.


On another note, i have some Terran fighters and Yamato to buil;d as well as some heavy weapon teams for the Greatcoats from WGF I am working on, and i added pilots to the AT-43 battestriders

Today I see that Soldier's burial benefits are cut off too because of these so-called Tea Party "patriots" - pathetic. Good luck getting the benefits you earned, this is all madness. I didn't make his funeral..I wonder if the VFW Color Guard was even able to give him 21 blank shells??

 dsteingass wrote:
Today I see that Soldier's burial benefits are cut off too because of these so-called Tea Party "patriots" - pathetic. Good luck getting the benefits you earned, this is all madness. I didn't make his funeral..I wonder if the VFW Color Guard was even able to give him 21 blank shells??

One would hope that some decent formal burial was performed and he got his due with the 7 rifles fired 3 times, or, even 3 rifles shooting 7 times for his 21 gun salute for his service. Tea Party Koch brother puppets need to be voted out of office in 2014.

Yeah..anyone that thinks these ass-clowns are suddenly concerned with "equality" is a fething moron. This transcends politics, this is just disrespectful.

 dsteingass wrote:
Yeah..anyone that thinks these ass-clowns are suddenly concerned with "equality" is a fething moron. This transcends politics, this is just disrespectful.

If not for their connections, they might have been placed in padded cells and pumped full of meds to calm them down and keep them from hurting society.

It is pretty damn disrespectful really, and politics is pretty stupid at it's given moment. I really just hate thinking about it :(

That really sucks, did his funeral go through? Just without the army respects?

Yeah, he was long retired. Funerals like that are private, but the vets usually attend to honor them. I was just curious. I know the Vets around here, they would've taken care of the ceremony anyways, out of their own pocket if necessary. It just came out today too..as if the whole death benefits thing for active duty casualties was an afterthought or something.....

Money for new techno gadgets and toys like tanks and missile systems but old and broken soldiers are something they hate to spend money on.

Well, I always like to TRY to put myself in someone else's shoes before I make a judgement. If I were in Washington, I think it would be very much like a trench war, no one can move, if you go over the top, you get shot in the face, if you run, your own people shoot you in the back. The environment is toxic and the Politicians use campaign money instead of bullets.

 dsteingass wrote:
Well, I always like to TRY to put myself in someone else's shoes before I make a judgement. If I were in Washington, I think it would be very much like a trench war, no one can move, if you go over the top, you get shot in the face, if you run, your own people shoot you in the back. The environment is toxic and the Politicians use campaign money instead of bullets.

Good observation! just5 a nutshell, I went in with a leg and eye issues, 3 in all, easy to work around, came out with 14 new issues added to the list.

Sorry for the loss of a good friend Dave. It's sad to say, but at least he only suffered for a month. My grandparents were it top shape for 70+ years before all the bad stuff began. They even won golds in the senior Olympics. I hope whatever my end is that it happens quick, not some long ordeal.

Don't get me started on the government I think I already discussed my opinion a long time back. Were to a point that it WILL require a new revolution to reinvent Washington.

I agree, I'm just afraid the Corporations and the rich will win that revolution.

 dsteingass wrote:
I agree, I'm just afraid the Corporations and the rich will win that revolution.

Them and all that money they can spend. That and no button marked "Revolution" on the remote controls in America.
Our Leaders ought to be picked from people who do not want power. Civil service ought to be like Military service of old. Name comes up, you go to congress or senate to go do a job for a few years and then go back to normal life/work. Also, the politicians ought to go and also be on ACA instead of the free uber care they get to enjoy at our tax expenses along with their self voted 250k checks