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Post by: Reecius
Purchase your event ticket here: http://www.frontlinegaming.org/shop/anime-expo-40k-tournament-ticket/
Anime Expo is a huge pop culture convention in Los Angeles, California at the Los Angeles Convention Center that runs through 4th of July weekend, the 4th through the 7th. We will be running a Warhammer 40,000 tournament at the con! We’ve done this before at Comikaze, also at the LACC, and they are super fun. Not only will this be a great con in general filled with hot Cos Play girls, movie stars, Anime and Manga artists and writers, etc. but it will also be a great 40K tournament!
This event will be using the BAO tournament format, the details of which you can see here: http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/bay-area-open/warhammer-40000-championships-rules-scenarios-and-prizes/
It will also be using the latest version of the Indy Tournament FAQ, which you can see here: http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/40k-faq/
This is going to be a great event! We are very excited for it. For those of you who have not been to a Con like this before, they are super fun. There are only 32 spots for this event though and they're already selling quickly, so grab those tickets fast!
Important things to know about this event:
==This will be a 5 round event, 3 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday.
== You have to buy a Con badge from Anime Expo’s site in order to get into the con. Those can be purchased here: http://www.anime-expo.org/registration/
==You have to also purchase an event ticket from us on our site linked to above. 100% of this money goes directly into prize support which will be in addition to prizes from our sponsors!
==The 40K tournament is Saturday and Sunday. You can get your registration badge anytime starting Thursday. You can pick up your badge as early as 8am on Saturday before the event. Doors open for the con at 10am on Saturday.
==I, Reece, will be out front of the con helping to direct traffic and making sure everyone is where they need to be. The picture below is of the front of the Convention center, which is where I will be. Look for me in front of the double doors. The ugly duckling in the second picture is yours truly so you know who to look for.
==The event will start at 10:45am on Saturday.
This is going to be a great event! Here are some pictures from previous Anime Expos! If you have any questions, email me at Contact@FrontlineGaming.org or post them in the comments section.
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Post by: Anpu42
If I could make it, 'i would be greatly intrestede in some Open Games.
Nothing to serious
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Post by: Reecius
Well, considering how expensive it is to rent space at the LA Convention center, and that this is a pay to play event, the odds of having open gaming are very close to zero. They are actually zero, if I am going to be honest.
The format would be BAO style, for those that don't understand what that means it would be a Swiss style competitive tournament at 1750pts, just like we ran at the Bay Area Open. Hopefully that helps to clarify my question.
Thanks for the input though, Anpu42.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
I am there. It is during a time when I have time, and it's in my neighborhood!
My only questions :would entry fee for the tournament include entry fee to the convention? How many players is this capped at? I have found the larger tournaments to be quite daunting. I would still go if you were running 256 players though
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Post by: Anpu42
Reecius wrote:Well, considering how expensive it is to rent space at the LA Convention center, and that this is a pay to play event, the odds of having open gaming are very close to zero. They are actually zero, if I am going to be honest.
The format would be BAO style, for those that don't understand what that means it would be a Swiss style competitive tournament at 1750pts, just like we ran at the Bay Area Open. Hopefully that helps to clarify my question.
Thanks for the input though, Anpu42.
My main reason for asking about open gaming is I have had some bad experiences [oddly enough in my favor once]. My last tournament was back in 2nd edition. So if you could let me know what the BAO/Swiss Style is like, maybe it would change my opinion.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/40k-faq/
The above is a link to the FAQ they use. The below is a link to their site for the 2013 BAO and should have the format info you are looking for.
http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/bay-area-open/warhammer-40000-championships-rules-scenarios-and-prizes/
Don't mean to step on your toes Reece but I figured since I am not doing anything important at the moment...
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Post by: Xenocidal Maniac
I'd be able to make it that weekend.
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Post by: Reecius
@Anpu
We'd love ot have you, these are very fun events.
@Overwatch
That FAQ is going to be updated soon to account for the GW FAQ changes.
@Xenocidal Maniac
Awesome, would be good to have you.
We're getting a strong positive reaction so far, so things look good for a green light. We will make our decision this coming Friday.
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Post by: Janthkin
Is Comikaze on this year? I'm only going to drive to LA once....
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Post by: Grimgob
I'd be down as long as its not on the 4th. Fireworks and such.
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Post by: Annahiel
How big is your room going to be?
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Post by: whitedragon
Sounds awesome but too far outta my neck of the woods, and too close to an event for my "other" hobby. :(
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Post by: sotoa9
Those dates work for me. I would be there.
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Post by: nickthewise
I'd be interested in attending.
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Post by: Phazael
One week before QCR, so no go for me, but I will pass the word around on it.
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Post by: gameandwatch
Sounds like a blast, but would wanna hear all the details of what a pass would buy
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Post by: Cliffy_3
I would go depending on cost.
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Post by: Reecius
Thanks for the feedback!
So to answer questions,
The tournament would be on the 6th and 7th, so you would still be free for the 4th.
I am not clear on prices yet, haven't gotten that far into negotiations, yet.
Comikaze is on, it is early November.
This will not conflict with the Las Vegas Open, we are still planning on hosting that in early March (BAO time slot) and moving the BAO.
Let me know if you guys have any additional questions!
