Maybe convert them with gyro-copter parts?

Chikout wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

this new game is very intriguing

I guess this is the game they will be showing at adepticon. Just 8 days to go. Given how much they have shown today it makes you wonder what other secrets they have to reveal.

Mordheim reboot?

Baron Klatz wrote:
Maybe convert them with gyro-copter parts?

Probably better looking at making your own or third party ones for such a widespread project, but I think it'd look pretty cool.

Just maybe not this sort of thing.

(Might to spoiler that, that's a pretty big image on my mobile)

Anyway, I'm definitely expanding to this army when I can. I'd rather keep my armies as medieval as I can but the high-class lords and steampunk cannons are just too good. (Wanderers make a nice balance at least)

First thing is to get that battletome, looks so awesome!

 nicromancer wrote:
I for one welcome our new pirate dwarf overlords.

Pirate Dorfs?

Very old skool

AOS really start to feel like an absurd, anything goes setting. Which is not necessarly a bad thing, and make it a much more interesting setting than it was in the beginning


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I wonder if the more armoured infantry also comes with close combat weapons. Would be a shame if they don't, since they would look very cool with two hande thunder hammer

 streetsamurai wrote:
AOS really start to feel like an absurd, anything goes setting. Which is not necessarly a bad thing, and make it a much more interesting setting than it was in the beginning

Agreed, now it seems much more interesting than sigmarines vs beefed up chaos marauders (and these awful fyreslayers ) fighting ad infinitum that it was in the beginning. I'd really like to see where they will go with the undead and lizardmen. Hopefully, the second edition rulesets will be more to my taste (current ones are putrid imo) as I could get into this.

In case anyone is interested, the names of the units just shown are as follows:

Arkanaut Admiral,
Grundstok Gunhauler,
Arkanaut Frigate,
Arkanaut Ironclad,
Skyriggers,
Grundstok Thunderers,
Aetheric Navigator,
Aether Khemyst,
Endrinmaster,
Brokk Grungsson,
Arkanaut Company

I guess I'm getting a third order faction then!

Adeptus Squachanicus incoming! While I won't be playing them, I love the look. Still 100% dwarf but abandons the whole celtic/norse (minus some runes) that I felt dulled down the dwarf line. Steampunk to 11. Curious who was the driving force behind the design?

Although its sad that they ended WHFB setting. Its kinda cool to see AOS building up its own look and feel rather then half-doing it.

Indeed, I saw that same sentiment in the Spacebattles forum. (Heck, I've seen that sentiment in alot of franchises like with Zelda fans wanting Nintendo to make BotW it's own origin timeline and stop trying to tie together the mess they made with the Hystoria. )

I'm mixed on the issue on how they should've started but it is nice things are progressing with AoS becoming it's own thing.

Agreed, now it seems much more interesting than sigmarines vs beefed up chaos marauders (and these awful fyreslayers  ) fighting ad infinitum that it was in the beginning. 

That "ad infinitum" part is only true if you never read the material.

This is what they've been fighting for all along and the Steamhead are even mentioned in the first book with the Starter set.

I'm genuinely blown away by these. Amazing.

The little floating guys are the derpiest thing that GW has made in quite some time. They're excellent sculpts, so they're certainly not Pumbagore-level bad, but they are so damned silly.

The infantry though? Ace. The characters? Brilliant stuff (though the navigator appears to be unarmed). I love the guy carting around his own smokestack/half-anvil. Great looking armour, amazing looking guns. I love the sky pirate theme as well.

 silent25 wrote:
Curious who was the driving force behind the design?

Warhammer Fantasy's flagging sales and the Chapterhouse Lawsuit.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Its been itching me why the style seems so familiar, I realize now its the similarity to Elder Scrolls Dwemer I'm thinking of (in a good way).

I see the same thing.

Squats + Dwemer = Karakakarkkon™ Overlaeords™

that is not what i was expecting...
definitely some cool design aspects...
love the airship!!!

Baron Klatz wrote:
Indeed, I saw that same sentiment in the Spacebattles forum. (Heck, I've seen that sentiment in alot of franchises like with Zelda fans wanting Nintendo to make BotW it's own origin timeline and stop trying to tie together the mess they made with the Hystoria. )

I'm mixed on the issue on how they should've started but it is nice things are progressing with AoS becoming it's own thing.

Agreed, now it seems much more interesting than sigmarines vs beefed up chaos marauders (and these awful fyreslayers  ) fighting ad infinitum that it was in the beginning. 

That "ad infinitum" part is only true if you never read the material.

This is what they've been fighting for all along and the Steamhead are even mentioned in the first book with the Starter set.

i was actually surprised to find, when i finally got around to reading the starter set tie-in novel, Gates of Azyr, that the hyperbole online didn't jive at all with the book...
there was actually very good reason for the fighting, The Realmgate Wars, as the Stormcast Eternals went out for the first time to open the gates to the other realms...
there was also a very good dynamic between the internal psychology of the Stormcast characters, their relationship between fellow officers, their history with the Chaos champions, and their appearance to the mortals...
i was not expecting things to be as intertwined as they are, or to make as much sense as it did...
i am enjoying the fiction a lot, now that i have actually given it a chance

cheers
jah

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Its been itching me why the style seems so familiar, I realize now its the similarity to Elder Scrolls Dwemer I'm thinking of (in a good way).

I see the same thing.

Squats + Dwemer = Karakakarkkon™ Overlaeords™

Despite the amusing naming habits that have shown up, Kharardron actually takes words/roots from the old Dwarven language in WHFB.

Kharar - A possible adaptation of Khaz, meaning underground chamber/hall; possibly Skyhall/ship
Dron - Thunder

So, possibly Thunder Sky-dwelling? Meaning they are Overlords of the Thundering Skyships?

Reference found here. http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Khazalid

I don't understand, these look remarkably like Squats, a faction GW described as too ridiculous a concept. But it's fine for AoS?
These are nice minis, I don't think they're amazing, definitely an improvement over Stormcast, but I'd consider getting some for 40k when you stop pissfarting about with it.

As the creator of the Dwemer, I heartily approve.

The models are technically well done but I've never been a fan of steampunk. Might change my mind when I see them IRL though, that happens a lot with GW models I find.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Its been itching me why the style seems so familiar, I realize now its the similarity to Elder Scrolls Dwemer I'm thinking of (in a good way).

I see the same thing.

Squats + Dwemer = Karakakarkkon™ Overlaeords™

I'm glad one of the characters is called a "chemyst" because now you can continue making that same joke for at least another 12 months!

Looks like I'm starting an AoS army then. Finally Squats return, different game system but meh! Who cares.

I really don't get what HBMC gets out of this same joke every time. I'm assuming its to try and provoke comment. So well done.


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Joyboozer wrote:
I don't understand, these look remarkably like Squats, a faction GW described as too ridiculous a concept. But it's fine for AoS?
These are nice minis, I don't think they're amazing, definitely an improvement over Stormcast, but I'd consider getting some for 40k when you stop pissfarting about with it.

It's almost like they are completely separate worlds eh!

Love the models to be honest, the infantry especially

 Mymearan wrote:
I'm glad one of the characters is called a "chemyst" because now you can continue making that same joke for at least another 12 months!

You think it's a joke?

Man they look ridiculous. I must have them

Thebiggesthat wrote:
I really don't get what HBMC gets out of this same joke every time. I'm assuming its to try and provoke comment. So well done.

I get a chuckle every time he makes that joke...




I'll just go sit in the corner now.

Now those are some sweet as hell models. When I make my yearly purchase 99% likely one of those airships is making it into this years budget.

You dun ace 10/10 work. First release this year I truly want to paint and adore GW.

Yeah, you may think that it is a joke because you are english speakers. (Or not but In your country it is translated, I don't know)

But when you read a Spanish novel with all the names in english when before they were translated (Because then you can trademark them) its quinda annoying (We call it Spanglish)

To make you an example that you can understand, I will do it in the inverse.

"The Mighty Forjados de la Tormenta face the infinite hordes of the Hermandad de Sangre de Khorne. Those Guerreros del Caos are a bloody sect with the only purpose of destroying the Puertas De los Reinos"

Its like watching Dora The Explorer.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:
I really don't get what HBMC gets out of this same joke every time. I'm assuming its to try and provoke comment. So well done.

I get a chuckle every time he makes that joke...




I'll just go sit in the corner now.

Lol. Same here

I think I'll make my Beastclaw Raiders vs these har sky pilots. I know this sounds crazy but doesn't GW usually do opposing force releases? Is there a chance that May will also be an AoS release? If so it might very well be the other rumored AoS force I keep hearing about. What if the rumored AoS DE (forget name) are no longer underground, but sky raiders! That would be cool.

It makes sense if 8th 40k then drops in June.

 Galas wrote:
Yeah, you may think that it is a joke because you are english speakers. (Or not but In your country it is translated, I don't know)

But when you read a Spanish novel with all the names in english when before they were translated (Because then you can trademark them) its quinda annoying (We call it Spanglish)

To make you an example that you can understand, I will do it in the inverse.

"The Mighty Forjados de la Tormenta face the infinite hordes of the Hermandad de Sangre de Khorne. Those Guerreros del Caos are a bloody sect with the only purpose of destroying the Puertas De los Reinos"

Its like watching Dora The Explorer.

It made them sound sexy and mysterious, I approve!

 Galas wrote:

"The Mighty Forjados de la Tormenta face the infinite hordes of the Hermandad de Sangre de Khorne. Those Guerreros del Caos are a bloody sect with the only purpose of destroying the Puertas De los Reinos"

Its like watching Dora The Explorer.

My girls love Dora... after 5 minutes I want to smash the DVD and put on Totoro.

That being said the derpy AoS names are 10x better in Spanish.

Wow. First GW designs I really like in a long time.

As for metal lighter than air balloons: there's a metal spherical lighter than air craft in The First Men in the Moon by H. G. Wells written in 1901. Cavorite FTW!

Bleh. I'm more interested in that matched play thing. The intro sounded like something from Warhammer Online

So, pretty sweet release. I don't love everything (like the ball-jetpacks) but hot damn, not one, not two, but three airships?

I do hope it's not like the Gyrocopter, where you can either build the bomber, or waste 2/3rds of the kit and make the 'copter.

 Carnikang wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Its been itching me why the style seems so familiar, I realize now its the similarity to Elder Scrolls Dwemer I'm thinking of (in a good way).

I see the same thing.

Squats + Dwemer = Karakakarkkon™ Overlaeords™

Despite the amusing naming habits that have shown up, Kharardron actually takes words/roots from the old Dwarven language in WHFB.

Kharar - A possible adaptation of Khaz, meaning underground chamber/hall; possibly Skyhall/ship
Dron - Thunder

So, possibly Thunder Sky-dwelling? Meaning they are Overlords of the Thundering Skyships?

Reference found here. http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Khazalid

Someone graduated Warhammer 101.

