Guess it wasn't just a rumor after all.... A measly $11,690.00. I'm sure everyone will pick up a dozen on the way home from work.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440270a&prodId=prod2160196a

ETA:
This pic shows what GW actually thinks the chapter organization looks like, though.

So who's brave enough to calculate how much you can "save" with a single click?

Also, my price is saying $14,140...

Sweet googly. Though if I had won the lottery.

that 14,140 in Canadian?

Does it at least come with a commemorative box that says "You'll never paint all of this in your lifetime" on the cover?

Read the extras as well they're pretty awesome; Jervis Johnson comes round your house and says he wishes they still did Epic and the RRP should be lowered by a third as long as you don't tell anyone, Jes Goodwin promises to listen to your ideas for how to make Squats cooler than Dark Eldar and Jeremy Vetock says he'll read your fan fiction when he gets a minute.

There's a bunch of vehicles included in that, too. Almost every squad has some form of transport. (Shown in individual company pics on the website.)

Well, as the last thread was locked..

This collection includes
1 box of Marneus Calgar and Honour Guard;
1 Chief Librarian Tigurius;
1 Chaplain Cassius;
1 Space Marine Captain in Terminator Armour;
1 Space Marine Terminator Chaplain;
1 Captain Sicarius;
1 box of Space Marine Masters of the Chapter;
1 Space Marine Captain: Lord Executioner;
1 Space Marine Captain: Master of the Marches;
1 Space Marine Captain: Master of the Rites;
1 Space Marine Captain: Master of Relics;
3 Space Marine Command Squads;
2 Space Marine Librarians;
1 Space Marine Librarian in Terminator Armour;
1 Space Marine Librarian with staff & book;
1 Space Marine Librarian with Force Sword and Bolt Pistol;
1 Space Marine Librarian with Force Axe and Plasma Pistol;
3 Space Marine Chaplains with Crozius and Power Fist;
3 Space Marine Chaplains with skull helmet;
1 Space Marine Chaplain with Crozius and Bolt Pistol;
1 Space Marine Chaplain with Crozius and Plasma Pistol;
1 Space Marine Chaplain with Jump Pack;
8 Space Marine Terminator Squads;
4 Space Marine Terminator Close Combat Squads;
4 Space Marine Vanguard Veteran Squads;
4 Space Marine Sternguard Veteran Squads;
39 Space Marine Tactical Squads;
47 Space Marine Rhinos;
4 Space Marine Drop Pods;
14 Space Marine Assault Squads;
14 Space Marine Devastator Squads;
12 Space Marine Centurion Devastator Squads;
4 Space Marine Razorbacks;
2 Space Marine Techmarines;
4 Space Marine Thunderfire Cannons;
7 Space Marine Dreadnoughts;
5 Space Marine Ironclad Dreadnoughts;
1 Space Marine Sergeant Chronus;
7 Space Marine Land Raiders;
3 Space Marine Land Raider Crusader/Redeemers;
7 Space Marine Stalker/Hunters;
2 Space Marine Vindicators;
5 Space Marine Predators;
3 Space Marine Whirlwinds;
3 Stormraven Gunships;
7 Space Marine Stormtalon Gunships;
13 Space Marine Bike Squads;
1 Space Marine Bike; 5 Space Marine Attack Bikes;
11 Space Marine Land Speeders;
1 Space Marine Sergeant Telion;
10 boxes of Space Marine Scouts;
4 boxes of Space Marine Scouts with Sniper Rifles;
5 Space Marine Land Speeder Storms;
6 Space Marine Strikeforces.

 Necros wrote:
Does it at least come with a commemorative box that says "You'll never paint all of this in your lifetime" on the cover?

Dude have you SEEN the apocalypse armies some people have?

Wow... in that photo, it looks like they are tiny. You can almost imagine them being very small (lets just say 6mm tall as way of example) and surrounded by tanks, titans and that kind of stuff? You could even make up rules that worked well at that kind of scale, and with that level of abstraction..

I wonder why they never thought of such a thing?

'Cos no one would ever want to play like that!

They might have more luck selling individual companies.

Pic doesn't show all the vehicles either....

I would pay it, IF it were all painted in the chapter of my choosing & came with lmtd edition codex & lmtd edition rulebook & carry cases for everything, plus dice, templates, Apoc lmtd book(s).....

and a thank you card....

all hand deliverded by Kayden Kross....

Man up. I am getting my chapters.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
Pic doesn't show all the vehicles either....

I would pay it, IF it were all painted in the chapter of my choosing & came with lmtd edition codex & lmtd edition rulebook & carry cases for everything, plus dice, templates, Apoc lmtd book(s).....

and a thank you card....

all hand deliverded by Kayden Kross....

I agree with you, not the Kayden Kross bit but more with the sentiment that for the amount you're paying you'd think they'd offer a bit more incentive to buy it as opposed to just offering a mountain of the standard boxes of units.

For all of it's pomposity It seems fantastically unimaginative. Apart from the big price tag, where's the 'wow' factor?

Add some Thunderhawks, super limited to just this bundle type stuff. Some individual books, signed by the staff.

If you were serious enough about Warhammer 40k to want to splash out £7k in one go you'd hit the discounters, right? Mind you, said discounters would never be able to get that much kit in for one purchase, I guess.

They do give a few "extras," but I'd bet they're added to the cost.

Alongside the entire Chapter of Space Marines you'll also receive a signed copy of Codex: Space Marines; a signed copy of Insignium Astartes (the definitive guide to the heraldries and squad markings of the Ultramarines); a full Chapter organisation chart; a breakdown of the composition of each of the 10 companies; a signed art print of the Codex: Space Marines book cover; and a signed art print of Paul Dainton's painting of the Ultramarines assembled for battle.

My two cents:
7k on ebay.

let me boldly assume...

Assembed race of choice.

And probably a quarter of that army primed/painted?

Cheers.

Wow... in that photo, it looks like they are tiny. You can almost imagine them being very small (lets just say 6mm tall as way of example) and surrounded by tanks, titans and that kind of stuff? You could even make up rules that worked well at that kind of scale, and with that level of abstraction..

I wonder why they never thought of such a thing?

Pfft. Probably because it would be dumb. I mean, who would ever think of playing something like that? Good god, even if people actually liked it (doubtful) GW would just kill it off and then all the fans would have to support it on the internet, and people would pray for more minis and GW would ignore them, even though they already have molds in existence and would make sales.


Yeah...right. That's likely.

Soooo - who's going to figure out how many points this would be in the new codex?

Buy a whole chapter... ain't nobody got time to assembly and paint it all!
Buy a whole chapter... ain't nobody got time to find an opponent that want to play over 1500pts

Any other ?

Epic!

I have no idea what kind of person buys this? A multi-millionaire? That's the only kind of person that could dump $12,000 at once like that for something like this.

This made me laugh

These kits comes supplied unpainted and require assembly - we recommend using Citadel Plastic Glue, Citadel Super Glue and Citadel Paints... and you're going to need lots!

£7,065 and they can't throw in a few pots of glue...

Has no forgeworld, worst buy ever

Why on earth would you expect FW included in a core GW bundle.

GW main and Forgeworld are seperate

If you reallly REALLY had a hard-on for Marines and wanted to spend a week happily gluing a whole chapter together, it could be a good deal (as long as you were seriously mondo wealthy enough not to care about the price tag).

Then you could buy whatever you wanted from FW to finish it up.

 Scrub wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
Pic doesn't show all the vehicles either....

I would pay it, IF it were all painted in the chapter of my choosing & came with lmtd edition codex & lmtd edition rulebook & carry cases for everything, plus dice, templates, Apoc lmtd book(s).....

and a thank you card....

all hand deliverded by Kayden Kross....

I agree with you, not the Kayden Kross bit but more with the sentiment that for the amount you're paying you'd think they'd offer a bit more incentive to buy it as opposed to just offering a mountain of the standard boxes of units.

I dunno, if she did deliver it to your door then I'd consider the purchase.

In my currency that saves 11% off the retail price.
As it includes 6 strike forces, which themselves are 30% off the retail price then the savings is more.
You also get signed copies of the codex, insignium, and artwork.
There don't appear to be any scout bikes in this deal.
I think for the price they should also throw in a year's subscription to WD. Or is this their way of admitting that WD is just an advertising publication so someone who's just bought a chapter isn't likely to be buying anymore minis for awhile?

Has anyone bought any of the various company box sets?

GW should have sold a company-sized box and marketed it as $1,000 complete with paints/glue/FW stuff and a codex. They could actually have gotten somewhere with that, imo.

If you're wealthy enough to afford this, you're probably wealthy enough to hire someone to help assemble and paint this. I'd think this would make a good group buy though. Of course any group with the money to buy this probably has loads of marines anyway. We shall wait and see.


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 Harriticus wrote:
GW should have sold a company-sized box and marketed it as $1,000 complete with paints/glue/FW stuff and a codex. They could actually have gotten somewhere with that, imo.

No thanks, a boxed company is pricey enough in one go, having to spend an extra few hundred on paint when I already have paint would put me off buying such a thing. A lot of people don't use GW paints anyway. Including a complimentary codex which could then be on sold is not a bad idea though. Some super glue for any finecast or metal models though would be nice. Plastic glue I'd prefer to source myself.

