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I'm posting these to showcase my son and I's "shared ' Space Marine force. Mostly its been bought from ebay , cleaned up or stripped of paint and then painted / converted by me for my boy to play with ! Apparently thats a fair swop ......
More to follow if people want to see them.
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Couple of other vehicles that are finished , several more are still WIP's , my favourite at the minute being my backwards Leman Russ / Vindicator kit bash (also on Dakka )
Comments on camo ?
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Post by: Johnno
Have to say, your camo is really well done. Both in balance and colour choice. What really puts these models apart from the normal stuff you see is the weathering. Great stuff. Would love to see more, especially infantry if you have any.
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Post by: Just Dave
I think you've done a great job. The camo looks beautiful and I really like the colours you've gone for, the weathering looks great, also. I think it's a sterling job all-round, a shame more people haven't commented on this!
Have you done any foot-slogging Marines? Also, what Chapter are they?
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Hi guys , thanks for the comments , Marines have been done to a certain extent , and by that I mean they were mostly done fast to get my boy playing !
I'll post some pics tonight !
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Post by: caminacambob
Very nice work, the camo scheme works really well, the muted colours add to the effect. As the others said the weathering makes all the difference! Nice! 
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Post by: nerdfest09
Really like these! love the weathering the really thin scratches around the hull are convincing and work great with the brilliant chipping style you do! i'd be interested to know your methods for this? also the camo is awesome!
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Post by: Marty5
These are very nicely done! Can you give us a breakdown on how you did the weathering? Great job on the Land Raider!
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These are very nicely done! Can you give us a breakdown on how you did the weathering? Great job on the Land Raider!
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Post by: SickSix
The weathering is fantastic. I really like what you have done here.
How did you like the alternate Razorback turret?
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Post by: Sandyman11
Really impressive stuff here man, especially seeing as it's re-conditioned!
Would love to see how you do your infantry models, keep up the great work 
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Post by: AdeptArtificer
What I am most impressed by is that you took prepainted eBay models and ressurected them to this quality of end product. Very fine job sir. You make me a believer that there is a second life for models found on eBay. Fantastic work. I can tell you really put yourself into the hobby. Keep it up.
On a side note if you have a before and after shot of how far one of these has come it would be nice to see. No problem if you don't, just thought it would be cool.
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Wow ! Thanks very much guys ! I half expected a killing for "daring" to paint Marines in something other than blue ! :-)
( There's nothing wrong with blue either ! )
SickSix : I quite like the turret , its nothing special detail wise and mine had some warped parts and a few bubbles , but nothing that couldn't be fixed easily enough , and its CHEAP !!
Camo wise I just got a basic idea of camo patterns from google , settled on Tamiya Desert yellow for ALL bascoats and Vallejo German Grey for the cam base , got a bottle of wine and set to with the airbrush !
Chipping wise , I stole all my tecniques from other military modellers , but the principles are very easy . After all your shading , filtering etc use a colour that could realistically be metal primer , either dark grey or Red oxide ( avoid silver , bright metal is not often seen except for the first five minutes ) and apply with a VERY fine brush to all edges of plates , around hatches , where crew constantly walk etc , think of how scratched paint would get when a tank drove through a forest , a building , a sandstorm etc etc and make the scratches go in logical directions. For the hull sides very long thin scratches can be added using the fibres of a broken bamboo skewer dipped in paint , simply snap the skewer , dip in the chosen colour and drag the fibres in the direction you chose.
Then you use a very light colour of your original base colour to highlight the scratches , for large areas of chipping you can add fine lines of a darkened primer colour to further deepen the texture.
All brushes need to have really good points , all paints must be very thin , and you will need alot of time to do a LandRaider !!!!
Simples !!! :-)
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AdeptArtificer : Reconditioning ebay stuff can be alittle haphazard in that sometimes you end up buying parts from the various Bitz sellers anyway , but sometimes all thats needed is some greenstuff.
If I can I strip all my ebay purchases in brake fluid , this works 90% of the time ALL the time , brake fluid also seems to have an effect on plastic glue , I've noticed models very often just disassemble themselves , which is handy if you're gonna convert it.
Also stuff on ebay tends to be older , so its made with the light grey plastic instead of the new dark grey stuff GW use now , which is easier to cut ! :-)
Some infantry pics.
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Post by: More Dakka
"Camouflage is the colour of cowardice" -Some Space Marine Guy -M39.891
But in all honesty I really like this, great overall scheme, execution and especially weathering! I like that grungy hard beaten look they all have!
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 More Dakka wrote:"Camouflage is the colour of cowardice" -Some Space Marine Guy -M39.891
But in all honesty I really like this, great overall scheme, execution and especially weathering! I like that grungy hard beaten look they all have!
Its a shame someone didn't say " Being seen in the ambush BEFORE its sprung is for dead guys !" :-)
Thanks ! Grungy and hard beaten is what I was after . Automatically Appended Next Post:  Just Dave wrote:
Have you done any foot-slogging Marines? Also, what Chapter are they?
Sorry missed your post , Chapter name is "Storm Eagles " or occasionally becomes " Storm Wolves " when my son changes his mind. Both D.I.Y chapters but no fluff much as yet.
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Post by: Ifurita
Nice job. They turned out very nice. I like the camo scheme. Well executed and effective without being overpowering.
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Post by: Big H
AdeptArtificer wrote:
On a side note if you have a before and after shot of how far one of these has come it would be nice to see. No problem if you don't, just thought it would be cool.
I don't have any before and after shots of these vehicles , but I got a WIP in the Dakka Painting and Modelling section of a backwards Leman Russ / Vindicator thingy conversion , the parts there mostly came from ebay , stripped etc .
Thanks for the kind comments guys , MORE spraying to do !
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Post by: Bonecrusher 6
I've always had something of a problem with the shiney, bold colors that the usual SM's have. I can understand it in some cases, but not on the ground. I love the camo scheme. Hard-used and gritty is an excellent description. I know I've never seen a pretty troop after a day or two in the field.
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Post by: Jimsolo
I like the camo design, and I absolutely love how you've used the weathering to conceal the wear and tear to the secondhand models. Very clever!
That being said, I don't like camo on Space Marines. (Except scouts.) I think that camouflage runs counter to the heraldric feel of the Space Marines. Like your knights of old, the bold colors are purposeful. The complaint I hear from realists is that being in such bright colors would make you a target, but that's kind of the point. Space Marines are supposed to be the knights with banners flying, ribbons streaming from their armored steeds. The guys in brownish clothing, maybe with some dirt on their faces to blend in with the hills, those are the archers. (Or the Imperial Guard, in this case.) And yes, I understand that this dynamic is unrealistic, but so is every other aspect of the 40k setting.
That's just my personal preference though, and I don't think it's one that most people share. (At least not openly.) I think you'll probably get some good reception for this army, since it's different at the very least, and it's very, very well done. Awesome paint job, and awesome conversion work. I hope that when my son gets old enough, he and I have a project like this, too!
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 Jimsolo wrote:I like the camo design, and I absolutely love how you've used the weathering to conceal the wear and tear to the secondhand models. Very clever!
That being said, I don't like camo on Space Marines. (Except scouts.) I think that camouflage runs counter to the heraldric feel of the Space Marines. Like your knights of old, the bold colors are purposeful. The complaint I hear from realists is that being in such bright colors would make you a target, but that's kind of the point. Space Marines are supposed to be the knights with banners flying, ribbons streaming from their armored steeds. The guys in brownish clothing, maybe with some dirt on their faces to blend in with the hills, those are the archers. (Or the Imperial Guard, in this case.) And yes, I understand that this dynamic is unrealistic, but so is every other aspect of the 40k setting.
That's just my personal preference though, and I don't think it's one that most people share. (At least not openly.) I think you'll probably get some good reception for this army, since it's different at the very least, and it's very, very well done. Awesome paint job, and awesome conversion work. I hope that when my son gets old enough, he and I have a project like this, too!
I totally agree with all you've said , just I like dirty , chipped , worn and haggard !!! :-) Tho of course that could be in red or blue not necessarily camo.
The colour thing is down to personal preference for me , I don't mind a camo painted marine with a Red helmet or white stripe somewhere. I have no problem with "Camouflage is for cowards" either , lets flip that around and say , " Lets not die for our god , but make the enemy die for his " LOL. plus of course most of what we're talking about is utterly made up fairy tale !!