Seriously though, that's cool to know.

i was actually surprised to find, when i finally got around to reading the starter set tie-in novel, Gates of Azyr, that the hyperbole online didn't jive at all with the book... 
there was actually very good reason for the fighting, The Realmgate Wars, as the Stormcast Eternals went out for the first time to open the gates to the other realms... 
there was also a very good dynamic between the internal psychology of the Stormcast characters, their relationship between fellow officers, their history with the Chaos champions, and their appearance to the mortals... 
i was not expecting things to be as intertwined as they are, or to make as much sense as it did... 
i am enjoying the fiction a lot, now that i have actually given it a chance  

cheers 
jah 

Agreed!

There's so much great stuff in the lore that it's saddening that people literally judge a book by the cover and claim the lore is shallow or quote, "Ex-freaking-actly! There is no lore! Just guys doing stuff." :eyeroll:

Oh well, I love it and that's really all that matters in a hobby.

Invul wrote:
As the creator of the Dwemer, I heartily approve.

Care to elaborate?

I don't understand, these look remarkably like Squats, a faction GW described as too ridiculous a concept. But it's fine for AoS? 

They might be heralding a emergence of the Demiurg which are squats deemed just grimdark enough to keep in 40k.

Closer in appearance as flying mercs than the original Squat biker gangs as well.




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 Gamgee wrote:
I think I'll make my Beastclaw Raiders vs these har sky pilots. I know this sounds crazy but doesn't GW usually do opposing force releases? Is there a chance that May will also be an AoS release? If so it might very well be the other rumored AoS force I keep hearing about. What if the rumored AoS DE (forget name) are no longer underground, but sky raiders! That would be cool.

It makes sense if 8th 40k then drops in June.

Opposing force-wise I'd imagine it would be Tzeentch vs new Shadowkin to free Slaanesh and Steamhead get to kick everyone's a$$ for a long time until GW focuses on greenskins for 40k and AoS again and all those Grot and Ironjaws sky pirates start popping up.

Pure speculation, though.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I do hope it's not like the Gyrocopter, where you can either build the bomber, or waste 2/3rds of the kit and make the 'copter.

My guess was it's a 3-way kit, but the hulls are so different either they're 3 kits or there's a ton of waste. Or maybe, just maybe, you can make more than one from a kit.

Nah.

That would be heresy.

*looks at AoS getting all these cool armies*
*looks back at 40k getting nothing but space marines*

I might have to convert to AoS barring the odd 40k release.

I'm torn.

Love the Airships, don't care for the infantry.

I can appreciate the sculpts, but my general Steampunk Aversion is alive and healthy it would seem.

I will be looking forward to people squatify them for 40K

Probably getting a box of the basic troop and a bunch of bolter/plasma pistols

M.

With that in mind, might be worth picking up or otherwise acquiring the Cult Imperialis list in Heresy Book IV.

Abhuman Helots are pretty much Squats....

Sooo many cool things.. so tempted to pick them up and try to mix them in with my existing dwarfs. Just don't like all the covered metal faces/beards, didn't like it about the Irondrakes and don't really here but guess it makes sense it they fly so high up.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
I will be looking forward to people squatify them for 40K

Took the words right out of my mouth.

I like the line infantry well enough, even with the ridiculous assault cannon. Not so keen on the top hat dude and the balloon. They look... forced.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I'm torn.

Love the Airships, don't care for the infantry.

I can appreciate the sculpts, but my general Steampunk Aversion is alive and healthy it would seem.

Maybe a Free People conversion to give it a low fantasy feel by just keeping the gatling and multi-barrel guns or maybe make it into a Ironjaws scrap-fleet?

Just putting suggestions out there.


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Not so keen on the top hat dude and the balloon. They look... forced.

Aww, that's my favorite one. Such a awesome blend of power and nobility and being dapper through it all.

If I can only get one model it's that one.

Baron Klatz wrote:

Invul wrote:
As the creator of the Dwemer, I heartily approve.

Care to elaborate?

Sure! I was the world designer for Bethesda's Elder Scrolls adventure game, Redguard, where the Dwemer first debuted, er, physically. (Previously, the Dwarves had only been mentioned as having disappeared.) The first Steam Centurions, Centurion Spheres, Airships, Dwemeri brass visages, etc., all appeared in that game. After that, I became the art director/world designer for Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, where even more of the Dwemer culture was revealed, primarily in the expanded versions of their ruins. Good times.

Anyhoo, I love these new models, and collecting them will have a small feeling of meeting old friends.

Oh they can definitely be worked with. Reckon I could even try tinkering with FW's Solar Auxilia, see if I can't get a Captain Nemo vibe out of those?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I do hope it's not like the Gyrocopter, where you can either build the bomber, or waste 2/3rds of the kit and make the 'copter.

My guess was it's a 3-way kit, but the hulls are so different either they're 3 kits or there's a ton of waste. Or maybe, just maybe, you can make more than one from a kit.

Nah.

That would be heresy.

I actually think it is three different kits. They are of massively different sizes - the smallest only just fits two crew, the mid size one has two crew, a cabin and a large turret, the largest has three or four crew on the deck and one up in the balloon (this guy appears to have an astrolabe).

Curiously, Top Hat has put me right off....

But the mechanical Parrot? Loving that (bet you didn't spot that! Off you pop, I'll wait....ace, innit! Told ya!)

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
I'm glad one of the characters is called a "chemyst" because now you can continue making that same joke for at least another 12 months!

You think it's a joke?

Yeah the renayming™ is clearly a very serious thing.

I thought it was Khemyst?

Am I the only one that is slightly disturbed by the fact that almost all of them, even the basic infantry, is wielding some kind of ranged weapon, most of the time some kind of heavy weapon that wouldn't look out of place in 40k ?

Sure it can make sense fluff wise for them to use firearms, but there's a reason why historical wargames tend to use very different system starting from the napoleonic era : this is the time when war switched from melee centric to ranged.

Before we had a fantasy ranked wargame with melee as the main aspect and ranged attacks and spells as support (gunlines did exists, but as exceptions) on one side, and a scifi pseudo skirmish game with ranged attacks first and melee as support.

Even ignoring the quality (or lack of) of AoS as a game, I feel that the direction that they are taking with more "unique " (read "copyrightable") factions, more big centerpiece models, and more and more ranged attacks and spells is making it more and more similar to some of the main aspects of 40k.

I was angry when they squatted Epic with among the reasons that it was supposed to be cannibalizing sales from 40k (remember when Apple cancelled the Iphone because it was cannibalizing Ipod sales ? Yeah me meitheir), but here I get the feeling that they are truly doing exactly that, and while it's sometimes perfectly viable to have a new product replace an older one, here we are in the situation where it would leave them with only one main product.

Invul wrote:

Invul wrote:
As the creator of the Dwemer, I heartily approve.

Care to elaborate?

Sure! I was the world designer for Bethesda's Elder Scrolls adventure game, Redguard, where the Dwemer first debuted, er, physically. (Previously, the Dwarves had only been mentioned as having disappeared.) The first Steam Centurions, Centurion Spheres, Airships, Dwemeri brass visages, etc., all appeared in that game. After that, I became the art director/world designer for Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, where even more of the Dwemer culture was revealed, primarily in the expanded versions of their ruins. Good times.

Anyhoo, I love these new models, and collecting them will have a small feeling of meeting old friends.

That's amazing! I only got into Elder scrolls from Skyrim but discovering their lairs and uncovering what happened to them (and being killed by a booby-trapped tree) was an unbelievable experience!

So thank you for making all that possible!

Their appearance in the new Morrowind trailer must have made you happy. It certainly made me grin.

(bet you didn't spot that! Off you pop, I'll wait....ace, innit! Told ya!)

Haha, you got me! I totally missed that.


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jtrowell wrote:
Am I the only one that is slightly disturbed by the fact that almost all of them, even the basic infantry, is wielding some kind of ranged weapon, most of the time some kind of heavy weapon that wouldn't look out of place in 40k ?

Sure it can make sense fluff wise for them to use firearms, but there's a reason why historical wargames tend to use very different system starting from the napoleonic era : this is the time when war switched from melee centric to ranged.

Before we had a fantasy ranked wargame with melee as the main aspect and ranged attacks and spells as support (gunlines did exists, but as exceptions) on one side, and a scifi pseudo skirmish game with ranged attacks first and melee as support.

Even ignoring the quality (or lack of) of AoS as a game, I feel that the direction that they are taking with more "unique " (read "copyrightable") factions, more big centerpiece models, and more and more ranged attacks and spells is making it more and more similar to some of the main aspects of 40k.

I was angry when they squatted Epic with among the reasons that it was supposed to be cannibalizing sales from 40k (remember when Apple cancelled the Iphone because it was cannibalizing Ipod sales ? Yeah me meitheir), but here I get the feeling that they are truly doing exactly that, and while it's sometimes perfectly viable to have a new product replace an older one, here we are in the situation where it would leave them with only one main product.

Eh, Napoleonic warfare had alot of melee too. Infantryman without bayonets were dead meat and even then a surprise lancer charge could wipe them out.

I wouldn't worry anyway, just because they're shoot doesn't mean everyone else has to be too. Other races just need to be faster, stronger or have better magic.

If they're like any elites then it means once they start losing numbers it's gonna be a uphill battle for them and relying on shooters means that they're gonna suffer with anything that can close the distance.

These Dwarves make me sad for what might have been... They're glorious, and I would have bought them in a heartbeat for WHFB, but I'm not interested in a fantasy skirmish game, and if I were, AoS wouldn't be it.

I can't help but wonder what would have happened if GW had chosen to put the same amount of effort they've been putting towards AoS into fixing WHFB instead...


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Curiously, Top Hat has put me right off....

Conversely, I think Tophat Guy is quite possibly the greatest miniature GW has ever made...

Possibly a Jes Goodwin sculpt then? He's all about the hats!

On FB a certain GW art director said something like

"I don't remember drawing any top hats"

(after someone posted the pic)

"Huh, I don't even remember what I draw, I did these 3 years ago while on holiday"

So we got squats back before a plastic thunderhawk gunship. That's a 19 year old bet I just lost.
Seriously one of them has a chainfist!

I will be hunting bitz sites for a mechanical parrot.

I really get the feeling somebody at the studio had been playing a lot of Skyrim when they were given this project to work on. But everything other than the basic infantry is so ridiculously over the top. Can't make up my mind if that is a good thing or not. Nothing appeals to be for my dwarf army for WHFB, but then these models were never meant to.

On the pulse side goblin skypirates must surely be a thing we'll get as a counter force to these.

These are like what Mantics Forge Fathers dreamed they would look like while setting in the Chinese floppy plastic mould factory.

I like these allot, the infantry as a minor weapon swap from being 40k ready, intentional?

Also, why do you guys keep saying 10,000 leagues under the sea? It's 20,000 leagues under the sea. Sorry. Making my brain twitch out!!

Dwarves look interesting. Cool steam punk look, but not for me.