Edited by AgeOfEgos--let's keep the back/forth out of this thread please.

Edited by AgeOfEgos--let's keep the back/forth out of this thread please.

What's next, a whole Legion from forge world?

Well, it does say:

We will also contact you personally to arrange a delivery time that is convenient for you, so please ensure that the contact details which accompany your order are accurate and up to date.

So it does make me curious just how big the packaging for $US 12k worth of models is.

Edit: 47 rhinos.

Yeah, I wonder if they are shipping it in individual boxes or if you get one huge crate with all the sprues just dumped into it?

I may get two.

If you buy 30 you've basically bought a new house.

 Harriticus wrote:
If you buy 30 you've basically bought a new house.

That would be $330,000. I could buy 2 of my old house for that and nearly 2 of my new house for that.

 vitki wrote:
Yeah, I wonder if they are shipping it in individual boxes or if you get one huge crate with all the sprues just dumped into it?

There would have to be some sort of organization, right? I mean, short of the special characters, it might get a little overwhelming matching things up at first glance.

That's got to be one huge box of cereal by the way.

 Harriticus wrote:
If you buy 30 you've basically bought a new house.

No, you've bought someone at GW a new house. On the plus side, your bix box will be the envy of the neighbourhood.

I'd like those art prints. Wish they sold them (unsigned) separate.

They'd have to ship in their retail boxes, it would get too jumbled up.
The Battle Company that came with the original release of Apocalypse had all the sprues stacked naked in the box.
That was fine as it was just a 100 or so marines and a few rhinos.
A chapter would get messy instead if done like that. There is also danger that the sprues themselves might get damaged rubbing together with so many of them pushing down on each other.

 Scrub wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
Pic doesn't show all the vehicles either....
I would pay it, IF it were all painted in the chapter of my choosing & came with lmtd edition codex & lmtd edition rulebook & carry cases for everything, plus dice, templates, Apoc lmtd book(s).....
and a thank you card....
all hand deliverded by Kayden Kross....

I agree with you, not the Kayden Kross bit but more with the sentiment that for the amount you're paying you'd think they'd offer a bit more incentive to buy it as opposed to just offering a mountain of the standard boxes of units.

Well, I'd never heard of Kayden Kross before this thread (just googled her) and so I guess we can agree that something good came out of GW's chapter deal after all...

WAY to much to be spending on man-dollies

I think you'd O.D. on glue fumes before you even get half way thru this.

I'm kinda confused by there being only two Vindicators.

Yeah, a part of me is curious on only one thing: if GW calculated to the dime what it would cost if the whole thing was ordered by kits.

Chapters have thunderhawks. Where are the thunderhawks?

Here's a kicker. How about If someone buys it they'll advance the storyline

'And after the entire UM chapter went missing, the imperium crumbled and fell inwards'

Might be worth it just for that...

BairdEC wrote:
'Cos no one would ever want to play like that!

Correction: no one would spend $12,000 playing that.

I mean no one's going to buy this gak either, but still.

 Harriticus wrote:
If you buy 30 you've basically bought a new house.

I could keep a roof over my head for a year in a major metropolitan area or buy more Space Marines than I could conceivably paint in the next decade of my life.

 Harriticus wrote:
I have no idea what kind of person buys this? A multi-millionaire? That's the only kind of person that could dump $12,000 at once like that for something like this.

Though someone will inevitably buy it, it isn't really intended to be purchased. It's like the diamond bra from Victorias Secret... Except for nerds.

When I found out that this was true I could only think of Ian Malcom's line in Jurassic Park when he first sees the Brachiasaurus. "You did it, you crazy son of a bitch you did it"

This truly takes some balls on the part of gw...but hey, if they sell even one I'm sure it'll be worth it. They have the stock anyway.

when you absolutely positively need a 100% guarantee that your wife will divorce you, it's just a few clicks away.

Its 17k in Oz and I had to stop laughing.
I mean yeah I have a plastic crack addition but still wouldn't drop 17k at once unless its FW.

 Void_walker wrote:
Its 17k in Oz and I had to stop laughing.
I mean yeah I have a plastic crack addition but still wouldn't drop 17k at once unless its FW.

It's obscene isn't it?

I have a feeling that this is the result of an office betting pool, while it likely began as a joke wagering has been placed to see if somebody actually buys one.

 Liquid Squid wrote:
What's next, a whole Legion from forge world?

That would make this look like chump change, a 15 man strong squad with a small amount of discount for buying the set is £160: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/LEGION_MKIII_TACTICAL_SQUAD.html

I've been collecting my UM chapter for years and I'm finally getting to the end of building and painting it, I cannot imagine the living nightmare that it would be to have all this turn up at once and have to build and paint it.

I've done marines and guard in batches of 80 before now and even using a few tricks (like leaving the guns off the models and spraying them silver, base coating in blue with army painter spray, etc.) it is still an horrendous PITA to sit down and paint. I could only do one layer of one colour at a time so strong was the urge to chuck everything across the room.

Looky Likey wrote:

 Liquid Squid wrote:
What's next, a whole Legion from forge world?

That would make this look like chump change, a 15 man strong squad with a small amount of discount for buying the set is £160: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/LEGION_MKIII_TACTICAL_SQUAD.html

I've been collecting my UM chapter for years and I'm finally getting to the end of building and painting it, I cannot imagine the living nightmare that it would be to have all this turn up at once and have to build and paint it.

I've done marines and guard in batches of 80 before now and even using a few tricks (like leaving the guns off the models and spraying them silver, base coating in blue with army painter spray, etc.) it is still an horrendous PITA to sit down and paint. I could only do one layer of one colour at a time so strong was the urge to chuck everything across the room.

buying 200 worth from a discounter is overwhelming enough as it is.

It's a nice idea.
After all it' not costing GW anything, and it's certainly got people talking about it.

I worked out the points of a chapter (using the old codex/army builder) and coincidentally it comes in at around 40.000pts.
I wonder if that's intentional.

What amazes me is that GW managed to make a $12k bundle that is incredibly boring. No customization, no cool FW kits to add diversity, just a giant pile of the same old boring stuff everyone else has. It's like they decided to drain all the fun out of dreaming about owning an entire chapter.

I've got a feeling that this deal (well, I called it a 'deal', more of a 'convienent way to pay retail on a large order) is meant more to drum up discussion than to actually make money.

I mean, aside from sci-fi-geek-multi-millionaires no-one is going to buy this (and even if I was a multi-millionaire with this kind of money to burn I still wouldn't buy it, for that kind of money I can hire a half-decent costume maker to produce a bunch of power armour costumes complete with NERF gun bolters, then gather my friends and go LARPing as SMs).

But when you consider the amount of interest it has generated (I mean, look at the frothing cauldron of nerdrage it's generated here on Dakka, enough for a thread to be locked and another to be spawned, it's done it's job.

It's one of those things - if you had the money and could justify it - you'd probably do it. Though you'd need the mini painter equivalent of the A-team to help assemble and paint it, then make the scaled fleet it all goes in

Hell apart from the signed stuff, the least they could do is throw in 2 dozen cans of the blue paint and plastic glue bottles as part of the deal.

Still it's impressive to see at least but almost wholly impractical unless you and 10 very good/reliable friends split the cost and took a Company each, maybe

I think the thread was locked because it was a duplicate?

As peregrine says really the only thing you can say about it is that.. well, it's just dull. I can't imagine, even if you had the money and wanted to collect a truck-load of marines, why you would want to buy it.

There is also the ineffable law of wargaming, that says games with that many troops in a game should not be played at 28mm

 Leigen_Zero wrote:
I've got a feeling that this deal (well, I called it a 'deal', more of a 'convienent way to pay retail on a large order) is meant more to drum up discussion than to actually make money.

But it's pretty disappointing if that's the goal. Besides the fact that the entire discussion is "wow, GW is really stupid" it's just not a very interesting news item. They picked the absolute blandest way to make a full marine chapter, with nothing at all to inspire you to dream about owning it. It's got all of the "thrill" of managing a game store and ordering your monthly inventory.

 warspawned wrote:
It's one of those things - if you had the money and could justify it - you'd probably do it.

No, I really wouldn't. I could think of countless better ways of spending that much money, even if I had to spend it all on 40k.

You are right of course. It gets people talking, and hey, if someone actually buys it - then great - they made a bunch of sales they wouldn't have otherwise got.

Why people choose to get all bent out of shape over what is essentially a publicity gimmick truly escapes me...

This is the kind of stuff GW needs to have on their website just in case someone's 2 year old accidentally taps the Ipad a couple of times too many.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Leigen_Zero wrote:
I've got a feeling that this deal (well, I called it a 'deal', more of a 'convienent way to pay retail on a large order) is meant more to drum up discussion than to actually make money.

But it's pretty disappointing if that's the goal. Besides the fact that the entire discussion is "wow, GW is really stupid" it's just not a very interesting news item. They picked the absolute blandest way to make a full marine chapter, with nothing at all to inspire you to dream about owning it. It's got all of the "thrill" of managing a game store and ordering your monthly inventory.