Thanks for the input , your only problem if you start something like this with your son will be keeping a reasonably steady focus , " Dad , do me some Marines , Dad do me some Orks , Dad, those Germans look cool . Dad , what about these Spartans ...... " etc etc
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Post by: Hedgehog
Very nice, you really get an impression that your space marines have been in the field without a refit for a fair while...
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Post by: McNinja
I'm sorry, but these are awesome.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Well executed, I like them.
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Post by: CuddlySquig
Awesome, though the yellow shield might give away that one dreadnought in camo.
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Post by: AegisGrimm
I think it is very well-executed as a paint job, and it also harkens back to the days of Rogue Trader (1st edition - not the RPG), where several published Space Marine armies/models utilized camouflage, explained as an alternate scheme to their Codex color, when the warzone might require it..
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Post by: Big H
 AegisGrimm wrote:I think it is very well-executed as a paint job, and it also harkens back to the days of Rogue Trader (1st edition - not the RPG), where several published Space Marine armies/models utilized camouflage, explained as an alternate scheme to their Codex color, when the warzone might require it..
Absolutely correct ref. Rogue Trader Sir !
I queued up from 3am outside a GW store to get a copy when it was first released , and in those days camo was everywhere ( and peace symbols on marines , and painted on rank and name badges, and lots of crappy slogans that theres no need to go into .....)
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Post by: 40kFSU
Pretty sharp stuff here. If Im not mistaken, there is a marine chapter whose liverly is camoflage. They have a short story in one of the marine novels. I tried it myself, but failed miserably. This army is great, and its cool you and your son can enjoy this together.
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Post by: Barzam
I was having enough trouble keeping to just my one Marine chapter, now I see this and its giving me all sorts of ideas. These are just really well executed.
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
Looks awesome, great weathering and nice militaristic look to them.
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Post by: SJM
Think some of these look ace, like your vehciles.
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Post by: Veldrain
The one chapter I know of that do use camo are The Emporers Warbringers.
I like all of these models, the camo and weathering works perfect. The only drawback, is that a shield drone on the one dreadnought?
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Post by: Big H
Veldrain wrote:The one chapter I know of that do use camo are The Emporers Warbringers.
I like all of these models, the camo and weathering works perfect. The only drawback, is that a shield drone on the one dreadnought?
No , its a reactive armour plate ! Er , ok , yes its a shield drone , my son thinks its cool :-)
is it a problem ?
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Post by: Necroagogo
 Big H wrote:Veldrain wrote:The one chapter I know of that do use camo are The Emporers Warbringers.
I like all of these models, the camo and weathering works perfect. The only drawback, is that a shield drone on the one dreadnought?
No , its a reactive armour plate ! Er , ok , yes its a shield drone , my son thinks its cool :-)
is it a problem ?
It's not a problem - it's a trophy!
I've just ordered a couple of those Puppetswar turrets - very reassuring to see them looking so good in the flesh, so to speak,
As others have said, great work on these guys. Your son's a lucky fella.
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HaHa thanks mate , I got a couple of Dreadnought arms too for a long legged Dread I'm converting and to be honest mate Puppetswar stuff is ok , espiecially if your converting anyway.
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Post by: Formosa
Thats why Camo on marines dont work lol, looks amazing on your tanks but bloby and cluttered on the infantry, shame as your Clearly skilled with the airgun.
Good work though all looks mighty fine, it's not your fault that Camo marine ( and small miniature Camo in general) dont look quite right... Still the best Camo marines I've seen in ages though
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 Formosa wrote:Thats why Camo on marines dont work lol, looks amazing on your tanks but bloby and cluttered on the infantry, shame as your Clearly skilled with the airgun.
Good work though all looks mighty fine, it's not your fault that Camo marine ( and small miniature Camo in general) dont look quite right... Still the best Camo marines I've seen in ages though
I think you're right about the infantry , at the minute , all of them are a bit lacking as I did 10 scouts , 10 terminators and about 30 marines in a week and TBH I can't paint that fast , my boy wanted them quick so he could go save the universe.
The problem is getting the pattern fine enough to look 'in scale' even on a fantasy miniature. I'm not entirely sure my basic airbrush will go fine enough for marines (Badger 200) tho its ok for now on vehicles , I'm certainly not one of these whizz-kid graphic designers who can drawn with their airbrushes ,
I want to get some better ones done , so Sir , I shall take that as a challenge !
Anybody ever tried camo with an airbrush on GW figures ?
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Post by: wspatterson
Reasonable Marines! :-)
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Post by: Typhus the Betrayer
This camo scheme is really cool. The blending works pretty well. I think the pics of the infantry are a tad blurry, however.
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Post by: Slimsworkshop
Awesome work sir! Please keep posting pics as you complete more models, I'd love to see a photo of the full force painted up!
As for the "camouflage is the color of cowardice" comments, I couldn't help but notice the British redcoats seem to have thought the same thing during the American revolutionary war... The finest trained and best equipped army in the world (at the time) got sent packing buy a bunch of farmers with sense enough to wear drab colors and take advantage of natural cover.... paint your models what ever color you prefer on the tabletop (I love the Blood Angels color scheme), but don't pretend there is any real-world justification for marching off to war dressed like the world's most flamboyant drill team.
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Post by: More Dakka
The quote that I brought up was just a bit of fun, not meant as any kind of criticism, it's from one of the HH books, or one of the SM books, I can't remember, but I do remember when I read it that I actually LOLed.
Btw, Big H where are more pics!?
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My reply was intended to be a bit of fun as well, I apologize if it came across as snarky!
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Post by: Losteriksson
Nicely done very weathered and war torn and I say that as someone who is a fan of bright red SMs 
As an old boy the first thing Space marines in camo brought to my mind was this classic
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Post by: Big H
More Dakka wrote:The quote that I brought up was just a bit of fun, not meant as any kind of criticism, it's from one of the HH books, or one of the SM books, I can't remember, but I do remember when I read it that I actually LOLed.
Btw, Big H where are more pics!?
One of the drawbacks of the electric message , I can assure you my reply was in jest too ! I do this for fun , not for profit or seriousness !
I have alot of WIP , check out my P&M Backwards Leman Russ Vindicator ! Automatically Appended Next Post:  Slimsworkshop wrote:
My reply was intended to be a bit of fun as well, I apologize if it came across as snarky!
Again , no problems , I'm here for fun too ! Its interesting to here what people think of a semi realistic paint scheme on blatant non functioning fantasy !
Don't mention the ( Revolutionary ) War ! Automatically Appended Next Post: Losteriksson wrote:Nicely done very weathered and war torn and I say that as someone who is a fan of bright red SMs
As an old boy the first thing Space marines in camo brought to my mind was this classic
Yeah ! There the bad boys I was brought up on too , before GW went "Red" !!! Automatically Appended Next Post: Red as in the colour , not the political veiw point !!
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Post by: TheLionOfTheForest
Probably the best marine camo I have seen.
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Post by: alarmingrick
Your SM look fantastic!
When I read the topic, my first thought was:
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Thanks very much , I'm pretty bogged down with armour at the minute, but gonna start on some Infantry real soon. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Yeah , thats perfect !!!!
I can only weep at the amount of time and effort I'm going to invest in trying to reproduce that cam ........
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Post by: thantanoss
Great, they look like real veterans to me.
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Post by: frozenmilk
Everything looks great! I like the conversions and head swaps, they're great for adding character to an army. Keep up the great work!
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Post by: Big H
Thanks for all the encouragement guys , but unfortunately work has now got in the way , I"ll be away two weeks but hopefully I'll take a few marines with me and have something to post on return !
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Post by: Frazzled
Big H wrote: Formosa wrote:Thats why Camo on marines dont work lol, looks amazing on your tanks but bloby and cluttered on the infantry, shame as your Clearly skilled with the airgun.
Good work though all looks mighty fine, it's not your fault that Camo marine ( and small miniature Camo in general) dont look quite right... Still the best Camo marines I've seen in ages though
I think you're right about the infantry , at the minute , all of them are a bit lacking as I did 10 scouts , 10 terminators and about 30 marines in a week and TBH I can't paint that fast , my boy wanted them quick so he could go save the universe.
The problem is getting the pattern fine enough to look 'in scale' even on a fantasy miniature. I'm not entirely sure my basic airbrush will go fine enough for marines (Badger 200) tho its ok for now on vehicles , I'm certainly not one of these whizz-kid graphic designers who can drawn with their airbrushes ,
I want to get some better ones done , so Sir , I shall take that as a challenge !
Anybody ever tried camo with an airbrush on GW figures ?