 Gamgee wrote:
I think I'll make my Beastclaw Raiders vs these har sky pilots. I know this sounds crazy but doesn't GW usually do opposing force releases? Is there a chance that May will also be an AoS release? If so it might very well be the other rumored AoS force I keep hearing about. What if the rumored AoS DE (forget name) are no longer underground, but sky raiders! That would be cool.

In the fluff section of the last Warhammer Quest box there are fleets of elf raiders that use flying ships; mainly because on Aqshy all the rivers are lava, so boats would burn. One of the heroes, Fleetmaster Vizrin Kyre, is in command of one of these fleets... so hopefully we get some flying elements for them as well, so that we can forgo the usual battlefields and have airship battles

 Tamereth wrote:


On the pulse side goblin skypirates must surely be a thing we'll get as a counter force to these.

I'm waiting for Blizzard(or whatever conglomerate owns them now) to do a miniature game so they can show gw how a real ramshackle steam technology should be made

Concerning the new release: Errr... don't feel it. I get the 19th century industrial naval theme (20k leagues under water etc.), but it is not to my liking at all. I definitely saw a double pauldron on one of these minies (pauldron over pauldron) - can these be limited to atleast stormcasts please? Also - backpack. I know that the dwarves are supposed to be sealed in some kind of pressurized underwater (or air-aetheric ?!?) suit so they'd need gas bottles on their backs, but still.... it's another miniature with backpack on it. Lastly, why gw insists on making sharp angles on presumably cloth details? I got it already, they can cast sharp detail. Don't put it where it is not needed just to show off. It is like the swirly things they've been putting on minies lately...

This. This is a good thing to wake up to.

They look like they'd fit so well in 40k too I'm guessing a LOT of people will be making Squat armies out of these bad boys.

Me? I just found some stand ins for my tanks and flyers. I for shizzle have to have some Squats in my Stormcast Legion

Damn these look ridiculous, it might finally be time for me to get involved with Aos.

They look much better than I imagined they would !!

 Tamereth wrote:
So we got squats back before a plastic thunderhawk gunship. That's a 19 year old bet I just lost.
Seriously one of them has a chainfist!

I will be hunting bitz sites for a mechanical parrot.

I really get the feeling somebody at the studio had been playing a lot of Skyrim when they were given this project to work on. But everything other than the basic infantry is so ridiculously over the top. Can't make up my mind if that is a good thing or not. Nothing appeals to be for my dwarf army for WHFB, but then these models were never meant to.

On the pulse side goblin skypirates must surely be a thing we'll get as a counter force to these.

May have misread, but there already is a Mechanical Parrot :p

Though I'd be tempted to get the Parrot Gnoblar off the Pirate Ogre Maneater....

WELP

Not only he has a FREAKIN' METAL TOP-HAT, but a Monocle too.

This is absolutely GLORIOUS!!!!

Warhammer Underworlds

OK hypothesis time.

GW stated this is a game for the competitive crowd, recently the rumour engine showed a something that looked like a tile from warhammer quest with a death theme.
On their community page they mentioned that we will see new miniatures for it soon. Shadow war made it clear that it is open for the majority of 40k plastics.

So.... I assume that Warhammer underworlds will be an boardgame/tabletop hybrid like Dust, geared towards balanced competitive games.

Now we have to wait for the results.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
WELP

Not only he has a FREAKIN' METAL TOP-HAT, but a Monocle too.

This is absolutely GLORIOUS!!!!

Welp is used when you've got nothing left to say....but people always say something after it.

Really spins my nipple nuts that does! (it's not you, it's me. One of my many irritating idiosyncracies. Carry on as normal!)

They have melted my mind.. I think I'd have a lot more time accepting them if they were simply Squats [and they do raise the question why GW hasn't does squats as design wise these are pretty much spot on]. I love the big airship .. I think I'd like them a whole lot more if they weren't painted purple, I hate purple..
I might buy them as squats..

So the other new game an AoS version of Mordheim???

But squats.. they made squats....

What tha….

I did not see this one coming, Im generaly more low fantasy inclined for warhammer verse but these are VERY original. Not a faction I would do but they bring in a lot of fresh ideas into AoS. Love it.

Invul wrote:

Baron Klatz wrote:

Invul wrote:
As the creator of the Dwemer, I heartily approve.

Care to elaborate?

Sure! I was the world designer for Bethesda's Elder Scrolls adventure game, Redguard, where the Dwemer first debuted, er, physically. (Previously, the Dwarves had only been mentioned as having disappeared.) The first Steam Centurions, Centurion Spheres, Airships, Dwemeri brass visages, etc., all appeared in that game. After that, I became the art director/world designer for Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, where even more of the Dwemer culture was revealed, primarily in the expanded versions of their ruins. Good times.

Anyhoo, I love these new models, and collecting them will have a small feeling of meeting old friends.

Holy crap. Morrowind is one of the best games of all time. You sir have my eternal thanks. It completely spoiled me so I hated both Oblivion and Skyrim.

I really hope there's a way to field these guys without the ground troops, if only because a fleet of airships supported only by the jetpack dwarves would look fething balls-to-the-wall awesome.

Now I'm kind of regretting starting a Tzeentch Arcanite army, because I just need to get my hands on those airships.

@Mymearan,

^Thank you! I wondered why no one was acknowledging we have a legend in our midst!

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
WELP

Not only he has a FREAKIN' METAL TOP-HAT, but a Monocle too.

This is absolutely GLORIOUS!!!!

So true! I absolutely love everything about him. Pure power and dapper nobility that tells you he's in charge.

Definite buy.

I'm waiting for Blizzard(or whatever conglomerate owns them now) to do a miniature game so they can show gw how a real ramshackle steam technology should be made  

I'm not 100% sure but I believe the Grots use flying leviathans as their ships. It's the Ironjaws who slapped things together.

Just fyi.

Side note really, but in the Reveal video for the Kharadron Overlords, the first few seconds with the AoS Logo has them battling GIANT TENTACLES coming from the mist below and wrapping themselves around ships.

Maybe we'll see C'thulu elves soon too?

Could shadowspire be a sort of competitive play AoS take on Mordhiem?

Heh, and I like the infantry squad, love the bird but not the guns on the Devastators, don't onow if I like the servo armour and ballons and HATE the chainsword (and in the vid it looks like some haw a bolt pistol that doesn't even pretend to be a crossbow like the Sigmarines do).

I dunno, the diver stuff looks great, unsure about the ballons, but outside of those weird weapons that could have all been in the steampowered iron navy of Old World dwarves. Still no reason to blow the freaking world up for this release, either.

Shadowspire has a great ring to it, I guess there's no info at all about it?

 Carnikang wrote:
Side note really, but in the Reveal video for the Kharardron Overlords, the first few seconds with the AoS Logo has them battling GIANT TENTACLES coming from the mist below and wrapping themselves around ships.

Maybe we'll see C'thulu elves soon too?

Oh man, you are absolutely right



MAKE IT HAPPEN, GW! Cthulhu Elves would officially be the death of my wallet!

 notprop wrote:
These are like what Mantics Forge Fathers dreamed they would look like while setting in the Chinese floppy plastic mould factory.

I like these allot, the infantry as a minor weapon swap from being 40k ready, intentional?

Sadly I have to agree.

M.

Sadly because I have a bunch of forgefathes on the way and they don't look as cool.

Lord Kragon actually spotted those tentacles earlier!

I wonder if this is all a theme with Tzeentch and Shadowkin making the Lovecraft vibes while Steamhead and Vanguard are the classic interlopers with one being Victorian deep-sea themed and the other scouts/trackers?

Just seen a small pic on their FB page of a whole force on the tabletop in blue and gold - looks amazing.

...Lovecraft Elves versus Steampunk Dwarves... I could not resist spending money. Do it, GW.

Image in Question-

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I do hope it's not like the Gyrocopter, where you can either build the bomber, or waste 2/3rds of the kit and make the 'copter.

My guess was it's a 3-way kit, but the hulls are so different either they're 3 kits or there's a ton of waste. Or maybe, just maybe, you can make more than one from a kit.

Nah.

That would be heresy.

I'm not seeing any shared parts besides minor things like propellers and bombs.
My guess is 3 different kits, at $35-450 for the little one, $55-70 for the medium one, and $74-110 for the big one.

The medium one looks to be slightly larger than the Dark Eldar Raider, with big balloons, while the Ironclad could give hope for a cool Vect and Dais of Destruction when DE are remembered.

If I started Sigmar, it would be with these guys.

...ok now when (not if, when) I start making an army of these guys I need to make their bases look like clouds. That is too awesome.

 insaniak wrote:
These Dwarves make me sad for what might have been... They're glorious, and I would have bought them in a heartbeat for WHFB, but I'm not interested in a fantasy skirmish game, and if I were, AoS wouldn't be it.

I can't help but wonder what would have happened if GW had chosen to put the same amount of effort they've been putting towards AoS into fixing WHFB instead...

Then why are you here?

Also, I hate how some people define something as a "skirmish game" based on it's unit geometry. That's really not what anyone interested in a skirmish game is looking for.
Off topic though, so here's a thread for that: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/720770.page#9254133

From the group shot, it looks like the regular infantry might have an option for rifles. Check the ones on the far left corner of the picture.

Even not playing skydwarfs as an army the toys have so much conversion potential. Also a drastic breakaway from the underground theme seemingly so immersed in fantasy dwarfs

This is AoS news and rumours. No one cares you have been in the hobby long enough to know what squats are, and certainly don't care what you are using them in 40k for. You have your own forum

 endtransmission wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I think I'll make my Beastclaw Raiders vs these har sky pilots. I know this sounds crazy but doesn't GW usually do opposing force releases? Is there a chance that May will also be an AoS release? If so it might very well be the other rumored AoS force I keep hearing about. What if the rumored AoS DE (forget name) are no longer underground, but sky raiders! That would be cool.

In the fluff section of the last Warhammer Quest box there are fleets of elf raiders that use flying ships; mainly because on Aqshy all the rivers are lava, so boats would burn. One of the heroes, Fleetmaster Vizrin Kyre, is in command of one of these fleets... so hopefully we get some flying elements for them as well, so that we can forgo the usual battlefields and have airship battles

Flying elf ships you say...

Invul wrote:
As the creator of the Dwemer, I heartily approve.

What does that refer to?

Pretty cool sculpts!

 Verviedi wrote:
...Lovecraft Elves versus Steampunk Dwarves... I could not resist spending money. Do it, GW.

Image in Question-

Cheers! I think they look like a cracking set of models- the fleet of airships is fantastic and its quite a fun departure for dwarfs making them airborne as opposed to underground. The high tech element in a fantasy setting is unsettling, but I haven't gotten in to AoS just yet and i suppose set against the Stormcast they fit in, plus I reckon a grimier paint sheme would work a treat. I think now I'm over my initial shock I'm totally sold!