But it's got us all talking about space marines...

It's a gimmick (regardless of it's quality) that is designed to get people to visit the GW online store, and while all of us on Dakka may scoff haughtily in our parlours over a snifter of brandy, the bean-counters over at GW HQ know that for every X number of people that go to the store to look at the £7000 uber-deal, Y fraction of those people will think 'well I don't want a whole chapter, maybe just a battleforce and a few pots of paint'.

Its the same principle as those 'extreme eating' challenges at restaurants, they know that 90% won't attempt the burger the size of a car tyre, but enough people will have heard about it to want to eat there, just so they can say they ate a restaurant that served a burger the size of a car tyre.

I shudder to think of how many mold lines that is to file.

This is exactly like the 1 million USD Saints Row IV deal where you had 2 cars and a trip overseas and a mansion stay included.

They don't intend you to buy this.

They want you to talk about it.

If you buy this and you see the big box full of similar grey plastic arms, leggs and torsos, you realise you have bought yourself a depression.

Here's part I don't understand. The description states, "4 Space Marine Drop Pods" but the picture of the 3rd Company shows 10 drop pods. Was "4" a misprint? Or are we being shorted?

The price is silly of course, if anything it highlights exactly how expensive plastic space marines have become, however, as a modeler foremost and a gamer only part time, I would love that big box.

The sheer amount of parts you would have to make a custom space marine force is just a converters wet dream really.

Too expensive for anyone who works to pay their bills I should think, but if you had real money and were into space marines, why not.

 Breotan wrote:
Here's part I don't understand. The description states, "4 Space Marine Drop Pods" but the picture of the 3rd Company shows 10 drop pods. Was "4" a misprint? Or are we being shorted?

There's a Drop Pod in the 6 Space Marine strike forces. - That makes the numbers up.

No Thunderhawks.. what mockery is this?

I'm going to lay my hand on my heart and be honest about something...

I'm pretty sure I've got near enough 3 companies of marines already...

With very few purchases, and if you include things like bikers, I'm pretty sure I'm theoretically close to having a 1st Company, Assault Company and Battle Company. Yes, I am slightly concerned...

 Compel wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
Here's part I don't understand. The description states, "4 Space Marine Drop Pods" but the picture of the 3rd Company shows 10 drop pods. Was "4" a misprint? Or are we being shorted?

There's a Drop Pod in the 6 Space Marine strike forces. - That makes the numbers up.

Ah, yes. I forgot about that. Thanks.

So, assuming I didn't fat-finger anything the total retail in USD is $13182.00. The deal is listed at $11,690.00. Discount on buying separate is 11.4%

So, as exciting as this all is and as rare as discounts from GW are, I'm not going to lose any sleep because of it.

 Alkasyn wrote:
This is exactly like the 1 million USD Saints Row IV deal where you had 2 cars and a trip overseas and a mansion stay included.

They don't intend you to buy this.

They want you to talk about it.

The difference is that the Saints Row IV deal was ridiculously expensive because they were just throwing in a ton of crazy gak like cars, week-long international holidays and a trip into space. The Ultramarines deal is ridiculously expensive because individual miniatures are ridiculously expensive.

A short while back, I tried to compile the inventory for a fully manned Space Marine Chapter. I based it off the Ultramarine list in 3rd Ed but excluded fliers as they're supposedly part of the Fleet and not a specific Battle or Reserv Company. The actual cost of a fully stocked Chapter will blow your mind. Link to that discussion below:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/549095.page#6049388

If anyone here is buying this, feel free to shout one to me - it'd be a nice gesture y'know...

Well I for one think this is very appealing. We are talking about owning an entire Space Marine Chapter. An entire one. It is the ultimate collection, pretty much the pinnacle of what it is to be a part of the miniature wargaming hobby. When you think about it like that, ~10,000-20,000 £/$/€ for the whole package is an awesome offer.

KirbyFan wrote:
Well I for one think this is very appealing. We are talking about owning an entire Space Marine Chapter. An entire one. It is the ultimate collection, pretty much the pinnacle of what it is to be a part of the miniature wargaming hobby.

I do not believe those words mean what you think they mean.

WTF ROTFL!
I suppose there's no economical crisis in Nottingham...
this, or they're plain trolling us. they can't be serious...

Just calculated it all, in Europe you save
*drums for tension*
1186,50 euro
And that's excluding the free codex and all the other signed stuff it comes with...


(Atleast GW got a little tiny bit of sense out of the Iyanden 24 hour failure)

 Ouze wrote:

KirbyFan wrote:
Well I for one think this is very appealing. We are talking about owning an entire Space Marine Chapter. An entire one. It is the ultimate collection, pretty much the pinnacle of what it is to be a part of the miniature wargaming hobby.

I do not believe those words mean what you think they mean.

Don't feed it.. !

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
Chapters have thunderhawks. Where are the thunderhawks?

You're thinking too small, Chapters have a fleet. I want a 28mm scale Battlebarge before I even consider this 'generous' offer.

I think it is a fun idea and it certainly got us talking about it, though the value of that in a group of people that already passes a lot of time talking about GW/Space Marines is debateable.

Value wise it seems a good deal for someone who has $13,000 to spare and wants the kudos of owning an entire chapter, essentially a piece of low utility conspicuous consumption.

Unlike a sports car, though, it won't help you get girls.

If I was to open a wargames campaign centre, I would certainly consider this as a good way to get all the SMs needed even for very large games.

Wowzers, my lil bro showed me this earlier.... I'm speechless really, but just imagine how many points that sucker is in 2nd Ed? (The only edition worth playing btw).

I'm currently saving to buy a house at the moment and have nearly £4,000 after just 3 months of saving.... If I waited for another 3 months and 'Lost' the deposit, do you guys reckon that the wife would notice

I could have it sent to my parents house and claim it was hackers....

 Ruglud wrote:
This made me laugh

These kits comes supplied unpainted and require assembly - we recommend using Citadel Plastic Glue, Citadel Super Glue and Citadel Paints... and you're going to need lots!

£7,065 and they can't throw in a few pots of glue...

Or the Sculpted Shoulder Pads.

Oops... accidentally purchase it. Dam One-Click Deal, it is too easy to purchase...

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Unlike a sports car, though, it won't help you get girls.

I don't know what FLGS you attend, but pretty much the only reason I got into wargaming was the women. It's a little tiresome after a while though; you're all OK, "lets do 1500 points of Ultramarines"; and who shows up tipsy and looking to score? Emma Watson, again. Come on, Hermione, I'm trying to get my warhams on.

 Ouze wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Unlike a sports car, though, it won't help you get girls.

I don't know what FLGS you attend, but pretty much the only reason I got into wargaming was the women. It's a little tiresome after a while though; you're all OK, "lets do 1500 points of Ultramarines"; and who shows up tipsy and looking to score? Emma Watson, again. Come on, Hermione, I'm trying to get my warhams on.

You too huh?

 Pacific wrote:
Wow... in that photo, it looks like they are tiny. You can almost imagine them being very small (lets just say 6mm tall as way of example) and surrounded by tanks, titans and that kind of stuff? You could even make up rules that worked well at that kind of scale, and with that level of abstraction..

I wonder why they never thought of such a thing?

Well played

That's what Dropzone Commander is for now

 Ouze wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Unlike a sports car, though, it won't help you get girls.

I don't know what FLGS you attend, but pretty much the only reason I got into wargaming was the women. It's a little tiresome after a while though; you're all OK, "lets do 1500 points of Ultramarines"; and who shows up tipsy and looking to score? Emma Watson, again. Come on, Hermione, I'm trying to get my warhams on.

I've been to Iowa.

I know this is a lie.

I spent the last 20 minutes doing the math.

Retail price of the Chapter = $13,182.25
One-Click Savings = $1,492.25

Warstore price assuming 20% without shipping and sales tax = $10,545

This doesn't include the signed codex and the other goodies.

 Gabbi wrote:
WTF ROTFL!
I suppose there's no economical crisis in Nottingham...
this, or they're plain trolling us. they can't be serious...

Well clearly there is a crisis, look how desperate for money GW is.

How much does this cost if i get it from the warstore?

 AlexHolker wrote:

 Alkasyn wrote:
This is exactly like the 1 million USD Saints Row IV deal where you had 2 cars and a trip overseas and a mansion stay included.

They don't intend you to buy this.

They want you to talk about it.

The difference is that the Saints Row IV deal was ridiculously expensive because they were just throwing in a ton of crazy gak like cars, week-long international holidays and a trip into space. The Ultramarines deal is ridiculously expensive because individual miniatures are ridiculously expensive.

Agreed, but hte basic premise remains the same. This offer is more an advertisement than a product designed to make money.

Oh look, it's real. Just like was reported a month ago. Soooooo.... anyone from that thread wanna man up and apologise to the OP?

 Grimtuff wrote:
Oh look, it's real. Just like was reported a month ago. Soooooo.... anyone from that thread wanna man up and apologise to the OP?

Good luck with that.