INstead of camo you might consider using a drab set of colors. Think olive drab or khaki. Shoulder plate edges and insignia that you might paint in bright colors would be done in a darker hue of the same color (olive drab with dark green insignia).
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Post by: Godeth
Great work. Nothing wrong with giveng a space marine forca realistic look. I have done a simalr thing with my own chapter. Keep it up.
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Post by: ragingmunkyz
Camo Marines!? HERESY! *BLAM*
They look great though, especially the vehicles where you can really see the camo scheme more clearly.
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Post by: cadbren
When your painted tanks look like they can happily drive through walls, you know you're doing it right. Loving the look of the scouts too. Your guy with the twin plasma pistols reminds me of Van Zan from the film 'Reign of Fire'.
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Post by: Reaper6
For your consideration, a 3 image montage from the Rogue Trader rulebook :
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Post by: Maniac_nmt
Very nice cammo on your marines. The weathering on the tanks really sets them off.
I'd enjoy playing against such a well painted and designed army as opposed to the usual run of the mill marines.
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Post by: Tyr Grimtooth
Great camo work, but what really sets it apart is the combination of the camo and the weathering.
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Post by: MattRendar
love them great work ! great job on the scouts .
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Post by: Nafarious
These looks awesome. i think you did a great job. I want to say this is the first "camo" space marines I have ever seen. They look great.
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Post by: Fattimus_maximus
HERESY!!! but no, it looks great!
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Post by: Big H
Hi peeps , back from work with a little bit of camo goodness for your observations and comments.... Automatically Appended Next Post: cadbren wrote:When your painted tanks look like they can happily drive through walls, you know you're doing it right. Loving the look of the scouts too. Your guy with the twin plasma pistols reminds me of Van Zan from the film 'Reign of Fire'.
Ha , thanks mate , Van Zan ? Yup ! I never noticed till now , how cool is that ? ! ? Automatically Appended Next Post:  Reaper6 wrote:For your consideration, a 3 image montage from the Rogue Trader rulebook :
Old skool goodness when camo dare speak its name ........ !!!!!! :-)
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Post by: Marty5
Sweet stuff. I still don't know how you do the weathering. For example, the tech marine's servo arm... Is it brush work?
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Post by: Dronze
All marines utilize some form of camoflague... the hands of alpharius and omegon are everywhere.
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Post by: Big H
Marty5 wrote:Sweet stuff. I still don't know how you do the weathering. For example, the tech marine's servo arm... Is it brush work?
Thanks mate , yes I use a fine brush and a really dark grey paint , this is applied to the edges of plates / raised areas and places where it would naturally get knocked or rubbed .
It helps to highlight the edges of the chips with a light mix of the original colour you are applying it to.
Or on really fine chips highlight the base colour first then apply the chipping or you will do your head in !
I have tried stippling brushes and sponge techniques , but never felt they looked as good as doing it with a really pointed brush , tho on large vehicles such as LandRaiders a bit of sponge work with additional brush work saves a lot of time !
Does that make sense ? Hope that helps ! Automatically Appended Next Post: Dronze wrote:All marines utilize some form of camoflague... the hands of alpharius and omegon are everywhere.
Sorry dude , thats lost on me ! Alpharius is a Chaos geezer right ? Who's Omegon ? 
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Post by: Void_walker
I really like them, reminds me of Raptors
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Post by: Marty5
Yup, great advice. Thanks.
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Post by: Nem
Really nice, love to see ebay ressurections
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 Nem wrote:Really nice, love to see ebay ressurections
Thanks Nem , I'm in a good position where I have a large , well stocked workshop and can fill a couple of large coffee jars or an ice cream tub with brake fluid and strip paint off of pretty much anything !
Oh and a well stocked bitz box is handy too !
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Post by: keltikhoa
Alpharius and Omegon, Twin primarchs of the Alpha Legion. Praise the dark gods
Nice camo work. The vehicles are impressive and while the marines are not quite as camo'd I like them too.
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 keltikhoa wrote:Alpharius and Omegon, Twin primarchs of the Alpha Legion. Praise the dark gods
Nice camo work. The vehicles are impressive and while the marines are not quite as camo'd I like them too.
Ahhhh , thanks for the Info , and the comment , I'm going to try some sprayed cam on marines when the finer needle I ordered turns up for my single action air brush , I know single actions are SOOOOO yesterday , but I get on with it well enough . I might buy a double action if I can find a good , cheap one on ebay !
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Just got these two finished after a long work delay , fairly pleased with how they've turned out tho would still like to improve my airbrush shading and the chipping effect. However , I reckon they're good enough for the table top.
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Not overly impressed with my photography skills at the minute , will try harder next time !
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Post by: More Dakka
Awesome, really intimidating looking tanks! Definitely above TTQ I'd say.
The problem you're having looks like focus, I think you're too far away to use a macro function, but too close to focus the normal lens.
If you do them individually it will probably be easier to get that sweet spot.
I also like to use a photo editor to bring the background back up to the white that it looks like to your eye. That's my hackney colour correction but I think it's effective.
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Post by: thesilverback
Love the land raiders. The conversions are great and a very cool paint job.
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Post by: Big H
More Dakka wrote:Awesome, really intimidating looking tanks! Definitely above TTQ I'd say.
The problem you're having looks like focus, I think you're too far away to use a macro function, but too close to focus the normal lens.
If you do them individually it will probably be easier to get that sweet spot.
I also like to use a photo editor to bring the background back up to the white that it looks like to your eye. That's my hackney colour correction but I think it's effective.
Thanks for the tips , I'll try it out with my "Johny Aged 3 1/4 " camera when I post next !
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Post by: Kal-El
The vehicles look really neat. One of the better camo jobs I have seen. The only thing that stand out to me (and just my preference) is the stark yellows, reds, and whites. Military vehicles usually have a subdued look on the logs/flash etc. Meaning that instead of the bold colors on the drab colors, they would use different color browns/tans/greens etc. Might make those parts stick out less.
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Post by: keltikhoa
Kal-El wrote:The vehicles look really neat. One of the better camo jobs I have seen. The only thing that stand out to me (and just my preference) is the stark yellows, reds, and whites. Military vehicles usually have a subdued look on the logs/flash etc. Meaning that instead of the bold colors on the drab colors, they would use different color browns/tans/greens etc. Might make those parts stick out less.
While I agree about the military vehicles would use less bright colors for icon, I think the weathered yellows works quite well on these. It may not be real world functional but it does add just the right splash of contrast/character to the vehicles. It all comes down to personal preference I suppose.
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Post by: Lysenis
Jimsolo wrote:I like the camo design, and I absolutely love how you've used the weathering to conceal the wear and tear to the secondhand models. Very clever!
That being said, I don't like camo on Space Marines. (Except scouts.) I think that camouflage runs counter to the heraldric feel of the Space Marines. Like your knights of old, the bold colors are purposeful. The complaint I hear from realists is that being in such bright colors would make you a target, but that's kind of the point. Space Marines are supposed to be the knights with banners flying, ribbons streaming from their armored steeds. The guys in brownish clothing, maybe with some dirt on their faces to blend in with the hills, those are the archers. (Or the Imperial Guard, in this case.) And yes, I understand that this dynamic is unrealistic, but so is every other aspect of the 40k setting.
That's just my personal preference though, and I don't think it's one that most people share. (At least not openly.) I think you'll probably get some good reception for this army, since it's different at the very least, and it's very, very well done. Awesome paint job, and awesome conversion work. I hope that when my son gets old enough, he and I have a project like this, too!
I counter this with the fact that chapters these days (in the current known fluff) seem to be losing many of their marines. Maybe this chapter has suffered such losses that it needs to use this to its advantage.
Also note that not all chapters are bright some use dark colors to hide in darkness (a form of camo at work) and to infiltrate easier.
I love this. The fact that you are doing something that somany shy away from is something I love seeing and you sir have done a WONDERFUL job!
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Post by: Viersche
Nice job on the camo painting, although got to wonder about camo on the dread, that thing makes enough sound to wake the dead just by moving 
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 Viersche wrote:Nice job on the camo painting, although got to wonder about camo on the dread, that thing makes enough sound to wake the dead just by moving
He stands still a lot ! Automatically Appended Next Post: ! I counter this with the fact that chapters these days (in the current known fluff) seem to be losing many of their marines. Maybe this chapter has suffered such losses that it needs to use this to its advantage.
Also note that not all chapters are bright some use dark colors to hide in darkness (a form of camo at work) and to infiltrate easier.