 DarkBlack wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
These Dwarves make me sad for what might have been... They're glorious, and I would have bought them in a heartbeat for WHFB, but I'm not interested in a fantasy skirmish game, and if I were, AoS wouldn't be it.

I can't help but wonder what would have happened if GW had chosen to put the same amount of effort they've been putting towards AoS into fixing WHFB instead...

Then why are you here?

Because I like looking at pretty models?

Whatever I may think of the game itself, the model releases so far for AoS have been largely outstanding.

 endtransmission wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I think I'll make my Beastclaw Raiders vs these har sky pilots. I know this sounds crazy but doesn't GW usually do opposing force releases? Is there a chance that May will also be an AoS release? If so it might very well be the other rumored AoS force I keep hearing about. What if the rumored AoS DE (forget name) are no longer underground, but sky raiders! That would be cool.

In the fluff section of the last Warhammer Quest box there are fleets of elf raiders that use flying ships; mainly because on Aqshy all the rivers are lava, so boats would burn. One of the heroes, Fleetmaster Vizrin Kyre, is in command of one of these fleets... so hopefully we get some flying elements for them as well, so that we can forgo the usual battlefields and have airship battles

There's actually Grot Sky Pirates as well mentioned in the Beastclaw book and in about two others so I'm actually looking forward to this as well.

 RiTides wrote:

Invul wrote:
As the creator of the Dwemer, I heartily approve.

What does that refer to?

Pretty cool sculpts!

It refers to a fantasy race in a PC game series (The Elder scrolls) known to be a subspecies of elves and is famous for wearing heavy, bulky armour (presumably bronze or copper judging by the colour, I can't remember if there were any explanation in the in game books). The dwemer also utilize steam machinery and golems, wear their beards in braids, are also known as "dwarves" in game and have a similar bronze age face aesthetics (Sumer, Babylon, Mycenae) iirc

This is pretty incredible, only one I don't like is the top hat guy but there's probably different head choices.

I didn't like the personal balloons to start with but in the video you can see rudders on the back of the balloons which makes them far cooler for some reason.

The rudders did swing me as well! Just makes it all look that much more practical.

Still only really like the ships though.

What is the purple? This amazing substance can be made into pants, balloons, weapon housing and a vehicle chassis.

Joyboozer wrote:
What is the purple? This amazing substance can be made into pants, balloons, weapon housing and a vehicle chassis.

Hum, I'm wearing a blue shirt, and my car is blue ... so... wat?

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
What is the purple? This amazing substance can be made into pants, balloons, weapon housing and a vehicle chassis.

Hum, I'm wearing a blue shirt, and my car is blue ... so... wat?

That you're a filthy plebian for not using purple, you shoddy manling.

Sky pirate dwarves? Very cool!

Joyboozer wrote:
What is the purple? This amazing substance can be made into pants, balloons, weapon housing and a vehicle chassis.

I may be wrong but I think it's called "paint"

Also this guy is probably my favourite model to ever come out of Games Workshop.

https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-ArkanautAdmiral-Content.jpg

HAHA I've just noticed if you right click on the images and click copy image address you can see the unit names in the URL.

This guy is the 'Arkanaut Admiral', simple incredible model.

Joyboozer wrote:
What is the purple? This amazing substance can be made into pants, balloons, weapon housing and a vehicle chassis.

Did the need to troll AoS just hit a new high/low?

TonyL707 wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
What is the purple? This amazing substance can be made into pants, balloons, weapon housing and a vehicle chassis.

Did the need to troll AoS just hit a new high/low?

Well excuse me, how dare I enjoy this new release.

Joyboozer wrote:

TonyL707 wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
What is the purple? This amazing substance can be made into pants, balloons, weapon housing and a vehicle chassis.

Did the need to troll AoS just hit a new high/low?

Well excuse me, how dare I enjoy this new release.

That was you enjoying it?

Sorry, it did come across as someone finding the smallest thing to moan about, enjoy away

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 Carnikang wrote:
Side note really, but in the Reveal video for the Kharardron Overlords, the first few seconds with the AoS Logo has them battling GIANT TENTACLES coming from the mist below and wrapping themselves around ships.

Maybe we'll see C'thulu elves soon too?

Oh man, you are absolutely right

Spoiler:

MAKE IT HAPPEN, GW! Cthulhu Elves would officially be the death of my wallet!

Very interested in cthulu elves as well, though it does sound really similar to legion of everblight from PP.

Which isn't really a complaint since with GW we could avoid some of the... unfortunate looking sculpts of that particular range.

Not being familiar with Legion of Everblight, just Googled them....




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'Ere....see those big Airships?

They've got external doors on the side.

First ever Fantasy unit transports?

So did I. I don't really see an issue, other than the stupid quantity of cheesecake. Fix that and it's fine.

^^ They have some nice sculpts too (epic thagrosh, blackfrost shard, most modern sculpts tbh).

Then there's abby1 and the old swordsmen... yeah.

Anyway, anyone else feel a lot less annoyed by the funny names now that the new releases are looking a bit less generic?

I think last year before Summer Sad Panda (sorry for misquote) mentioned that GW is attempting to do more deliberate crossovers [of AoS and 40k useable miniatures].

I would LOVE to see someone make up Squat rules for 40k with this stuff.

Easily done. Cult Imperialis from Heresy, and take the 'Survivors of Long Night' and 'Abhuman Helots' traits.

You're then 90% of the way there.

Interesting aesthetic. I must admit I sort of miss the helicopter blades but this new direction is appealing in its own way.

Loving these.. AoS is getting more tempting all the time... have a weird idea of using the largest airship to make a Dwarf equivalent of the Lightning Collectors vessel and crew from Stardust.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Loving these.. AoS is getting more tempting all the time... have a weird idea of using the largest airship to make a Dwarf equivalent of the Lightning Collectors vessel and crew from Stardust.

Only if you put the captain in a dress.
I was thinking something similar, but turning parts of the board into much larger flying vessels and carrying out airborne boarding actions as chunks of the table try to manoeuvre around each other

Was going to have two versions of the captain

That big pic with the airship fleet and presumed cthulu elves is magnificent

Okay, I have to admit it. Even as one of AoS biggest haters, I actually really love those models.

However, I don't like how they seem to be continuing the trend of turning Warhammer into Warcraft.

The more I see the more excited I am. I'm down day one for the book and then likely there goes a couple hundred bucks fast as I build a sweet army of awesome airborne dwarves.

Not sure I love the medium blimp. Unless it has cool rules I see on the small and large blimps in my future

Judging by the fleet photo, the heroes look to be quite large in comparison to the line troops.

I'm afraid my thermopriests and thermowarrior dwarfs of Tir-na-bor are going to feel rather... dwarfed.

I've wanted a cool airship model ever since I played the first Final Fantasy game way back in elementary school. Childhood dream soon to be reached?

I also have a feeling airship battles are soon going to be a common sight, if for no other reason than having a bunch of flying ships blasting the battlefield to smithereens is pretty cool.

Not really a huge fan of steampunk in general, but this stuff looks awesome! Hopefully someone in my meta will pick these guys up so I can see them on the tabletop.

At 0:42 in the video there's a skyrigger with a massive grappling hook, wonder what rules it will have. Really can't wait to see the rules, such an exciting release.

If there's not a single captain-ahab/moby dick reference I'll be upset.

Do we have names for these units? Also it appears the 3 airships are different kits, are any able to confirm that or not?

 EnTyme wrote:
Not really a huge fan of steampunk in general, but this stuff looks awesome! Hopefully someone in my meta will pick these guys up so I can see them on the tabletop.

I can't say I'm a massive fan. The models are decent enough, but they appear more akin to being squats (just need to add some bikers).

There's nothing here that really distinguishes the models from 40k and they would fit either game with equal abandon in some ways (though this may be a strategic decision from GW).

Also what is it with the use of yellow metallic paint on everything all of a sudden?

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Do we have names for these units? Also it appears the 3 airships are different kits, are any able to confirm that or not?

From grand alliance community if you examine the image link you can see their name.

Skyrigger (Balloon) Hero: Brokk Grungsson

Balloon Dwarves: Skyriggers

10 man infantry unit: Arkanaut Company

5 man heavy unit: Grundstok Thunderers

Single-handed Hammer hero: Arkanaut Admiral

Guy with all the weathervane stuff: Aetheric Navigator

Guy with the chemcail set and hand-held sprayer: Aether Khemyst

Two-handed hammer hero: Endrinmaster

Grundstok Gunhauler - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-GrundstokGunhauler-Content-320x320.jpg
Arkanaut Frigate - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-ArkanautFrigate-Content-320x320.jpg
Arkanaut Ironclad - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-ArkanautIronclad-Content-320x320.jpg
Brokk Grungsson - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-BrokkGrungsson-Content-320x320.jpg
Skyriggers - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-Skyriggers-Content-320x320.jpg
Arkanaut Company - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-ArkanautCompany-Content-320x320.jpg
Grundstok Thunderers - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-GrundstokThunderers-Content-320x320.jpg
Arkanaut Admiral - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-ArkanautAdmiral-Content-320x320.jpg
Aetheric Navigator - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-AethericNavigator-Content-320x320.jpg
Aether Khemyst - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-AetherKhemyst-Content-320x320.jpg
Endrin master - https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GAMA-KO-Endrinmaster-Content-320x320.jpg

Edit: someone in before me I really like the names, 'Arkanaut' sounds awesome.

 RoboDragon wrote:
Grundstok Gunhauler -

Spoiler:

Arkanaut Frigate -

Spoiler:

Arkanaut Ironclad -

Spoiler:

Brokk Grungsson -

Spoiler:

Skyriggers -

Spoiler:

Arkanaut Company -

Spoiler:

Grundstok Thunderers -

Spoiler:

Arkanaut Admiral -

Spoiler:

Aetheric Navigator -

Spoiler:

Aether Khemyst -

Spoiler:

Endrin master -

Spoiler:

Added in the image and spoiler tags to this; click "spoiler" to see what each particular item is.

Or just mouseover them on the Warhammer Community site. Either way, it's nice to have a name to go with the pictures.

Looks much tidier, thanks

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Do we have names for these units? Also it appears the 3 airships are different kits, are any able to confirm that or not?

It's pretty clear that there is one kit that makes either the big ship or one of each of the small.ones. Look how the hull and sphere pieces 'add up'.

I like them, but I also don't but I can't put my finger on why.

I think maybe it is because they feel too steampunk to me...?

Lord Kragan wrote:
If there's not a single captain-ahab/moby dick reference I'll be upset.

...I want a white skywhale now.

 ProtoClone wrote:
I like them, but I also don't but I can't put my finger on why.

I think maybe it is because they feel too steampunk to me...?

Too steampunk? Impossible!

Those would make some wonderful Thunder Hammers for Iron Hands/Fists players.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Do we have names for these units? Also it appears the 3 airships are different kits, are any able to confirm that or not?

It's pretty clear that there is one kit that makes either the big ship or one of each of the small.ones. Look how the hull and sphere pieces 'add up'.

