Seems GW pushed back April releases to April and we get another week with surplus releases to fill a WD:
Preorders are up, Void Shield generator already sold out.

anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:Pre-Orders March 22nd Released March 29th
Void Shield Generator $100
Quake Cannon Crater $37
Clan Raukaan $49.50 (online only)
Clan Raukaan Limited Edition $90 (online only)

Void Shield Generator
Limited edition - 1000 copies numbered in fancy box
Made of 10 hard resin pieces, and extremely detailed. Its a square structure with a platform on which emerges 4 towers with the void shield generator in the center of them. The structure looks as tall and wide as a bastion.
Its listed at $100

Quake Cannon Craters
These are plastic, and come with 4 craters. Each of the craters come in two halves, so that they can be pulled apart and used as a rough battlefield barricade using battlefield debris as a wall. There is a lot of detail and wreckage on these, and being able to use them as a barricade of sorts makes them nice.
Listed at $37

On this weeks WD:

reader on faeit212 wrote:there is no mention of the new IG anywhere. Cover is the generator, there's about 15 pages devoted to Lord of the Rings, a quick Nids vs Imperial Knights battle report (Looks like Nids get hammered, 1 knight wipes out half of the Nid list) and the aforementioned how to deal with knights discussion with the developers.

BTW current WD also uses 2 pages to describe how awesome an old Gandalf miniature is.

Don't say that there will be no normal packages release for void shield generator.

Void shield generator for 100$? must be a huge kit or the real thing right?

Bastion sized, the rumour says. Bastion costs 41.25 $ BTW.

$100 would be what... £50-60 that seems like alot for the void shield generator. Still having seen one proxied a good few times in my local store I'm guessing people wanted the model. And it'll be nice to have some official proportions

Interesting, chances are my FLGS will get one for the store at the very least.

£60 for a largish resin building isn't bad. Making it in resin and making it a limited edition suggests that GW don't think it will sell. Have any 3rd parties made a suitable model for it yet?

Are there any rules how big quake cannon craters have to be? I wonder if they could be used for exploded Rhinos/Droppods

Makes me unhappy whenever models are LE but OTOH sounds like it'll be easy enough to convert and having an official model to refer to for shape and size will be nice. I also expect 3rd parties will be more than happy to do a non LE one.

Why Limited.. why oh why, GW?

If it's resin, turn it over to FW I say.

So hard resin.. being sold through GW.
Could that have to do with the rumour FW will be available on the revamped GW site? Could lines of communication be getting crossed and it's a FW piece?
I can't really think of a better explanation unless GW are removing the distinction between GW actual and FW and throwing everything in together.

Also man the idea of limited edition models still amuses me to no end, isn't the expensive part of making a model the mould?

Sooooo....

They retired the "moon crater" bag full of big blast craters and put up ONE crater for $37?

Huh.

 Moopy wrote:
Sooooo....

They retired the "moon crater" bag full of big blast craters and put up ONE crater for $37?

Huh.

Pack of 4, that come apart for various uses apparently.

Any pics yet?

 jonolikespie wrote:
So hard resin.. being sold through GW.
Could that have to do with the rumour FW will be available on the revamped GW site? Could lines of communication be getting crossed and it's a FW piece?
I can't really think of a better explanation unless GW are removing the distinction between GW actual and FW and throwing everything in together.

So, the Helm's Deep and Minas Tirith walls released for LOTR years and years ago were a harbinger of FW/GW blurring the lines?
Or maybe the weird little resin chapel bit with a fake stained glass thing was?

The Ork and CoD barricades are both hard resin and they've been part of the GW catalogue for years, so I wouldn't read too much into this.

 Kanluwen wrote:
So, the Helm's Deep and Minas Tirith walls released for LOTR years and years ago were a harbinger of FW/GW blurring the lines?

Those were cosmetic recasts of the existing castle walls, and you know that.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
So, the Helm's Deep and Minas Tirith walls released for LOTR years and years ago were a harbinger of FW/GW blurring the lines?

Those were cosmetic recasts of the existing castle walls, and you know that.

Except they were hard resin versus plastic.

But you know that.

Truth is we don't know what's happening, so jonolikespie isn't wrong when he says what he says, nor is he right. And neither are you.

Lol. Only GW could think it's a good idea to release powerful new fortification rules that lots of competitive players are taking three copies of, and then make it a limited-edition kit. I'm struggling to even begin to understand the sheer ignorance and stupidity that goes into that kind of decision.

 Peregrine wrote:
Lol. Only GW could think it's a good idea to release powerful new fortification rules that lots of competitive players are taking three copies of, and then make it a limited-edition kit. I'm struggling to even begin to understand the sheer ignorance and stupidity that goes into that kind of decision.

"They'll buy what we make."

If the craters look cool, I'll think about getting them.

Void Shield generators... probably not for that much. I don't recall what the Void Shield Generators do from Stronghold Assault. I vaguely remember a 6" or 12" bubble of 4++ goodness from the Apocalypse data sheet.

 kronk wrote:
If the craters look cool, I'll think about getting them.

Void Shield generators... probably not for that much. I don't recall what the Void Shield Generators do from Stronghold Assault. I vaguely remember a 6" or 12" bubble of 4++ goodness from the Apocalypse data sheet.

void Shield generators create a void shield. 12" radius from the generator.
It's AV12, is removed on glance or pen, and can be restored on a 5+.
Each generator can buy another 2 shields, iirc.

I want pictures!

You know there will be uber rules for the generator listed in a $50 data slate and if you take three you'll get a super rule...

 Peregrine wrote:
Lol. Only GW could think it's a good idea to release powerful new fortification rules that lots of competitive players are taking three copies of, and then make it a limited-edition kit. I'm struggling to even begin to understand the sheer ignorance and stupidity that goes into that kind of decision.

Possible explanations:
1.) They are not certain that GW will be around a year from now and that plastic moulds would pay of until then
2.) They will release a new data slade on fortifications, invalidating the half a year old rulebook, nerfing fortifications
3.) Two plastic kits per month is the current maximum capacity as they had to sell most infrastructure to make the half-annual look at least half-decent.

 pretre wrote:
I want pictures!

I want world peace!

 Kanluwen wrote:
Or maybe the weird little resin chapel bit with a fake stained glass thing was?

I have that one and I am not completely sure why.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Lol. Only GW could think it's a good idea to release powerful new fortification rules that lots of competitive players are taking three copies of, and then make it a limited-edition kit. I'm struggling to even begin to understand the sheer ignorance and stupidity that goes into that kind of decision.

Possible explanations:
1.) They are not certain that GW will be around a year from now and that plastic moulds would pay of until then
2.) They will release a new data slade on fortifications, invalidating the half a year old rulebook, nerfing fortifications
3.) Two plastic kits per month is the current maximum capacity as they had to sell most infrastructure to make the half-annual look at least half-decent.

 pretre wrote:
I want pictures!

I want world peace!

4) They made the kit 6 months before SHA and still need to release it to recoup costs. Unfortunately, SHA wasn't as popular as they thought so they figure demand will be low. They decide to do a limited release for now just to try to recoup and keep the option to rerelease later.

 pretre wrote:

4) They made the kit 6 months before SHA and still need to release it to recoup costs. Unfortunately, SHA wasn't as popular as they thought so they figure demand will be low. They decide to do a limited release for now just to try to recoup and keep the option to rerelease later.

Nah. They would have released it with Stronghold Assault if it was ready.

 kronk wrote:

 pretre wrote:

4) They made the kit 6 months before SHA and still need to release it to recoup costs. Unfortunately, SHA wasn't as popular as they thought so they figure demand will be low. They decide to do a limited release for now just to try to recoup and keep the option to rerelease later.

Nah. They would have released it with Stronghold Assault if it was ready.

They could have released it with SHA, but it wouldn't be the first time they staggered things that were already ready to go. Just giving an alternate theory besides all the silly ones.

You're silly and your mom dresses you funny!

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 kronk wrote:
If the craters look cool, I'll think about getting them.

Void Shield generators... probably not for that much. I don't recall what the Void Shield Generators do from Stronghold Assault. I vaguely remember a 6" or 12" bubble of 4++ goodness from the Apocalypse data sheet.

void Shield generators create a void shield. 12" radius from the generator.
It's AV12, is removed on glance or pen, and can be restored on a 5+.
Each generator can buy another 2 shields, iirc.

Thanks for that! So that's pretty similar to what I recall from Apocalypse. Or I'm just getting them all confused in my old age.

And the best way to recoup costs for a low-selling product is to do a limited run on something?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And the best way to recoup costs for a low-selling product is to do a limited run on something?

Don't worry. They make up the difference in profit with the markup in your neck of the woods.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And the best way to recoup costs for a low-selling product is to do a limited run on something?

Yes. By reducing volume they will drive up demand which....and then....hmm.

The set all together is probably the part thats limited edition. Then they will sell it piecemeal exactly the way they did wall of martyrs.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And the best way to recoup costs for a low-selling product is to do a limited run on something?

I said that they were trying to recoup costs on the VSG not SHA.

haroon wrote:
The set all together is probably the part thats limited edition. Then they will sell it piecemeal exactly the way they did wall of martyrs.

This is what I was thinking as well, but was the wall plastic?

So nobody's posted a picture yet? Okay.

Needs more skulls.

Like it, it's suitably over the top.
Not touching it for $100+Canada though.

Looks really cool and also gives us an idea for the size so when folks start scratch building their own versions.

Not sure Id pay 100 for that kit

Meh.

It's OK, but i'm not going to buy it.

Pretty uninspired.