I love this. The fact that you are doing something that somany shy away from is something I love seeing and you sir have done a WONDERFUL job!
Thats a cool idea , I'll have to get around to writing some fluff incorporating that !
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Post by: Cave_Dweller
Great looking army you got going here, nice and filthy, Marines who work for a living, not spending their time polishing their primary-colored powered armor. Lovin it!
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Post by: Gorgrimm
Love the army so far.
As far as anyone telling you that space marines can't wear camo, tell them to go back to First Edition. Yes I'm talking about Rogue Trader, I still have books with Space Wolves marines in camo hiding on a ridge to ambush orks, Mantis Warriors, etc.
They're looking great. keep it up!
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HaHa, Yeah I remember queuing outside a GW store for a slowed amount of hours so I could buy a copy of the 1st Edition. It's full of camo pics !!
I'm of the opinion that its my hobby and I can do as I like ( within certain , sensible guidlines ) and if I fancy a drop of camo paint then the rest can shove it !
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Post by: 2x210
Really cool, love the vehicles
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Thanks mate , gotta admit I find vehicles way easier to convert and paint than figures.
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Love the paint job and weathering, the camo works really well
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First go at OSL on my Librarian , what do you think ?
I concentrated on the hood instead of adding light from the Staff and plasma pistol as well , which was only gonna mess with my head.
Comments and CRITISMS wanted please !
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Also got a few of the excellent Anvil Industries Black Ops guys done , I really like these , might dispense entirely with GW Space Marine legs and bodies and just use parts added to the Anvil stuff......
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Post by: BrotherOfBone
Wow! These are all really excellent mate, I'm sure your lad is very proud and pleased ;D
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 BrotherOfBone wrote:Wow! These are all really excellent mate, I'm sure your lad is very proud and pleased ;D
Thanks mate , there's a good chance the Anvil Industries stuff might stay in my box till he's a bit older , he can have the GW stuff !
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Post by: jpwyrm
Those Anvil Industry lads looks awesome! Do you paint them using airbrush or only a conventionnal brush? Also, could you share the painting recipe for the infantry?
Great job, keep them coming!
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 jpwyrm wrote:Those Anvil Industry lads looks awesome! Do you paint them using airbrush or only a conventionnal brush? Also, could you share the painting recipe for the infantry?
Great job, keep them coming!
Thanks mate , I'm definitely getting some more , they look really cool mixed up with GW parts.
I will be trying to paint the next lot as much as possible with my airbrush , I only applied the base coat on these guys then did the rest with normal brushes.
The recipe is fairly simple , after a white primer I airbrushed on some thin Tamiya Desert Yellow. Then a bit of a shading pin wash of Argrax Earthshade with some German Grey in it thinned down alittle , then 2 or 3 progressively lighter shades of the Desert Yellow , then some edge chips in German Grey and a final light Desert Yellow to tidy up and highlight some of the chips.
The weapons were the same as the armour and washed in Tamiya NATO Brown, then chipped , and the equipment was a mix of Olive Green and Light Grey to make a Sage green type colour.
Simples !
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Stormlord done ! Just a couple of LandRaiders and a Fellblade to finish for a Apocalypse game in the summer.
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And now have a Chapter Master ( until the boy changes his mind again of course.......)
With my clumsy attempts at OSL
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Post by: ghostmaker
Love it all. You make me want to do a whole black ops army. Very impressive
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 ghostmaker wrote:Love it all. You make me want to do a whole black ops army. Very impressive
LOL , thanks mate . Do it ! I'm gonna make up about 15 or 20 as reinforcements for my boys GW figures.
If Anvil expand the Black Ops range to include separate torso's , vehicles etc we might switch over entirely !
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Post by: Godeth
Great work, loving the realistic theme and use of Tau parts here and there.
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Thanks buddy , its all starting to look pretty good now its building into quite a large force , just getting tired of so many paint chips !
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Post by: ghostmaker
I love this, You have made me want to buy some of the BLACK OPS Exo-Lords. So did you just do leg and head swaps and add a few GW bits?
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ghostmaker wrote:I love this, You have made me want to buy some of the BLACK OPS Exo-Lords. So did you just do leg and head swaps and add a few GW bits?
I think they turn out pretty good too !
I bought the Black Ops fire team and the "suppressor" squad with auto cannon. Then just added a few GW bits , backpacks for no other reason than to tie them with our other figures and the Catachan heads , cos I like them !
I'd really like to refine my airbrush technique so that I can spray on camo stripes , I'm not keen on brush painted cam , but getting the stripes believably fine enough is proving hard !!!
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People viewing my page made 10 000 today !!! I'm well chuffed with that ! as long as they liked it that is
Anyhow , thanks for looking and especially to those who posted !
Hopefully have a Jump pack Assault squad up soon !
With that in mind , I leave it to you people , ref. Assault Squad , Desert yellow armour like the Black Ops guys , desert yellow with German Grey stripes (brushed not sprayed, I'm away from my airbrush) or desert yellow with olive green 'pea dot' pattern like the Heavy Bolter guy ?
Thanks again !!! Automatically Appended Next Post: Lets here some opinions on the cam style !
I'm about ready to start !!!!!
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Post by: MWHistorian
As a former army grunt, this makes me happy. Love the camo and the effects. Makes me want to do a new SM chapter in my old desert camo scheme or the newer ACU pattern. Oh, the possibilities. The yellow shield, is that from a real unit? Looks almost like a cav patch.
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Hey fella , same dust different army !
Do it mate , far too many bright things wondering around. ACU might be tricky in this scale tho , random pea dot type cam is all I can manage.
I made the shield up after a few glasses of good red wine !!!
What do you reckon for the Assault Squad ? Plain Desert yellow , with grey stripes similar to the vehicles or green pea dots ?
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Post by: Fotherington-Thomas
Losteriksson wrote:Nicely done very weathered and war torn and I say that as someone who is a fan of bright red SMs
As an old boy the first thing Space marines in camo brought to my mind was this classic
How many of these lot have come to a sticky end?
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Post by: Aerethan
Holy hell that is excellent painting. I love the scratches down to the "primer" and the weathering in general, as well as the cohesive camo patterning.
Damn fine work.
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 Fotherington-Thomas wrote:Losteriksson wrote:Nicely done very weathered and war torn and I say that as someone who is a fan of bright red SMs
As an old boy the first thing Space marines in camo brought to my mind was this classic
How many of these lot have come to a sticky end?
I have no idea !!!!! Automatically Appended Next Post:  Aerethan wrote:Holy hell that is excellent painting. I love the scratches down to the "primer" and the weathering in general, as well as the cohesive camo patterning.
Damn fine work.[/quote
Thanks mate , the chipping is a little tedious but it looks ok at the end !
Hardest part is getting the colour shades consistent , I shade the vehicles with my airbrush but after a couple of glass's it sometimes goes slightly "off" ! Automatically Appended Next Post: Anyone want to state a preference for camo scheme on the Assault marines ?
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Hi all , got a Jump pack Assault Squad finished , they look "OK-ish " but they just don't seem to "pop" like the other stuff has , not sure whats wrong , need some CRITICISM here fellas !
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Post by: Barzam
did you do the camo differently? It looks like you've got the grey over a black basecoat. It didn't seem like the previous ones did that and that might be why they're standing out a bit more. I think they look good though and I'm sure your son is going to have a blast with them.
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 Barzam wrote:did you do the camo differently? It looks like you've got the grey over a black basecoat. It didn't seem like the previous ones did that and that might be why they're standing out a bit more. I think they look good though and I'm sure your son is going to have a blast with them.
Hi mate , yes the camo was all brush painted right from the beginning , 4 with white primer 4 on black primer that had been hanging around from when my eldest son played ( he used black primer )
Usually I prefer white primer and start with my airbrush , but as I'm currently away from home working I couldn't .
The 'Grey" is actually my usual Panzer grey , it seemed ALOT darker when brush painted instead of airbrushed so I added a very simple highlight to it.
Painting semantics aside, yes , I think the boy will find a use for them !
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Post by: wikkedj
I really like those, some of the marine heads have inspired me as well!
The weathering and damage on the vehicles is just fantastic if you ask me.
Keep up the great work.
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Thanks mate , I've found in the last 6 months or so of my "return" to painting I've improved a lot so thanks for the kind words !
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Post by: Dreadclaw69
Not many, most of them still exist in one form or another.
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Thanks for that DreadClaw69 , i had no idea !
That late 80's camo looks proper bonkers doesn't it ?