If you are incapable of inferring size from pictures and don't bother with the difference in shapes I guess

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Do we have names for these units? Also it appears the 3 airships are different kits, are any able to confirm that or not?

It's pretty clear that there is one kit that makes either the big ship or one of each of the small.ones. Look how the hull and sphere pieces 'add up'.

If you are incapable of inferring size from pictures and don't bother with the difference in shapes I guess

I was basing my assumption off different base sizes, if they are all the same then you're right, no chance. I should have worded things differently.

Those are some odd=-looking Khador units...

BoLS has an article with some nice pics of the minis and the Battletome.

Here's a thought regarding the sudden stylistic shift in AoS.

To begin this ramble, we need to right back to the very origin of Warhammer.

Rather than a cohesive world of their own, the designers instead created a generic rules set, which would cater to any and all fantasy model collections. At that time, GW and Citadel were two entirely separate companies.

Of course, over the years, the Old World very much became it's own thing - and an iconic thing at that. It's inhabitants were still broadly generic, but it's story was unique(ish).

Fast forward to it's eventual demise. Stylistically, the mould was long since set. Very limited Steampunk. No 'Good' Gods. And given it's origins, that meant it no longer kept up with emerging trends in Fantasy, such as Steampunk.

AoS of course has a very different setting. Rather than a single world, it has 8 planes of existence. Most of the old armies and their archetypes are still there, albeit with shiny, new, trademarkable names. But as Stormcast and these guys have shown, they can now include very different forces, and cater to pretty much any Fantasy archetype - high, low, middle or insanity.

So in a way, AoS has brought Fantasy back to it's roots - it's now a single system catering to any and all Fantasy tropes (if not manufacturers for the most part)

Do we think they will have a "Start Collecting" box of the space dorfs?

*sigh* Goddamn GW, these look great. Well, guess I'm getting into AoS!

Probably? Who knows! Fyreslayers haven't got one (at least, not yet)

@Shinros, RoboDragon and NinthMusketeer

I appreciate the replies.

Not too bad on the names, nothing too punny. The ship making one or two models isn't half bad either.

Now I await the start collecting box.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Judging by the fleet photo, the heroes look to be quite large in comparison to the line troops.

I'm afraid my thermopriests and thermowarrior dwarfs of Tir-na-bor are going to feel rather... dwarfed.

I've wanted a cool airship model ever since I played the first Final Fantasy game way back in elementary school. Childhood dream soon to be reached?

I also have a feeling airship battles are soon going to be a common sight, if for no other reason than having a bunch of flying ships blasting the battlefield to smithereens is pretty cool.

Inspired by these new pics I went down a rabbit hole of staring at photos of Confrontation minis... man they really caught lightning in a bottle with that combination of designers and sculptors, didn't they?

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Do we have names for these units? Also it appears the 3 airships are different kits, are any able to confirm that or not?

It's pretty clear that there is one kit that makes either the big ship or one of each of the small.ones. Look how the hull and sphere pieces 'add up'.

I see almost no common parts between the three ships. None of the balloon spheres match. They may be three different kits or the small ones may be one kit.

Except that AoS does less and less the generic Fantasy Tropes that Warhammer was based upon, normal humans and other mortals have been switched to the background with more and more big creatures and machines (or other over the top models) taking the front line.

Is there even *one* model of a simple mortal human released by GW since AoS was launched ?

I see something like a dwarf with a handheld minigun in the simple basic infantry (Arkanaut Company) to say nothing of the dwarves holding what looks like portable organ gun and canons (the things that used to be war engines with a separate crew), and I wonder what place a normal human with a spear or sword can have in the same game or even the same universe except as fodder.

There is a place for this kind of setting, but it is certainly no longer comparable to the original Warhammer Fantasy world.

It's not unlike if you you took the original Old World and instead of destroying it they set it a few century in its future with something equivalent to modern technology. This world might be something very interesing, but it certainly woudln't fit the same niche as it used to, for the same reason that a modern warfare wargame won't look anything like a wargame set in the antiquity or mediieval France.

Playing a game about the French army defending Verdun during WW1 is certainly not the same as another game about playing french knights at Agincourt, even if one french "poilu" in the trenches happens to be the great-great ... -grandson of a former knight that fought the english.

You see the steampunk as an addition to the generic tropes, what i see is their replacement with *less* generic ones.

There was a way to introduce some steampunk elements before (the gyrocopter as an exemple), but here you don't see any trace of the old dwarf style, even the normal infantry are armed with more ranged firepower than whole Fantasy armies used to carry.

I don't say that it isn't justified by the fluff, just that when you reach a certain point in weapon advances (be they from tech, magic or god infused power), a whole style of fighting simply become obsolete.

I wouldn't except to see a wargame putting spearmen against modern tanks and infantry, and with the prevalence of big monsters, warriors enhanced by their gods (both stormcasts and chaos warriors) and now high dwarven steam-magiteck, I feel that AoS is now reaching the point to being in a comparable situation.

I dunno, Ironjawz are just bigger Orks with pointier and heavier choppas and bashas, and I feel they can have a few "words" with those dwarves.

Actually, it begs the question: how the heck can I fight those ships if I play Ironjawz? My 2 ranged units are the Shaman and the Cabbage

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
I dunno, Ironjawz are just bigger Orks with pointier and heavier choppas and bashas, and I feel they can have a few "words" with said those dwarves.

Actually, it begs the question: how the heck can I fight those ships if I play Ironjawz? My 2 ranged units are the Shaman and the Cabbage

If the Mawkrusha is so belligerent that it can defy gravity then your Ironjawz just need to become even moreso!

jreilly89 wrote:*sigh* Goddamn GW, these look great. Well, guess I'm getting into AoS!

ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
I dunno, Ironjawz are just bigger Orks with pointier and heavier choppas and bashas, and I feel they can have a few "words" with said those dwarves.

Actually, it begs the question: how the heck can I fight those ships if I play Ironjawz? My 2 ranged units are the Shaman and the Cabbage

If the Mawkrusha is so belligerent that it can defy gravity then your Ironjawz just need to become even moreso!

The Mawkrusha does not fly, it jumps so hard it pushes the ground down

I still love the old Gotrek and Felix dwarves more, but these are awesome sculpts. Whatever I can incorporate into my WHFB head canon I will, but the rest will have to fit into 40k as Squats, Demiurg or some long forgotten veterans of the C'Tan-Old Ones Wars.

The balloons look like they could be the equivalent of Culture Minds that are allowing their pet "overlords" to think they are fighting battles.

 Galas wrote:
Yeah, you may think that it is a joke because you are english speakers. (Or not but In your country it is translated, I don't know)

But when you read a Spanish novel with all the names in english when before they were translated (Because then you can trademark them) its quinda annoying (We call it Spanglish)

To make you an example that you can understand, I will do it in the inverse.

"The Mighty Forjados de la Tormenta face the infinite hordes of the Hermandad de Sangre de Khorne. Those Guerreros del Caos are a bloody sect with the only purpose of destroying the Puertas De los Reinos"

Its like watching Dora The Explorer.

Not only is that kind of language melding awesome, but it's a staple of huge swathes of science fiction.

And English continues to subsume all rivals...

 EnTyme wrote:

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
I dunno, Ironjawz are just bigger Orks with pointier and heavier choppas and bashas, and I feel they can have a few "words" with said those dwarves.

Actually, it begs the question: how the heck can I fight those ships if I play Ironjawz? My 2 ranged units are the Shaman and the Cabbage

If the Mawkrusha is so belligerent that it can defy gravity then your Ironjawz just need to become even moreso!

The Mawkrusha does not fly, it jumps so hard it pushes the ground down

So you're saying the Mawkrusha is the 'Chuck Norris' of the Mortal Realms

 jreilly89 wrote:
*sigh* Goddamn GW, these look great. Well, guess I'm getting into AoS!

Joiiiiiinnnn ussssss!!!

Look forward to seeing what you do with these if you pick em up .

 Ghaz wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
I dunno, Ironjawz are just bigger Orks with pointier and heavier choppas and bashas, and I feel they can have a few "words" with said those dwarves.

Actually, it begs the question: how the heck can I fight those ships if I play Ironjawz? My 2 ranged units are the Shaman and the Cabbage

If the Mawkrusha is so belligerent that it can defy gravity then your Ironjawz just need to become even moreso!

The Mawkrusha does not fly, it jumps so hard it pushes the ground down

So you're saying the Mawkrusha is the 'Chuck Norris' of the Mortal Realms

No, Chuck Norris is the Maw-Krusha of Earth.

Oh damn what a rollercoaster of emotions that was. Saw the artwork and eyes glistened with joy. However first pics I saw were small ones on my phone someone here posted and wasn't the full roster. Not that I didn't like the smaller airships but was disappointed as it looked nothing like the artwork.

The gunners are sweet and my only negative about the balloon guys is I just don't know how they work. Like are they jetpacks or something? Just hard to see them as practical.

Then I went onto the site and saw that absolute B-E-Autiful beast of a gunship. It just oooooozes swag and personality. I mean look at it again.How badass is it. It's not a case of wanting it, it's case of neeeeeding it. Stunning, all my yes!

So hyped for this army, very unique and hope we see some nice air battles. Please let us see the Skyroads of Chamon.

I also really wanna see someone convert the ships for a Grot Pirate army. Only downside I don't know what you could proxy it as. Destruction don't have any vehicles atm.

Top game GW. Top game.

Because BoLS links.

 endtransmission wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I think I'll make my Beastclaw Raiders vs these har sky pilots. I know this sounds crazy but doesn't GW usually do opposing force releases? Is there a chance that May will also be an AoS release? If so it might very well be the other rumored AoS force I keep hearing about. What if the rumored AoS DE (forget name) are no longer underground, but sky raiders! That would be cool.

In the fluff section of the last Warhammer Quest box there are fleets of elf raiders that use flying ships; mainly because on Aqshy all the rivers are lava, so boats would burn. One of the heroes, Fleetmaster Vizrin Kyre, is in command of one of these fleets... so hopefully we get some flying elements for them as well, so that we can forgo the usual battlefields and have airship battles

Reply to a few different posts here.
The tophat gave my Columbia vibes from Bioshock Infinite.

Age of Sigmar should have just been sky pirates battles for all the factions. Would have been on board from day one. As for that cool elf fleets that would be an excellent battle.

I'm slowly converting to Age of Sigmar. I think... I might have to cancel all my planned 40k purchases this year for these guys. I want my cool sky overlords.

We have seen their small frigate class of ship. I hope we someday see cutters, corvettes, cruisers, heavy cruisers, and battleship classes. Heck even two versions of a carrier. A small one for boarding with the jet balloon guys and one for carrying the smaller vessels. Forgeworld... we know you like making big airplanes. Get on it lol.