I also hate that servitor in the wall. Why does he have a free arm to operate that panel? What if it gets shot off? Just integrate him into the wall, or better yet put him behind a panel.

Oh lord that thing is ugly......

On the bright side at least we have a scale.

Everything that delays the IG release must be destroyed.

It's a nice enough model but I'd rather scratch build my own for the money they're charging, besides if I really was going to spend some dinero on a shield generator whotsits then I'll save up and fork out for the Forgeworld game tile, the preview looked stunning from the little I've seen of it.

 Las wrote:
Everything that delays the IG release must be destroyed.

What about everything that was always going to come out before the IG release which always was, and remains, due for release the first weekend of April?

two weeks of boring release :(

It's really weird that it's in resin and not plastic

Yuck, the design is just...so busy. And for 100+ bucks? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooope. Not touching this with a 40 foot Canadian beaver tail.

That is...not what imagined at all. Not liking it.
I envisioned something more like this. Sure, it doesn't have battlements, but the GW version barely has any either.

At first I was mad at GW for making a $130 (factoring in the "not American tax") piece of LE terrain. Then I saw the pics...

That thing is way to busy, even more so than the CoD tiles which is quite an achievement.

Forge World obviously didn't make this kit as they know what a shield generator/power station should look like..



Of course an entire RoB board won't work for that terrain but at least the thing is well designed!

Hmmm ... looks like a Skeletor playset.

Thanks for the pic BTW.

That's something.. I guess. Yeah, that's about all I can comment on it as frankly it's just meh. It frankly doesn't look like a void shield generator to me personally and I also prefer the FW one but that may be because of an interest in Star Wars as well.

I see why it's limited edition. I'd be embarrassed to make that.

This release seems desperate. Also, in my area SHA seems a non-starter... shame.

 Byte wrote:
This release seems desperate. Also, in my area SHA seems a non-starter... shame.

SHA is actually quite alright, just drop the Aquila Strongpoint and the Void Shield Generator, and it's all good. Improved building rules, too.

That is truly an embarrassingly ugly release by GW - seriously, what he hell were they thinking?

But at least as noted above we now have dimensions for the thing...

 Alpharius wrote:
That is truly an embarrassingly ugly release by GW - seriously, what he hell were they thinking?

But at least as noted above we now have dimensions for the thing...

Same thought here. That thing is atrocious!

That is $100? Is this some kind of joke? $100 for a plastic (or is it resin?) building? I'd bet that kit doesn't cost more than $20 to make, so what the hell is worth $100 for it?

Being limited probably it won't make it to Japan.
Being 100$ it will be so expensive it won't sale anyways.
So I won't have to worry about seeing that thing on a gaming table.
It's great news!

On the other hand that FW generator makes me happy, I wish it was not that expensive.

M.

Cookie jar, some pleasure rods and marbles, i can make that.

But you cannot sell if for 100$ a pop

M.

Depends on how pleasurable the rods and how good the cookies are.

I first saw the pic and went, "wow, that void shield generator is awesome!"

Then I saw the price and it became, "well, it's not that awesome..." Seems to happen more and more with GW products these days.

Well, looks okay (too pricey for me, though). And of course there's this Servitor. It's 40k. I remember that guy attached to a building with buzzsaw-arms from a Blanche artwork for Necromunda. It made no sense. But hey...

I don't mind the design (not what I was expecting, but it does the job) - but the pylons are wonky.

You are all missing the most important news this issue....

The Hobbit
(The desolation of Smaug)
Strategy Battle Game
NEW MINIATURES
& BATTLE REPORT

How could you all be so blind?!

Its meh, and definitely not $100 meh. $20 is my offer.

 Byte wrote:
This release seems desperate. Also, in my area SHA seems a non-starter... shame.

What is desperate about a building kit that you don't like?

 Miguelsan wrote:
Being 100$ it will be so expensive it won't sale anyways.

Are you kidding? They sell limited edition books that are twice the price of the regular book and all you get is a fancy dust cover, and those consistently sell out. You think this won't be gone within a day or two?

Alabaster.clown wrote:
You are all missing the most important news this issue....

The Hobbit
(The desolation of Smaug)
Strategy Battle Game
NEW MINIATURES
& BATTLE REPORT

How could you all be so blind?!

Since when is anything Hobbit related considered important news?

Well, I hope at least one person buys it, so they can post the dimensions and help me make a better looking Tyranid version for myself.

And, yes, it will have half a Termagant sticking out the front, operating a sweet little bio-keypad.

Looks like somebody stuck for sonic screw drivers on the top. Vile.

One could build a pretty nice music box out of it with all the cogs turning and the servitor down there waving with his arm.

I'm looking forward to the 3rd party energy shield version for 25 greenbags.

I guess the Void Shield Generator will sell to people who love to have Limited edition stuff for bragging rights.

But I could make a perfectly good counts-as version from leftover Cities of Death bits, for a lot less cash. Or scratch-build for even less, of course, but it wouldn't have enough skulls.

I'm not a fan of the design. Not how I pictured a generator....

Limited edition is a nice way of saying low print run. They don't anticipate they will sell that many of them so they simply wont manufacture that many of them. Calling it limited edition sound a lot better then a low interest model.

The price is probably based more on the cost of manufacturing than anything else. It may be a fairly involved kit with lots of stupid bits and that will generally drive the cost of manufacturing more then the amount of actual plastic used. Add in the already short print run and they have to increase the MSRP so they can make their margins over less units. Increase the units to bring the margins down and if the demand for the model isn't enough to sell them then you will never make your margins and have compounded the problem by over spending in manufacturing.

At least there will be consensus on the dimensions. The model really reminds me of this:



Not a stretch to assume sales of pegasus hobbies power plants will be going up.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Miguelsan wrote:
Being 100$ it will be so expensive it won't sale anyways.

Are you kidding? They sell limited edition books that are twice the price of the regular book and all you get is a fancy dust cover, and those consistently sell out. You think this won't be gone within a day or two?

Didn't say it was not going to sell. Rather was talking about Japanese shops and prices, with only 1000 pieces and the overseas online market dead thanks to GW this kit won't reach this country but feel free to take my words out of context.

But I must thank GW for the great chance of building Void Generators many times cheaper and probably better looking they gave me

http://dioramaworkshop.com/ws.php?projectId=14&subProjectId=125

M.

So when do pre-orders usually go up?

 Miguelsan wrote:
Didn't say it was not going to sell. Rather was talking about Japanese shops and prices, with only 1000 pieces and the overseas online market dead thanks to GW this kit won't reach this country but feel free to take my words out of context.

Ah, you meant in Japan. Understood.

 Clang wrote:
I guess the Void Shield Generator will sell to people who love to have Limited edition stuff for bragging rights.

But I could make a perfectly good counts-as version from leftover Cities of Death bits, for a lot less cash. Or scratch-build for even less, of course, but it wouldn't have enough skulls.

Or if you're really lucky (or old) you get to use the card and plastic bulkhead power station from the Storm of Vengeance campaign pack.

 Peregrine wrote:
Lol. Only GW could think it's a good idea to release powerful new fortification rules that lots of competitive players are taking three copies of, and then make it a limited-edition kit. I'm struggling to even begin to understand the sheer ignorance and stupidity that goes into that kind of decision.

Yep. To try to understand the decisions of GW one need to keep two very important things in mind;

1. The designers doesn't know that the Void Shield Generator is powerful since they don't play(test) their own game.
2. GW doesn't know that players would want three of those because there is no way for their customers to communicate such a desire.


It is a failure of their "They will buy what we make"-mindset, as opposed to the much better "We make what they will buy".

Moar pics:

Quake Creators:





Void Shield Generator:

Better pics, found on BOLS (in spoilers because of size:

Or maybe....just maybe they did listen and heard there was a problem that people were having with dimensions or needing some sort of official model as reference so they mocked up this limited print run so there are dimensions on the market.

Lets be honest, there is such demand for a void shield that they could have EASILY made it a plastic run set, however this might just be a stop gap to get a model out there. It is a giant chunk of resin, FW style not a mainstream plastic kit, which we have seen they have been moving away from for over a year.

Is it probably for business reasons? Sure, but it provides the community something that it needed for reference. I will give them credit for that. Also by making it limited the hobbyist in all of us can now go wild but with guidance. We are already seeing in this thread people making plans to build one now that they have an idea.

 Leth wrote:
Or maybe....just maybe they did listen and heard there was a problem that people were having with dimensions or needing some sort of official model as reference so they mocked up this limited print run so there are dimensions on the market.

So what you're saying is that they know people wanted to make one, so decided to tell everyone how big it should be, so other companies can go and make their own version?

Does not compute.

Who said anything about that? I am saying they saw a need, however were not in a position to make a massive production run. People were going to be making their own anyway but they also saw that people were looking for guidance. So they provided it while at the same time making a little money on the side and filling a release window.

Honestly if it was main production one at that price I would still buy it because it looks cool and would totally be worth 75(after discount) bucks to add to my battlefield terrain collection. But now that I know what it looks like I can start planning my own probably based around vortex grenade templates.

I wont be able to buy this unfortunately but even though I cant this release has given me(and the community) something we had been looking for and I think they should get credit for that. In the scheme of things they are not going to make as much as they EASILY could on these generators but the community is benefiting a lot.

I might go for those craters.
Assuming of course that the craters shown is actually what we are getting. Remember those sharp-looking craters/battle-scars that we thought we bought? Remember the vacuum-formed mess that we actually was delivered?

Well, I assumed GW learned.......their.......lesson.....

Oh....