Reece
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Post by: yakface
Normally I would preface a post like this saying that my opinion is just hypothetical since I'm not really interested in playing 6th edition tournaments...however, I'm likely going to be playing some in the upcoming year because of how much I like the look of the Tau codex, so with that said, I have decided that I don't care for the tournament-within-a-convention hall concept because:
• Tournaments are already loud enough (or too loud depending on your point of view) when just involving the gamers playing. Once you add in a convention hall full of people, it is just too much and makes it just a little bit harder to enjoy playing the games and talking to your opponents.
• I don't know what deals you'll be able to strike with the convention organizers about getting us advance access, but if there is even a *chance* of having to stand in the normal access line to get into the hall then that alone is essentially a deal-breaker for me. Just not worth that hassle.
• So far the way you've cordoned off the tournament area for Comikazee has made me feel roughly 'safe enough' to leave my stuff in there for a few minutes while I go grab some food, but honestly it is kind of a dicey situation.
While miniature gamers can (and have) stolen each others' stuff before, for whatever reason I feel a bit more secure in an area that tends to have only people that dedicated to playing mini games, as they usually have about the same 'skin in the game' as I do, when it comes to value of their own stuff to be stolen. Plus I think it is a hell of a lot easier to spot some random person coming in snooping through stuff in an isolated gaming hall than it is in a giant convention hall with thousands of people where literally anyone could sneak under/through a barrier for a minute or two without being detected if they really wanted.
• Concrete floors = sore feet.
So because of that, even though I enjoy Frontline run events, I would likely pass on all future tournaments-within-a-convention hall events.
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Post by: oddworx
I would definitely make it to that tourney. Do it!
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Post by: lajollagrad
I'm in. Baby Shirt and everything
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Post by: Blood Lord Soldado
I 2nd what John said about being able to get in.
It is tricky enough to haul my army, but to be in with the cattle at 8am when the doors open is a disaster waiting to happen. I heard last year it took a couple of hours to get everyone in.
If you can arrange an express lane or something it would help you and the event alot.
I might even be able to make that event also.
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Post by: Reecius
Thanks for the feedback guys!
@Yakface
We didn't have any issue with theft last year. Some folks did wander in to check things out, but we were really good about shooing them out. We always have at least one of our staff present to keep an things as it does get hectic in the convention.
@Coop
Baby T for the win! haha
@Blood Lord Soldado
Yes, Comikaze was a bit of a cluster F getting people in last year, but this is a different event with different administration and a different system. They also have been around longer.
That said, we would ask to include into our contract the ability to check out attendees in ourselves and get them in without waiting. It helps keep things on track.
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Post by: yakface
Reecius wrote:Thanks for the feedback guys!
@Yakface
We didn't have any issue with theft last year. Some folks did wander in to check things out, but we were really good about shooing them out. We always have at least one of our staff present to keep an things as it does get hectic in the convention.
Reece,
I wasn't trying to imply that there was any issue at Comikazee with theft, and everyone should know that. You did do an admirable job of keeping your area supervised.
However, I was just talking about generalities, and one of the reasons I might not attend a tournament within a convention hall event. As we all know, there is ALWAYS the possibility that your models can get stolen at any event if you leave them unattended and its ultimately not on the tournament organizer to keep your models safe. However, I feel that remote chance of it happening to me is slightly higher at a tournament inside a convention hall rather than at something like the BAO.
I'm sure there's not enough data to justify that feeling (as you probably haven't had any instances of stolen models at either type of event yet), so I'm really just talking about that gut feeling. A tournament within a convention hall has a whole lot more complete strangers within fairly short proximity to my stuff and therefore the odds are essentially higher that disaster *could* possibly happen and my stuff could get ganked.
As that is mostly a fleeting concern, it alone would not prevent me from attending a tournament inside a convention hall, but combined with the other points I posted above (which are actually more annoying) it does factor in to me not really being interested in attending.
But anyway, I've said my peace and I'll leave it be.
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Post by: Adam LongWalker
This is a tough one to say. Yakface has come up with a valid concern with stolen models. The Anime convention (as well the business end) scene is something that I am well versed in with long time friends still being involved some of the largest conventions in California/US. Still have convention burnt out syndrome from being involved with that scene.
Include a high volume of attendance and a great deal of foot traffic for this convention and you have the possibility of "things taking feet". I would hate to see the tournament being tarnished by loss of models.
Where you are going to set up is paramount to your success as well as well as protection of models. Get those potential problems dealt with and you should be fine.
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Post by: Xenocidal Maniac
Wow. Yeah, if this is like Yakface says, I am reluctant to participate as well. I thought maybe we would have a hall somewhere kind of separate from the rest of the action, but if it's right in the thick of things... wow, not sure.
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Post by: yakface
Adam LongWalker wrote:This is a tough one to say. Yakface has come up with a valid concern with stolen models. The Anime convention (as well the business end) scene is something that I am well versed in with long time friends still being involved some of the largest conventions in California/US. Still have convention burnt out syndrome from being involved with that scene.
Include a high volume of attendance and a great deal of foot traffic for this convention and you have the possibility of "things taking feet". I would hate to see the tournament being tarnished by loss of models.
Where you are going to set up is paramount to your success as well as well as protection of models. Get those potential problems dealt with and you should be fine.
