You would be better with all combi Meltas. They cost the same and give the special ammo.

Stormraven with TL Plas cannon and Nose mounted TL MM-200

p_gray99 wrote:5 Sternguard, 2 meltas, 3 combi-meltas, drop pod: 185. I drop + kill valk, you kill 2 with meltas, I shoot you down with 3 bolters.

8 Thousand sons - 184 - I rapid fire you to death with ap3 bolters

Deadshot wrote:Fine, we're boht in cover, but the point is that I have a 3+ cover save, and will hit FAR easier, and have a good chance to kill you.

If i hit you once, you die. 2x TL=good chance of hitting.

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MrNurgle wrote:

p_gray99 wrote:5 Sternguard, 2 meltas, 3 combi-meltas, drop pod: 185. I drop + kill valk, you kill 2 with meltas, I shoot you down with 3 bolters.

8 Thousand sons - 184 - I rapid fire you to death with ap3 bolters

3x Fireknife XV8 suits-176

10 kommandoz with snikrot

200

5 Grey Knight Terminators with Swords-200

meltavets in a vendetta

230

youre roastbeef

6 Hammernators 240

i think the termies are down on that one.....
anyway
deciver 300
i can engage you if i so choose with s-9 no armor no invul or just run you off the board with my abilities. i can walk out of cc too.

Edit:
forgot new dex was out so ill take 10 eldar pathfinder rangers 240 I think......

Vindicare-Obsession wrote:i think the termies are down on that one.....
anyway
deciver 300
i can engage you if i so choose with s-9 no armor no invul or just run you off the board with my abilities. i can walk out of cc too.

Edit:
forgot new dex was out so ill take 10 eldar pathfinder rangers 240 I think......

8 Tau pathfinders, Shas'ui with 2 shield drones w/ 3 RailRifles, Devilfish with SMS, DP, DL, TA-266

My Pathfinders are better.

IG Com Sqd.
C.O., M.O.Or, 3xSriper, 1 LG (Carapace Armor on all)= 115pts

danpieri wrote:IG Com Sqd.
C.O., M.O.Or, 3xSriper, 1 LG (Carapace Armor on all)= 115pts

How many models is that? If it's less than twenty it probably won't win.

its 5

MrMerlin wrote:its 5

It's six.
3 snipers, 1 Gl, 1 company commander and the master of Ordance.

And a Leman Russ would flatten them all!
(150 points)

Ravager
Flicker Field
Shadow Shields
125 points

5x Long man w/ML and Squad Leader-150 (I think)

Ravager
Disintegrator Cannons
Flicker Field
Shadow Shields
125 points

2 Hydra Flak Tanks-150

2 buzzsaw/ rokkit deffkoptas; theyll boost to get a 3+coversave, and then asault you

Hydra's ignore the cover save for Turbo Boosting Bikes or Flat Out skimmers.

oh S**t, youre right! in that case ill send some scout sentinels with lascannons after you

3 of them sould stay below 150

Is the AV limit up to 34 now, or still 33?

If it is 33> 15 Termagants with Devourers-150

If AV 34>

Vindicator with Siege Sheild, Hunter Killer and Extra stormbolter( now has 2), and Extra armour-155

well now im sending the Koptas after you vindicator!

2 deffkoptas with rokkiz and saw

140

Nemisis Dreadknght with Heavy Incinerator-150

Deadshot wrote:Is the AV limit up to 34 now, or still 33?

34. Not enough good vehicles were included in 33, and 34 still allows enough and cheap ones to get out of the way of loops.

MrMerlin wrote:2 deffkoptas with rokkiz and saw

140

Wraithlord, starcannon, sword: 130: I win with shooting or assault, I don't care about S8 'cos I'm T8 W4.

Did you miss my Dreadknight?


Nemisis Dreadknight with Daemon Hammer-150ish

I strike at Str 10, int 4, 3 attacks, and inflict ID if I roll uder a 10 on 2D6. I also hit on 3+.

Shooting you win, but not with me Deep Striking close up. You move, I follow and run to keep up, then assault.

Deadshot wrote:Did you miss my Dreadknight?