Nevermind.


@Leth

If GW sees a need they cannot fulfill.......they remove the need post haste.
Just look at their childish handling of the aftermath of the Chapterhouse case.




...

So, they discontinued the actually good craters set and brought out a crap craters set covered in imperial-guard-specific wreckage and corpse and skulls?

Any chance someone put them up for the work blocked please?

I actually quite like the generator, but not at whatever horrifying price GW want for it. Not because the price will be inherently too expensive for resin terrain - when someone produces something truly incredible featuring tons of work I could never do myself, like those chaps making Mordheim/Empire-style buildings using individually dressed and assembled miniature blocks of stone, then I'll fork over - but because there's nothing in that model you couldn't do yourself with plasticard or cardboard, a tube tool, and a box of skeleton warriors.

I actually really like the void shield generator...and I don't even play competitively. I'm considering picking one up, but would probably end up using it as scenery rather than for the rules...

Very interesting that it's a resin kit too...the m ind boggles.

and finally, it need to be said:

Why make it LE? Dammit GW.

D

You know what's great about this release? We now know the size of the generator, meaning that it is now possible to scratch build it.

Now, how to make a necron void shield / quantum shield generator...I'm thinking crystals.

I like the craters. Not sure if I can justify buying more craters when we've already got several sets of the old ones.

Yeah.. I'll just make my own craters. Easy enough to do with polyfilla,polystyrene,cardboard, sand and spare bits

Generator looks terrible. Craters are ok but I wish that they didn't make them imperial specific looking. Generic would have been better.

 plastictrees wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And the best way to recoup costs for a low-selling product is to do a limited run on something?

Yes. By reducing volume they will drive up demand which....and then....hmm.

Rise the price sky high, so you need to act quick if you want to pay to win? But of course this is just a single building kit, there's no way it would cos- ..oh, right.

The terrain looks relatively cool, but is expensive. They serve as great inspiration for scratch-building my own though.

Does it have enough skulls though?

Normally I buy all of GW's terrain.. but this for 100$? Er, no thanks.. Maybe if they priced it correctly at 50$ I'd do it.

Craters are cool tho, although not sure how a huge weapon kills only the organic parts of a guardsman and leaves the armor :p

Gw idiocy raises its ugly head again.

So the void shield generator is a limited release worldwide of 1000 resin kits.

After all the trouble they take to make codex releases comprehensive so that third party suppliers are starved of opportunities (Chapterhouse), they make a new unit with limited edition release but of great utility on the battlefield.

According to my local manager the rules mean that you will need to remove all the void shields from the generator before harming nearby units, as void shields stop strength D these are excellent parking points for Shadowswords and command units vulnerable to Strength D attack. Keeping a Shadowsword or general etc alive for an extra turn while facing enemy Strength D is an obvious benefit. These are the first things to be targeted, again for obvious reasons,
Whether or not this interpretation of the rules is entirely true the local staff have certainly made the piece tempting to buy for many. It appears for Escalation this is a must buy for many armies, and you might also want more than one..
As a result people will want more than the thousand of them available worldwide.

Is it too far fetched for Chapterhouse, or someone else to make a Gothic generator next month for general release? And as Gothic generators can mean anything, even if skulls are included GW can do nothing about it, they could be called water pumps for all they care so long as there is an electric doo-dah on top in a gothic arch with skulls which players may choose to identify as a void shield generator.
Buildings are the very hardest styles to trademark.

If GW wanted to make a model release purposely to do themselves out of sales and fuel a third party manufacturer they hate, this would be the way to do it. If they don't like Chapterhouse very much then they should have released a regular kit, or nothing at all.

Anyone in the least bit surprised GW hasn't thought this through.

I quite like the craters, but don't think they are worth the money - not when you can get some half decent ones from Amera for buttons. The Void Generator is very grimdark, I like it but doubt I have enough hobby funds left to purchase one after DBE and purchasing a Knight.

Saxon wrote:
I quite like the craters, but don't think they are worth the money - not when you can get some half decent ones from Amera for buttons. The Void Generator is very grimdark, I like it but doubt I have enough hobby funds left to purchase one after DBE and purchasing a Knight.

I dont like the craters very much, they dont look like craters.
With craters the debris around the edge is blown tobits not intact, so they are only old craters turned into hardpoints. However for that to make sense some rhyme or reason for their improvement should be evident. I liked the old moonscape craters, I like Wall of Martyrs kits, I dont like this.

As for the void shield generator, all hard and armoured with externally mounted servitors. So in order to disable the generator you don't need melta bombs, you just walk up to the wired in zombies with a laspistol. For a fortification unit I think the vulnerability a little absurd, any momentary lossof shielding is effectively fatal to anyone capable of shooting the servitors. At least vehicles and titans have their servitors on the inside.

So what are the Hobbit models?

 Kanluwen wrote:
So what are the Hobbit models?

Different thread?

Craters look cool, but that generator looks really fugly.

Giant gears in the base? Old-school orbs at the top? It looks like they had a building they were working on for Fantasy, but someone said 'Hey, if we put a Mechanicum thing on this, and some pipes, we can sell it in 40k!' - 'Right, but this was supposed to be a Forgeworld model for Fantasy.' - 'That's alright, we'll just make it limited release!' - 'But, it's supposed to be made in resin...' - 'Oh, whatever, just release it. The fact that it's resin will just make all those nerds on the internet think we're actually fusing the two websites together. It'll be great!'

The craters are craters.

 evildrcheese wrote:
I actually really like the void shield generator...and I don't even play competitively. I'm considering picking one up, but would probably end up using it as scenery rather than for the rules...

Very interesting that it's a resin kit too...the m ind boggles.

and finally, it need to be said:

Why make it LE? Dammit GW.

D

I would imagine that this was originally in plastic. I suspect Wall of Martyrs / Redoubt / Strongpoint sales simply did meet their expectations, and so they elected to produce in resin rather than plastic to cut production costs. Going limited also means it doesn't have to take up shelf-space / storage etc...

Yeah, I'll just make my own generators, thanks. And to make them look official, I'll glue half of a Warhammer zombie to each one.

I really think the Void Shield Gen would have done MUCH better if released along with the supporting book. As of now, I know a ton of people that made their own using the Bastion as a size guide, so I doubt any of them are going to take the $100 backdoor from GW but perhaps mod their own model to look more appropriate for LoS.

GW fails on this one, big time. Are we suprised?

Geez that Generator is one fugly building...And they plan to sell it for $100 US??? That like $120 Canadian...

Someone needs to lay off the crack a little.

I do sort of like the craters though.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Seems GW pushed back April releases to April and we get another week with surplus releases to fill a WD:

Just for the record, since the switch to weekly releases, there's no such thing as "releases by month" anymore for GW. Sales reps from GW have been reiterating since February that each and every week could be a curveball. Since the switch we've had three weeks of dwarfs, two weeks of imperial knights, a week of chaos marines, a week of basically nothing (Damocles), and next week is mostly Lord of the Rings and terrain for 40K. I would guess high profile army book releases will be spread over two to three weeks, but nothing is tied to any given month anymore. Nothing was pushed back. Dakka just got its hands on White Dwarf #9 realllly early.

Got to love the guardsmen remain in the "Quake Cannon" craters. Go, go friendly fire!

 torgoch wrote:

 evildrcheese wrote:
I actually really like the void shield generator...and I don't even play competitively. I'm considering picking one up, but would probably end up using it as scenery rather than for the rules...

Very interesting that it's a resin kit too...the m ind boggles.

and finally, it need to be said:

Why make it LE? Dammit GW.

D

I would imagine that this was originally in plastic. I suspect Wall of Martyrs / Redoubt / Strongpoint sales simply did meet their expectations, and so they elected to produce in resin rather than plastic to cut production costs. Going limited also means it doesn't have to take up shelf-space / storage etc...

Yeah, I don't think their reasoning is too hard to figure out here. DJGietzen laid it out nicely earlier. People can certainly dislike the release for a variety of reasons, but it doesn't make GW stupid regarding their marketing for this item.

I like the Imperial weapon created crater surrounded by Imperial debris and bodies.

When is Codex: Void Shield Generator being released?

I don't want to miss the limited hardback.

 scarletsquig wrote:
When is Codex: Void Shield Generator being released?

I don't want to miss the limited hardback.

With the faux energy field dust jacket? I wonder if they'll have a coffee table book to go with it.

I like those craters

Anyone else notice the large caliber gun on the Chimera?


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Disregard that, that isn't a Chimera...

 Avrik_Shasla wrote:
Anyone else notice the large caliber gun on the Chimera?


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Disregard that, that isn't a Chimera...

Nope, it's a Devil Dog.

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
I really think the Void Shield Gen would have done MUCH better if released along with the supporting book.

No what we need is Codex: Void Shields, a "Void Shield Companion" and a Void Shield novella (with a limited edition that costs 3x as much as a mainstream hardback release).

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
You know what's great about this release? We now know the size of the generator, meaning that it is now possible to scratch build it.

Now, how to make a necron void shield / quantum shield generator...I'm thinking crystals.

I'd start with four of the big guns from the Doomsday Ark mounted vertically on a nice blocky plinth, myself. Since most people mainly use the kit for Ghost Arks, you can probably get some pretty easily in the swap shop.

JM

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
I really think the Void Shield Gen would have done MUCH better if released along with the supporting book.

No what we need is Codex: Void Shields, a "Void Shield Companion" and a Void Shield novella (with a limited edition that costs 3x as much as a mainstream hardback release).