Xenocidal Maniac wrote:Wow. Yeah, if this is like Yakface says, I am reluctant to participate as well. I thought maybe we would have a hall somewhere kind of separate from the rest of the action, but if it's right in the thick of things... wow, not sure.
Hey guys, I'm kind of sorry I brought it up. I was trying to give feedback, but I do think taken purely out of context it makes things sound a lot worse than they are in reality.
They've run two (I think) successful events already right in the middle of the LA convention center hall during Comikazee, and they had the area cordoned off well and always had at least one staff member on hand to keep an eye on things. If this would be your primary reason for not attending, I'd urge you reconsider and give it a try.
I do think the chance of having your things stolen is slightly higher than a standard tournament in its own hall, but really we're talking about like going from a 2% chance to a 4% chance...certainly not catastrophic.
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Post by: Adam LongWalker
@ Yakface. with all due respect, They need to know the great deal of foot traffic that goes along with being part of Anime Expo and with Foot traffic comes problems Last Year there was close to 50000 people showing up and probably a great deal more than was posted. I've worked in these types of situations, which is why I no longer do (or perform) any large conventions anymore. The logistics can be a complete and total nightmare if you are not on top of it and have a top notch staff.
That saying if they have a suitable area to run a tournament that they are comfortable in then by all means go for it. Reece is a smart guy and has a good group of people with him.
But they NEED to know that the place is going to be packed. And things do happen. Just be aware that Anime Expo is not a gaming convention. This is more or less evolved into a multimedia convention, that involves some heavy hitters within the pacific rim. A different mind set all together.
Now if Reece and his group can score to be invited to one of the guest rooms/parties, that is where the real parties begin.
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Post by: Reecius
Hey guys, we are no strangers to running 40K tournaments in huge cons. We have run 2 already at the Los Angeles Convention Center (where this event will be held) with attendance figures over 40,000 people both times. Not a single model stolen yet.
Our tournament is in the main hall, but we have a partition around the event so that random people walking by can't come within arm's reach of any stuff, and we have a staff member keeping people out. Trust me, it's plenty safe.
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Post by: Kimchi Gamer
Honestly guys, the convention hall games have been some of the most fun I've had at a tournament. I was at both of the Comikaze tournaments and not once did I feel like my models were in any way vulnerable to theft. The atmosphere is so much different than your standard hotel conference room tournament most 40k cons seem to fall into. For one, there are people who will be experiencing the hobby for the first time by watching you play. As long as you don't have the personality of a wet sock you will enjoy the attention you will get from random strangers (and pretty con girls). During your breaks you have free time to walk around and see all of the cool stuff going on, and if we are being honest I think anyone going to a 40k tournament has at least a passing interest in anime. Did I mention the pretty girls wearing costumes? Yak Man brought up the fact that there is the possibility that you might have to *gasp* wait in line like some dirty peasant. I certainly had to keep my pimp hand strong when one of these 'people' tried to touch me during the first Comikaze, but you know what? I also got to meet Ensign Harry F'n Kim from Star Trek Voyager. I would call that a wash.
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Post by: MikeFox
Id be there, orky silliness and all
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Post by: Reecius
Thanks for the input guys.
And yeah, half the fun of these events is getting to see all the cutie cosplay girls and meet the celebrities.
At the last Comikaze Stan Lee came by our booth, Earnest Borgnine came and talked to us. We met the actors from Boondock Saints (and Daryl from The Walking Dead), etc. It really is a lot bigger than just a tournament, and super fun.
As a part of the contract I am negotiating with Anime Expo we are asking for the ability to walk our guys and gals in without waiting in registration lines. It will make the experience much smoother.
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Post by: Xenocidal Maniac
Man, it's so crazy. I remember going to this thing way back when I was 17 and it was at the Marriott near LAX and it was really just a bunch of dorks and fansub clubs and stalls hocking VHS tapes and random paraphernalia. Cute cosplay girls? Ha! HA!
My, how it has grown.
So, honestly, I'd have to give it some thought. I'm not so worried about theft. I hear what Kimchi is saying, it could be fun. But on the other hand I could see constant interruptions and distractions being nerve-wracking as hell.
As of right now, 65% Hell yeah! 35% Not so sure...
Not that you moving forward with it is in any way contingent on my participation!!!
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Post by: Reecius
As stated, this will be the third time we've run an event in a giant Con at the convention center so we're very familiar with the ups and downs.
We put a partition around the event so that people can't come in to the tournament, they can only observe from the outside. We also have a staff member walking around the perimeter to keep an eye on everything and answer the questions of folks watching. You really aren't getting hit with distractions, trust me. This isn't our first rodeo.
And the hall is HUGE, like gargantuan. It honestly isn't crowded inside. Comikaze had over 40,000 people and you could walk around with ease. It is not as crowded as I get the impression people think it is.
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Post by: Xenocidal Maniac
Ok, cool. Sounds fun. Roughly what would be the price of admission?
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Post by: Reecius
I'm hammering out ticket price now, but I am shooting for the $55-$65 range which includes full Con admission. It's a really good deal when you look at the cost of the con itself.
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Post by: dkellyj
It is tough concentrating on the game when the barely dressed asian cos-play girls gather for their costume contests...but I'm willing to accept that sacrifice.