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Post by: Norse
fantastic stuff, love it! Would dearly love to see you do an IG army tho!
What paints and airbrush are you using? I'd like to give this a go and happen to have a new airbrush waiting in my garage! :-)
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Norse wrote:fantastic stuff, love it! Would dearly love to see you do an IG army tho!
What paints and airbrush are you using? I'd like to give this a go and happen to have a new airbrush waiting in my garage! :-)
Thanks mate !
After a few zombie experiments I'm thinking of getting some Nurgle Traitor Guard together ( I've started a Nurgle WIP tho its been slow), I'm doing
them worn and haggard rather than tentacles and slime , I'm ALMOST positive!
Also fairly interested in doing some of those plastic Eisenkern Stormtroopers as I.G stormtroopers , but again , lots of marines to do first !
Paint wise its really simple , all the colours on the vehicles or power armour are mainly just shades of Tamiya desert yellow or Vallejo Panzer Grey. Details are picked out in whatever seems suitable. Simples !
I tend to use white primer and really dark colours thinned a lot to help start the shading process.
My airbrush is nothing fancy , its a Badger 200 , its single action but i find its ok for vehicles and big colours on troops , haven't really got the skills for the finer stuff or big pieces of freehand (yet). Keep you paint thin and watch for lumps and bits in your paint ( which block the nozzle and will drive you crazy) and you'll be fine.
The only way to get good is to practise like crazy buddy ! Use it to prime stuff until you get the feel of it then give it a go !
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Post by: Norse
that's a good idea.. work out how the damned thing works with primer first, before I attempt urban camo.. LOL
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Yeah man , then try stencils , masking tape , spraying thru mesh to leave patterns etc etc !
I did a lot on the side of a primed cardboard box before I went near models.....
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Post by: Ayemee
Wow. These are amazing!
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Hi Ayemee , thanks very much !
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Post by: gretar
To be honest I didn't actually expect to like the results of opening this thread as the SM I've seen done with camo have usually been way over done, sometimes using 4-5 different colors or doing them with digital camo all over, but these are something ver different.
They look very good, and I look forward to seeing more!
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gretar wrote:To be honest I didn't actually expect to like the results of opening this thread as the SM I've seen done with camo have usually been way over done, sometimes using 4-5 different colors or doing them with digital camo all over, but these are something ver different.
They look very good, and I look forward to seeing more!
HaHa , thanks mate , I'll try to keep it at 2 -3 colours !!!
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Post by: Bonecrusher 6
I think what throws the assault marines off a bit is the lines of gray. It didn't look to me like that was a really common theme on anything else except for the vehicles. The grays and blacks were more in the nature of shadows and wear rather than camo design. Or so I thought, anyway.
By the way, I'm left torn over the take on what looks to be the "chocolate chip" camo scheme that I thought I saw. I kinda like it, but I think that's because of the uniforms from Desert Storm.
Over all, though, I have to say I really like the scheme. Your Marines have the look of men who have been hammered on the crucible of warfare, are worn in body and soul, but are still full of the righteous fury of their fight. These actually look like Marines that have been on the sharp end for a long campaign, and, while I have seen a lot of beautiful parade-ground color schemes on this site, yours win in my book.
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@Bonecrusher6 , yeah , I think the grey stripes were a mistake , should've stuck with plain desert yellow or the "pea dot" cam ( a bit like Choc chip cam, but green ....)
I appreciate your last comment , its the look I was going for , and I hate parade ground shiny. So , thanks very much !
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Devastators done , I'm fairly happy , OSL will be my next skill to get reasonable at !
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So , comments and CRITICISMS please !
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Post by: fullmetaljacket
Great job! always nice to see some camo on the board!
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Thanks mate , I was a little unsure at first but now I think they look pretty smart altogether , one of these days I'll have to post some pics of the whole lot !
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Post by: nerdfest09
You know what i think really 'makes' these marines? it's the expert use of colours, the light blue turquoise for the glow and the lenses is the perfect choice for the more subdued armour and it makes them really look something special, I've enjoyed everything so far and am looking forward to even more!
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Why thank you NerdFest, modesty prevents me from accepting the "expert" title, but its very gratifying non the less !
There will indeed be a whole lot more to come !
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Post by: N7_Rik
You have done the camo really well, not like.. OTT or anything. The sniper guys are my favourite. Great job c:
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Thanks mate , the snipers are fairly nice TBH , I ought to get around doing the pics again now I'm a little better at photography !
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Post by: Stephanius
More Dakka wrote:"Camouflage is the colour of cowardice" -Some Space Marine Guy -M39.891
But in all honesty I really like this, great overall scheme, execution and especially weathering! I like that grungy hard beaten look they all have!
These models look really great. I'm guessing you are using airbrush for the camo, as far as I can see without masking. As others have said, your weathering is great, it makes the models look so much more believable, especially combined with the more sensible color scheme.
I've refused to paint hazard stripes on my Iron Warriors. "Watch out for my chain sword edge, it's dangerous!" seems a bit counter-productive. Of course one can always argue the shock value of Astartes in your face, even if they are sporting bright pink with bunny ears. That shouldn't apply in any serious engagement, since both xenos and other space marines are quite unlikely to be susceptible to said Astartes-phobia. ;-]
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@ Stephanius , thanks mate , yes , airbrush for the vehicles without any masking to get that nice "soft" edge.
I've just got a smaller needle for my airbrush so will be trying it on some figures in a week or two as well.
Good point about the yellow and black hazard stripes , other than showing the skill level of the painter they are incredibly pointless !
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I'm largely done with these , there are a few highlights on the bronze colours missing , as I don't have the paint ATM. And probably a few more details I'll add later , but for now, working under a crappy desk lamp that attracts all the midges for miles around on a wonky chair , these will do !
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Post by: Largeblastmarker
Green is cool choice of color for Osl for these guys. It isn't exactly complementary so it clashes with the armor a bit. In fact these are close colors on the color wheel (i like talking about the color wheel) so that they really pop next to each other. Otherwise you have the effect basically down.My suggestion is to darken down some of the more mid areas of the glow like you did on the power axe (maybe with a glaze).
Very interesting blog; subbed
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Thanks for the comments Largeblastmarker , I'm aware of the colour wheel and of how colours compliment or clash but I have to admit I just choose the green/blue OSL because I thought it looked cool !
Thanks for the tip , as most of my technique / style is basically glazes and washes ( for everything not just OSL) I'll do as you suggest , I really want to nail "realistic" OSL and then work on my skin tones , which I feel is a weak area too.
I"m much more comfortable with armour, next couple of Landraiders / Baneblade will get some proper colour modulation effects going on !
Thanks for the sub ! Hope you like whats coming !
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Post by: suspiratus
Great work and brilliant idea Something different
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Thanks for the comments , Magda. You have some pretty nice work yourself !
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Post by: licclerich
well executed....as you probs know SM were camo back in the day!!!!!
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licclerich wrote:well executed....as you probs know SM were camo back in the day!!!!!
Thanks , glad you like them !
Dude , "back in the day" I was queing outside of the local Games Workshop store at 2am just to get hold of the Rogue Trader rules , Marines and Orks boxsets on the day of release !
So yes I am aware !
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Post by: radioaktivemann
Awesome stuff!
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Post by: Asherian Command
I like. Subbed.
Also really liking the Anvil Stuff!
Also you can contact Anvil Industry and ask him if he has any plans to adding torsos on his black-ops stuff. He probably say no. But he does have steam lords with multiple sets of torsos.
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@radioaktivemann and Asherian Command , thanks guys.
I've asked Joel at Anvil to make the Black Ops bodies separate from the legs as I really have to pose each mini differently but he's in no rush to cast them up. I'll just have to make do for a bit till I use up all the possible options I suppose.
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Post by: Rippy
You are an incredible painter, they do look real. Very well done.
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Post by: bobtheoverlord
Your models are looking amazing and i could never do what you have, but you seem to be after some criticism.
I am no expert painter, but what I think really makes your models 'pop' is the physical grit and dirt you had on the first few. Your later models have been very smooth, albeit with amazing weathering, but they are not as gritty as before. Maybe making them more so will make them 'pop' even more.
Just my two cents though. I might be completely lost......
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Post by: Big H
 bobtheoverlord wrote:Your models are looking amazing and i could never do what you have, but you seem to be after some criticism.
I am no expert painter, but what I think really makes your models 'pop' is the physical grit and dirt you had on the first few. Your later models have been very smooth, albeit with amazing weathering, but they are not as gritty as before. Maybe making them more so will make them 'pop' even more.