The Tophat dwarf is the single best GW model of all time. It even surpasses all the Tau models. Yes. I just said that. That is how much I love these. Unless those are existing models just shoehorned in there. I am an AoS newbie after all.

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Verveidei. Your a genius for spotting those. So lovecraft sky raiders are all but confirmed next. I don't know what faction to buy! Why are you forcing me to do this GW. :( WHYY!!!! I still think I'll go with top hat guy since it's so British.

I showed my dwarf playing friend from WHFB. He started crying. I told him these were dwarves. He said if they wanted 40k dwarves, they should have put them into 40k.

 Gamgee wrote:


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Verveidei. Your a genius for spotting those. So lovecraft sky raiders are all but confirmed next. I don't know what faction to buy! Why are you forcing me to do this GW. :( WHYY!!!! I still think I'll go with top hat guy since it's so British.

Yeah...no.

It's Tzeentch Arcanite stuff. The foreground is Screamers and the background, blacked/silhouetted stuff are Skyfires(Tzaangors on discs with bows).


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 timetowaste85 wrote:
I showed my dwarf playing friend from WHFB. He started crying. I told him these were dwarves. He said if they wanted 40k dwarves, they should have put them into 40k.

Funny, because my dwarf playing friend is hyped as hell.

Ah that would have been a cool teaser on their part. I got excited for a second. Then again I am happy with this army release. Look how huge it is. Way more options that Beastclaw Raiders.

 Gamgee wrote:
Ah that would have been a cool teaser on their part. I got excited for a second. Then again I am happy with this army release. Look how huge it is. Way more options that Beastclaw Raiders.

It's a whole new army.

Beastclaw Raiders wasn't.

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The forum double posted.

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Or... decides to eat my other post? Okay...

99% of the time, double posts fix themselves. Just leave them alone, don't edit.

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that. Anyways so hype for this army. I suspect we'll see another AoS big release month in May since June is 8th ed. No point releasing 40k stuff right now. Too close to 8th.

 Gamgee wrote:
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that. Anyways so hype for this army. I suspect we'll see another AoS big release month in May since June is 8th ed. No point releasing 40k stuff right now. Too close to 8th.

Dakka gets glitchy when threads get much over a hundred pages. That's why they usually close them and open a new one. I'm surprised this one hasn't been closed in favor of a new one yet.

TonyL707 wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:

TonyL707 wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
What is the purple? This amazing substance can be made into pants, balloons, weapon housing and a vehicle chassis.

Did the need to troll AoS just hit a new high/low?

Well excuse me, how dare I enjoy this new release.

That was you enjoying it?

Sorry, it did come across as someone finding the smallest thing to moan about, enjoy away

It was only if you're ultra defensive wjhen it comes to AOS, for some weird reasons

So not to take away from the talk about the Skypirate Dwarves, which I think are rad, but whats this I've seen about Lovecraft Elves? Something from a book or just a random rumor?

 streetsamurai wrote:

TonyL707 wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:

TonyL707 wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
What is the purple? This amazing substance can be made into pants, balloons, weapon housing and a vehicle chassis.

Did the need to troll AoS just hit a new high/low?

Well excuse me, how dare I enjoy this new release.

That was you enjoying it?

Sorry, it did come across as someone finding the smallest thing to moan about, enjoy away

It was only if you're ultra defensive wjhen it comes to AOS, for some weird reasons

TBH it kind of came across like a nitpick. *shrugs* Whateves, now c'mon GW entertain us!

I love that the big balloon has a retractable plank. Points for whoever models a grot being made to walk the plank

 Mymearan wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Judging by the fleet photo, the heroes look to be quite large in comparison to the line troops.

I'm afraid my thermopriests and thermowarrior dwarfs of Tir-na-bor are going to feel rather... dwarfed.

I've wanted a cool airship model ever since I played the first Final Fantasy game way back in elementary school. Childhood dream soon to be reached?

I also have a feeling airship battles are soon going to be a common sight, if for no other reason than having a bunch of flying ships blasting the battlefield to smithereens is pretty cool.

Inspired by these new pics I went down a rabbit hole of staring at photos of Confrontation minis... man they really caught lightning in a bottle with that combination of designers and sculptors, didn't they?

They did - and GW is coming 'close' with these - and I love them - all of them!!!

Not sure I want to start AoS, but this is REALLY tempting now.

(But it does make me wish that they'd just bring Squats back in 40K! Or compromise, and get them into 30K!)

BrotherGecko wrote:Squats are back baby!!

jtrowell wrote:Except that AoS does less and less the generic Fantasy Tropes that Warhammer was based upon, normal humans and other mortals have been switched to the background with more and more big creatures and machines (or other over the top models) taking the front line.

Generic fantasy tropes can't be protected by aggressive lawyers. So much of the Old World was derivative and unprotectable from a copyright prospective. As well, GW knows their target audience likes thing over the top.

Is there even *one* model of a simple mortal human released by GW since AoS was launched ?

I don't believe so no.

I see something like a dwarf with a handheld minigun in the simple basic infantry (Arkanaut Company) to say nothing of the dwarves holding what looks like portable organ gun and canons (the things that used to be war engines with a separate crew), and I wonder what place a normal human with a spear or sword can have in the same game or even the same universe except as fodder.

The whole point of GW's rules is to drive up the size of the conflict to justify huge monster and vehicle kits and to sell huge units. While we may have theories about the real reason WHFB failed, I think GW probably sees it as a sign that the time for selling large numbers of basic troops with a stick and a shield is over. That approach failed them. Now they want to sell large numbers of over the top crazy things and giant monsters and robots to loom over them.

I do historica minis and I do them in an odd scale. 54mm. In that scale you can make everything out from across the hall at a convention. People see the tall cavalry models and the cannons and come check it out. GW's large kits accomplish the same sort of wow factor but on an even bigger level. Not only are they bigger, they're usually "extreme" (or is that " Xtreme!!! "? )

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
So not to take away from the talk about the Skypirate Dwarves, which I think are rad, but whats this I've seen about Lovecraft Elves? Something from a book or just a random rumor?

It's a random BoLS/Naftka thing, coupled with Verviedi not being able to recognize existing Tzeentch stuff.

The Skyfires(Tzaangors on Discs of Tzeentch with bows) and Screamers made him think it was "Lovecraftian Elves".

Also, it's people trying to make the Shadowkin into something they want it seems.

 frozenwastes wrote:

Is there even *one* model of a simple mortal human released by GW since AoS was launched ?

I don't believe so no.

Well, there is one 100% human, but the dude is beefy as hell

 Kanluwen wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
So not to take away from the talk about the Skypirate Dwarves, which I think are rad, but whats this I've seen about Lovecraft Elves? Something from a book or just a random rumor?

It's a random BoLS/Naftka thing, coupled with Verviedi not being able to recognize existing Tzeentch stuff.

The Skyfires(Tzaangors on Discs of Tzeentch with bows) and Screamers made him think it was "Lovecraftian Elves".

Also, it's people trying to make the Shadowkin into something they want it seems.

Unfortunate, cause that sounded like a neat idea (and surefire way for my friend and I to get his wife into the game). I'm not sure how screamers can be so easily misidentified, but it happens. Oh well.


On to the Dwarves, I like how one of the Squad Leaders looks like he has an Anchor that is also an Ax, and the Ax Wrenches are cool too.

There was the warrior priest from Silver Tower.

It's really more like how Mad Grot described it, though. AoS is going for multiple genres rather than just a generic fantasy one. The city of secrets book is a good example of low and high fantasy is mixed together.

Ironically I believe the high elves are gonna be the "low fantasy" faction of AoS with humans filing in for high, low and crazy.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
So not to take away from the talk about the Skypirate Dwarves, which I think are rad, but whats this I've seen about Lovecraft Elves? Something from a book or just a random rumor?

It's a random BoLS/Naftka thing, coupled with Verviedi not being able to recognize existing Tzeentch stuff.

The Skyfires(Tzaangors on Discs of Tzeentch with bows) and Screamers made him think it was "Lovecraftian Elves".

Also, it's people trying to make the Shadowkin into something they want it seems.

I said nothing, not my rumor. I know what a Screamer is

My Lovecraft comment was a response to this post.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Lord Kragon actually spotted those tentacles earlier!

I wonder if this is all a theme with Tzeentch and Shadowkin making the Lovecraft vibes while Steamhead and Vanguard are the classic interlopers with one being Victorian deep-sea themed and the other scouts/trackers?

 Verviedi wrote:
...Lovecraft Elves versus Steampunk Dwarves... I could not resist spending money. Do it, GW.

Image in Question-

Spoiler:

That's your post, Verv.

If you knew what it was--why say "image in question"?

Maybe he just meant how amazing the idea of Victorian Steampunk dwarves against Lovecraft-inspired enemies is?

Though Shadowkin are likely to be fighting for Order (while undermining them at the same time), though that's an awesome image as well.

Wasn't this the pic people were talking about, more specifically the tentacles?

If they make lovecratian elves. :( Then I'll go broke. Just broke. I'll be working on painting all the time. Don't make me choose GW. That pic is super cool an ominous. I bet it's going to happen.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:
...Lovecraft Elves versus Steampunk Dwarves... I could not resist spending money. Do it, GW.

Image in Question-

Spoiler:

That's your post, Verv.

If you knew what it was--why say "image in question"?

The top half was a response to the guy above me:

Baron Klatz wrote:
Lord Kragon actually spotted those tentacles earlier!

I wonder if this is all a theme with Tzeentch and Shadowkin making the Lovecraft vibes while Steamhead and Vanguard are the classic interlopers with one being Victorian deep-sea themed and the other scouts/trackers?

The bottom half was me posting an image that someone else mentioned but didn't post themselves. Sorry about the confusion.

 silverstu wrote:
Just seen a small pic on their FB page of a whole force on the tabletop in blue and gold - looks amazing.

Ohhh now that is interesting, those are not Tzeentch tentacles.

Urgh just makes me want to crack on with my Kvaldir Ulgu Chaos right now, from the mists they rise! Lovecraftian Warhammer is gonna be awwweeeeessssooooooooooooome. BANG TIDY!

Aye, I posted one highlighting the tentacles in red circles, sorry if I added to the confusion.

And I said it once, I say it again: My wallet is doomed if they release Lovecraft-based miniatures. GW has been nailing it, release after release, and using their skills to make such a thing...

HNNNG, I shiver in anticipation.

Wow! I don't think I've ever been hyped for fantasy dwarves before. Those guys are really cool. I love that there's no exposed flesh. I might even consider getting some of these guys.

I hear that Shadowkin are supposed to have airships as well? If true, I hope they go for a similar dive suit look for them. Fully sealed, armored environmental suits with Dark Elf aesthetics would be absolutely bad ass!

Cthulu elves (aelves) was a Hastings rumor, not BoLS nonsense.

Hastings himself has said it!? Holy jeebus. This is a big game changer than. I need to brace myself. Even if I don't like how they look I still have Khardarin Overlords. Probably going to be butchering the spelling for awhile on that lol. If it's true Hastings has said it then May time we will be having sky wars. Far cooler than the lesser ground based wars of the non-flyers.