Don't forget the accompanying Void Shield mobile app that simulates tesla coil sounds and sights for only $10 USD ($15 AUD).

Actually, I do like the design of the Generator... I'd like it even more if it was $70 to buy, instead of 100.

vortexdr wrote:
Someone needs to lay off the crack a little.

... what if that's what the high-prices are for? What if the higher-ups have a legitimate crack addiction, and slapping on exorbitant prices for plastic models is the method they use to support their drug-fueled-orgy lifestyles? We could all be paying for an expensive Slaneeshi cult, and none would be the wiser!

OOOOOHHHH! I've been wanting "Dataslate: Craters"!

I'm hoping they have rules so that every time I shoot a Quake cannon I get to place a crater centered to the blast template.

At this point, I'm fairly sure GW is simply trolling us.

 Manchu wrote:
At this point, I'm fairly sure GW is simply trolling us.

I wish I could photoshop well. I just had the mental picture of the "how to paint space marines" changed to "how to troll your customers" with the photos replaced by centurions, storm raven, storm talon, taurox and featuring the Wilfred brimley ogre doing ballon quotes on each page.

 Theophony wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
At this point, I'm fairly sure GW is simply trolling us.

I wish I could photoshop well. I just had the mental picture of the "how to paint space marines" changed to "how to troll your customers" with the photos replaced by centurions, storm raven, storm talon, taurox and featuring the Wilfred brimley ogre doing ballon quotes on each page.

Ugh. I love how just because some folks don't like a new release, that equals trolling their fanbase. Sigh.

As an aside, Centurions, Storm Raven and Storm Talon were all panned during the 'leaked pictures' phase and then did very well afterwards. So a more accurate question would be 'Are the picture leakers trolling us?'.

These new IG and Void generator releases are getting me really excited about buying more Bolt Action.

 Strombones wrote:
These new IG and Void generator releases are getting me really excited about buying more Bolt Action.

Just checking, since I don't frequent WMH or Bolt Action threads, but is it considered appropriate for me to pop in there and post 'These new Khador releases are really getting me excited about buying 40k.'? If so, I may have a new hobby.

I was pretty worried about the craters and how they might look until I saw that they are covered in skulls and dead Cadians and visually only fit in amongst urban tables.

Phew. Everything appears to be status quo in GW-land.

 pretre wrote:

 Strombones wrote:
These new IG and Void generator releases are getting me really excited about buying more Bolt Action.

Just checking, since I don't frequent WMH or Bolt Action threads, but is it considered appropriate for me to pop in there and post 'These new Khador releases are really getting me excited about buying 40k.'? If so, I may have a new hobby.

Yes it is appropriate to criticize the void generator in the void generator thread

 Kroothawk wrote:
Seems GW pushed back April releases to April and we get another week with surplus releases to fill a WD:

Spoiler:

More pics (in spoilers because of size):
[spoiler]

anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:Pre-Orders March 22nd Released March 29th
Void Shield Generator $100
Quake Cannon Crater $37
Clan Raukaan $49.50 (online only)
Clan Raukaan Limited Edition $90 (online only)

Void Shield Generator
Limited edition - 1000 copies numbered in fancy box
Made of 10 hard resin pieces, and extremely detailed. Its a square structure with a platform on which emerges 4 towers with the void shield generator in the center of them. The structure looks as tall and wide as a bastion.
Its listed at $100

Quake Cannon Craters
These are plastic, and come with 4 craters. Each of the craters come in two halves, so that they can be pulled apart and used as a rough battlefield barricade using battlefield debris as a wall. There is a lot of detail and wreckage on these, and being able to use them as a barricade of sorts makes them nice.
Listed at $37

On this weeks WD:

reader on faeit212 wrote:there is no mention of the new IG anywhere. Cover is the generator, there's about 15 pages devoted to Lord of the Rings, a quick Nids vs Imperial Knights battle report (Looks like Nids get hammered, 1 knight wipes out half of the Nid list) and the aforementioned how to deal with knights discussion with the developers.

BTW current WD also uses 2 pages to describe how awesome an old Gandalf miniature is.[/spoiler]

Yay, more releases that no one demanded, no one really wants, that are way too expensive anyway. Who makes these kinds of decisions at GW?

Dude, that whole quote for a one line response?

Uncalled for!

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Reds8n

Man I sure am excited for that new Hobbit stuff.

I hope it's another alternate Bilbo sculpt.


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Also GW throws logic out the window and makes a limited edition...building... a single model makes sense but a whole building?


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BASELESS CONSPIRACY TIME:

Nobody actually seemed to predict this release in the months leading up to this which is strange to say the least.

What if IG were planned to be the week that the void generator is but they decided to throw off rumor trackers by shoving some rejected building designs down our throats.

It makes sense under GW logic

I dunno, maybe he was serious? Sometimes I enjoy reading GW release threads for the entertainment value.

So, I ask again, when exactly do pre-orders go up?

Has to be tomorrow (well, later today ~1800 GMT) as we know the Guard stuff goes up next week.

So, something in the region of 16 hours from time of posting.

So 7am tomorrow morning... gotcha.

I can pull an all-nighter playing Skyrim.

HBMC wrote:Hi, my name is HBMC, and I have a problem. I'm a terrainaholic.

FTFY

 pretre wrote:
As an aside, Centurions, Storm Raven and Storm Talon were all panned during the 'leaked pictures' phase and then did very well afterwards.

I think that's going to depend on your definition of 'very well'...

Ive seen a grand total of one unit of Centurions on the table, and while the Storm Raven and Storm Talon are more widely used, they're also still widely reviled for their appearance.

I bought a box of centurions and I'm still a bit disgusted with myself. I may have warmed to the models a little due to the aesthetic changes I was able to make during the construction process but if I'm honest I bought them for one reason only: their rules. They're stupid good with grav cannons.

 azreal13 wrote:

HBMC wrote:Hi, my name is HBMC, and I have a problem. I'm a terrainaholic.

FTFY

This is something I will never deny!

The craters look okay, but that generator is the worst kind of over-designed, overly-busy awful.

That's precisely why I like it. It looks like the kind of over-the-top nonsense the Adeptus Mechanicus would make. Their motto really shouldn't be "The flesh is weak". It should be "Never make a simple machine when a super-complex one will do".

"Also, glue more skullz on."

Skulls (and preserved brains) are the machine spirits, so more important machines get more skulls.

 azreal13 wrote:
Dude, that whole quote for a one line response?

Uncalled for!

Sorry , I actually tried to use the spoiler tag, but it was the first time I'd ever tried and apparently I didn't do it right.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That's precisely why I like it. It looks like the kind of over-the-top nonsense the Adeptus Mechanicus would make. Their motto really shouldn't be "The flesh is weak". It should be "Never make a simple machine when a super-complex one will do".

Wait, are you implying the AdMech are Germans?

I never thought a WD cover would be graced with the premiere release of the week, when that release is a building...

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

The Void Shield thing is kinda neat, but it seems a bit overpriced.

I would have liked the craters if they hadn't, as always, assembled them with Dead Cadian© spackle.

 Ouze wrote:


I would have liked the craters if they hadn't, as always, assembled them with Dead Cadian© spackle.

This continued aesthetic choice is ensuring I spend my money on other things.

Why is there never a crater littered with empty beer cans?

 pretre wrote:
Ugh. I love how just because some folks don't like a new release, that equals trolling their fanbase. Sigh.

Even if this stuff was likeable, and I think some of it is slightly likeable in a sick, perverted way, the Void Shield Generator is ostensibly the size of a bastion for twice the cost. Would it need to be $150 or even $200 to wake you up? Hear that, GW? Troll harder next time.

 Manchu wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Ugh. I love how just because some folks don't like a new release, that equals trolling their fanbase. Sigh.

Even if this stuff was likeable, and I think some of it is slightly likeable in a sick, perverted way, the Void Shield Generator is ostensibly the size of a bastion for twice the cost. Would it need to be $150 or even $200 to wake you up? Hear that, GW? Troll harder next time.

Some people like this stuff, just because you don't doesn't mean it is bad or trolling. Heck, H.B.M.C. loves the void shield generator and has made it known. I'm thinking of getting one. You don't like it. We get it. (Bonus points for implying that people who like this release have to like it in a sick, perverted way. :rolleyes: )

Re: Price,I'm pretty sure an Imperial Knight is the size of a bastion for three times the price. Guess what, GW stuff is expensive. It keeps getting more so. That really has little to do with trolling though and has to do with their pricing schemes (which are crazy).

So maybe pick some new words that aren't totally overplayed and inaccurate? How about "I do not like this Void Generator. It's price to value ratio is insufficient for my needs. Also, I am not a fan of the design aesthetic. GW has missed out on a sale this time."

 pretre wrote:
Bonus points for implying that people who like this release have to like it in a sick, perverted way. :rolleyes:

You know what I like about you, pretre? You have a great sense of humor and are really good at not taking posts about overpriced toy soldiers too seriously.

I don't question whether or not there are folks who absolutely love the VSD. As you mentioned, there's always at least a few. At the same time, it's not hard to tell it's a minority position ... and why that's the case. And then there's the price tag. It gives a very strong impression that folks in Nottingham are gathered around a table wondering what customers absolutely won't buy.

 Manchu wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Bonus points for implying that people who like this release have to like it in a sick, perverted way. :rolleyes:

You know what I like about you, pretre? You have a great sense of humor and are really good at not taking posts about overpriced toy soldiers too seriously.

I aim to please!

I don't question whether or not there are folks who absolutely love the VSD. As you mentioned, there's always at least a few. At the same time, it's not hard to tell it's a minority position ... and why that's the case.