Just my two cents though. I might be completely lost......
Dude , if you have two hands and two eyes you can do what I have ! Honestly, I am no artist or college boy , if you knew all the jobs I'd done you wouldn't think twice about "Yeah , I can do that" in fact , thats how I taught myself, with the military modelling magazines thinking "Yeah , I could do that"
I'm afraid the gaming magazines generally offer poor painting advise compared to the military stuff.
You have a point , its something I had noticed too , I will work harder on my grit and dirt !
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Post by: CloudRider
Very cool
Now try to imagine camo on Chaos marines with there conversion capability,
That is where true happiness will lie
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CloudRider wrote:Very cool
Now try to imagine camo on Chaos marines with there conversion capability,
That is where true happiness will lie
Why would you plant that seed in my head ?
WHY ?
NurgleCam is coming.......
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Post by: Largeblastmarker
*slowly pulls up chair, turns it backwards. Sits*
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Post by: Col. Dash
Wow nicely done. You picked a scheme that actually looks good on the models. I have tried BDU and Summer Oak camo on marines and it flat out failed. For some reason the darker camo patterns just doesn't cut it on marines, but look fine on Tau and IG. The lighter colored ones usually look great. One of my local guys here also has a Raptors company in a Fall-like pattern and like yours his look good too with all the weathering. I guess the darker patterns just do too good a job on hiding things and they look like ugly blobs.
My only criticism is the OSL and a general peeve with a lot of marine painters with OSL and Sci-fi in general. These guys are camo'd up to be unseen, why would they have they bright lit up eyes and buttons that would give them away? Furthermore, I understand why Hollywood does it(so you can see the actor's face), but really, bright lights inside the helm? Wouldnt that pretty much blind the wearer?
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You raise some interesting points ref. Darker Cam patterns , I've been toying with ideas for Cam on my Nurgle marines and havn't found anything any good yet !
I wholeheartedly agree with you ref. OSL and big lit up weapons , Yes, its beyond dumb , but my son wants them "all glow-y" !
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Post by: Fairmead
Nice and different, love it!
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Post by: To_hell_with_negotiations
Ha-ha great great job, toss something out to the Purists that say "You cant do that"! Lol. I am creating my own chapter that is a expeditionary task force with barrowed vehicles from other chapters and even have a detachment of Tau to boot. I find it funny that the ones that say you cant do this you cant do that usually don't follow there own words when it comes to there army lol. Great job Huzah huzah
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Post by: wolfmerc
im liking the green energy effects, they go along with the color scheme but stand out with just the right amount.
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 To_hell_with_negotiations wrote:Ha-ha great great job, toss something out to the Purists that say "You cant do that"! Lol. I am creating my own chapter that is a expeditionary task force with barrowed vehicles from other chapters and even have a detachment of Tau to boot. I find it funny that the ones that say you cant do this you cant do that usually don't follow there own words when it comes to there army lol. Great job Huzah huzah
Feth the purists mate , mostly they'll 12 and never saw the glory that was Rogue Trader ! Do anything you like as long as it looks the part and has a "reasonable" back story !
Automatically Appended Next Post:  wolfmerc wrote:im liking the green energy effects, they go along with the color scheme but stand out with just the right amount.
Thanks buddy, I was a little scarred I'd gone too far at first as this is the first army I'd really done any OSL type effects on , but now I'm quite liking it !
Thanks for taking the time to comment !
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Post by: boember
Love it! I think I might paint my next army in the same style.
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Ok , ladies and gentlemen , I have been waylaid with the camo marines lately.
But now and for the first time on the tinternet I introduce you to the works of Little H, age 10. Mostly his own work , tho I helped with the sword on the Champion, the rest is his. Logan Grimnar he did one morning whilst I had a lay in !
And the desert board we're intending to game on, I did !
Comments or criticisms please
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Post by: livanbard
Little H rocks.
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Post by: wazrokk
great job on the weathering and camo paint, superb!
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His stuff kicks ass. but you should teach him how to paint white.
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Thanks very much for the comments fellas, Little H is well chuffed , tho we haven't quite got to the stage of formulated paint effects just yet , he's still very into "free form experimentation" at the minute !
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You've done a great job.
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Managed to get a few bits and pieces finshed to round out my lads units.
I really like how the Anvil Industries Black Ops minis turn out.
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Post by: Largeblastmarker
wow, those look excellent!
my favorite is the guy with the auto-cannon type bit on the bottom picture.
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Post by: Da krimson barun
Reasonable marines.That is the only thing that describes them.
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 Largeblastmarker wrote:wow, those look excellent!
my favorite is the guy with the auto-cannon type bit on the bottom picture.
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Big H wrote: Largeblastmarker wrote:wow, those look excellent!
my favorite is the guy with the auto-cannon type bit on the bottom picture.
Thanks mate , auto cannon guy is a mix of GW body ( icon filed off ) and backpack with Anvil legs , arms/weapon and head. Looks pretty smart eh ?
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Go on 14dchan.Its a compliment...If you like HERESY.
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Post by: Knockagh
Well done sir! Look properly military, really like marines with a military look. Am not so much into the tinsel marines or ones in bright gaudy colours.
I have to admit I have never bought second hand models and this would give me courage to give it a go. Always afraid I would waste time, which when it comes to our hobby can be as precious as g
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Well done sir! Look properly military, really like marines with a military look. Am not so much into the tinsel marines or ones in bright gaudy colours.
I have to admit I have never bought second hand models and this would give me courage to give it a go. Always afraid I would waste time, which when it comes to our hobby can be as precious as gold! But must give it a go, excellent finish.
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Da krimson barun wrote: Big H wrote: Largeblastmarker wrote:wow, those look excellent!
my favorite is the guy with the auto-cannon type bit on the bottom picture.
Thanks mate , auto cannon guy is a mix of GW body ( icon filed off ) and backpack with Anvil legs , arms/weapon and head. Looks pretty smart eh ?
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Go on 14dchan.Its a compliment...If you like HERESY.
HaHa , just checked 14dchan out !! Yeah , I'm a Reasonable Marine !
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Post by: fleetwolf
They look absolutely awesome!! I love it! how have you achieved the desert camo look??
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Knockagh wrote:Well done sir! Look properly military, really like marines with a military look. Am not so much into the tinsel marines or ones in bright gaudy colours.
I have to admit I have never bought second hand models and this would give me courage to give it a go. Always afraid I would waste time, which when it comes to our hobby can be as precious as g
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Well done sir! Look properly military, really like marines with a military look. Am not so much into the tinsel marines or ones in bright gaudy colours.
I have to admit I have never bought second hand models and this would give me courage to give it a go. Always afraid I would waste time, which when it comes to our hobby can be as precious as gold! But must give it a go, excellent finish.
Second hand stuff can be a real pain , at a minimum you'll be removing moldlines and stuff, sometimes they'll be assembled REALLY badly , tho then its lends themselves to green stuff and dremelling for Chaos use !
Sometimes tho you can drop lucky and everything works out , it really depends on how much actual spare time you have to correct things ! Automatically Appended Next Post:  fleetwolf wrote:They look absolutely awesome!! I love it! how have you achieved the desert camo look??
The colour is various tones of Tamiya Desert Yellow , and really thats about it !
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Post by: Jonesyboy12
Love it. I love camo on anything tho but you painted those real well. 9/10
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 Jonesyboy12 wrote:Love it. I love camo on anything tho but you painted those real well. 9/10
Thanks very much mate !
However , despite my best efforts (so I wasn't painting 24/7 and not getting anywhere...) , my lads interest has wandered off to WHFB and Dwarves.
It just not fair , they'll look rubbish is Tamiya Desert Yellow.
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After an age , I finished the bases and final highlights on these two.
I like the signals officer , going to use the wrist mounted auspex idea stolen from Veteran Sergeant ( see his blog) more often !
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Post by: whalemusic360
Do you have a back on his front?!?
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On the Signals Officer ? Yeah , I thought the pack mounting would look a bit like some kind of comms interface or something , the "ball" for mounting the pack is shaved of and a skull fitted , tho its hard to see.
It also give a armour neck plate but i had to remove it to get the comms head to fit .......
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Post by: Bronzefists42
I love this old art. Beakies are truly the greatest marines
EDIT: I forgot it was official art not fan art.
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Big H wrote:After an age , I finished the bases and final highlights on these two.
I like the signals officer , going to use the wrist mounted auspex idea stolen from Veteran Sergeant ( see his blog) more often !