Micheal Eisner: They look like ants from up here.
Bill Gates: They are ants Micheal. They... are... ants.

 Barzam wrote:
Wow! I don't think I've ever been hyped for fantasy dwarves before. Those guys are really cool. I love that there's no exposed flesh. I might even consider getting some of these guys.

I hear that Shadowkin are supposed to have airships as well? If true, I hope they go for a similar dive suit look for them. Fully sealed, armored environmental suits with Dark Elf aesthetics would be absolutely bad ass!

Shadowkin are, as far as we know right now?

We've seen two of them. The Tenebrael Shard and Mistweaver Saih in Silver Tower. Nothing about them has suggested airships or anything.

The Reavers(corsairs) do have something similar though from what's been said. They raid between the realms.

This:

Warhams-77 wrote:
This has been posted?

Hastings on Disqus/War of Sigmar (quotes via gw-fanworld.net)

As for the image, well I believe I MAY have already posted a week or so ago about what this could well be (of course I could be totally wrong, but it looks like what was described to me as the new Aelves faction for AoS, with a very deep one/cthulu feel - I do still feel that the eyes are very much Tau, but we never really got to see the facial features of the mistweaver from AoS ST did we?)

No more than everyone else really, I know there's at least one airship, other than that I "assume" they'll look similar in many ways to the cogsmith model aesthetically, but I guess a little more OTT and steampunkish. Quite looking forward to seeing them. As for exact release date I was expecting end of March, I was told they would be "NEXT" for AoS.

Which made people look closer at other minis to see this (tentacle on base):



And combined with older minis like this



And now this



It's certainly plausible.

Vorian wrote:
Cthulu elves (aelves) was a Hastings rumor, not BoLS nonsense.

...OhmygodYES.

If we see 'Cthulhu Aelves', I would expect to see them in the Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire release.

 Ghaz wrote:
If we see 'Cthulhu Aelves', I would expect to see them in the Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire release.

Wait what if its Death vs Cthulu Aelves?

Any rough idea when we might see some rules leaks? Hopefully won't be too long, it's gonna be a long wait til April

 unmercifulconker wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
If we see 'Cthulhu Aelves', I would expect to see them in the Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire release.

Wait what if its Death vs Cthulu Aelves?

Then my body (more like wallet) likely couldn't take it.

 RoboDragon wrote:
Any rough idea when we might see some rules leaks? Hopefully won't be too long, it's gonna be a long wait til April

For Disciples of Tzeentch and Stormcast, they had a sneak peek on stream a week or so before the release. There won't be anything until after Adepticon for sure, though.

Never been a dwarf fan and probably won't buy these.
But they look good.
With Sylvaneth and the Tzeentch stuff this is moving me towards eventually getting into AoS.
Just waiting on a couple more armies (Cthulu Elves would be great as would something for Death) to give an informed choice.

Still not sold on the rules but I expect third edition might bring what I need. So I reckon another 12-18 months.

 Barzam wrote:
Wow! I don't think I've ever been hyped for fantasy dwarves before. Those guys are really cool. I love that there's no exposed flesh. I might even consider getting some of these guys.

I hear that Shadowkin are supposed to have airships as well? If true, I hope they go for a similar dive suit look for them. Fully sealed, armored environmental suits with Dark Elf aesthetics would be absolutely bad ass!

Personally i hope they oppose the dwarf look with exposed , leath and fur armour and spears,hooks and all manner of barbarous boarding tools.

I hear that Shadowkin are supposed to have airships as well?

Well, there's no telling yet but you're probably thinking of the Exiles not the Shadowkin.

Exiles are Dark elves that work with Order and pretend to serve Sigmar while operating smuggling rings, piracy and Khaine cults in the dark parts of his cities. As such they do own airships as well as other vessels to ply their trade.

Shadowkin openly serve Malerion and are very mysterious in their intentions. The fact that any army that goes to their home, the realm of shadows, disappears without a trace is a good indicator that they're best left alone.

Or that they throw really good Tea parties and everyone totally loses track of time.

Man I can't wait to see some Squat conversions from these.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Or that they throw really good Tea parties and everyone totally loses track of time.

Parties in general, dont they have Slaanesh locked away somewhere there? Maybe (s)he isn't locked up, just having too much fun.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
So not to take away from the talk about the Skypirate Dwarves, which I think are rad, but whats this I've seen about Lovecraft Elves? Something from a book or just a random rumor?

Take runesmiths and isolate them to their logical extreme = Fyreslayers
Take engineers and do the same = Kharadron Overlords
And now do the same with Scourge Privateers.

Given the Silver Tower fluff it seems inevitable.

Observations that I think fit here:

Firstly; I thing it is safe to say that the updates for pre-existing models (i.e. legacy) will be paper rather than plastic (like flesheaters and beastclaws). New models will be in new factions and from ideas unique to the mortal realms.

Second. It appears that GW is going for rather "hit or miss" designs that take their concepts "up to 11". As if they realised that every army does not need to appeal or even liked by every player.
This also means that armies are getting a wide range of tones and themes, all with pronounced personalities that earn devoted fans rather than wide regard.
Which is an argument in favour of a Cuthulu themed release, as there are people who would LOVE it, even though there would also be many who would not care for it.

So, what's going to happen is that GW is going to sell a zillion of these through pre-orders.

Then, when people start picking up their Get Started boxes they'll find a bit of fluff inside that lets them know that's it's actually a faction of Night Goblins wearing mecha dwarf armor suits.

Okay, probably not, but I can dream.

Oh dear, seems I may be alone here, but I really don't like these new Dwarves. Don't get me wrong they're cool models, but not for Warhammer. I just don't feel they fit in with the time, they all have guns! One has a top hat! They're more Victorian steampunk than medieval fantasy. I think they would even fit better in 40k.

 deathstalker013 wrote:
Oh dear, seems I may be alone here, but I really don't like these new Dwarves. Don't get me wrong they're cool models, but not for Warhammer. I just don't feel they fit in with the time, they all have guns! One has a top hat! They're more Victorian steampunk than medieval fantasy. I think they would even fit better in 40k.

AOS is not medieval fantasy though I feel the aether/steam punk fits the setting hell they use airships for trade in ashqy.

Vorian wrote:
Cthulu elves (aelves) was a Hastings rumor, not BoLS nonsense.

Vorian wrote:
Cthulu elves (aelves) was a Hastings rumor

Vorian wrote:
Hastings

Right, I think GW spoiled me, I'm still recovering from the shock of the awesome sky-dwarves, and I'm already getting excited for Cthulhu Elves.

I guess the plan is to only buy the Kharadron Overlord's battletome for the fluff and try to keep my wallet safe until we get some more CE's news.

I think these past two days have increased my interest in AoS by an order of magnitude.

Well, that's interesting. Count me in the 'much more like squats than a fantasy race' camp, but they're interesting.

n0t_u wrote:Really not a fan of the armoured ping pong ball balloons, these would look so much better with rotors and propellers.

I think I could handle them better if they strapped alchemical fire throwers to their backs for jump-packs...

frozenwastes wrote:Cavorite FTW!

... though FrozenWastes soothes the irritation a bit.

DarkBlack wrote:Then why are you here?

Presumably because this place hasn't turned into Warseer. Yet.

TonyL707 wrote:
That was you enjoying it?

There are other reactions to GW models besides 'Eeeeee take all me money oh me wallet'.

Scary but true.

Brometheus wrote:I think last year before Summer Sad Panda (sorry for misquote) mentioned that GW is attempting to do more deliberate crossovers [of AoS and 40k useable miniatures].

Get away.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:So in a way, AoS has brought Fantasy back to it's roots - it's now a single system catering to any and all Fantasy tropes (if not manufacturers for the most part)

Ironically trademarkable 'generic fantasy'. Still not a fan of what prevents that being a full circle - less 'these are rules for your minis', more 'these are (highly priced) minis for our rules'.

 shinros wrote:

 deathstalker013 wrote:
Oh dear, seems I may be alone here, but I really don't like these new Dwarves. Don't get me wrong they're cool models, but not for Warhammer. I just don't feel they fit in with the time, they all have guns! One has a top hat! They're more Victorian steampunk than medieval fantasy. I think they would even fit better in 40k.

AOS is not medieval fantasy though I feel the aether/steam punk fits the setting hell they use airships for trade in ashqy.

Ok it's just my opinion, like I said it looks like I'm alone. I know AOS is not medieval, I don't even know what era it would be close to. But I imagine it as more R R Martin/Tolkien time whereas these look more Jules Verne. We have archers, swords men etc, I know there are a few guns already ( never really liked that ) but these...one has a Gatling gun, it just reminds me of the end of the last samurai. Even the Stormcasts have always reminded me of Roman legionnaires. Like I said just my opinion 40k maybe AOS no, age of Cthulu definitely.

 deathstalker013 wrote:
Oh dear, seems I may be alone here, but I really don't like these new Dwarves. Don't get me wrong they're cool models, but not for Warhammer. I just don't feel they fit in with the time, they all have guns! One has a top hat! They're more Victorian steampunk than medieval fantasy. I think they would even fit better in 40k.

Warhammer left medieval fantasy behind in the Old World. The Mortal Realms are OTT epic fantasy.

I mean come on, there's an assault cannon, thunder hammer, chainsword, a tech priest one even has a bolter!!!

 deathstalker013 wrote:
I just don't feel they fit in with the time, they all have guns!.

Dwarves already had basic guns in Warhammer Fantasy. In AoS, they've had several thousand years to develop from where they were in the Old World.

 deathstalker013 wrote:
Oh dear, seems I may be alone here, but I really don't like these new Dwarves. Don't get me wrong they're cool models, but not for Warhammer. I just don't feel they fit in with the time, they all have guns! One has a top hat! They're more Victorian steampunk than medieval fantasy. I think they would even fit better in 40k.

Believe me, you're not alone.

WHFB died for this gak.

 insaniak wrote:

 deathstalker013 wrote:
I just don't feel they fit in with the time, they all have guns!.

Dwarves already had basic guns in Warhammer Fantasy. In AoS, they've had several thousand years to develop from where they were in the Old World.

They are now in their renaissance of technology. I find that inspiring honestly. Everyone else is depending on magic and they go and magitech the gak out of all their problems.

Ruin wrote:

 deathstalker013 wrote:
Oh dear, seems I may be alone here, but I really don't like these new Dwarves. Don't get me wrong they're cool models, but not for Warhammer. I just don't feel they fit in with the time, they all have guns! One has a top hat! They're more Victorian steampunk than medieval fantasy. I think they would even fit better in 40k.

Believe me, you're not alone.

WHFB died for this gak.