Been to both ComiKaze's...despite the general noise level, they were both really fun events. The better painted armies also tend to get piccys taken by non-gamers and end up on non-gamer type blogs...which gets more people interested in the game and is good for the continued growth of the hobby.
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Post by: Reecius
That is SO true. We handed out hundreds of cards at the last two Comikaze's and were running demos left and right, explaining what the game was to tons of people that like nerd culture but had previously been unaware of 40K of war gaming. It seriously grows the hobby.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Reecius wrote:That is SO true. We handed out hundreds of cards at the last two Comikaze's and were running demos left and right, explaining what the game was to tons of people that like nerd culture but had previously been unaware of 40K of war gaming. It seriously grows the hobby.
Have you given any thought to running a small Warmahordes event alongside 40k at these events? The more types of games seen the more people we can trap!
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Post by: Reecius
Yeah, we have a reliable Warmahordes TO now, so I think so long as their isn't already an event going on, we will incorporate those events as well.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
If you do a Warmahordes event be sure to let Travis, Disdainful, from Game Empire Pasadena know. They have a huge Warmahordes group with quality players who I know love going to the larger WMH events.
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Post by: Reecius
Awesome, will do!
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Post by: dkellyj
Geek Wars.
Time to take over the Conventions.
Crush the video game boys,
and hear the lamentations of the Cos-Play women.
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Post by: Loch
Provided we could get in early and beat the chaos like at Comikaze last year, I'm all for another convention-al GT
Having to stand in line with thousands of other con-goers while holding a tub full of Dark Eldar would be
I'm definitely down for some more 40k tho. Reece and his crew did a fine job of policing things at Comikaze and if we can get a similar setup I don't mind a bit of spectator action with my games of The Floor Is Lava.
Count me in!
-Ian
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Post by: Reecius
@Kelly
haha, Conan's guide to 40K!
@Loch
Yeah, we will have the same set up with the railing around the event to keep the looky-loos out. Trust me, we're going to keep your guys' stuff safe.
We are finalizing the contract with Anime Expo now, I would say this event is 99% a go at this point. Going to be a blast!
I am working with them on a way to get our guys and gals in as swiftly as possible to avoid the cluster-F that was Comikaze registration last year. I am confident that we will streamline the process. Speaking of which, I am talking to the folks at Comikaze now too, and we are addressing that issue. They have plans in place to make registration a lot smoother.
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Post by: Janthkin
I'd cheerfully pay an extra couple bucks if you could mail me my badge ahead of time.
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Post by: Reecius
I am talking to the administrative staff now about any possible way to get everyone in and registered without waiting in line.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Reecius wrote:I am talking to the administrative staff now about any possible way to get everyone in and registered without waiting in line.
That's honestly a deal breaker for me going. Not sure about others.
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Post by: Xenocidal Maniac
OverwatchCNC wrote: Reecius wrote:I am talking to the administrative staff now about any possible way to get everyone in and registered without waiting in line.
That's honestly a deal breaker for me going. Not sure about others.
How long is the wait, generally? Any more than 10 minutes or so and I would definitely have to think about it.
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Post by: Janthkin
Xenocidal Maniac wrote: OverwatchCNC wrote: Reecius wrote:I am talking to the administrative staff now about any possible way to get everyone in and registered without waiting in line.
That's honestly a deal breaker for me going. Not sure about others.
How long is the wait, generally? Any more than 10 minutes or so and I would definitely have to think about it.
If you have to join the main line? Hours. And I'm not kidding.
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Post by: Reecius
You guys are thinking about Comikaze.
Please, please, please remember these are not related events in terms of administration, logistics, etc.
This is a totally different company, different everything. Comikaze year 1 and 2 were totally different.
Anime Expo isn't expecting the same levels of attendance as Comikaze and, Comikaze is ramping up logistics to get people in more smoothly this year. Automatically Appended Next Post: In other words, don't use Comikaze as a comparison point to the upcoming Anime Expo, they are apples and oranges.
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Post by: Janthkin
Of course we're comparing it to Comikaze. Reecius wrote: It would be similar to Comikaze, with a lot of very cool things to see and do outside of just gaming.
Same venue, similar event - what else is there to compare it to?
I've been to various conventions of the comic & anime type, and it's been similar every time - if you want to get in when the doors first open, you can plan on lining up a couple hours ahead of time. Doesn't mean they aren't well-run, it just means that a few thousand people want to pass through a limited-capacity gate at the same moment. Show up a couple hours later, and you can usually just walk in.
But unless you can start the tournament a couple hours after the con opens, it's an issue.
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Post by: Reecius
I meant compare it to Comikaze in terms of overall feel, venue, etc. Not in terms of logistics and administration. Two different companies with two different systems.
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Post by: Reecius
Update!
We have resolution on the badge/registration issue.
We will have no problem getting everyone in on time. I anticipate that not only will we have everyone in on time, but early.
We will be able to have your badges in hand as early as 8am on Saturday, and in the door right on time when the event starts at 10am. We will most likely start the tournament at 10:45 am.
So, no worries there guys, we will have you in with a minimal wait in line at the most, probably just come right in with no wait at all.
This is going to be a really fun event! I can't wait. We should have the contract signed this week.