Nemisis Dreadknight with Daemon Hammer-150ish

I strike at Str 10, int 4, 3 attacks, and inflict ID if I roll uder a 10 on 2D6. I also hit on 3+.

Shooting you win, but not with me Deep Striking close up. You move, I follow and run to keep up, then assault.

Yeah, ninja'd. Anyway, I suppose that I'll do 15 Kabalite Warriors, Splinter Cannon. All those poisoned (4+) shots! I generally only need 10 to well and truly take out a dreadknight, and with around 2 turns (or 3 for the splinter cannon, 6 shots) I should be able to take you out no problem.

p_gray99 wrote:
Wraithlord, starcannon, sword: 130: I win with shooting or assault, I don't care about S8 'cos I'm T8 W4.

i shoot the hell out of you with twin rokkiz! you only got 3 wounds, and i got 2 rokkiz a turn. You do wound on 3s, but i have 2 wounds each

p_gray99 wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Did you miss my Dreadknight?


Nemisis Dreadknight with Daemon Hammer-150ish

I strike at Str 10, int 4, 3 attacks, and inflict ID if I roll uder a 10 on 2D6. I also hit on 3+.

Shooting you win, but not with me Deep Striking close up. You move, I follow and run to keep up, then assault.

Yeah, ninja'd. Anyway, I suppose that I'll do 15 Kabalite Warriors, Splinter Cannon. All those poisoned (4+) shots! I generally only need 10 to well and truly take out a dreadknight, and with around 2 turns (or 3 for the splinter cannon, 6 shots) I should be able to take you out no problem.

Points?

Probably around 150.


3 HF Land Speeders. Your poisoned shots can't touch me.

Serperate squadrons, 150pts.

AV limit of 34? Is that before or after Quantum Shields?

...and 2 Hydra Flak Tanks 150pts

3 Broadsides.

BAM!


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BAM!

DreadlordME! wrote:3 Broadsides.

BAM!


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BAM!

Points and weapons could be useful...

3 MM Land Speeders, seperate sdquadrons-180.

TYou stioll need a 4+ to pen me, and the most you can do is kill 2 in one turn, and not if I deep strike and land close by.

Didn't see this page. The Broadsides are about 180 IIRC, and are armed with TL Railguns. Str 10, AP 1, 72" if you didn't know.



3 Paladins with Hammers and Psybolt Ammo-185

Deep Striking.

1 black templar vindicator with poms, 155

chaplaincliff wrote:1 black templar vindicator with poms, 155

broadside. 70.

Also, I don't think quantum shielding is counted for the 34, otherwise all necron vehicles would be out instantly.

p_gray99 wrote:

chaplaincliff wrote:1 black templar vindicator with poms, 155

broadside. 70.

Also, I don't think quantum shielding is counted for the 34, otherwise all necron vehicles would be out instantly.

Dreadnought with Multi-melta and CCW.

Broadside wins against a Dread.

Deadshot wrote:Broadside wins against a Dread.

Destroyer lord. 125 points

New or Old?

Deadshot wrote:New or Old?

New. The old one cost more.

2 Paladins with Hammers and Psybolt Ammo-130

Ravager
Disintegrator Cannons
Night Shields
Flicker Field
125 points

dreadnought with auto cannon, and missile launcher - 115

chaplaincliff wrote:dreadnought with auto cannon, and missile launcher - 115

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Can we put a floor on these units? Like, pointwise?

As much as I love pimping efficient combos in the 30-150 point range, I'd like to see some of the 400-500 point deathstars tossed into the pit.

10 GK purifiers with Falchions.

CHOPPY DIE DIE DIE

NoShoes wrote:I'm pretty sure Ratlings would beat kommandos in a shooting contest.

I'm not sure orks could beat anyone in a shooting contest if it was point for point. Maybe Shoota Boyz if they shot first.

Ok here is my favorite death-star unit.

emperor's champion w/ AACNMTO - 150
assault terminators w/ POLC & Furious Charge - 301
all in an LRC w/ Blessed hull - 290
all for 741 points.

from the termies that is that is 28 attacks on the charge, re-roll missed hits, and missed wounds, all at I5 and S5

and the champ is 4 attacks on the charge, re-rolling missed hits, at I5 S6

and all of these are power weapons.

the lrc's blessed hull makes any lance weapon have to take the lrc's armour 14

3 monoliths, 705 points (the old 'dex monoliths, as I have no idea what the new ones do...)