The signals officer was incredibly creative. Good job!
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Post by: CoyoteCasket
Awesome painting! The beat to feth and back looks great and leaves the door open for all kinds of cool fluff.
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 Bronzefists42 wrote:
I love this old fan art. Beakies are truly the greatest marines
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Big H wrote:After an age , I finished the bases and final highlights on these two.
I like the signals officer , going to use the wrist mounted auspex idea stolen from Veteran Sergeant ( see his blog) more often !
The signals officer was incredibly creative. Good job!
Funny thing , when Rogue Trader came out i Didn't like the beaky heads much , but I think they look sweet on jump pack guys now !
With the comms officer I just looked at the Forge World one and set about my bits box in a clipper frenzy !!!! Automatically Appended Next Post:  CoyoteCasket wrote:Awesome painting! The beat to feth and back looks great and leaves the door open for all kinds of cool fluff.
Beat to Feth and Back !
Maybe that should be the Second Company's motto !!
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Ladies and Gentlemen , I give you a fairly averagely built and painted LandRaider , its taken 12 months or so from buying it all Blue and Ultramarine-y to getting it finished , I still keep finding mold lines and bits I should have filled , I really began to hate this tank and was really quite pleased to get it done .
On the down side my son said on its triumphant presentation " Don't know why you bothered , I like Dwarves now"
Bugger.
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Post by: CubanNecktie
First thing I thought was this old sweetness from the Red Scorps Angstrom Incident...codex approved no less!
Though I don't know how many battles were fought on the inside of a red lipstick factory.
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 CubanNecktie wrote:First thing I thought was this old sweetness from the Red Scorps Angstrom Incident...codex approved no less!
Though I don't know how many battles were fought on the inside of a red lipstick factory.
Obviously a case of the Chapter HQ trying to think of all eventualities. Better to have it and not need it , than need it and not have it ........!!
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Post by: Mastiff
Absolutely love the camo on these guys. I always thought "Camo is the colour of cowardice" should be the famous last words carved into someone's headstone; probably uttered just before the sniper took them out at 2,500m.
Although I'm wondering if maybe these guys started with white armour, and after a millenia of battle, just really need a good deep clean to be pure white again.
But they look great and I'm always glad to see custom chapters. Kudos on the table as well, looks amazing.
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Big H wrote: " Don't know why you bothered , I like Dwarves now"
Mantic Forgefathers. There's no reason they can't have camouflage and stolen Imperial vehicles.
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Post by: BrotherChaplinMalus
Fotherington-Thomas wrote:Losteriksson wrote:Nicely done very weathered and war torn and I say that as someone who is a fan of bright red SMs
As an old boy the first thing Space marines in camo brought to my mind was this classic
How many of these lot have come to a sticky end?
If i am not mistaken: Mantis warriors where wiped out. The Fire Hawks became the Legion of the Damned. The Tiger Claws where absorbed into the Astral Claws. All 3 of those happened at the Badab War
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Post by: dantay_xv
The Mantis warriors werent wiped out. They eventually surrendered and after Inquisitorial trial were found not guilty of heresy, but for being misled by the Astral Claws.
As pennace for their crimes they were sent out on crusade for something like 100 years, without resupply or being allowed to replace lost brothers.
Their crusade may now be over... not sure need to check the books again when I get home.
The Tiger claws were almost extinct and Lufgt Huron secretly absorbed them into the Astral Claws... Then he secretly embarked on a mission to build the Astral Claws up until they would be Legion sized, but this crime wasnt discovered until well into the Badab war.
BTW I love the camo marines and tanks, they are amazing.
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 Mastiff wrote:Absolutely love the camo on these guys. I always thought "Camo is the colour of cowardice" should be the famous last words carved into someone's headstone; probably uttered just before the sniper took them out at 2,500m.
Although I'm wondering if maybe these guys started with white armour, and after a millenia of battle, just really need a good deep clean to be pure white again.
But they look great and I'm always glad to see custom chapters. Kudos on the table as well, looks amazing.
Yeah , kinda funny , I can't see how any marines spring any successful ambushes in red armour either !
I like the grime on armour idea , maybe I could do some ceremonial dudes in White armour ! Automatically Appended Next Post: Barzam wrote: Big H wrote: " Don't know why you bothered , I like Dwarves now"
Mantic Forgefathers. There's no reason they can't have camouflage and stolen Imperial vehicles.
Too late ! Sold a load of 1990's squats in order to purchase a ready built and painted dwarf army from my FLGS !! All i have to do is make the movement trays !
Those forgefathers are kinda making me wish I'd not sold the squats ........!
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Big H wrote:
On the down side my son said on its triumphant presentation " Don't know why you bothered , I like Dwarves now"
Bugger.
I will be more than happy to be your son now if you like? 
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 nerdfest09 wrote: Big H wrote:
On the down side my son said on its triumphant presentation " Don't know why you bothered , I like Dwarves now"
Bugger.
I will be more than happy to be your son now if you like?
Clean your room !
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Big H wrote: nerdfest09 wrote: Big H wrote:
On the down side my son said on its triumphant presentation " Don't know why you bothered , I like Dwarves now"
Bugger.
I will be more than happy to be your son now if you like?
Clean your room !
*Mutter...Grumble!*..... should've bloody thought that through first shouldn't I!? .............. "yes Dad!"
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Post by: mikeyboy69x
One word 'Epic'.
I love your models, especially the vehicles! I would like to know how long they have taken you to do per vehicle? Certainly looks like a fair while, especially with the weathering and scraps / scratches.
Great work mate.
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 mikeyboy69x wrote:One word 'Epic'.
I love your models, especially the vehicles! I would like to know how long they have taken you to do per vehicle? Certainly looks like a fair while, especially with the weathering and scraps / scratches.
Great work mate.
Thanks mate , off the top of my head I don't think I ever sat down and completed a vehicle from start to finish, I have the attention span of a goldfish and do bits and pieces here and there as the whim takes me. I think between two weeks and 12 months !!!!
The chips take a while , using the sponge method on corners and high wear areas speeds it up when combined with brushwork but still takes a night or two per vehicle .
Weathering / grime / rust and pin washes are a lot quicker now I've gone back to oil paint washes on gloss varnish instead of pure acrylics.
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Yup , very Reasonable.
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Finished this LandRaider tonight , been ongoing for at least 18 months on and (mostly) off.
Fairly happy with it. Still very much learning the way with airbrush OSL. I cheated abit in places and used a brush !
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wow. I think ill go back and repaint the cloaks on my scouts...
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NonameAI wrote:wow. I think ill go back and repaint the cloaks on my scouts...
You can never have too much camo .....!
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Big H wrote:Also got a few of the excellent Anvil Industries Black Ops guys done , I really like these , might dispense entirely with GW Space Marine legs and bodies and just use parts added to the Anvil stuff......
I am in love with these guys. Everything about them. These guys alone makes me want to collect space marines and just copy exactly what you did. Their guns, gear, armor and headbands.
It's like taking the space marines out of their legendary sci-fi setting and making them much more real. It always bothered me that the standard marines were so devoid of gear! Where do they keep their ammo?
The guns alone add so much more flavor. I don't have anything against the classic bolter except that the current design is starting to feel old.
Keep up the great work!
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Post by: Johnnytorrance
I dig the camp design look. I regret going ultramarine blue when I started off because I wasn't aware of the technicalities of starting your own chapter and just adopting someone's chapter tactics. Which in a case like this you can easily say you're an ultramarine sub chapter one day and an imperial fist one the next. Camo looks great. Awesome job
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Post by: Gorgrimm
Looking great as always Big H. Land raider is spot on.
Yeah the Anvil stuff is nice, fits the army well.
Love Little H's SW too, did a great job.
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Post by: Guardians Eternal
After reading the whole thread I can't say I'm disappointed, these are amazing! I really like the way you do the glowing effects, on some of the weapons and heads. It really makes those models stand out, can't wait to see more!
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Reaper6 wrote:For your consideration, a 3 image montage from the Rogue Trader rulebook :
These models were from the early 90's, I don't remember the name of the box set but I remember it was a 30 man SM army. I remember it was relatively cheap for the time and amount of models. $30. I remember a 3 pack of rhinos were also around that price back then.
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 Fryboth wrote: Big H wrote:Also got a few of the excellent Anvil Industries Black Ops guys done , I really like these , might dispense entirely with GW Space Marine legs and bodies and just use parts added to the Anvil stuff......
I am in love with these guys. Everything about them. These guys alone makes me want to collect space marines and just copy exactly what you did. Their guns, gear, armor and headbands.