One thing though, we will only have enough space for 32 players! So if you want to come, grab tickets as soon as we put them up for sale.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Pics don't work for me on my iMac or iPad... Otherwise, sounds awesome!
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Post by: yakface
Flikr does not allow direct linking of their images.
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Post by: Reecius
Pictures fixed!
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Post by: no_to_co
Hey Reecius,
What are the details of this? Points, FW, restrictions?
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
no_to_co wrote:Hey Reecius,
What are the details of this? Points, FW, restrictions?
He said it is the BAO format. That's 1750 FW allowed.
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Post by: Largo39
You guys thinking there might be 2v2 for this event?
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Post by: Reecius
Yes, BAO Format, which you can read here: http://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/bay-area-open/warhammer-40000-championships-rules-scenarios-and-prizes/
It is the same format we will use for all of our events to make it easy for people to travel to them. You only need one army built and painted, and you will know exactly what you're getting, every time. Also, the latest version of the tournament FAQ will be out very soon, too answering some of the questions from the recent books.
@Largo39
Unfortunately no, not this year. We only have a very limited space this year and can fit only 32 40K players with a 2 day event.
That said, we are thinking about taking an idea from The Golden Throne tournament, and running a team event concurrently with the singles event as they are so fun.
What I mean by that is you will play in the singles event on your own, but you can register as a team. The team that does the best by combining their scores will be the top team! We would also do the costume contest as well as those are so much fun.
That's not set in stone yet, but I am leaning towards it at this point.
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Post by: ReaperOfTheLost
Is there an ETA of when tickets will go on sale? Where's the best place to keep an eye on that, should we email you/frontline to get a notified when they go on sale?
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Post by: Reecius
The way we negotiated tickets for the event is this. You will buy your con pass through their website and your 40K event ticket through our website at Frontline Gaming. The 40K tournament will cost $10.
The Con registration is $55 for a 2 day pass, which I imagine most of you guys will get, but it is $65 for a 4 day pass for those interested.
I am now just waiting on the contract to be drafted and sent to me to be signed and executed. Once that happens, I will put tickets up for sale and it is game on.
For getting your badge and getting into the event, Saturday morning I will be out front of the con at 8am, so you guys will be able to see me and get situated and I will hook you guys up with your badge. The con opens at 10am, and we will get rolling at probably 10:30 or 10:45.
The con runs until 2am that night, too, so you will have plenty of time to check stuff out.
Most people register for and get their badges Wednesday through Friday, so their should be minimal line by Saturday. Plus, like I said, I will be out there early to get everyone registered and good to go.
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Post by: Reecius
Tickets up for sale, info in first post and they are already moving quickly!
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Post by: Dude_I_Suck
Just got mine, heck, it's a win-win. Front of the line, play 40k, then checking out the con afterwards.
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Post by: Reecius
Nice one! We're looking forward to having you. These events are super fun, like you said, you get to check out a super cool Con and play 40K!
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Bought my ticket. See you there!
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Post by: sotoa9
Just bought mine!!
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Post by: Reecius
Awesome!
Only 24 tickets left guys, be sure to let folks know to grab them quick!
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Post by: MikeFox
This is very tempting but a $65 price tag is rather hefty right now for me. We will see.
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Post by: Reecius
The tournament is only $11, the con admission is $55 to $65 depending on the badge you get.
And if you have never been to a huge con like this, it is hard to understand. They are CRAZY and a lot of fun. There is so much other stuff to see and do going on, you really do get your money's worth from the con badge.
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Post by: MikeFox
Oh I love going to big Cons, Ive been to many in my life. Its not justifying the price, its Im not sure about future income so $65 is a good chunk of change. But if I can swing it I will.
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Post by: Reecius
Ah, ok that makes sense.
Well we hope you can join us!
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Post by: Blackmoor
$55 for a 2 day convention badge
$11 for the 40k tournament
$20+ for 2 days of parking.
So $86 with food and drink+gas you are looking at $100.00 for the weekend.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Blackmoor wrote:$55 for a 2 day convention badge
$11 for the 40k tournament
$20+ for 2 days of parking.
So you are looking at $86 with food and drink+gas so you are looking at $100.00 for the weekend.
-$20 for parking. Gold Line FTW.
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Post by: Reecius
Yeah, LA has pretty decent public transportation, contrary to popular belief.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
The funny part, Im leaving the L.A area the day thist starts too bad.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Reecius wrote:Yeah, LA has pretty decent public transportation, contrary to popular belief.
When it comes down to it I am willing to pay more to play in a smaller tournament than a larger one. I don't do well in larger fields; so the smaller the field, at least for me, the better my chances of winning! Right?
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Post by: Reecius
That is true, actually as you have less rounds of play to go through. However, the opposite is true if the field is strong as it means you are more likely to play harder games.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Reecius wrote:That is true, actually as you have less rounds of play to go through. However, the opposite is true if the field is strong as it means you are more likely to play harder games.
Bright side Reece, I am looking for the bright side!
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Post by: ReaperOfTheLost
OverwatchCNC wrote: Reecius wrote:That is true, actually as you have less rounds of play to go through. However, the opposite is true if the field is strong as it means you are more likely to play harder games.
Bright side Reece, I am looking for the bright side!