Leman Russ demolisher(x4): 660 points

5x terminators w/ 2 cyclone missile launchers and tank hunters (3 squads); 795 points

chaplaincliff wrote:5x terminators w/ 2 cyclone missile launchers and tank hunters (3 squads); 795 points

5x Triarch Praetorians, no upgrades. x3 (200pts x3 = 600 points)

you beat me chaplancliff...I was about to kill the leman russes with some Anrakyr-based BS-ery.

Doesn't help that it took over 10 minutes to figure out how to table 4 damn tanks in one turn :(
I need to learn my codex better!

3 LR Executioners for 570

MrMerlin wrote:3 LR Executioners for 570

Tactical Squad with Plasma Gun and Multi-melta- 180

DoctorZombie wrote:

MrMerlin wrote:3 LR Executioners for 570

Tactical Squad with Plasma Gun and Multi-melta- 180

This would take probably take two turns to work well, just being honest...

DoctorZombie wrote:

MrMerlin wrote:3 LR Executioners for 570

Tactical Squad with Plasma Gun and Multi-melta- 180

how is one tac. squad goin to beat 3 LR?

prime12357 wrote:3 monoliths, 705 points (the old 'dex monoliths, as I have no idea what the new ones do...)

They are 35pts cvheaper, but that's about it, except for Living Metal. Instaead, when it suffers a Shaken result, it ignores it on a 2+. It ignores stunned on a 4+.

MrMerlin wrote:3 LR Executioners for 570

3 Doomsday Arks - 525

10 Hammernators in a BA Land Raider-640

Jackster wrote:

MrMerlin wrote:3 LR Executioners for 570

3 Doomsday Arks - 525

7 Broadsides. 490. 3 Drones, 1 for each unit. 30.Total: 520. Widely spaced so you can only get 3 per blast.


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bah! Ninja'd. Anyway, 10 hammernators can't fit in a Land Raider, and I can take it down with 5 ravagers, night shields, flickerfields: 625pts. Stay out of range of the hammernators, and destroy the Land Raider easily.

Sorry, should have mentioned combat Squads.

9 Hydras. 675

One squadron of 1, 4 of 2.

Deadshot wrote:Sorry, should have mentioned combat Squads.

9 Hydras. 675

One squadron of 1, 4 of 2.

9 broadsides. 630. 5 drones, 50: 680 in total. Utterly destroy you.

How many in each unit?

doh ninja'd

p_gray99 wrote:
9 broadsides. 630. 5 drones, 50: 680 in total. Utterly destroy you.

Doesn't matter how many in each unit.

16 triarch praetorians. 2 squads of 5, 1 squad of 6. 680 points. All ur broadsides are belong to me

30 Ork Boyz with pistol and weapon x5
900

you forgot to bring a nob with a pk

so scatterlaser-warwalkers, 15 for 900

5 Squadrons of 3?

Bear in mind there is a limit of 5 units.


7 Vindicare Assassins-1015

Illegall, only 5 of each unit. + how do assassins beat boyz!

anyway, 30 Hormagants with adreanal glands and toxin sacks x5

Oh so you were paying attetion

They don't, they beat the Warwalkers

30 Devil Gaunts X 5-1500pts, I think.

Yours is 1200.

Deadshot wrote:Oh so you were paying attetion

They don't, they beat the Warwalkers

30 Devil Gaunts X 5-1500pts, I think.

Yours is 1200.

1500?

Okay,
26 Fireknife Crisis suits-1508

They put out almost 2 shots for every three of your models, per turn. I.E. You're screwed.