Really? Because to me it looks like you're trying to make a case for your opinion to be the majority position, and a self evident one at that, from a very small pool of data (namely this thread). As we know from constant discussions on an issue, the negative voices are generally louder than the positive. You shouldn't assume just because of 'This release makes me want to buy bolt action' that the majority of players dislike it. Even if you did assume that, it is a big leap to think that 'GW is trolling' from 'a lot of people dislike it' which is what I was calling you out on.

And then there's the price tag. It gives a very strong impression that folks in Nottingham are gathered around a table wondering what customers absolutely won't buy.

GW will keep raising them as long as it works. And from the look of how well a lot of the limited editions have sold (that have been derided by the 'majority' of people as just slipcovers), they are right to.

It's clearly a minority view overall on here,

but a lot of the 'no' votes have come from the 'old guard' who have either moved on entirely from GW, or who only pick up the odd bits and pieces on ebay

(although I agree it's hardly a well prices, well designed kit)

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Gah! C'mon y'all. Where is this thing.

 pretre wrote:
Really?

Really.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's clearly a minority view overall on here

And IRL as far as my gamer buddies. I don't think the topic is serious enough to warrant a gallup poll. But the VSD does clearly fit into a line of WTF releases from GW, with the major exception being that this thing is astoundingly overpriced even for the latest GW Eyesore©®™. With the dreadknight, storm talon, khorne mower, centurions, and taurox, I just figured -- eh, I just don't like it. Seeing a pile of skull-encrusted vehicle kit bits stacked up for $100, however, feels more like being made fun of.

 Manchu wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's clearly a minority view overall on here

And IRL as far as my gamer buddies. I don't think the topic is serious enough to warrant a gallup poll. But the VSD does clearly fit into a line of WTF releases from GW, with the major exception being that this thing is astoundingly overpriced even for the latest GW Eyesore©®™. With the dreadknight, storm talon, khorne mower, centurions, and taurox, I just figured -- eh, I just don't like it. Seeing a pile of skull-encrusted vehicle kit bits stacked up for $100, however, feels more like being made fun of.

With the added bonus that even all those that want it wont be able to buy it because, you know, GW can't possibly provide people with what they want, that's just a path to crazyness.

I appreciate the price is patently ridiculous, but I think publishing rules for an object in an unlimited format, so every player can buy it, whilst creating just 1000 of the object to sell is about as stupid a concept as I have ever witnessed from a company.

NoggintheNog wrote:
I appreciate the price is patently ridiculous, but I think publishing rules for an object in an unlimited format, so every player can buy it, whilst creating just 1000 of the object to sell is about as stupid a concept as I have ever witnessed from a company.

It's a technique they developed through Black Library, selling a crappy short story in hardcover for ridiculous prices. Making garbage seem exclusive is a great way to sell it.

NoggintheNog wrote:
I appreciate the price is patently ridiculous, but I think publishing rules for an object in an unlimited format, so every player can buy it, whilst creating just 1000 of the object to sell is about as stupid a concept as I have ever witnessed from a company.

It doesn't make any sense at all. Less, even, when you consider the court case they're still fighting.

Well, I like it, and I am going to buy two !!
One mans garbage, is another mans treasure.

 Rayvon wrote:
Well, I like it, and I am going to buy two !!

Straight up baller. We need an orkmoticon with a gold grill making it rain.

Maybe there will be a one-click collection to buy like ten at a time. I guess not, it being limited and so on. Does GW ever do limits per customer on such releases?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

NoggintheNog wrote:
I appreciate the price is patently ridiculous, but I think publishing rules for an object in an unlimited format, so every player can buy it, whilst creating just 1000 of the object to sell is about as stupid a concept as I have ever witnessed from a company.

It doesn't make any sense at all. Less, even, when you consider the court case they're still fighting.

It's totally bonkers. There's got to be a subtlety to this we haven't seen yet - like resin is limited but they're doing a plastic run later? Or it's limited if you want it in a "lavish box"? Something. It can't really be this stupid. Right?

Otherwise... yeah, this is extremely stupid, even by recent standards. Couldn't care less about the price - GW is expensive, it was ever thus, it shouldn't surprise anyone - but this was a *horrible* choice for a limited edition item, any way you cut it.

 Ouze wrote:
The Void Shield thing is kinda neat, but it seems a bit overpriced.

Of course it's overpriced....it's GW.


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 Rayvon wrote:
Well, I like it, and I am going to buy two !!
One mans garbage, is another mans treasure.

Cool, you can have the one I'm not buying.

Well because if this GW has got some money from me, I ordered a bastion kit from element games so I can combine it with my bits box to create something far more aesthetically pleasing. Why they didn't do a one sprue plastic add on for their existing kit I'll never know.

This thing doesn't even have those lights in it, why does this cost this much?

IIRC, from my Adeptus Mechanicus days, didn't the titans themselves have void shields as equipment on the larger vehicles?

Craters are already on from the foam cutter and some sand and glue, This "Void Shield Generator" looks like something I could cobble together with some foam-core boards, and some wedding cake pillers, add in a couple of lights in some ping pong balls, and call it a day. I'd even throw in a baby skull from Halloween for a drivers seat.

I'll crank out a few and I'll sell them for 50.00, each. I'll even throw in an extra set of batteries.

The more GW pushes, the more I'm really leaning to push back.

It's not bad terrain, its just bad execution I see here.

I feel like this is one of their worst designed terrain pieces to date.. It just doesn't look like anything cool

Still ain't up.

 Kirasu wrote:
I feel like this is one of their worst designed terrain pieces to date.. It just doesn't look like anything cool

I agree. I want to like this thing, but I cannot due to a design that feels haphazard and functionally stupid. In a way it looks like someone took a an altar from Warhammer and added a bunch of techno bits to 40k it up. If this was a fan creation I'd think it was okay, but as an official product I can't see myself buying one of these for anywhere near approaching the asking price (even with internet discounts if those are possible). Maybe additional pictures will help change my mind but I kinda doubt it. The four pillars and the elevated platform upon which they reside are just goofy looking. And that Servitor? WTF, mate?

Perhaps it is 19.00 GMT, not 18.00, 15 mins from now.


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It's happening, for those interested.

It's up, still no explanation of why the feth it's £65 but there we go

Typical GW....call it limited edition double the price haha

Craters look cool though I wish they were $25 though.

OOhhhh, it looks like the parts are held in individually-molded plastic protectors, I think I have discovered the secret of why it cost so much!

Seriously though, I feel like some of the more recent kits, specifically kits that GW does not have old background imagery to pull from, have been increasingly lackluster. The Taurox and Centurions are the same sort of "MOAR DETAILS" that I think just looks junky, no reason for added details other than it looks kewl (in comparsion the Imperial Knight, which has a ton of old materials, turned out great).

I wonder if GW themselves realized this wasn't their best work, and figured their most loyal would buy off these 1000 kits.

its gone :(
missed it

 skkipper wrote:
its gone :(
missed it

they'll be all over ebay in a couple of weeks, as with all the limited stuff.

Man, I was going to get one, but poof, gone.

Maybe GW will realize LE models sell like mad, LE books are meh.

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Guess I was too slow.

Does anyone know what the quality of the resin is like? I know its not the finecast stuff, but is it the same as forgeworld? That would be one of my biggest concerns... not that I can get one if I wanted at this point

 skkipper wrote:
its gone :(
missed it

Seems this kit should make a nice alternative

http://www.thewarstore.com/product9680.html

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 skkipper wrote:
its gone :(
missed it

Seems this kit should make a nice alternative

http://www.thewarstore.com/product9680.html

Not a fan of the aesthestic but the price is right.

 squall018 wrote:
Does anyone know what the quality of the resin is like? I know its not the finecast stuff, but is it the same as forgeworld? That would be one of my biggest concerns... not that I can get one if I wanted at this point

Its poly stone. If you've ever picked up any sort of limited edition statuette from some popular sci if or fantasy IP, you're probably familiar.

Damn GW, I was wrong, it looks like people will buy whatever you put out at what ever price you set! I can only imagine someone at corporate is kicking themselves that they didn't set the price at $150.

Wow Sold Out... so fast. I still can't imagine why it would be limited edition for an item that has rules available normally. Then again it was the same with the Apocalypse templates at first (I just noticed there are clear plastic ones up now).

Clan Raukaan LE still available for those that missed the void shield generator!

Sold out in the US huh? And Europe?

Guess there are benefits for staying up. It's 7am in Australia, and I just ordered mine.


And this is from GW.com:

GW Sales Team, 'cause they don't have a marketing team wrote:Own a terrain piece that is truly one of a kind.

Well... one of 1000. If it were one of a kind there would only be one. Well done guys!


Anyway, time for bed methinks.

Pre orders are up on the US site.

You know what I'm taking from this? The VSG has the nicest packaging of any GW product I've ever seen.

Maybe that's why it's $100....

godswildcard wrote:
Pre orders are up on the US site.

You're a bit late to the party. It's already sold out - you can't add it to your cart on either the US or UK stores.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

godswildcard wrote:
Pre orders are up on the US site.

You're a bit late to the party. It's already sold out - you can't add it to your cart on either the US or UK stores.

And that kiddies is why we make sure we read all the way to the end of the thread BEFORE posting. *sigh* I'll get the hang of it one of these days.

Still a nice package though.

I got one, I would have never bought it if it wasnt limited edition. However the fact that i may want it some day for some army kinda forces me to buy it so I guess that kind of marketing does work lol.

Was the price of this "regionally adjusted" or did the non UK price translate roughly to £65 GBP?