Well this is going to be my first tournament and the first time I'll be playing people outside my circle of friends. I don't even have much of a competitive list, my army consists of models I like, rules be damned. So you'll have at least one noob to kick around. i just couldn't pass up the double wammy of AX and a 40k tournament.
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Post by: Reecius
We'll be sure to make you feel welcome! Tournaments are great fun.
Only 22 spots left!
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Post by: Acrimonious
OverwatchCNC wrote: Blackmoor wrote:$55 for a 2 day convention badge
$11 for the 40k tournament
$20+ for 2 days of parking.
So you are looking at $86 with food and drink+gas so you are looking at $100.00 for the weekend.
-$20 for parking. Gold Line FTW.
Tickets purchased, and I'll be taking the Gold Line too. Overwatch, since I seem to run into you all over town perhaps we'll meet up on the way haha.
-Trevor
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Post by: Reecius
Looking forward to having you!
Tickets are moving fast on this one, we anticipate selling out soon.
Grab your tickets if you want to come!
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Post by: nickthewise
Ticket bought. Looking forward to this.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Acrimonious wrote: OverwatchCNC wrote: Blackmoor wrote:$55 for a 2 day convention badge
$11 for the 40k tournament
$20+ for 2 days of parking.
So you are looking at $86 with food and drink+gas so you are looking at $100.00 for the weekend.
-$20 for parking. Gold Line FTW.
Tickets purchased, and I'll be taking the Gold Line too. Overwatch, since I seem to run into you all over town perhaps we'll meet up on the way haha.
-Trevor
Too true, if it isn't at Game Empire we seem to find ourselves everywhere else in Pasadena at the same times.
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Post by: Reecius
Only 19 tickets left!
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Hey Reece I don't remember, do you guys require the entire FW book for FW units we use or are photocopied pages acceptable?
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Post by: Reecius
Photocopies are fine so long as is it is from the most recent book with relevant FAQ's if appropriate.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Will the new Eldar codex be allowed?
If so how fast can you guys paint me an army up to your level 1 standard?
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Post by: Reecius
Yeah, that is plenty of time for a new book!
And we can knock out a level 1 army in a week if we need to. We've done it before!
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Post by: Reecius
Haha, we are good to our word!
Get those tickets folks!! Going to be a great event.
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Post by: Reecius
Less than half the tickets left! Grab them quick!
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Post by: Reecius
Tickets are going to sell out pretty soon here, grab them soon!
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Post by: Xenocidal Maniac
lolwut are tickets really only $11 or is that a mistake?
Edit: Ok, I stopped being lazy and read through the thread. I see the cost breakdown. Still not bad for two days of gaming.
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Post by: Reecius
Yeah, 2 days of gaming and 4 days of convention fun!
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Post by: Xenocidal Maniac
And hot hot hot cosplay girls. If anything I'll go for the spectacle of the whole thing. As I said before, my how this little con has grown.
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Post by: Reecius
Yes! I do enjoy the scenery at these events, it really adds a certain special quality to them!
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Nice, I will have to try those out!
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Post by: CaptKaruthors
Make sure you take lots of pictures!
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Post by: Janthkin
Of Reece eating french fries? That's a strange fetish, but okay.
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Post by: CaptKaruthors
Lolz. No. I meant take pictures of the event, the tournament, armies, etc.
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Post by: Reecius
And the Coplay girls!! haha
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Post by: Loch
As if that isn't going to be the subject of 90% of the event photos
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Post by: Kimchi Gamer
Why didn't you post the picture where you are pretending to show off you mustache but its really a picture showing off that tight body with no shirt on?
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Post by: Reecius
@Loch
If I am behind the camera it sure will be! hahaha
@Creeper
Hate to break your heart, but I have a lady, you are going to have to Facebook stalk someone else, now! hahaha
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Post by: MikeFox
Its tempting man. Ill have to wait and see what the next two weeks of work hold for me. I got some new ork silliness painted up.
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Post by: Reecius
Yeah, you should come! It will be a good time for sure.
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MikeFox wrote:Its tempting man. Ill have to wait and see what the next two weeks of work hold for me. I got some new ork silliness painted up.
If you go maybe Reece can arrange a round 1 grudge match  so we finally get that game in!
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Post by: Reecius
If both players want a grudge match, we are only too happy to oblige!
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Reecius wrote:If both players want a grudge match, we are only too happy to oblige!
 there you go Mike!
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Post by: MikeFox
So you're angling to get an auto win first round? Im sure it will be a kill point mission as well
No no I kid, Ill be buying my ticket soon so count me in, new ork silliness and all. And sure why not lets have a grudge match. Youll be fully painted right?
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MikeFox wrote:So you're angling to get an auto win first round? Im sure it will be a kill point mission as well
No no I kid, Ill be buying my ticket soon so count me in, new ork silliness and all. And sure why not lets have a grudge match. Youll be fully painted right?
Fully painted and fully Nurgle!
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Post by: MikeFox
Then this shall be a battle for the ages, two expertly painted armies duking it out with all the silliness I bring to the table and Johns stern and foreboding 2+ cover saves of nurglness.
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Post by: Loch
Mike is coming? There goes my shot at Best Appearance!
This is shaping up to be one fun con.
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Post by: MikeFox
Hey now, I expect you and John to give me a run for my money. And you never know what out of towner might show up with his insane Tau army that bested me at BAO
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Post by: Reecius
Less than 10 spots remaining! Grab them tickets before the last minute crunch!