WFHB died because no one was buying it. It's coffin was already bought and paid for by the dwindling sales.

 jreilly89 wrote:

Ruin wrote:

 deathstalker013 wrote:
Oh dear, seems I may be alone here, but I really don't like these new Dwarves. Don't get me wrong they're cool models, but not for Warhammer. I just don't feel they fit in with the time, they all have guns! One has a top hat! They're more Victorian steampunk than medieval fantasy. I think they would even fit better in 40k.

Believe me, you're not alone.

WHFB died for this gak.

WFHB died because no one was buying it. It's coffin was already bought and paid for by the dwindling sales.

That's the spirit! Blame the customer for GW putting no fething effort in. If they even put in one iota of effort into what they've done with promoting AoS with fixing WHFB then it would still be here.

Whilst I realise 1. I am fighting a losing battle 2. I don't really know the history of fantasy, I've only ever read the Darkblade novels. I'm a 40k man and only started AOS late last year. I just feel (in my opinion) guns should be 40k not AOS.

Remembering that new 40k rules are due soon... I'm still wondering if they'll be compatible with AoS so GW players can play any of their armies against any others.

Secondly I'm now so glad they changed the name to Duardin(tm). Calling these dwarves would have Ungrim Ironfist turning in his grave.

Ruin wrote:

 deathstalker013 wrote:
Oh dear, seems I may be alone here, but I really don't like these new Dwarves. Don't get me wrong they're cool models, but not for Warhammer. I just don't feel they fit in with the time, they all have guns! One has a top hat! They're more Victorian steampunk than medieval fantasy. I think they would even fit better in 40k.

Believe me, you're not alone.

WHFB died for this gak.

Could we
A: Please not start that again, especially in the rumour thread.
B: Please not insult games that other people enjoy. If you don't have anything nice to say then at least stay on topic, pretty please.

The owner of our FLGS is at the GAMA show and posted these pics of the new models.

Hello everyone!

Feel free to discuss whether you like or dislike these models. If you want to discuss whether you like or dislike Age of Sigmar, please take that to a different thread in the AoS General Discussion forum. That is off topic in this thread and posting about it here violates Rule Number Two.

Thanks!

As a lazy person I adore being able to base the bottom with cotton and call it a day lol.

 Gamgee wrote:
As a lazy person I adore being able to base the bottom with cotton and call it a day lol.

"My army is from the Realm of Clouds"

Haha yeep lol. Also this Kharadrin theme from the trailer is so sweet.

 Gamgee wrote:
As a lazy person I adore being able to base the bottom with cotton and call it a day lol.

In fairness, though, that's not a bad idea mate.

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Manchu wrote:
Hello everyone!

Feel free to discuss whether you like or dislike these models. If you want to discuss whether you like or dislike Age of Sigmar, please take that to a different thread in the AoS General Discussion forum. That is off topic in this thread and posting about it here violates Rule Number Two.

Thanks!

from twitter

This is a new board game coming from GW that is "very different than anything we've done"...coming later this year.

I actually really like the models, but honestly. GW is so trolling old Squat fans with this, lol. Also getting tired of reading "Khadoran", dammit.

Look Squat fans who remember 1995! We certainly could have done something insane, and made all this effort into a 40k army to bring back your favorite space dwarves, just like with Genestealer cults! Oh well, I guess you need to beg more alongside the Sisters fans....

I really wish there were some bare faces, though. In their own way, these guys are as much lacking in individuality as Stormcast are. Bare faces would have made these guys awesome, instead of just 'really cool'.

Nvm

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
As a lazy person I adore being able to base the bottom with cotton and call it a day lol.

In fairness, though, that's not a bad idea mate.

Thanks.

Ugh, as much as I like new sets and boxed games. Please. Something else other than Stormcast vs Bloodbound.

So any idea when the Overlords are going up for order?

Well I had literally just started a Sylvaneth army. Sad to see them shelved so soon because SWEET FETH AIRSHIPS! I'm actually shocked at the size of those models. There's so much detail on the flying boats that a full base hardly seems necessary.

 mmzero252 wrote:
Well I had literally just started a Sylvaneth army. Sad to see them shelved so soon because SWEET FETH AIRSHIPS! I'm actually shocked at the size of those models. There's so much detail on the flying boats that a full base hardly seems necessary.

Or just have them allied to each other?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 mmzero252 wrote:
Well I had literally just started a Sylvaneth army. Sad to see them shelved so soon because SWEET FETH AIRSHIPS! I'm actually shocked at the size of those models. There's so much detail on the flying boats that a full base hardly seems necessary.

Or just have them allied to each other?

But...then I can't have as many glorious airships :c

I know that feel zero. I want to see their entire fleet range. From little cutters all the way to battleships.

guru wrote:
from twitter

This is a new board game coming from GW that is "very different than anything we've done"...coming later this year.

Here I was hoping (still hoping) its more than just Khorne and Stormcast.

My mind has been reeling at the thought of what kind of alternate builds/ extra bits all these kits could possibly come with.

oh, the sweet possibilities...

Someone on TGA pointed out that that logo for shadowspire could suggest hex bases.

With no real info I'm calling hex based 3x3 arena/dungeons.

Played with single models or small units with x wing style activation, cards and unit customisation.

guru wrote:

This is a new board game coming from GW that is "very different than anything we've done"...coming later this year.

Yeah Stormcast vs Khorne Bloodbund again.........!!!!

Also I just cant help it, but that dude looks like PapaSmurf or the the old school Doom Guy.

Yeah the new Dwarfs aren't for me but it is nice to see some new minis.

I''m more interested in whats in the new Starter as it looks like it has all the troops but not any of the Characters. Could be used to upgrade a force on the cheap. Especially if its in the same price range as the Spire of Dawn.

That Stormcast isn't wearing a helmet!

That Stormcast has hair!!

That Stormcast can Blue Steel!!!

GW, I don't even know you any more.



PS: Does anyone else think he looks like Recoome?

Just... look at that hand and arm next to his head. Reminds me of an old-school recruitment poster.

 Verviedi wrote:
Just... look at that hand and arm next to his head. Reminds me of an old-school recruitment poster.

There's some proportion trouble and foreshortening failure in that artwork for sure.

guru wrote:
from twitter

Spoiler:

This is a new board game coming from GW that is "very different than anything we've done"...coming later this year.

Uhhh... looks very much like what GW has been doing with AoS for the last year+. Khorne vs Sigmarines.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I actually really like the models, but honestly. GW is so trolling old Squat fans with this, lol. Also getting tired of reading "Khadoran", dammit.

Look Squat fans who remember 1995! We certainly could have done something insane, and made all this effort into a 40k army to bring back your favorite space dwarves, just like with Genestealer cults! Oh well, I guess you need to beg more alongside the Sisters fans....

I really wish there were some bare faces, though. In their own way, these guys are as much lacking in individuality as Stormcast are. Bare faces would have made these guys awesome, instead of just 'really cool'.

I'm guessing there might be kitbashing possibilities with the more recent dwarf kits to add some faces. Also you never know they might do Squats as well later based on the reaction to these.

They look great in the cabinet pictures - and that is the smaller of the two large airships... brilliant!

I hope Shadow Spire isn't Stormcast and Bloodbound again.. It would be a bit dull..

That is the medium airship.

No, it isn't. That's a blank space.

I love the new Kharadron overlords. Which is pretty funny cuz I have never really liked dwarves. Any Dwarves. So.. Maybe the fact that they aren't super "dwarf" is why I do?

1. I do have some Scibor dwarven steam armor guys that I think will look good with these guys.

2. I think they have a cool nautical theme... I want lots of ships. I hope I can mix some reaper Krakens in with them (on flying bases) with a couple harpoon spear guys mounted on their backs.

I hate AoS, but I SOOOOOOOOOO want to figure out how to use that air ship as a "counts as" in my Cryx Wraith Pirate army. I dont know what to represent, but I got to finds a way. If I didnt already have a Galleon, I would use it for that.

 AegisGrimm wrote:

I really wish there were some bare faces, though. In their own way, these guys are as much lacking in individuality as Stormcast are. Bare faces would have made these guys awesome, instead of just 'really cool'.

I am beginning to wonder if there is a background reason for this. With the airship crew and the balloon boys it could just be that they are wearing pressurised flight suits of some kind. But none of the infantry or heroes are showing any flesh at all. Could the Kharadron be physically disfigured somehow(maybe they lost there beards ), or could they need the suits to survive/breath at ground level after spending so long at higher altitude's?

That said its probably more to do with keeping a theme across the army. With the side bonus of no tricky faces to paint.

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:

I really wish there were some bare faces, though. In their own way, these guys are as much lacking in individuality as Stormcast are. Bare faces would have made these guys awesome, instead of just 'really cool'.

I am beginning to wonder if there is a background reason for this. With the airship crew and the balloon boys it could just be that they are wearing pressurised flight suits of some kind. But none of the infantry or heroes are showing any flesh at all. Could the Kharadron be physically disfigured somehow(maybe they lost there beards ), or could they need the suits to survive/breath at ground level after spending so long at higher altitude's?

That said its probably more to do with keeping a theme across the army. With the side bonus of no tricky faces to paint.

I think I read that they wear enclosed suits to protect them from the magic enriched skies at altitude...

Am I the only one who thinks that thin flying stand on the Arkanaut Ironclad is going to cause major problems?

Zwan1One wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:

I really wish there were some bare faces, though. In their own way, these guys are as much lacking in individuality as Stormcast are. Bare faces would have made these guys awesome, instead of just 'really cool'.

I am beginning to wonder if there is a background reason for this. With the airship crew and the balloon boys it could just be that they are wearing pressurised flight suits of some kind. But none of the infantry or heroes are showing any flesh at all. Could the Kharadron be physically disfigured somehow(maybe they lost there beards ), or could they need the suits to survive/breath at ground level after spending so long at higher altitude's?

That said its probably more to do with keeping a theme across the army. With the side bonus of no tricky faces to paint.

I think I read that they wear enclosed suits to protect them from the magic enriched skies at altitude...

Yup the suits are so they can withstand the atmosphere and altitude of the skies of the mortal realms, also part of the skies being infused with possible harmful magic.

Just seems strange that the guys on foot wouldn't have the odd open helm. Maybe there's some alternate heads in the kits?

Someone posted a great image on faeit, I love it. XD

Edit: sorry, I thought this was the other thread and I already posted this joke.
My theory is that it's actually a faction of Night Goblins wearing dwarf-looking mecha armor. They've styled their armor after the great foe that their ancestors defeated millennia ago.

[Sigh] We just can't have cool looking stuff anymore. What happened western civilization? You used to be cool.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Just seems strange that the guys on foot wouldn't have the odd open helm. Maybe there's some alternate heads in the kits?

Eh, they might but since these are guys who just now came out of the skies I can't see the infantry prepared for more than fighting from ship decks and floating landscapes.


The "Worlds" part interests me alot and whether there's going to be alot more to this with the two Starter groups acting as another gateway into "deeper" AoS territory the way that Silver Tower did.

Also, holy cow is that the most angry pauldron I've ever seen!