US = US$100
UK = US$107
OZ = US$109
CA = US$106

So minimal difference.

[EDIT]: And gone from the Oz store as well. Cannot add to cart. That was quick.

I don't see how it could be broken up into smaller boxes and sold individually like wall of martyrs. It appears to be all one thing right?

Ah, ok, so polystone also transcends whatever spurious reason they have convinced themselves justifies their regional pricing policy.

It's the new Finecast!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
[EDIT]: And gone from the Oz store as well. Cannot add to cart. That was quick.

Did you get one first?

I have an order number. It remains to be seen whether that means anything though.

@hbmc I actually ordered from the az store right when i posted that as it was sold out in us/uk so thanks for the heads up that it was still in stock there.

Hope you enjoy the Citadel™ FineShipping™, that tacks on a ludicrous shipping charge not of the same reality to regular shipping costs just to ensure we stick to our regional stores.

eh was 20$ usd more then it would have costed me from the usa store. So pretty good deal imo as the ebay price will be insane i think.

Interestingly I haven't found any on eBay yet, but then again it's only been on sale for 40 minutes.

Remember the 6th edition rule book debacle where they sold way more then they had, I hope that doesn't happen here.

Given the web store won't let you add it to your card, I have to say that they were prepared for this.

So GW just made a quick $100,000.

Who's getting a pay out? Probably covers Kirbys coke fix for the day

Here's to hoping I get one on ebay for less than 300.

 Tironum wrote:
Here's to hoping I get one on ebay for less than 300.

Serious? Geeze. I'm not that hardcore.

Sold out in Europe as well. Why?
Good thing that I didn't want one.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Sold out in Europe as well. Why?

Presumably because people who wanted them bought them.

Good thing that I didn't want one.

Good thing!

 Kroothawk wrote:
Sold out in Europe as well. Why?

Because people wanted them, maybe?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Sold out in Europe as well. Why?

Because people wanted them, maybe?

Literal minded-five!

So did anyone manage to get that monstrosity?

 Desubot wrote:
So did anyone manage to get that monstrosity?

Is it silly question day? Yeah, about 1000 people got them.

Oh damn i had it written then manage to change it lol

i meant to say did anyone on dakka manage ti get it

Who knows. As I said on the last page, I have an order number, but that may mean nothing if GWOZ sold more than was allotted to them.

 pretre wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
So did anyone manage to get that monstrosity?

Is it silly question day? Yeah, about 1000 people got them.

That's just mean!

all sold out already? I was hoping to snag one. Probably gonna stop by my GW tomorrow and see if they have some still.

It was pre orders, I doubt you're store will be able to help, unless they've held some back specifically for B+M retail, which would certainly take the shine off the speed they've sold through if that is the case.

So just had a look at it on the GW website...

The box looks more appealing than the model tbh...

And that servitor looks like an half-arsed job, seriously that "sacred Warhammer" in Ultramarines the movie entrenched in all that wiring had more dimensions than that thing..

Half arsed job and they knew it.

The White Dwarf is going to look a wee bit daft tomorrow, advertising something that has already been sold out in less than an hour.

Damn. Missed the boat...why LE GW? Why?

D

Games Workshop: Fulchester

15 mins ·
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Sadly, we have sold out of Void Shield Generators.
As a special offer we are selling boxes of generated void! Only £10 a box. Supply limited!

i wonder out of the 1000 people that bought it, how many bought it to actually use it vs resale

Don't know if it's been noted yet, but those craters, it's a pack of two sets of two identical ones..



Same Chimera pieces. Same barrel and Baneblade wheel.

Damn. GW sold, at retail, $100,000 U.S. in @ 40 minutes. Well, I planned on ordering one, but had no idea it would sell out. I guess, based on dakka comments that it would have been sitting on some shelf at GW collecting dust.

 Sarigar wrote:
Damn. GW sold, at retail, $100,000 U.S. in @ 40 minutes. Well, I planned on ordering one, but had no idea it would sell out. I guess, based on dakka comments that it would have been sitting on some shelf at GW collecting dust.

I know right!?! Dakka declared it an unsellable triple twist pile of steaming something, and yet it sold out. Its almost as if there is a buying public out there that doesn't frequent Dakka. *Boggle*

You have to wonder where the buying public is getting all it's knowledge from to buy it up minutes after it's totally unpromoted release though huh?

1000 units is still very little for a global company, factor in that many may well have been purchased speculatively, not because they're actually wanted, and some-many may have been held back for other sales channels, it might not be half the achievement you think.

yeah,
Tomorrow morning when people buy the new white dwarf it will contain news of mini they can't buy...

Just like when they released the gamers editions of the new 40k edition...
And the crusade of fire selling out before the launch of that months White Dwarf.

They've switched a to a weekly publication and they still can't get it right.

 BrookM wrote:
Don't know if it's been noted yet, but those craters, it's a pack of two sets of two identical ones..
Same Chimera pieces. Same barrel and Baneblade wheel.

GW wrote:This kit contains eight quake cannon crater halves which feature four distinctive designs. They can be assembled in a number of different ways to make four craters.

You get 8 halfs.

There are 4 designs of half ... so I guess you can make several unique combinations.

Panic...

 azreal13 wrote:
You have to wonder where the buying public is getting all it's knowledge from to buy it up minutes after it's totally unpromoted release though huh?

1000 units is still very little for a global company, factor in that many may well have been purchased speculatively, not because they're actually wanted, and some-many may have been held back for other sales channels, it might not be half the achievement you think.

Not the first time GW created a fake shortage. Remember how they "Found" some space hulks lying around?


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 Cruentus wrote:

 Sarigar wrote:
Damn. GW sold, at retail, $100,000 U.S. in @ 40 minutes. Well, I planned on ordering one, but had no idea it would sell out. I guess, based on dakka comments that it would have been sitting on some shelf at GW collecting dust.

I know right!?! Dakka declared it an unsellable triple twist pile of steaming something, and yet it sold out. Its almost as if there is a buying public out there that doesn't frequent Dakka. *Boggle*

Actually, most of us said it was a pile of gak, but the morons and profiteers were going to buy it.


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 happygolucky wrote:
So just had a look at it on the GW website...

The box looks more appealing than the model tbh...

And that servitor looks like an half-arsed job, seriously that "sacred Warhammer" in Ultramarines the movie entrenched in all that wiring had more dimensions than that thing..

Half arsed job and they knew it.

Half assed is the companys new mantra. Recycled everything, $60 books with 2 pages of rules that took less then a few hours to make. Complete abandonment of structure and leaving it up to people to govern themselves (cause that works). And they wonder why so many people are leaving.

Honestly, I would just buy a couple of these, mount them on a little platform, and call it good as a void shield generator. Looks a damn sight better than the GW version, anyway (and far cheaper, too).

 Cruentus wrote:

 Sarigar wrote:
Damn. GW sold, at retail, $100,000 U.S. in @ 40 minutes. Well, I planned on ordering one, but had no idea it would sell out. I guess, based on dakka comments that it would have been sitting on some shelf at GW collecting dust.

I know right!?! Dakka declared it an unsellable triple twist pile of steaming something, and yet it sold out. Its almost as if there is a buying public out there that doesn't frequent Dakka. *Boggle*

1,000 units is a very small run for a company the size of GW. The other thing is that while I (and others here and elsewhere) might think it looks gak, that doesn't mean others aren't allowed to love it to death. Nor does it make either opinion or those who hold it evil.


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 Ravenous D wrote:


Actually, most of us said it was a pile of gak, but the morons and profiteers were going to buy it.

No need for such rudeness. Remember Rule #1.


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 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Honestly, I would just buy a couple of these, mount them on a little platform, and call it good as a void shield generator. Looks a damn sight better than the GW version, anyway (and far cheaper, too).

I quite like the look of those (and the pegasus kit shown earlier). Though I prefer the older kind of GW terrain aesthetic (think Necromunda) which both kits are closer to.

Well, after all that I was too late anyway, I thought it was due at midnight !

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Honestly, I would just buy a couple of these, mount them on a little platform, and call it good as a void shield generator. Looks a damn sight better than the GW version, anyway (and far cheaper, too).

I like it, simple and effective.

im not sure about the GW one. lol at the plastic zombie guy glued onto the side.
i think it needs some flying babies. maybe a flying baby flying off of another flying baby with a flying baby flying off that flying baby and that flying baby has a large banner backpack. (not serious)

 Rayvon wrote:
Well, after all that I was too late anyway, I thought it was due at midnight !

This is by no means a criticism, of you or anyone else, but it does seem to be taking a lot of people a long time to get out of the old release pattern way of thinking, ie midnight pre orders and monthly waves.

Its a brave new world people!

Actually looks like the price hike comes because the model is "pre-cleaned and ready to assemble"

Would anyone be shocked if there was a non-limited release in a month with a normal, non numbered box for $80?

 whalemusic360 wrote:
Would anyone be shocked if there was a non-limited release in a month with a normal, non numbered box for $80?

GW lowering the price on anything would be quite shocking. It sold out in 15 min what should we do? Hmm lower the price !

I have to wonder how many of these will be sitting in GW stores down here 6 months from now. Of the 1,000 boxes I can't imagine the various national webstores were allotted more than three quarters of the total stock.

There are still 8 copies of crusade of fire between the FLGS and GW store in my city.

 Ravenous D wrote:
Actually, most of us said it was a pile of gak, but the morons and profiteers were going to buy it.

I am neither a moron nor a profiteer.

Choose your words more carefully.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:
Actually, most of us said it was a pile of gak, but the morons and profiteers were going to buy it.