Or, more legally,

3x3 PIG, TA suits w/ 2 shield drones each-1485

30 DC with thunderhammers, 1200ish?

LR Executioner with Plasma Sponsons x6 - 1380

10 Canoptek Scarabs x 5 You are armour 0 all over!

OR

5 Piranhas with fusion guns 310

5 man CSM chosen squad( 4plasmaguns, 1meltagun ) mark of slaanesh - 180pts

stormraven gunship - TL assault cannon, hurricane bolters, heavy bolters in the nose - 230 pts

2 eldar wave serpents; no upgrades, ill just ram you to biz

180 p

MrMerlin wrote:2 eldar wave serpents; no upgrades, ill just ram you to biz

180 p

5 Scourges w/ 2 blasters + solarite w/ blast pistol: 165
I'm not using broadsides!!!

Immortals x10 - Telsa Carbine - 170

Jackster wrote:Immortals x10 - Telsa Carbine - 170

and nobody knows what it does :(

Deadshot wrote:Sorry, should have mentioned combat Squads.

9 Hydras. 675

One squadron of 1, 4 of 2.

Land Speeder squadron, 2 with multi-melta, 1 with missiles, two tac squads, each with plasma and a multi-melta.

MrMerlin wrote:

Jackster wrote:Immortals x10 - Telsa Carbine - 170

and nobody knows what it does :(

Why? The book is out for almost a week now.

DoctorZombie wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Sorry, should have mentioned combat Squads.

9 Hydras. 675

One squadron of 1, 4 of 2.

Land Speeder squadron, 2 with multi-melta, 1 with missiles, two tac squads, each with plasma and a multi-melta.

You can't have 2 types of squads, can you? Anyway, points?

3x 5 hammernators should cover it. 600. Deep striking next to you.

DoctorZombie wrote:

Deadshot wrote:Sorry, should have mentioned combat Squads.

9 Hydras. 675

One squadron of 1, 4 of 2.

Land Speeder squadron, 2 with multi-melta, 1 with missiles, two tac squads, each with plasma and a multi-melta.

So like...700 ish? Please post points.

56 Fire warriors, 2 XV88s-700

150 Ork Boyz with PK nob

that would be 940 points, right?

totally illegal:
32 crisis suits TL flame throwers

more legal
shas'el TL AFP TL flamer multitracker, 3 Hammerheads railguns burst cannon multitracker, 9 crisis suits TL flamers with target locks

7 separate units for less than 950 points beats your 5 squads of 30 boyz a piece. sadly that'll leave us really easy to beat XD

im gonna give it a shot.

3 monolithes. 600 points.

ignores shaken results on 2+ whilst stunned removed on 4+, AND deep strike, makes these pretty tough to beat (though i might be wrong)

3 Vendettas.
390 Points.

as many eldar swooping hawks as you can get for the points; Theyll blow you up with theyr haywire grenades wich hit on 4+

dbsamurai wrote:totally illegal:
32 crisis suits TL flame throwers

more legal
shas'el TL AFP TL flamer multitracker, 3 Hammerheads railguns burst cannon multitracker, 9 crisis suits TL flamers with target locks

7 separate units for less than 950 points beats your 5 squads of 30 boyz a piece. sadly that'll leave us really easy to beat XD

Both illegal, Can't have a TL AFP cuz it's special issue, and can't have two twin-linked weapon on the same model.


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Leonus Cohol wrote:3 Vendettas.
390 Points.

5 XV88s-350

5 units of 2 Wraith each w/ Particle Caster x1, Whip Coil x1 - 425

Waht happened! We ahd the points maxed out! Who dropped them downlow again?!

30 Lootas - 450


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5 units of... 10 GK PALADINS WITH FALCHION SPAM!

200 S4 Instant Death attacks!

dbsamurai wrote:totally illegal:
32 crisis suits TL flame throwers

more legal
shas'el TL AFP TL flamer multitracker, 3 Hammerheads railguns burst cannon multitracker, 9 crisis suits TL flamers with target locks

7 separate units for less than 950 points beats your 5 squads of 30 boyz a piece. sadly that'll leave us really easy to beat XD

Why bother with multitrackers? You don't need them for TL weapons on crisis suits

2x 10 Incubi: 440pts


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DreadlordME! wrote:5 units of... 10 GK PALADINS WITH FALCHION SPAM!

200 S4 Instant Death attacks!

points?

@ Incubi, 15 Stealthsuits-450

high marshal helbrecht, command squad – 9, apothecary, fighting company champion, sergeant w/ terminator honours, terminator honours – 8, master crafted pairs of lightning claws – 9, master of sanctity w/ bolt pistol, Neophytes – 3, master crafted pairs of lightning claws – 9, furious charge – 15, land raider crusader, tech marine w/ Servo-harness all for 1491

I love this single unit of Killy goodness, a bit stoopid ridiculous, but fun.