Alpharius might, nkelsch definitely won't.

 marv335 wrote:
It's a nice idea.
After all it' not costing GW anything, and it's certainly got people talking about it.

I worked out the points of a chapter (using the old codex/army builder) and coincidentally it comes in at around 40.000pts.
I wonder if that's intentional.

Exactly this. I do backend e-commerce sites. This would take no time to make. You create one item that has all the other items as a child. Very easy to do. I am surprised they dont do more of this stuff. I mean the this one is just insane price-wise but small stuff in the 100-1000 price range people would by.

I agree with the guy that said it was done like an office bet or simply lets do it and see who buys it.

steve

I have some faint recollection of GW offering a similar sort of large bundle "deal" some years back... I think I heard of a group who coordinated a group buy where they split the contents. Probably the most reasonable thing to do short of realizing you should buy an army other than marines.

YakManDoo wrote:
I spent the last 20 minutes doing the math.

Retail price of the Chapter = $13,182.25
One-Click Savings = $1,492.25

Warstore price assuming 20% without shipping and sales tax = $10,545

This doesn't include the signed codex and the other goodies.

Warstore gives you free shipping on orders above $75, doesn't it? Buying an entire chapter at once would definitely qualify.... and I imagine you'd probably make Neal cry. That many miniatures can't be cheap to ship.

YakManDoo wrote:
I spent the last 20 minutes doing the math.

You could have just looked at my post on page three and used that twenty minutes to help out humanity instead.

I could have, but I'm a nihilist.

I noticed something really wonky about the company organization. So, one would expect GW to shovel in Centurions and Chibi-hawks, but that's no excuse for the 9th Company. See, after the recruits in the 10th Scout Company get promoted, they're supposed to move up to the 9th Devastator Company; the idea being a lascannon's range will keep the newbies safe. Scroll down to the 9th Company, lo and behold, not a single Devastator squad. Apparently the new doctrine is that you graduate straight from carapace armor to Centurion armor.

 DarkHound wrote:
I noticed something really wonky about the company organization. So, one would expect GW to shovel in Centurions and Chibi-hawks, but that's no excuse for the 9th Company. See, after the recruits in the 10th Scout Company get promoted, they're supposed to move up to the 9th Devastator Company; the idea being a lascannon's range will keep the newbies safe. Scroll down to the 9th Company, lo and behold, not a single Devastator squad. Apparently the new doctrine is that you graduate straight from carapace armor to Centurion armor.

Centurion Armour (which doesn't interface with the Carapace) is worn by a Devastator in Power-Armour. It's really just a fancy way of carrying a Heavy Bolter (or 2).

Not a single devastator squad aside from the... 7 devastator squads?

Although I thought that new bit of background about the marines becoming devasators first makes no sense, in the context of them being scouts before-hand and doing the most dangerous, special-forces type actions..

Although presumably after wearing the Centurion armour they might be a bit less fashion-conscious in their future roles. Kind of like having a crappy jalopy as your first car when you are a teenager, anything you get after that feels like an improvement.

Whoops, never mind me.

 DarkHound wrote:
I noticed something really wonky about the company organization. So, one would expect GW to shovel in Centurions and Chibi-hawks, but that's no excuse for the 9th Company. See, after the recruits in the 10th Scout Company get promoted, they're supposed to move up to the 9th Devastator Company; the idea being a lascannon's range will keep the newbies safe. Scroll down to the 9th Company, lo and behold, not a single Devastator squad. Apparently the new doctrine is that you graduate straight from carapace armor to Centurion armor.

This make so much sens! You got +1 from me!

tempted to order it on my card then ,send it back the next day just to get there hopes up lol

 Qcbob wrote:
This make so much sens! You got +1 from me!

There's very clearly 7 Devastator Squads in the 9th company.

Honestly if someone has the cash to buy this they have the cash to pay someone to assemble and paint it.

I wonder how much the shipping charge would be for that....LOL is it still 50 dollars express if you pay over 100 dollars lol

Required army transportation not included

 StyleXHobby wrote:
Required army transportation not included

Ahhhhh...

Now it makes sense. GW is planning on releasing a series of branded trucks designed to carry Armegeddon forces. Armegeddon will be the next step up from Apocalypse. It also gives them the chance to get into real estate with their branded gaming halls for playing Armegeddon battles.
It's all about diversifying.




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 Palindrome wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
Chapters have thunderhawks. Where are the thunderhawks?

You're thinking too small, Chapters have a fleet. I want a 28mm scale Battlebarge before I even consider this 'generous' offer.

Now imagine if a commercial airliner was converted to look like a battle barge

 Pacific wrote:
Although I thought that new bit of background about the marines becoming devasators first makes no sense, in the context of them being scouts before-hand and doing the most dangerous, special-forces type actions..

Although presumably after wearing the Centurion armour they might be a bit less fashion-conscious in their future roles. Kind of like having a crappy jalopy as your first car when you are a teenager, anything you get after that feels like an improvement.

I just ignore whichever bits of new (or old) fluff they add on that seem particularly stupid.

anyone have 12k to offer to a broke college student?

Where's the Space Wolf version??

really dont get this one (even less than their other one click "deals").

People who have $10k+ to drop on one purchase for gaming will not be doing this. They will maybe look at a few hundred vanilla plastic figures and than add in some Forge World figures, bits and pieces from 3rd party companies and maybe even have a character or two custom sculpted. With discounts and what not, you would likely be paying about the same and not just getting a couple hundred boxes of vanilla marines.

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:

 Qcbob wrote:
This make so much sens! You got +1 from me!

There's very clearly 7 Devastator Squads in the 9th company.

The problem is there isn't 100 Space Marines. There's 12 Centurions taking the place of 30 normal Marines (2 squads of 3 and one of 6). Whenever they've swapped out a Devastator or Assault squad for Centurions, they've left it at 3 or 6 Marines, when it should still be 10 going by squad and company numbers. So wherever they swap in Centurions they really should be swapping in 10, not 3 or 6, regardless of how the squad works in game, since they're meant to be selling a full chapter. They're quite frankly not doing that.

Coming up: for the easy price of $1,065,000 you too can have an accurate reflection of the Third War for Armageddon, including Space Marine, IG, SoB, Titan, and Ork armies!

 -Loki- wrote:

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:

 Qcbob wrote:
This make so much sens! You got +1 from me!

There's very clearly 7 Devastator Squads in the 9th company.

The problem is there isn't 100 Space Marines. There's 12 Centurions taking the place of 30 normal Marines (2 squads of 3 and one of 6). Whenever they've swapped out a Devastator or Assault squad for Centurions, they've left it at 3 or 6 Marines, when it should still be 10 going by squad and company numbers. So wherever they swap in Centurions they really should be swapping in 10, not 3 or 6, regardless of how the squad works in game, since they're meant to be selling a full chapter. They're quite frankly not doing that.

They died

Okay so i just calcluated
so 90 x 12 = 108000
so
1052100 / 108000= 9.741 per model (give or take, minus tanks)

So....
A tactical squad = 45$
45 x 10800 = 486000

Its cheaper to buy 45$ packs than to buy the astartes ultra complete chapter

Well my my. Math nerd ftw!

Why isn't GW offering a life time membership with this purchase as well as a three year discount on all their products and a hobbyist pension to go with it?? You'll be living in a cardboard box eating 2 minute noodles for the next 3 years after that purchase.

 Asherian Command wrote:
Okay so i just calcluated
so 90 x 12 = 108000
so
1052100 / 108000= 9.741 per model (give or take, minus tanks)

So....
A tactical squad = 45$
45 x 10800 = 486000

Its cheaper to buy 45$ packs than to buy the astartes ultra complete chapter

Well my my. Math nerd ftw!

All I got out of that was 1080 which is a type of poison.
1080 btw is what 90 x 12 is, whatever 90 and 12 refer to, not 108000 or 10800.

One click seems like a lot of work to me. GW should work out a way to auto-fill your shopping cart with this as soon as you land on their site.

I've been laughing uproariously at this "deal" for the past 15 minutes straight.

On a more somber note, there is something fundamentally wrong with their accounting and marketing strategy...

The others are driving the vehicles.

Besides, 1k marines is a nominal strength.

Does this thing have Land Speeders? If not, there's something more significant to bitch about (frankly, any bitching in this thread about this "deal" is sadly misplaced...)

It has 11 land speeders and 5 land speeder storms. It has no scout bikes though, otherwise it pretty much has everything in the non-Chapter specific range.

Wait until the BT one comes out you don't know how many models you get until it arrives.

 -Loki- wrote:

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:

 Qcbob wrote:
This make so much sens! You got +1 from me!

There's very clearly 7 Devastator Squads in the 9th company.

The problem is there isn't 100 Space Marines. There's 12 Centurions taking the place of 30 normal Marines (2 squads of 3 and one of 6). Whenever they've swapped out a Devastator or Assault squad for Centurions, they've left it at 3 or 6 Marines, when it should still be 10 going by squad and company numbers. So wherever they swap in Centurions they really should be swapping in 10, not 3 or 6, regardless of how the squad works in game, since they're meant to be selling a full chapter. They're quite frankly not doing that.