I am neither a moron nor a profiteer.

Choose your words more carefully.

Agreed. I would have bought one f I could.

Crazy "maybe they actually have a plan" theory:

Make a new kit, but you don't know if it will actually sell. So you make a limited resin release to see if people are interested. If the demand is there you go back and actually tool the molds for a non-limited plastic release.

Too much "that would make sense" for GW?

You're a crazy man doosa. Crazy I say.

Makes far to much sense.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:
Actually, most of us said it was a pile of gak, but the morons and profiteers were going to buy it.

I am neither a moron nor a profiteer.

Choose your words more carefully.

No, you're an addict, you have a compulsion, so you get off on grounds of diminished responsibility.

I think the only thing more crazy would be to release a bunch of high-detail plastic sculpts and make that a limited... oh wait...

 d-usa wrote:
Crazy "maybe they actually have a plan" theory:

Make a new kit, but you don't know if it will actually sell. So you make a limited resin release to see if people are interested. If the demand is there you go back and actually tool the molds for a non-limited plastic release.

Too much "that would make sense" for GW?

You forgot

"Slap a £90 price tag on it"

 azreal13 wrote:
so you get off on grounds of diminished responsibility.

"Diminished responsibility". I like it. It's got a ring to it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:
Actually, most of us said it was a pile of gak, but the morons and profiteers were going to buy it.

I am neither a moron nor a profiteer.

Choose your words more carefully.

Sorry, I'll add in financial masochists and people with poor taste in there

Oh and I looked up polystone, its dirt cheap because its brittle as hell and used for 3D printers, you got double gouged. I have a few statues in polystone and they shatter easily. Good luck!

You spend a lot of time shattering your statues?

Was totally going to buy it if I had not just bought two knights....my poor budget cant keep up right now.

 pretre wrote:

Agreed. I would have bought one f I could.

Which is precisely why making it limited was so idiotic.

Now, I think its ridiculously overpriced personally, and I also think some deadzone scenery, a few canon barrels and sundries from the bits box and some led lights will make a nicer model anyway, but the model itself IS very 40K, and so people will want to buy it. Nothing at all wrong with that, apart from GW not wanting everyone who wants one to get one. Because that is just utterly insane.

 jonolikespie wrote:
I have to wonder how many of these will be sitting in GW stores down here 6 months from now. Of the 1,000 boxes I can't imagine the various national webstores were allotted more than three quarters of the total stock.

A grand total of zero. As no GW stores or national webstores were alotted any: This has been mail order only.

Though on the bright side the craters which I think look pretty good (not too many dead cadians) seem to be general general release and proper plastic.

 ironicsilence wrote:
i wonder out of the 1000 people that bought it, how many bought it to actually use it vs resale

And that is why "Limited Edition" is bollocks, because when these things sell out it isn't because it's popular, it's because parasites buy a big chunk of them up and then try to sell them on for triple the retail price(and I have no qualms about using that word, people who buy up ltd editions expressly for the purpose of jacking up the price and selling it on are as bad as high frequency commodity traders; they make things more expensive for ordinary people and enrich themselves without adding any value to society). Of course, it wouldn't be an issue if companies operated on the basis of sustainable long-term profit rather than focusing entirely on the next quarterly report and as a result basing their business on lurching from one artificially inflated microbubble to the next.

 Azazelx wrote:
You spend a lot of time shattering your statues?

Only the 2 the cat got to.

 Yodhrin wrote:
...they make things more expensive for ordinary people and enrich themselves without adding any value to society).....

Although it's worth pointing out that this only works because people are willing to pay that higher price.

The same has been pointed out about ticket scalping - if people just stopped paying more than the original price, scalpers would be out of business.

You can't stop people from buying stuff from scalpers any more than you can stop people scalping. With gig tickets that's one thing - there's a logical reason for the scarcity.

 Bull0 wrote:
You can't stop people from buying stuff from scalpers any more than you can stop people scalping. With gig tickets that's one thing - there's a logical reason for the scarcity.

Yeah. The same reason there is with Void Shield Generators: Diminishing Returns on the man-hours of the musicians/pour-resin-into-the-mould-people. Given, the former are often millionaires and the latter minimum-wage grunts, but keeping supplies artificially low is still a good way to make the most of labour-intensive product/services.

Works the same with Emma Bridgewater cups and plates, hand-made Swiss watches, etc.., Stuff you cannot automatise as you can with plastic/finecast, is going to be better of at low quantities at a premium price.

See Kingdom Death Resins, etc..,

Wasn't thinking so much man-hours of the musicians as free seats available for bums. Not artificial. And your model of mould-pouring time doesn't really hold up because we know GW are capable of manufacturing model kits much like this one on a massive scale - didn't have to be resin, etc. It's totally artificial. I'm also not terribly convinced this is a productive area of discussion.

 Bull0 wrote:
Wasn't thinking so much man-hours of the musicians as free seats available for bums. Not artificial. And your model of mould-pouring time doesn't really hold up because we know GW are capable of manufacturing model kits much like this one on a massive scale - didn't have to be resin, etc. It's totally artificial. I'm also not terribly convinced this is a productive area of discussion.

Well, the musicians could play an infinite number of gigs in the same venue, so seats would not be a problem (not any more than soft hand-cast resin mould wearing out after a while).

And yes, GW has produced plastic terrain, which is a different production method more suitable to high volumes of sales. Tempestus Firebase. Fortress of Redemption. Etc.....

Maybe these didn't sell enough to justify the plastic-approach, so they piloted something different?

Vote with your wallet and buy a Fortress of Redemption or two, if that is the way you want GW to make terrain.

Guess GW has now learned that 1000 customers worldwide are enough to keep the company running.

Well, they did release unlimited & plastic & (relatively) cheap blast craters.

Guess what?

Nobody cares.......

I wonder if they've sold 1.000 of those by now? Or are they struggling, cause they just fall into the same old "I can always buy that later" terrain-hole....

Will GW turn the VSG into plastic? Or will they take the plastic craters off and re-release them as LE resin?

 azreal13 wrote:

 Rayvon wrote:
Well, after all that I was too late anyway, I thought it was due at midnight !

This is by no means a criticism, of you or anyone else, but it does seem to be taking a lot of people a long time to get out of the old release pattern way of thinking, ie midnight pre orders and monthly waves.

Its a brave new world people!

Yep, I will get there eventually !
No criticism of you or anyone else in particular, but its a bit sad how far people take their irrational hatred of GW, so many underhanded remarks and sly name calling in this thread just because some of us like this scenery and want to buy them.
It never ceases to amuses me how many people in this place hold a grudge and take it to the extreme in almost every GW thread.

Geez, totally missed this release lol.

Hmm, not impressed with the void generator much. Detailing is nice on it but its very "square" and not particularly inspired.
I've seen better kitbashed ones in the P&M section.

Even less impressed with the craters. Whilst the fact that they are craters precludes doing anything spectacular with them, theres lots of other potential scenery kits that could have been worked on.

Ho hum.

Aside from being tacked onto Titans, what are the generators supposed to do on the table?

Craters need to be snatched up ASAP from your local stores. The bag is even more of a deal now then when it came out.

@Grot

The VSG has rules in Stronghold Assault, IIRC it effectively means all units (models?) that are within 12" of the model get an additional AV12 shield that any incoming fire from outside 12" has to defeat before the shot is resolved against the target. You can take multiples and overlap the bubbles too. Don't hold me to that though, I've only just quickly flipped through a copy.

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 pretre wrote:

Agreed. I would have bought one f I could.

Which is precisely why making it limited was so idiotic.

Now, I think its ridiculously overpriced personally, and I also think some deadzone scenery, a few canon barrels and sundries from the bits box and some led lights will make a nicer model anyway, but the model itself IS very 40K, and so people will want to buy it. Nothing at all wrong with that, apart from GW not wanting everyone who wants one to get one. Because that is just utterly insane.

Guys, guys, guys.... this sort of release isn't at all about putting models in the hands of gamers. It's about 'we sold out of our new product, priced at $100 per unit, in 7 minutes." It's a dot-point for marketing and chest-beating purposes.

 Rayvon wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:

 Rayvon wrote:
Well, after all that I was too late anyway, I thought it was due at midnight !

This is by no means a criticism, of you or anyone else, but it does seem to be taking a lot of people a long time to get out of the old release pattern way of thinking, ie midnight pre orders and monthly waves.

Its a brave new world people!

Yep, I will get there eventually !
No criticism of you or anyone else in particular, but its a bit sad how far people take their irrational hatred of GW, so many underhanded remarks and sly name calling in this thread just because some of us like this scenery and want to buy them.
It never ceases to amuses me how many people in this place hold a grudge and take it to the extreme in almost every GW thread.

I don't think people are taking their grudges to the extreme, I think it's more a case of GW not doing anything to try and win back customer goodwill and being too big to ingnore within the hobby. They do something bad and people's opinion of them lowers, then instead of doing something good to raise it they just sue someone who doesn't deserve it and opinion lowers again. It creates a situation where people don't even think about it, they aren't intentionally trying to hate on GW or anything, they are just jaded to the point where they honestly don't expect anything good from GW.

And I'll grant you that sometimes it is but for the most part I would not say it is irrational.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:
So hard resin.. being sold through GW.
Could that have to do with the rumour FW will be available on the revamped GW site? Could lines of communication be getting crossed and it's a FW piece?
I can't really think of a better explanation unless GW are removing the distinction between GW actual and FW and throwing everything in together.