WTF!

@Stealth suites:
4x 3 man squads of flamers of tzeentch, ds -420

all using breath of chaos to the squad on landing

You do realize that the helbrecht squad of doom is pretty damn legal in accordance to the black template codex.... a squad that has some damn rediculouse capabilities, I could go further if it weren't for the point cap on this.

ya but that point jump is to much
why i skipped u

chaplaincliff wrote:You do realize that the helbrecht squad of doom is pretty damn legal in accordance to the black template codex.... a squad that has some damn rediculouse capabilities, I could go further if it weren't for the point cap on this.

I did manage to beat that stuff in a real game with:

10 nobs with all kinds of upgrades incl 3pks, a waaagh banner, a painboy etc....
with a dedicated battlewagon with a rolla to smash the LR

at about 500 pts

@ Nobz
5 Beastmasters w/ 10 razorwing flocks-210

TheAngrySquig wrote:@ Nobz
5 Beastmasters w/ 10 razorwing flocks-210

3x XV9s-225

5 Nemesis Dreadknights with Greatswords and psycannons 975

DreadlordME! wrote:5 Nemesis Dreadknights with Greatswords and psycannons 975

...you're not allowed to quadruple the points. Anyways,

XV9 w/Fusion Cascades and TA x9-990

Potential for 54 melta shots a turn at BS5

im2randomghgh wrote:

DreadlordME! wrote:5 Nemesis Dreadknights with Greatswords and psycannons 975

...you're not allowed to quadruple the points. Anyways,

XV9 w/Fusion Cascades and TA x9-990

Potential for 54 melta shots a turn at BS5

5x 30 orks, 1x 15 orks: 990pts. How many shots was that for my 165 boyz?
And if that's not good enough for you, 5x 5 hammernators. 1000pts. Take out whichever you like.

at boyz
And again Ill send out 5 squadrons of 3 scatterlaser-warwalkers each. You forgot to bring pks, so youre dead.

900

MrMerlin wrote:at boyz
And again Ill send out 5 squadrons of 3 scatterlaser-warwalkers each. You forgot to bring pks, so youre dead.

900

13 XV88, TA-1040

5x Daemon prince of tzeentch, daemon codex, Mark of tzeentch, master of sorcery, Bolt of tzeentch, breath of chaos, daemonic gaze - 1000

ds next to them and unload all three attacks

100 DE Kabalite Warriors-900. Can you save from that many poison shots?

Don't have to.

5 BA Stormravens with Assault cannon and HB-1000

Deadshot wrote:Don't have to.

5 BA Stormravens with Assault cannon and HB-1000

Lol, that would be funny.

Sorry if you didn't see it though, but we've stopped allowing vehicles with av. >34 because there are numerous anti-tank stuff and we get into a loop. Using hordes of lighter vehicles is fine, but a stormraven is 12 12 12 which adds to 36: it's not allowed. Sorry.

@ Kabalite Warriors: 23 TH/SS termies, Ds right next to you. I can survive that many shots. 920pts

Bugger, sorry forgot. Yep, I was here early. Its Deadshot. Didn't recognise me with my new picture eh?

Doom of malantai in a drop pod=150ish
3 units of 3 zoanthropes=540
690 in total.
Also what terminators are they?,are they chaos?just wondering as i think normal marine termies are a bit more expensive than that.

Those Points are correct. 10 Termiesd cost 400 and 3 cost 120. 400+400+120=920

im2randomghgh wrote:

dbsamurai wrote:totally illegal:
32 crisis suits TL flame throwers

more legal
shas'el TL AFP TL flamer multitracker

Both illegal, Can't have a TL AFP cuz it's special issue, and can't have two twin-linked weapon on the same model.

shas'el TARGET LOCK AFP TL Flamer
sorry it's not very good at giving options for the abbreviations, and tau have too many abbreviations anyways lol