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Only 7 spots left!! Get them while you can!
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Post by: Reecius
About 6 spots left, and Lyzz Foster, winner of the BAO 2013 is going to be joining us, too as well as Cooper Waddell, winner of KindgomCon 2012!
Going to be a fun con, good comp and a lot of fun. Come and join us!
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Anyone else planning to take the Gold Line from the Pasadena area?
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Post by: Loch
No Gold Line for us valley sleazebags, but there's good news, the Red Line goez fasta!
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Post by: MikeFox
Im driving in. Display board would be to much of a pain to take on the train
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Post by: ReaperOfTheLost
How long do the tournament rounds usually run?
Also what do we bring as proof of purchase for the ticket, the paypal receipt?
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Post by: Reecius
We have you all registered for the event! Just show up and tell us your name, you will be good to go. I also know most of you in real life, hahaha, so basically just walk up and give me a high five or something. This will be pretty casual, so don't worry about a big crunch at registration. So long as you bought your event ticket on Frontline Gaming, we have all of your info.
The rounds run 2 hours and 15 minutes. You will have a lot of time to check out the con, it runs all night I believe on Saturday.
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
MikeFox wrote:Im driving in. Display board would be to much of a pain to take on the train
 I forgot about my display board...
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Post by: Dude_I_Suck
Well, I promised myself before I leave the SoCal area for upstate New York I'd finally finish my daemons, so I have yet to worry about my display board. Hopefully I can get the models finished, I'm just waiting for the rest of my bases. What is the parking like for the event
Reece is kinda hard to miss for entry, tall, skinny guy. So are we going to have to wait in line for our badges then go find you or will you be able to get us front for that as well?
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Post by: Reecius
I am indeed a tall, skinny guy! haha, and I will be in front, by the main doors.
Parking is no problem, the convention center has loads of parking.
As I was told, you will be able to just walk up, get your badge, and then go in. We will be in the back corner. Come find us, or come in with me, and we will get you guys all set up and ready to rock.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Will this be a common thing?
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Post by: Reecius
Only 5 tickets left!
And will what be a common thing? Anime Expo? I don't understand the question.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Im sorry, will the tournament at the expo become a thing every year.
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Post by: Reecius
Ah ok, understood. Yes, it should be. So long as this year goes well and Anime Expo invites us back, we will plan to continue doing it. We're excited, I think this is going to be a super fun event.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Well expect me there next year
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Post by: Reecius
See you there!
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Post by: oddworx
just got my tix! now the only question is which army to bring?
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so what time are we supposed to check in? And will there be beer served at this con?
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Post by: Dude_I_Suck
Well, it was a great tourny Reece, I can't wait for Vegas now. I will have those dang models completely based, and touch up the KoS so Frankie actually is staring at the paint job and not the body part she has six of!
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Post by: qballony
Yeah great tourney! Had loads of fun.
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Post by: MikeFox
Agreed thanks a lot man. Hope your trip back up goes smoothly and Ill try and see you at Dual Con
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Can't say enough about how great this was. I still hate random game length though!
Congrats to Janthkin on the win and MikeFox for taking home best painted. Check CnC tomorrow for a post about the tournament and the few pictures I took. Probably won't see you guys again until Vegas Reece, but I can't wait for that one!
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Post by: Loch
I hate to jump on bandwagons, but this was a super fun event. Even if I did play Chaos 4/5 games!
Grats to Janthkin for a solid 5-0 showing with his Daemons/ CSM and to all the other deserving winners. I'll be back next year for sure.
-Ian
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Post by: ReaperOfTheLost
Thanks for putting up with my noobness guys. I showed my last place prize to my wife and she said "Is this there way of telling you to switch to another game?", talk about adding insult to injury
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Post by: OverwatchCNC
Wrap up and pictures posted on Capture and Control. Sorry I didn't take any pics of Cosplay girls... My wife might have though, I'll see what I can find
http://www.captureandcontrol.com/2013/07/anime-expo-40k-tournament-wrap-up.html Automatically Appended Next Post: ReaperOfTheLost wrote:Thanks for putting up with my noobness guys. I showed my last place prize to my wife and she said "Is this there way of telling you to switch to another game?", talk about adding insult to injury 
We were all noobs at one point. I received a free Flames of War rulebook once for my gross play. I even received the Grossest Golf trophy once in a team charity event where you played the best ball hit by your team... We still couldn't shoot par, or even close to it
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Post by: Blackmoor
I can't believe that you guys (and girl) let Kevin win!
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Post by: oddworx
This was a great event! Thanks for putting it on Frontline Crew. Definitely a motivator for future tournys. The Con was hilarious too. Congrats to all my Daemon overlords.
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Post by: qballony
Sorry Blackmoor. I tried! I got 2nd but didn't get a chance to play Kevin. I played Tau for the first time in round 4...let them go first...yeah so that happened...so i wasn't on the final table.