It's like taking the space marines out of their legendary sci-fi setting and making them much more real. It always bothered me that the standard marines were so devoid of gear! Where do they keep their ammo?
The guns alone add so much more flavor. I don't have anything against the classic bolter except that the current design is starting to feel old.
Keep up the great work!
It really annoyed me too that they only carried crosses and skulls and no ammo !!!
Anvils stuff is pretty good , try some !
Thanks mate.
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Johnnytorrance wrote:I dig the camp design look. I regret going ultramarine blue when I started off because I wasn't aware of the technicalities of starting your own chapter and just adopting someone's chapter tactics. Which in a case like this you can easily say you're an ultramarine sub chapter one day and an imperial fist one the next. Camo looks great. Awesome job
Its not too late to re-do them , most of this stuff is either old stuff from ebay or it belonged to my eldest son and has been done up for my youngest son.
Bring out the paint stripper !
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 Gorgrimm wrote:Looking great as always Big H. Land raider is spot on.
Yeah the Anvil stuff is nice, fits the army well.
Love Little H's SW too, did a great job.
Thanks mate , Little H can paint pretty well when he can be bothered, tho only one figure at a time !
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 Guardians Eternal wrote:After reading the whole thread I can't say I'm disappointed, these are amazing! I really like the way you do the glowing effects, on some of the weapons and heads. It really makes those models stand out, can't wait to see more!
Thanks mate , I only recently started to learn OSL techniques , but I'm fairly happy how they've turned out.
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Post by: Count von Devlin
Finally...some properly painted "Space Marines".... They actually look like SPACE MARINES. I can see something like that making it's way into my Guard force, as heavy infantry.
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Count von Devlin wrote:Finally...some properly painted "Space Marines".... They actually look like SPACE MARINES. I can see something like that making it's way into my Guard force, as heavy infantry.
Thanks mate ! Anvil Black Ops figures as heavy infantry would be cool, I fancy getting a Valkyrie or two for them !
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Cracked a few hours at the painting desk and finished this sucker thats been sat waiting for ever.
Little H did the Skulls , decorations and exhaust pipes , I struggled with the rest.
Criticism / comments welcome !
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Seems like forever since I finished something , so here they are ( minus a head thats coming ! ) TWO land speeders that have been sat on the desk for way too long .
Criticism welcome.
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Post by: whalemusic360
You should get some guy from Australia to paint up a head for that. How'd you do the guy standing, the legs are molded into the seat?
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Yeah , I should try that !
( I so wanted to say "guys from Australia do great head…." or something similar but that would be immature )
The crewman conversion is fairly simple, first cut off the moulded legs flush with the seat then cut / file away all the remaining butt and thighs till you're level with the original seat . Then fill in with putty to re-instate the seat.
The standing legs are made from a right leg and groin from the running Assault Marine sprue and left leg from the Marine kneeling legs.
This will allow the figure to lean forward with one leg up and back on the seat as if firing at passing targets !
Simples !
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Check me out , finished another unit !
Ladies and Gentlemen , I present the Camo Jumpy Death Smash squad.
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Post by: Jallen_
Hey there, Just found this thread and I have to say you have some fantastic painting skills. I'll be watching for me good stuff!
If you are interested in a background story for these guys, the GW book called "victories of the space marines" as a short story referring to a chapter called the "Warbringers", who wear camouflage almost identical to this.
It's a great read and I'd recommend it for some inspiration.
Keep up the good work man!
EDIT: forgot to mention that I love the older models and conversions. I can recognise quite a few from my own collection! I'd also like to see the whole army some day. Perhaps post a picture?
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Post by: jamesk1973
Okay your blades, OSL, camo, and weathering are blowing me away.
Consider the back/front for a comms officer officially stolen.
Eyegasming here!!!
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Jallen_ wrote:Hey there, Just found this thread and I have to say you have some fantastic painting skills. I'll be watching for me good stuff!
If you are interested in a background story for these guys, the GW book called "victories of the space marines" as a short story referring to a chapter called the "Warbringers", who wear camouflage almost identical to this.
It's a great read and I'd recommend it for some inspiration.
Keep up the good work man!
EDIT: forgot to mention that I love the older models and conversions. I can recognise quite a few from my own collection! I'd also like to see the whole army some day. Perhaps post a picture?
Thanks mate , I'll keep an eye out for the Warbringers book !
jamesk1973 wrote:Okay your blades, OSL, camo, and weathering are blowing me away.
Consider the back/front for a comms officer officially stolen.
Eyegasming here!!!
I just have too much time on my hands ! :-)
You'll need to do lots of trimming but steal the back/front idea all you like !
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Got these bad boys finished today, with the help of a desk magnifier ! What a difference it made (to me seeing not my painting !! )
Glasses I think are required if I'm going to get any better at this lark.
See what I mean , those pics looked focused when I took them ! Bugger
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After 12months I finally finished the Bane/Fell blade, Hurrah's all round.
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Post by: darkcloak
Man that's really cool that you and your kid get to play 40k together. I'll bet you two have some epic battles. The kid does pretty good work too!
Ill bet Big H doesn't give a rats bottom about which codex sucks and who got nerfed as long as he's spending time with his boy. That right there is what it's really all about. Jink nerf be damned!
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Thanks mate, I try to keep it to small scale "Adventures" so we don't have hundreds of figures all over the living room. He plays big stuff at the FLGS.
You know what ? I'm a firm believer in common sense and the "rules" are a wise mans guide, not his bible. We chop and change bits so its FUN !
Rules we use are 1st and 6th Edition WHFB and 1st , 4th and 5th Edition 40k. I figure we've bought enough rules for now !
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Post by: Ragnar69
Great work!
Where's the bearded head of the terminators from?
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Ragnar69 wrote:Great work!
Where's the bearded head of the terminators from?
Its a resin head/body from the Forgeworld SpaceWolves range.
Thanks mate !
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Post by: tekno000
I can't even describe how blown away I am by some of this. Beyond inspired (and you have caused the complete disregard of the idea of painting my marines 'neatly').
You really should do a tutorial on your force swords. The last few are so awesome that I'm probably going to try to repicate the technique.
Love your OSL, too.
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 tekno000 wrote:I can't even describe how blown away I am by some of this. Beyond inspired (and you have caused the complete disregard of the idea of painting my marines 'neatly').
You really should do a tutorial on your force swords. The last few are so awesome that I'm probably going to try to repicate the technique.
Love your OSL, too.
Thanks very much dude. In a millennium that knows only war, there's no time to be "neat" !
I'll have a think about a short tutorial, tho in essence I just stole all my "ideas" from other people on Dakka ! NerdFest09 and Eggroll being two very good examples , tho there are plenty of others. Automatically Appended Next Post: tekno000 wrote:I can't even describe how blown away I am by some of this. Beyond inspired (and you have caused the complete disregard of the idea of painting my marines 'neatly').
You really should do a tutorial on your force swords. The last few are so awesome that I'm probably going to try to repicate the technique.
Love your OSL, too.
Mate, this is a good a tute as you will need http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/351390.page#2521640
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Nice. That's way cool. Have you ever done any tutorials on your camouflage techniques? I've been studying your pictures pretty intently trying to decide how I can adapt them into a snow/tundra/boreal forest camouflage pattern.
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Post by: Lord Tarkin
I absolutely love these!! Best I have ever seen!!
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Post by: Kelly502
I had the same problem when I first started collecting Space Marines in the 80's...then I got over it.
You have done a great job with them, I absolutley love the wear and tear look as true ground fighters should look, I've never seen a clean Grunt in real life so why should a figure of a fighting man be any different?
My last work on my Blood Angels I gave them dirt and mud around their legs and feet, loads of ammo pouches, grenades, and knives. Still kept to the matt red though.
I acutally had a well commo'd scout squad in a group of trees at a tournament, so well hidden I forgot about them all together! Even forgot to collect them at the end of the tournament. 
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 Kelly502 wrote:
I acutally had a well commo'd scout squad in a group of trees at a tournament, so well hidden I forgot about them all together! Even forgot to collect them at the end of the tournament.
Ah, thats a problem ! Stay behind Observation Post for calling Orbital bombardment ?
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Post by: Big H
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year DakkaNoughts !
For the New Year I promise to finish some Camo projects and perhaps move from tracked vehicles to a more DropPod and Flyer themed force , all in Desert Sand obviously !!!!
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That's a nice Christmas present! Thanks, and Happy New Year to you too!
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