So, the Helm's Deep and Minas Tirith walls released for LOTR years and years ago were a harbinger of FW/GW blurring the lines?
Or maybe the weird little resin chapel bit with a fake stained glass thing was?

Why are you getting so easily offended and trying to come off as such a hard ass over someone speculating something?

 Bull0 wrote:
You can't stop people from buying stuff from scalpers any more than you can stop people scalping. With gig tickets that's one thing - there's a logical reason for the scarcity.

I wasn't talking about stopping people from buying from scalpers. I was talking about people stopping themselves from buying from scalpers.

But ultimately, it doesn't really make a difference whether these sold out to scalpers or to regular customers. The speed with which they sold out suggests that there would have been far more than a thousand people trying to buy them... So if you didn't buy one the moment it went up on the website, you weren't going to get one anyway. That fact that some guy on eBay is selling one that winds up going for far more than the retail price because some people are willing to pay that much doesn't really change that.

Relapse wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:
So hard resin.. being sold through GW.
Could that have to do with the rumour FW will be available on the revamped GW site? Could lines of communication be getting crossed and it's a FW piece?
I can't really think of a better explanation unless GW are removing the distinction between GW actual and FW and throwing everything in together.

So, the Helm's Deep and Minas Tirith walls released for LOTR years and years ago were a harbinger of FW/GW blurring the lines?
Or maybe the weird little resin chapel bit with a fake stained glass thing was?

Why are you getting so easily offended and trying to come off as such a hard ass over someone speculating something?

He's not offended, Kan just leans a bit towards the "intense" end of the spectrum, toy soldiers is srs bznz.

 insaniak wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
...they make things more expensive for ordinary people and enrich themselves without adding any value to society).....

Although it's worth pointing out that this only works because people are willing to pay that higher price.

The same has been pointed out about ticket scalping - if people just stopped paying more than the original price, scalpers would be out of business.

And the situation wouldn't arise in the first place if companies didn't artificially limit supply in order to create the illusion of quality or exclusivity. The amount of tickets available to any particular live event is limited by the capacity of the venue, there's not much the organisers can do to prevent scalping beyond place reasonable limits on the number of tickets any one individual can purchase, and so in that case the balance of responsibility would tip towards those willing to pay the scalpers prices for driving up the cost, and then to the scalpers themselves for inflating the price without adding value. There is no functional limit on the number of these models GW could have produced, beyond the eventual final failure of the master model preventing the creation of any more moulds - putting them up on their site as direct sale cast-to-order or with a small stock would cost them virtually nothing and create a modest but continuing stream of income(and don't anyone try this "not worth their time" rubbish, because I just described Forgeworld and they're one of the few divisions inside GW that's actually growing). Given that, the blame lies first on GW for deliberately creating the circumstances for resellers to exploit, then the resellers again for increasing cost without adding value, and only last with those who pay the inflated price, because the collaboration, unknowing thought it may be, between GW and the resellers take away any options beyond pay up or don't.

You might look at someone who sees a trend starting, buys up all the stock of the subject of that trend they can find then resells it at 200% an entrepreneur, I think they're a vile parasite.

 insaniak wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
You can't stop people from buying stuff from scalpers any more than you can stop people scalping. With gig tickets that's one thing - there's a logical reason for the scarcity.

I wasn't talking about stopping people from buying from scalpers. I was talking about people stopping themselves from buying from scalpers.

But ultimately, it doesn't really make a difference whether these sold out to scalpers or to regular customers. The speed with which they sold out suggests that there would have been far more than a thousand people trying to buy them... So if you didn't buy one the moment it went up on the website, you weren't going to get one anyway. That fact that some guy on eBay is selling one that winds up going for far more than the retail price because some people are willing to pay that much doesn't really change that.

It doesn't change the literal fact that those events happened, no, but the fact those events happened in no way refutes the argument that they were not necessary outcomes, and that those who created and exploited the conditions which led to those outcomes are scumbags. The fact that, as you say, they sold out quickly, which indicates many more people wanted one, means that every reseller who bought one of these was depriving a genuine customer of the opportunity to purchase one.

 azreal13 wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:
So hard resin.. being sold through GW.
Could that have to do with the rumour FW will be available on the revamped GW site? Could lines of communication be getting crossed and it's a FW piece?
I can't really think of a better explanation unless GW are removing the distinction between GW actual and FW and throwing everything in together.

So, the Helm's Deep and Minas Tirith walls released for LOTR years and years ago were a harbinger of FW/GW blurring the lines?
Or maybe the weird little resin chapel bit with a fake stained glass thing was?

Why are you getting so easily offended and trying to come off as such a hard ass over someone speculating something?

He's not offended, Kan just leans a bit towards the "intense" end of the spectrum, toy soldiers is srs bznz.

I have seen people with that facial expression at tournaments.

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 happygolucky wrote:
So just had a look at it on the GW website...

The box looks more appealing than the model tbh...

And that servitor looks like an half-arsed job, seriously that "sacred Warhammer" in Ultramarines the movie entrenched in all that wiring had more dimensions than that thing..

Half arsed job and they knew it.

Half assed is the companys new mantra. Recycled everything, $60 books with 2 pages of rules that took less then a few hours to make. Complete abandonment of structure and leaving it up to people to govern themselves (cause that works). And they wonder why so many people are leaving.

They don't wonder nor question... only to get that 13 year old kid to get one box of Space Marines, never to buy anything from there again...

Concerning angry faces:

a reader on Faeit 212 wrote:Just heard that the void shield generators have been over sold, so even if you have confirmation of order you may not be getting one! I'm one of the unlucky ones :-( they took payment but no order for confirmation. I was talking to customer service and they confirmed they had not only charged to many people, but they had indeed over sold them. Some people will be very unhappy soon...

Those are Great News. Now every GW's limited release will be Finecharge! Where they charge your credit card and then fail to deliver the goods!
(Sorry could not resist...)
M.

You have to remember that GW are still only just discovering the internet exists and have not yet figured out how to have a webstore that doesn't sell more of a product than they actually have. These dang new fangled interwebs are very confusing.

 azreal13 wrote:
@Grot

The VSG has rules in Stronghold Assault, IIRC it effectively means all units (models?) that are within 12" of the model get an additional AV12 shield that any incoming fire from outside 12" has to defeat before the shot is resolved against the target. You can take multiples and overlap the bubbles too. Don't hold me to that though, I've only just quickly flipped through a copy.

Feth.... Sounds to me like a little bit of a void grenade target.

 Kroothawk wrote:


Concerning angry faces:

a reader on Faeit 212 wrote:Just heard that the void shield generators have been over sold, so even if you have confirmation of order you may not be getting one! I'm one of the unlucky ones :-( they took payment but no order for confirmation. I was talking to customer service and they confirmed they had not only charged to many people, but they had indeed over sold them. Some people will be very unhappy soon...

Ah, GW at its finest

 Kroothawk wrote:


Concerning angry faces:

a reader on Faeit 212 wrote:Just heard that the void shield generators have been over sold, so even if you have confirmation of order you may not be getting one! I'm one of the unlucky ones :-( they took payment but no order for confirmation. I was talking to customer service and they confirmed they had not only charged to many people, but they had indeed over sold them. Some people will be very unhappy soon...

Given that customer service lines are only open Monday to Friday, "a reader on Faeit212" certainly has an inside track on GW...

Saxon wrote:
Given that customer service lines are only open Monday to Friday, "a reader on Faeit212" certainly has an inside track on GW...

... or lives in Germany or France where customer service is also open on Saturdays.

 Yodhrin wrote:
The fact that, as you say, they sold out quickly, which indicates many more people wanted one, means that every reseller who bought one of these was depriving a genuine customer of the opportunity to purchase one.

No they weren't. Because those resellers are going to, you know, resell them.

All that the people who want one have to do to stop this from continuing to happen is refuse to pay an inflated price from those resellers.


Except that's not going to happen, because for the large part those resellers don't even set that inflated price. This stuff just goes up on eBay and people bid crazy amounts because they wants it.

But that person bidding crazy amounts for it on eBay is still ultimately a 'genuine customer' and they still wind up with the piece at a price that they are apparently willing to pay.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Saxon wrote:
Given that customer service lines are only open Monday to Friday, "a reader on Faeit212" certainly has an inside track on GW...

... or lives in Germany or France where customer service is also open on Saturdays.

More likely a someone making things up on Faeit212... Plus their English isn't good enough to be French or German

So here is a bit of news.

I was at GW early today and they have an employees closet, its often a crack open and never of anything important in there. But today I saw the Void Shield Generator box sitting there.

Considering they went on sale for pre order Friday its a little odd that GW stores would have them already, which means they have had it since Wednesday (when the usually restock shipment comes in for all GWs and Indys in north America).

The Ebay offers begin with this seller setting the price at $500.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Games-Workshop-Void-Shield-Generator-Warhammer-40k-/151260786824?pt=Games_US&hash=item2337d87088

Relapse wrote:
The Ebay offers begin with this seller setting the price at $500.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Games-Workshop-Void-Shield-Generator-Warhammer-40k-/151260786824?pt=Games_US&hash=item2337d87088

 Bull0 wrote:

Relapse wrote:
The Ebay offers begin with this seller setting the price at $500.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Games-Workshop-Void-Shield-Generator-Warhammer-40k-/151260786824?pt=Games_US&hash=item2337d87088

i suspect the stupid high buy it now price is really just to set the bar higher for the offers, also I would snicker a bit if someone buys this, and it turns out this guy isnt actually getting one. Given the rumors of GW over selling I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on buying one from a reseller till they have it in hand