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Post by: Janthkin
I think everyone was just being nice; they didn't want to beat me up in front of my wife. I had some fantastic opponents, and some games that were literally down to a single die roll. My game against Cooper's tyranids, for example - if his Biovores hadn't failed a morale check & fell off the table, I don't get the single extra point towards Big Guns Never Tire, and he wins instead. Tight games! So, for those of you who weren't there: 0) The usual mad props to the Frontline Gaming crew. They've got the format nailed down pretty tight. 1) FW was a non-factor. I think there were a couple of Contemptors in one of the other CSM armies, and that was it. 2) Anime Expo runs MUCH more efficiently than Comikazee. The moderately-long line for pre-registration badge pickup moved constantly at a brisk pace; you scanned the barcode on your pre-registration email at one of the 20(!) scanning stations, and their on-demand badge printing had you printed up by the time you walked another 5 feet. I wish Adepticon could adopt something so effective, though it would likely be overkill (a full order of magnitude difference in attendee levels). 3) No "fish bowl" effect; the tabletop & console gaming was in a completely separate hall, which required a different level of badge from general con-trawlers, and we were in a fenced-off area in the back corner of that. A few respectful spectators came by, but I didn't see anyone touching models or making comments. 4) 2:15 is still proving to be a tight window for 1750 games; 6e is just plain slower, especially given the random elements. For example, I have 15 rolls to make before every game, and while I have a handy cheat sheet for my army made up, so I just have to circle the appropriate result for every roll I make, it still takes a few minutes simply because my opponent needs to know what I'm doing with each roll. qballony wrote:Sorry Blackmoor. I tried! I got 2nd but didn't get a chance to play Kevin. I played Tau for the first time in round 4...let them go first...yeah so that happened...so i wasn't on the final table.
That triple-riptide list is pretty brutal, unless you've got 2+ invulnerable saves available. Which I had, when I played against it.
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Post by: Blackmoor
I had plans last weekend and I almost blew them off to go.
I really like the BAO format/missions.
5 Games over the weekend seems about right. The way that most GT level events are getting up to 7 and 8 games makes the whole weekend unenjoyable.
I am glad that FW was a non-factor. There are a lot of new toys and armies out there now that GW went on a book printing frenzy and most people do not need it. I still think that limits are needed on it just so that someone does not bring 12 hyperios launchers or an IG artillery army. The fact that someone hasn’t does not mean that someone won’t.
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Post by: qballony
Yeah i was more worried about the ion head...with all the riptides he was only deleting about one squad a turn...it was mainly the markerlights uping BS on stuff. Was expecting a lot more ignore cover.
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Post by: Reecius
Really happy to hear that everyone enjoyed themselves!
Event recap here, results coming tomorrow: http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2013/07/08/anime-expo-is-a-wrap/
We had a great time, and everything from watching some of us break dance on the sidewalk outside the bar we went to Friday night, to the Coplayers, to the fun people at the tournament made it a really fun event.
Congratz to the winners and thanks to everyone who came out and made it fun! Next year will be bigger I am sure, everyone left this year with a positive experience and we had some first time tournament players that all said fun and were looking forward to coming back.
@ReaperOfTheLost
I hope you didn't take it personally, buddy, the wooden spoon is a joke prize meant to lighten the sting of getting last place on battle points. There was no offense at all intended. Your Crons looked awesome though.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Is that a frying pan that says "Dakka Dakka"?
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Post by: Janthkin
Almost. I made some custom dice trays for Dakka Detachment One a few years back. 9" cake pan, lined around the edges with foam, with a decal applied to the bottom & then covered in clear resin. Works well for keeping dice containing & level, which speeds up game play for armies like Tyranids & Daemons, who are rolling buckets of dice during the game. Every second counts!
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Post by: Reecius
Yeah, it does help a lot, plus it makes things like cocked dice a non issue for the most part. If it doesn't land in the tray, it doesn't count.
We may have to move to 2 hours 30 minutes at 1750pts. The 2 hour 15 minute limit just fits and it saves 45 minutes to an hour off a typical day of gaming which makes a big difference.
@Blackmoor
Too bad you couldn't make it, buddy, would have been good to have you. The event was a lot of fun.
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Post by: hotsauceman1
Where exactly was this held? I have an uncle down there who i could mooch off of if I do go next year.
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Post by: Dude_I_Suck
The LA convention center, gaming hall was on the west hall.
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Post by: ReaperOfTheLost
Reecius wrote:
@ReaperOfTheLost
I hope you didn't take it personally, buddy, the wooden spoon is a joke prize meant to lighten the sting of getting last place on battle points. There was no offense at all intended. Your Crons looked awesome though.
No none taken, I had fun and got to meet some really cool players. My wife just has a sick sense of humor and I thought you guys might find if funny.
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Post by: Blackmoor
Did anyone end up taking the gold line? And if they did, how was it?
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Whats the gold line? Automatically Appended Next Post: also posted game one of my bat reports for the weekend.
http://theadventuresofeldar.wordpress.com/2013/07/09/anime-expo-battle-report-1/
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Blackmoor wrote:Did anyone end up taking the gold line? And if they did, how was it?
I took it day 2. It was fine, only took 5 more minutes than driving and I got to read on the way down which is always a bonus since I never seem to have enough time to read anymore.
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Post by: lajollagrad
I had a hell of a time. Between hanging with good people all weekend, playing hammer, and a strong dance dance revolution session with a fellow named Grant... I think I'll show up again next year.
I still can't believe I fell short against Janthkin... the game still haunts me.
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