9th Company per bundle:

Command Squad: 5 Marines
Squad 1-7: 70 Marines
Squad 8-10: 12 Marines
Rhino x4: 4 Marines (driver)
Razorback x4: 4 Marines (driver & remote/auto guns) or 8 Marines (driver & gunner)
Land Raider: 2 Marines (driver, commander)
Land Speeder x3: 6 Marines (driver, gunner)
Whirlwind x3: 6 Marines (driver, gunner)
Hunter x2: 4 Marines (driver, gunner)
Captain
Chaplain
Librarian
Techmarine

Total: 117 Space Marines in the 9th Company.

Or you know, maths.


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Quick total number of the Chapter:

1st Company: 123
2nd Company: 125
3rd Company: 105
4th Company: 117
5th Company: 120
6th Company: 120
7th Company: 126
8th Company: 118
9th Company: 117
10th Company: 133

Total: 1204 Space Marines

There are two extra companies in there! Somebody call the Codex Police! This is heresy!

Personally, I'd like to know what the additional cost is to totally pimp it out into a BT crusade.

Say, two BT upgrade packs per 10 marines.

'Cause then it would be SO worth it

Techmarines, drivers, pilots, support and command personnel aren't counted towards the total.

It's 100 battle brothers, the basic marines and their sergeant.

 Civik wrote:
Techmarines, drivers, pilots, support and command personnel aren't counted towards the total.

It's 100 battle brothers, the basic marines and their sergeant.

Got a source for that?

More of a plug than an advertisment. But you know how Battlefoam PACK system numbers their bags acroding to the number of infintary minitures you can fit into the bag? Well, the PACK1520 should be able to fit the entire infintary portion (1100 minitures) of the Ultramarine 1 click bundle, even accounting the larger terminators and special characters

It gives some perspective on how many minitures you are getting from GW and really how much minitures you can cram into a BF PACK1520 bag.

Tanks/Vehicles, that's another story.... anyone willing to do the match on how many extra cases you will need to fit all the vehicles?

 d-usa wrote:

 Civik wrote:
Techmarines, drivers, pilots, support and command personnel aren't counted towards the total.

It's 100 battle brothers, the basic marines and their sergeant.

Got a source for that?

I always thought it was just the accepted thing?

cadbren wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:
Okay so i just calcluated
so 90 x 12 = 108000
so
1052100 / 108000= 9.741 per model (give or take, minus tanks)

So....
A tactical squad = 45$
45 x 10800 = 486000

Its cheaper to buy 45$ packs than to buy the astartes ultra complete chapter

Well my my. Math nerd ftw!

All I got out of that was 1080 which is a type of poison.
1080 btw is what 90 x 12 is, whatever 90 and 12 refer to, not 108000 or 10800.

Thats Marines
so 1200 x 90 = 108000 so divide it by 10 for squads. 10800 x it by 45$ per a squad. and you have 486000$ in total

The drivers are usually taken from the Reserve companies. If every single marine took to the field you'd have a lot of 8 man tactical squads.

Logic.

Because if a company was at full strength, they would have closer to 130 marines.

Ten squads of ten = 100 marines
Commander and command squad = 11 marines (possibly more if there are more than a single apothecary.
Chaplain = 1 assuming he doesn't have any reclusiam marines at his side
Rhino drivers = 10 marines
Techmarine (just one? We can assume chapter serfs and servitors) = 1
Predator drivers and gunners = 6-10 marines
Dreadnaughts = usually from 0-4 marines.

Speeders and bikes aren't counted because these are usually drawn from assault brothers.

It would seriously deplete the strength of a company if there were only 100 maines. That would be 10 of 10 without any command support and their vehicles would be inert or running on machine spirit alone leaving them without fire support.

 d-usa wrote:

 Civik wrote:
Techmarines, drivers, pilots, support and command personnel aren't counted towards the total.

It's 100 battle brothers, the basic marines and their sergeant.

Got a source for that?

The latest codex for a start, its in another room and I'm too lazy to go and get it for a pg ref, but I remember noticing how it mentioned it, because I thought "ah, there's the answer to why 1000 Marines doesn't work when you factor in all the support roles"

 Civik wrote:
Logic.

Because if a company was at full strength, they would have closer to 130 marines.

Ten squads of ten = 100 marines
Commander and command squad = 11 marines (possibly more if there are more than a single apothecary.
Chaplain = 1 assuming he doesn't have any reclusiam marines at his side
Rhino drivers = 10 marines
Techmarine (just one? We can assume chapter serfs and servitors) = 1
Predator drivers and gunners = 6-10 marines
Dreadnaughts = usually from 0-4 marines.

Speeders and bikes aren't counted because these are usually drawn from assault brothers.

It would seriously deplete the strength of a company if there were only 100 maines. That would be 10 of 10 without any command support and their vehicles would be inert or running on machine spirit alone leaving them without fire support.

Stories and fluff talk about battle brothers driving. One of the books talked about other marines being offended that a serf has learned to fly one of their craft instead of a battle brother.

Crew are often seconded from reserve companies as well to support the regular companies in battle.

Crew are part of the regular Space Marine numbers, that's why there is a variance in chapter strength.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:


all hand deliverded by Kayden Kross....

Lol, better order it quick before she is a blimp! She is pregnant with the Porn Star she is dating's child!

I've been bored enough to work this out, I've gone off the list above and it's a saving of about £900. Surely not?!

I'm sure some poor GW minion will find a P45 winging its way in the post as we speak

2 of these and you can buy at least a 300 square meter house inside a nice, gated subdivision in the Philippines. Either the cost of living here is really low, or this is just really expensive. Or both.

Wonder how much it would cost if they do Black Templars.

 heartserenade wrote:
2 of these and you can buy at least a 300 square meter house inside a nice, gated subdivision in the Philippines. Either the cost of living here is really low, or this is just really expensive. Or both.

Wonder how much it would cost if they do Black Templars.

60,000$
From my Calculations

 d-usa wrote:

 Civik wrote:
Logic.

Because if a company was at full strength, they would have closer to 130 marines.

Ten squads of ten = 100 marines
Commander and command squad = 11 marines (possibly more if there are more than a single apothecary.
Chaplain = 1 assuming he doesn't have any reclusiam marines at his side
Rhino drivers = 10 marines
Techmarine (just one? We can assume chapter serfs and servitors) = 1
Predator drivers and gunners = 6-10 marines
Dreadnaughts = usually from 0-4 marines.

Speeders and bikes aren't counted because these are usually drawn from assault brothers.

It would seriously deplete the strength of a company if there were only 100 maines. That would be 10 of 10 without any command support and their vehicles would be inert or running on machine spirit alone leaving them without fire support.

Stories and fluff talk about battle brothers driving. One of the books talked about other marines being offended that a serf has learned to fly one of their craft instead of a battle brother.

Crew are often seconded from reserve companies as well to support the regular companies in battle.

Crew are part of the regular Space Marine numbers, that's why there is a variance in chapter strength.

SM drive them. but they're marines whose job it is to drive them. Most regular marines could probably drive a rhino for example if they were called upon to do so.

And most drivers could pick up a bolter and fight on the front line.

I think that the great primarch figured out that people could go "we will hide our regular marines in tanks, nobody will know that they are there" and counted them in their numbers.

They go through all the same training, all the same implants, all the same battles. But because they can drive a stick they don't count?

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
The drivers are usually taken from the Reserve companies. If every single marine took to the field you'd have a lot of 8 man tactical squads.

The 1-click bundle by GW is:

the Ultramarines chapter deployed at 888M41 at Orar.

Because the fluff at the GW site says so.

Count the infantry models. There is no one left to act as crew if there isn't more personnel than just 1k...
hint: they offer fieldable models ... not representations of models who may be fielded but some have to be spared because you "need" them to drive the vehicles they sold you.

The 1k was explained as: 10 companies > 10 Squads > 10 marines.
GW pics: 10 companies > 11 squads .....

Yes, because their duties to the chapter lie outside the scope of a battle brother. Many could drive it, but these marines have the technical aptitude to maintain their vehicles.

Drivers and gunners are beginning initiation into the machine cult(which is why they have the cog symbol on their shoulder pad opposite the chapter symbol) A very few move on to become techmarines.

For that money I would buy literally everything I ever wanted from GW and all other miniature companies and still save most of the money.

Really the volume alone of this deal is ridiculous, you would need to build a new room in your house just to store this...


We need to see a Nid full fleet now.

 1hadhq wrote:

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
The drivers are usually taken from the Reserve companies. If every single marine took to the field you'd have a lot of 8 man tactical squads.

The 1-click bundle by GW is:

the Ultramarines chapter deployed at 888M41 at Orar.

Because the fluff at the GW site says so.

Count the infantry models. There is no one left to act as crew if there isn't more personnel than just 1k...
hint: they offer fieldable models ... not representations of models who may be fielded but some have to be spared because you "need" them to drive the vehicles they sold you.

The 1k was explained as: 10 companies > 10 Squads > 10 marines.
GW pics: 10 companies > 11 squads .....

A vehicle is just a piece of Wargear like any other. The bundle also comes with a few hundred special weapons that would not be able to be fielded as well.

The BA Codex, for example, lists around 150 vehicles in the armory.

I doubt the guys that drive are counted in the 10 Companies, and I find it hard to believe they run less than 10 companies because lol1000marinesandNoMore.

Most of the Marine codecii have the Chapters at 10x100 +Auxiliary sections. Like: Sang. Guard, Librarium, Apothecaries, Chaplains, motorpool, Fleet, and so on.

@d-usa the fluff has always been additional drivers/gunners not counted into the "100". In 2nd edition the crew had a decent chance to hop out and fight. Occasionally a sloppy BL author messes it up, but most of the more thought out novels even explain the extra drivers, chaplains, command squad, and dreads as being outside the company organization.

...and FYI a "codex" chapter at full strength can creep up on the 1500 mark pretty easy. It's always been this way too. Often old veterans are put out to pasture as ship commanders, out post abbots, planetary liaisons, etc. Shoot, Calgar's got 30 honor guard... They aren't part of a company.

And some of them can still count towards the limit of 1000 fighting men. So the 9th having less than 100 foot-marines is not a rip-off since they can be seconded into support roles staffing tanks, fliers, etc.

 d-usa wrote:
And some of them can still count towards the limit of 1000 fighting men. So the 9th having less than 100 foot-marines is not a rip-off since they can be seconded into support roles staffing tanks, fliers, etc.

GW wrote:

..........Nearly 1,200 Space Marine models representing the Ultramarines as deployed at the Battle of Orar's Sepulchre 888.M41. Marneus Calgar leads his entire chapter against the perfidious Eldar of the Iyanden and Alaitoc Craftworlds.

9th co:
http://1.2.3.9/bmi/www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3450461a_99020101049_UMChapter11_445x319.jpg

- Captain, Librarian, Chaplain, Techmarine, command squad
- 7x10 Devastators
- 4x Rhinos
- 4x Razorbacks
- 3x Whirlwinds
- 2x Hunter
- 3x Landspeeder tornado
- 12x Centurier
- Sgt Chronus and a Land Raider

So you have the 9th company and the vehicles. This is repeated at every single company GW offers in this bundle.
No way to draw anyone from anywhere without less infantry models as shown by GW.
The pic has 82 marines of 9th co plus vehicles ( crew ~28 ). Am sure 82+28 is more than 100....

 1hadhq wrote:

The pic has 82 marines of 9th co plus vehicles ( crew ~28 ). Am sure 82+28 is more than 100....

I know.

That's why when somebody complained about the 9th company not having 100 marines in the company because not all squads had 10 marines in them I posted this:

 d-usa wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:

 Qcbob wrote:
This make so much sens! You got +1 from me!

There's very clearly 7 Devastator Squads in the 9th company.

The problem is there isn't 100 Space Marines. There's 12 Centurions taking the place of 30 normal Marines (2 squads of 3 and one of 6). Whenever they've swapped out a Devastator or Assault squad for Centurions, they've left it at 3 or 6 Marines, when it should still be 10 going by squad and company numbers. So wherever they swap in Centurions they really should be swapping in 10, not 3 or 6, regardless of how the squad works in game, since they're meant to be selling a full chapter. They're quite frankly not doing that.

9th Company per bundle:

Command Squad: 5 Marines
Squad 1-7: 70 Marines
Squad 8-10: 12 Marines
Rhino x4: 4 Marines (driver)
Razorback x4: 4 Marines (driver & remote/auto guns) or 8 Marines (driver & gunner)
Land Raider: 2 Marines (driver, commander)
Land Speeder x3: 6 Marines (driver, gunner)
Whirlwind x3: 6 Marines (driver, gunner)
Hunter x2: 4 Marines (driver, gunner)
Captain
Chaplain
Librarian
Techmarine

Total: 117 Space Marines in the 9th Company.

The idea of having a whole chapter and playing another army the same size, I would consider it a waste of money. By the time you get done with the moving phase, the shooting phase, counting wound points, morale toss, etc, the next moving phase for the other player would be the next day. Or just go home, eat lunch and dinner, take a bath, get long nap and return for your moving phase. The first player should be done by then, and he can go home, eat breakfast, lunch, long nap, a few episodes of NCIS and return to move. Looks like it would be a week long or longer battle, and there are no thunderhawks, drop pods or allies involved. I would rather crank up the PC and play a game of dawn of war or ultramarines.

My credit card doesn't have a high enough limit but for those of us in the EU, it'd be possible to order it, see the mountain of boxes and realise how bored you'd be even just finding somewhere to put all this junk, and then return it using the Distance Selling Regulations.

I agree, if they're expecting anyone to plow that much money, those models best be the most well painted in the world, and should come with special books and codex. I would never buy it though, way to big of a dent in my pocket! I believe in the good old 1500 point game, not 1500 SM haha

As a seasoned veteran consumer and collector of warhammer products, I am almost insulted that you can even buy this. It would make a pretty nice grand prize from Scrooge McGames Workshop, but I would trade half of it for a titan and thunderhawk. It would be a terrible mistake to buy this without owning a miniature painting studio, having a sickening ammount of burnable cash and an ocd need to decorate a shelf. I can just see those knuckleheads at GW laughing with each other, mid circle jerk, "Y'know what'd be cool? Ah-hyuk, if we sold our entire product line with a single button click at a non-discounted rate and package it with toilet paper signed by my butt." If anyone were to buy this, then it had better show up instantly via rainbow being carried in a huge cashmere gift sack in one hand by a two headed Matt Ward/Tom Kirby with a pinata body while he is handing you a whiffle ball bat that has a nail sticking out of it with his other hand as he tells you that his body is full of delicious cheese, because no one wants to buy this and assemble and paint it, which, of course would be another few hundred in materials as well as a few hundred hours of free time. LOL@GW

the rant can never be over

..and by the time anyone is done painting this thing... he could start playing 8th Ed...

If I won the lotttery I would buy it, then I would pawn it off on Reece to build and paint!! With a ridiculous deadline for good measure.

 OverwatchCNC wrote:
If I won the lotttery I would buy it...

Maybe from an internet reseller who can give an actual discount.

this place makes me chuckle with the anti-GW rants sometimes!

It's clearly a PR thing, and a good one as it's got the community talking. If it gets a sale then brilliant, if not then it's made an army that has just had a book released even more of a talking point.

But yeah, it's GW that have dropped the ball here....

The Division Of Joy wrote:
this place makes me chuckle with the anti-GW rants sometimes!

It's clearly a PR thing, and a good one as it's got the community talking. If it gets a sale then brilliant, if not then it's made an army that has just had a book released even more of a talking point.

But yeah, it's GW that have dropped the ball here....

Those are lovely Rose-tinted glasses you have there.

Did they come with the Blinders or were they purchased separately?

 TalonZahn wrote:

The Division Of Joy wrote:
this place makes me chuckle with the anti-GW rants sometimes!

It's clearly a PR thing, and a good one as it's got the community talking. If it gets a sale then brilliant, if not then it's made an army that has just had a book released even more of a talking point.

But yeah, it's GW that have dropped the ball here....

Those are lovely Rose-tinted glasses you have there.

Did they come with the Blinders or were they purchased separately?

Explain what is rose tinted then. Are you seriously suggesting that GW have released this because they see it as being a money spinner? That they think it'll get a decent uptake?

If that's the case then I think you need to put down the model glue and step out for some fresh air.

This is news yet?

GW wrote:

..........Nearly 1,200 Space Marine models representing the Ultramarines as deployed at the Battle of Orar's Sepulchre 888.M41. Marneus Calgar leads his entire chapter against the perfidious Eldar of the Iyanden and Alaitoc Craftworlds.

Quick. Attack Maccagge.

 EYEofTERROR wrote:
As a seasoned veteran consumer and collector of warhammer products, I am almost insulted that you can even buy this. It would make a pretty nice grand prize from Scrooge McGames Workshop, but I would trade half of it for a titan and thunderhawk. It would be a terrible mistake to buy this without owning a miniature painting studio, having a sickening ammount of burnable cash and an ocd need to decorate a shelf. I can just see those knuckleheads at GW laughing with each other, mid circle jerk, "Y'know what'd be cool? Ah-hyuk, if we sold our entire product line with a single button click at a non-discounted rate and package it with toilet paper signed by my butt." If anyone were to buy this, then it had better show up instantly via rainbow being carried in a huge cashmere gift sack in one hand by a two headed Matt Ward/Tom Kirby with a pinata body while he is handing you a whiffle ball bat that has a nail sticking out of it with his other hand as he tells you that his body is full of delicious cheese, because no one wants to buy this and assemble and paint it, which, of course would be another few hundred in materials as well as a few hundred hours of free time. LOL@GW

the rant can never be over

Apart from there is a discount, and it is clearly a PR thing. I doubt the actually expect to sell one. It is just nice to see what a full chapter looks like for me.

Seriously, I can't understand the hate on this one, but then I guess I have said something that is not negative, so I must be a delusional white knight. Or is it just jealousy that people dislike that there may be some people who can spend £7k without worrying, and they are not millionaires, just people with good jobs. One or two people I know could if they wanted. Unfortunately non of them are SM players.

The Division Of Joy wrote:
this place makes me chuckle with the anti-GW rants sometimes!

It's clearly a PR thing, and a good one as it's got the community talking. If it gets a sale then brilliant, if not then it's made an army that has just had a book released even more of a talking point.

But yeah, it's GW that have dropped the ball here....

It's got the community talking negatively about them. Has anyone in this thread said anything positive about this move?

So how is this good for PR if it makes the community think negatively of you (or at best, find it ridiculous)? If it's a PR move, it's a bad PR move.

 heartserenade wrote:

The Division Of Joy wrote:
this place makes me chuckle with the anti-GW rants sometimes!

It's clearly a PR thing, and a good one as it's got the community talking. If it gets a sale then brilliant, if not then it's made an army that has just had a book released even more of a talking point.

But yeah, it's GW that have dropped the ball here....

It's got the community talking negatively about them. Has anyone in this thread said anything positive about this move?

So how is this good for PR if it makes the community think negatively of you (or at best, find it ridiculous)? If it's a PR move, it's a bad PR move.

There's no such thing as bad publicity.

 heartserenade wrote:

The Division Of Joy wrote:
this place makes me chuckle with the anti-GW rants sometimes!

It's clearly a PR thing, and a good one as it's got the community talking. If it gets a sale then brilliant, if not then it's made an army that has just had a book released even more of a talking point.

But yeah, it's GW that have dropped the ball here....

It's got the community talking negatively about them. Has anyone in this thread said anything positive about this move?

So how is this good for PR if it makes the community think negatively of you (or at best, find it ridiculous)? If it's a PR move, it's a bad PR move.

PR rule #1: There is no such thing as "bad PR".

Tell that to companies, businesses and individuals destroyed by bad publicity. Really, that quote has been said so many times that no one stops to really think if it is actually true.

Examples would include Amy's Baking Company (got featured and shown in a bad light in Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares) and Jake Lloyd (played Anakin in Phantom Menace) who's acting career is currently non-existent.


Just take a moment and think if there's really no such thing as bad publicity. Just one moment. Wouldn't your customers talking negatively about your company, I dunno, affect your company negatively? Maybe I'm just crazy.

And actual quotes from actual PR people:

reputation.com wrote:There is such a thing as bad publicity, but most negative attention can be managed by someone who knows how. If you or your company are struggling with a bad reputation, we can help you turn it around. Yesterday's bad news might become tomorrow's free press. Contact us today to find out how we can help.

personalbrandingpros.com wrote:Although the idea that “there is no such thing as bad publicity” has been around as long as the industry itself, most public relations professionals would not agree. A rise in business can come out of bad press if the situation is addressed quickly and efficiently. Above all, the response must be positive, transparent and honest in order to move the focus away from past deeds to the present and the future. Perhaps a better saying would be that bad publicity can provide an opportunity for good publicity if the response is positive and productive. When folks are talking about you there is a greater chance for business growth than if no one knows you exist.

It would be amusing if forgeworld put a legion 1-click deal up on their website.

10,000+ FW marines with equipment would probably run you $250,000+

uh just no, I would hope my friends would take away my wallet for my own protection if I even considered this.

 keezus wrote:


Quick. Attack Maccagge.

I hear Codex Nids is next.

Hive Fleet Behemoth one-click deal? How many Gaunts should be in it?

 Zweischneid wrote:

 keezus wrote:


Quick. Attack Maccagge.

I hear Codex Nids is next.

Hive Fleet Behemoth one-click deal? How many Gaunts should be in it?

Got me thinking about the nids. GW should just sell you a mold to make more gaunts out of play-doh. said mold of course will sell for $10K

One-Click IG, includes mold for piles of dead bodies.

Dead bodies can also count-as improvised ADLs.

 heartserenade wrote:

The Division Of Joy wrote:
this place makes me chuckle with the anti-GW rants sometimes!

It's clearly a PR thing, and a good one as it's got the community talking. If it gets a sale then brilliant, if not then it's made an army that has just had a book released even more of a talking point.

But yeah, it's GW that have dropped the ball here....

It's got the community talking negatively about them. Has anyone in this thread said anything positive about this move?

So how is this good for PR if it makes the community think negatively of you (or at best, find it ridiculous)? If it's a PR move, it's a bad PR move.

But the problem is that they don't actually seem to have done anything wrong. It's all very odd, but I haven't seen a truly valid bit of crtitisium about this. Honestly, it really dose seem like the same old people with the same old negativity. I mean, even on page 6 we still have people complaining that you don't get a discount or anything extra, when you do.

The only negativity seems to be from people who either haven't botherd to look at the product or saying "LOL thats expensive", which I realy don't see as a valid problem. It's not like anyone has to buy it, and some people may well. What is wrong with them selling some ing for £7k? Oh, and lots people saying"you would never paint all that". All I'm seeing is negativity for the sake of it.

There have been lots of people saying positive things about the discount, the extras and the interest of seeing the full chapter.

There are lots of things to complain about, but honestly, GW putting together a bundle, with discount, and extras, for a lot of money realy is not one of them.


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 d-usa wrote:
One-Click IG, includes mold for piles of dead bodies.

Dead bodies can also count-as improvised ADLs.

Or the one click Ork bundle. £7k of random Ork boxes and the contents of one of the designers bits box.

treslibras wrote:

 heartserenade wrote:

The Division Of Joy wrote:
this place makes me chuckle with the anti-GW rants sometimes!

It's clearly a PR thing, and a good one as it's got the community talking. If it gets a sale then brilliant, if not then it's made an army that has just had a book released even more of a talking point.

But yeah, it's GW that have dropped the ball here....

It's got the community talking negatively about them. Has anyone in this thread said anything positive about this move?

So how is this good for PR if it makes the community think negatively of you (or at best, find it ridiculous)? If it's a PR move, it's a bad PR move.

PR rule #1: There is no such thing as "bad PR".

Miley Cyrus at the VMAs?


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 d-usa wrote:
One-Click IG, includes mold for piles of dead bodies.

Dead bodies can also count-as improvised ADLs.

Doesn't the Wall of Martyrs or whatever it's called come with IG bodies piled up in front of it?

How big will the shipping container be they will have to send it in?

cadbren wrote:

treslibras wrote:

 heartserenade wrote:

The Division Of Joy wrote:
this place makes me chuckle with the anti-GW rants sometimes!

It's clearly a PR thing, and a good one as it's got the community talking. If it gets a sale then brilliant, if not then it's made an army that has just had a book released even more of a talking point.

But yeah, it's GW that have dropped the ball here....

It's got the community talking negatively about them. Has anyone in this thread said anything positive about this move?

So how is this good for PR if it makes the community think negatively of you (or at best, find it ridiculous)? If it's a PR move, it's a bad PR move.

PR rule #1: There is no such thing as "bad PR".

Miley Cyrus at the VMAs?

The VMAs happened, then she released Wrecking Ball a few days later, and it's the fastest video ever to get 100 Million views on Vevo. The previous record was held by... Miley Cyrus.


There is no such thing as Bad PR.

 Steve steveson wrote:
But the problem is that they don't actually seem to have done anything wrong. It's all very odd, but I haven't seen a truly valid bit of crtitisium about this. Honestly, it really dose seem like the same old people with the same old negativity. I mean, even on page 6 we still have people complaining that you don't get a discount or anything extra, when you do.

It's an advertising campaign that exaggerates and draws attention to the worst aspect of their product. You don't need 2,000,000+ points of Space Marines to play a game, but this is an advert that says "Look at how many Space Marines you should want to buy! Look at how much you should want to spend! Doesn't that make you feel like buying Warhammer 40,000 for your kid as a Christmas present?"

And the answer to that is no. This offer is the anti-starter set: a big, in your face abomination that gives a bad first impression of the product, before you've even bought anything.

If i was filthy rich i'd get it, and pay someone else to paint it all for me. Then one night i'd play drunken godzilla with some boots on and see if i could stomp them all. Any survivors would automatically become my veteran squads.

 Breotan wrote:
There's no such thing as bad publicity.

Pithy, but wholly inaccurate and shows a complete misunderstanding of the basics of PR and corporate goodwill (which is actually a valuable asset). See also Exxon Valdez, Microsoft DRM policy, pink slime, Penn State/Sandusky, etc.

 jmurph wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
There's no such thing as bad publicity.

Pithy, but wholly inaccurate and shows a complete misunderstanding of the basics of PR and corporate goodwill (which is actually a valuable asset). See also Exxon Valdez, Microsoft DRM policy, pink slime, Penn State/Sandusky, etc.

I'll just refer you to the previous posts about Miley Cyrus' stunt at the VMAs.

Again, Jake Lloyd and his non-existent career. Michael Jackson before his death.

XBOX ONE.

 jmurph wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
There's no such thing as bad publicity.

Pithy, but wholly inaccurate and shows a complete misunderstanding of the basics of PR and corporate goodwill (which is actually a valuable asset). See also Exxon Valdez, Microsoft DRM policy, pink slime, Penn State/Sandusky, etc.

You've mixxed in criminal acts, that's not PR, that's committing a crime... Oh Exxon, record profits, Microsoft (they're just fine), fast food? (booming), Penn State (give them 3 years at most).

Indeed, once you get past a certain point, nothing you do matters anymore, it all just feeds the machine. Sickening, really.

You get some extras now with the kit (copied and pasted from the site):

Alongside the entire Chapter of Space Marines you'll also receive a signed copy of Codex: Space Marines;
a signed copy of Insignium Astartes (the definitive guide to the heraldries and squad markings of the Ultramarines);
a full Chapter organisation chart;
a breakdown of the composition of each of the 10 companies;
a signed art print of the Codex: Space Marines book cover;
and a signed art print of Paul Dainton's painting of the Ultramarines assembled for battle.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:
But the problem is that they don't actually seem to have done anything wrong. It's all very odd, but I haven't seen a truly valid bit of crtitisium about this. Honestly, it really dose seem like the same old people with the same old negativity. I mean, even on page 6 we still have people complaining that you don't get a discount or anything extra, when you do.

It's an advertising campaign that exaggerates and draws attention to the worst aspect of their product. You don't need 2,000,000+ points of Space Marines to play a game, but this is an advert that says "Look at how many Space Marines you should want to buy! Look at how much you should want to spend! Doesn't that make you feel like buying Warhammer 40,000 for your kid as a Christmas present?"

And the answer to that is no. This offer is the anti-starter set: a big, in your face abomination that gives a bad first impression of the product, before you've even bought anything.

your posts remind me of reading the socialist worker newspaper, who manage to find ways of twisting every single piece of legislation that the government produce into 'government shafts the poor again'.

It is very amusing though. Keep it up!

UPDATE!

The Ultramarines Chapter One-Click has DROPPED IN PRICE to.... $11500.00USD. The home page banner added an ad that reads 'Includes Unique Exclusive Extras' Shipping has now been updated for 2-3weeks.

Feeling bad for ALL those people whom purchased at the higher price

Did anyone actually buy it?

 Desubot wrote:
Did anyone actually buy it?

obviously there were so many buyers that they could reduce the price on it just like they do every year with the best selling kits........I don't even believe that.

Me and a few mates did discuss throwing in 1000-2000 each and getting it. But we decided beer for a year might be the better choice.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
Pic doesn't show all the vehicles either....

I would pay it, IF.........came with lmtd edition codex & lmtd edition rulebook & carry cases for everything, plus dice, templates, Apoc lmtd book(s).....

and a thank you card....

all hand deliverded by Kayden Kross....

OMG, that is funny! I even said days ago they should include bonuses &/or extras! LOL, they heard me & others....


So now you get -

Alongside the entire Chapter of Space Marines you'll also receive a signed copy of Codex: Space Marines; a signed copy of Insignium Astartes (the definitive guide to the heraldries and squad markings of the Ultramarines); a full Chapter organisation chart; a breakdown of the composition of each of the 10 companies; a signed art print of the Codex: Space Marines book cover; and a signed art print of Paul Dainton's painting of the Ultramarines assembled for battle

and a price drop!

Still over my monthly, & yearly, and even decade gaming budget.

 Ratius wrote:
Me and a few mates did discuss throwing in 1000-2000 each and getting it. But we decided beer for a year might be the better choice.

Somewhat coincidentally, I could probably name about 40,000 other things I would rather spend that amount of money on.

I can't really understand who this deal is meant to appeal to - anyone who has an Ultramarines duvet cover and eats and breaths marines (really anyone who would consider spending this much money) would surely want to buy something with some character, rather than what is essentially the Saturday morning royal mail delivery for a big GW store, diverted to someone's house. A crate of identikit box sets, it's just so unbelievably dull.

And signatures are something easily obtainable (for £0) for anyone who has ever attended a gaming show.

Err, those extras have been there the whole time. To quote this very thread...

BairdEC wrote:
They do give a few "extras," but I'd bet they're added to the cost.

Alongside the entire Chapter of Space Marines you'll also receive a signed copy of Codex: Space Marines; a signed copy of Insignium Astartes (the definitive guide to the heraldries and squad markings of the Ultramarines); a full Chapter organisation chart; a breakdown of the composition of each of the 10 companies; a signed art print of the Codex: Space Marines book cover; and a signed art print of Paul Dainton's painting of the Ultramarines assembled for battle.

However, it is nice that they've rounded the price down by a whole £65

wufai wrote:
UPDATE!

The Ultramarines Chapter One-Click has DROPPED IN PRICE to.... $11500.00USD. The home page banner added an ad that reads 'Includes Unique Exclusive Extras' Shipping has now been updated for 2-3weeks.

Feeling bad for ALL those people whom purchased at the higher price

It always included the extras, which are essentially only bragging rights within a very small, selective community. Also, they probably dropped the price after someone pointed out that you could get all the miniatures for less through a 20% off webstore.

Since it is mostly people who are seriously into the hobby that would buy it, they have to offer it at a price better than they can find online. The kids who are regulars at the hobby store aren't going to be the ones to purchase this bundle and I seriously doubt most hobby groups would.

it doesn't really help that it's just the same crap spammed over and over and over again. 45 rhinos??? who wants that?
first 5 death company you assemble/paint. awesome kit! that was fun. next 5. ehhhhh ok. 10-15. shoot me.

kb305 wrote:
it doesn't really help that it's just the same crap spammed over and over and over again. 45 rhinos??? who wants that?
first 5 death company you assemble/paint. awesome kit! that was fun. next 5. ehhhhh ok. 10-15. shoot me.

If you have the money to buy this, you have the money to have someone assemble and paint it for you.

I hope the mods will be lenient with me but I find the idea of this offer totally ridiculous. I find the chorus is very apt.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9O6pCYyelA

 Civik wrote:


Since it is mostly people who are seriously into the hobby that would buy it,

See.. I don't think this is. Anyone who was that into marines, where they were contemplating spending this much money, wouldn't be buying multiple piles of the same kits and building such a bland and characterless collection - they would be getting 'veteran' units from Forgeworld (of older armour marks, champions, special characters), FW vehicles and vehicle upgrades, brass logos and decals. They would be searching ebay for some older, out of production or limited edition special characters, and buying different bits from other (non-standard) marine components to mix things up. They would probably even be using 3rd party components from Maxmini, Paulson, Chapterhouse and Anvil (as an example - Anvil's 'recon' marines). There are even loads of other kits available right from GW.com which would make it that much more interesting.

I really, really can't see who this offer would appeal to - unless it's someone who doesn't understand the value of money, and for the most part the only comments of "I'm gonna buy it!" have come across as sounding like teenagers playing chicken about running out into traffic, and egging each other on.

I would be very surprised if even a single one of these has sold.. it can surely only serve to act as advertising - Something which it seems to have achieved admirably..

 Pacific wrote:

...

I would be very surprised if even a single one of these has sold.. it can surely only serve to act as advertising - Something which it seems to have achieved admirably..

Not as surprised as GW would be


edited to fix the quotes

With One-Click I can do a few things to this thread...

 Alpharius wrote:
With One-Click I can do a few things to this thread...

Do it! Put this puppy to bed!

 Pacific wrote:

 Civik wrote:


Since it is mostly people who are seriously into the hobby that would buy it,

See.. I don't think this is. Anyone who was that into marines, where they were contemplating spending this much money, wouldn't be buying multiple piles of the same kits and building such a bland and characterless collection - they would be getting 'veteran' units from Forgeworld (of older armour marks, champions, special characters), FW vehicles and vehicle upgrades, brass logos and decals. They would be searching ebay for some older, out of production or limited edition special characters, and buying different bits from other (non-standard) marine components to mix things up. They would probably even be using 3rd party components from Maxmini, Paulson, Chapterhouse and Anvil (as an example - Anvil's 'recon' marines). There are even loads of other kits available right from GW.com which would make it that much more interesting.

Okay, let me rephrase, 'that would be their target audience.'

If you had that much money to blow, I'd definitely rather be able to use forgeworld/3rd party stuff to modify things to make them unique.

I've known a few proud to own a company of Marines with customizations, but I'm still pretty sure none are crazy enough to try for an entire chapter. Right now I'd take even half that money and get the hardware to build my own table, or perhaps invest it. The return is bound to be much higher.

wufai wrote:
UPDATE!

The Ultramarines Chapter One-Click has DROPPED IN PRICE to.... $11500.00USD. The home page banner added an ad that reads 'Includes Unique Exclusive Extras' Shipping has now been updated for 2-3weeks.

Feeling bad for ALL those people whom purchased at the higher price

Still 14, 000$ CAN on CAN GW... which represent 13 600$ US... Well done GW... Well done!

 Qcbob wrote:

wufai wrote:
UPDATE!

The Ultramarines Chapter One-Click has DROPPED IN PRICE to.... $11500.00USD. The home page banner added an ad that reads 'Includes Unique Exclusive Extras' Shipping has now been updated for 2-3weeks.

Feeling bad for ALL those people whom purchased at the higher price

Still 14, 000$ CAN on CAN GW... which represent 13 600$ US... Well done GW... Well done!

Stop, please. Our friends in Australia are laughing too hard and need to catch their breath.