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p_gray99 wrote:

dbsamurai wrote:totally illegal:
32 crisis suits TL flame throwers

more legal
shas'el TL AFP TL flamer multitracker, 3 Hammerheads railguns burst cannon multitracker, 9 crisis suits TL flamers with target locks

7 separate units for less than 950 points beats your 5 squads of 30 boyz a piece. sadly that'll leave us really easy to beat XD

Why bother with multitrackers? You don't need them for TL weapons on crisis suits

that's why I didn't I took it for my shas'el so that he can fire TL flamers and his AFP in the same turn. the crisis suits have target locks so they can blast different squads if need be.

dbsamurai wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

dbsamurai wrote:totally illegal:
32 crisis suits TL flame throwers

more legal
shas'el TL AFP TL flamer multitracker

Both illegal, Can't have a TL AFP cuz it's special issue, and can't have two twin-linked weapon on the same model.

shas'el TARGET LOCK AFP TL Flamer
sorry it's not very good at giving options for the abbreviations, and tau have too many abbreviations anyways lol

Target lock allows a model to attack a different unit than the rest of it's team, not fire two different weapons at two different targets. Multi tracker lets you fire both though


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flyingsquirrels wrote:Doom of malantai in a drop pod=150ish
3 units of 3 zoanthropes=540
690 in total.
Also what terminators are they?,are they chaos?just wondering as i think normal marine termies are a bit more expensive than that.

10 XV9s-750

of course it does that...


Are we doing forgeworld units now lol? I thought they counted under the whole no fliers thing...but i guess that only covers fliers and titans...

9 broadsides-630
6 stealth suits fusion blasters -184
total 814

Can't have different units except Dedicated Transports

When did this happen...
fine then 20 death company with chaplain-500

5x Ravagers with Disintegrators.

525 Points.

First post.

5 Paldins, 2 Master Crafted Halberds, MC 2 Psycannons- Apothecary, Banner, Psybolt, Warding Stave, 1 pair of MC Falchions, 2 Master Crafted Stormbolters

500pts.

@ Ravagers 5x 5 Long Fangs w/ missile launchers-525

14 TH/SS Termies-560

2 Squads of 7.

3 x Leman Russ Executioner with plasma cannon sponsons - 690 (Though 2 could probably do it)

Apparently AV 34+ is abnned, tough I will take you up on that with 3 GK Stormravens with , Hurricaines and Psybolt-730

Assault Cannons and MM.

Deadshot wrote:Apparently AV 34+ is abnned, tough I will take you up on that with 3 GK Stormravens with , Hurricaines and Psybolt-730

Assault Cannons and MM.

you'll never see this coming but 9 broadsides with multitrackers 720

Deadshot wrote:Apparently AV 34+ is abnned, tough I will take you up on that with 3 GK Stormravens with , Hurricaines and Psybolt-730

Assault Cannons and MM.

Oh, sorry, I'd drop it down to 2 then

Alrighty then, how many points is that?

490?

fine then, 8 piranhas with fusion blasters 520

or if you prefer,

9 crisis suits with TL fusion blasters and targeting arrays-477

it may not get it's handy dandy 2d6 pen but ur talking 9 s8 shots at bs 4 on two AV12 ships. ur goin dooooowwwwnnnn

dbsamurai wrote:Alrighty then, how many points is that?

490?

fine then, 8 piranhas with fusion blasters 520

or if you prefer,

9 crisis suits with TL fusion blasters and targeting arrays-477

it may not get it's handy dandy 2d6 pen but ur talking 9 s8 shots at bs 4 on two AV12 ships. ur goin dooooowwwwnnnn

@ Crisis suits 5x XV9s w/ Fusion Cascades.-575

these are what fusion blasters wish they were.

are xv9s (which is a totally incorrect numeral rating btw, tau use base 8 so they have no 9) MCs or vehicles? don't really keep up with forgeworld, too expensive and no one ever sells their models on ebay

150 ORK BOYZ WITH 5NOBS WITH PK'S

DreadlordME! wrote:150 ORK BOYZ WITH 5NOBS WITH PK'S

-You must post the point value along with a unit. Cuz it's the rules and I dont wanna do your math. Also I'm assuming thats 5 squads of 30 boyz?

that would be 1100 points

9 valks with those 30pt missiles

1170

Hellstrikes?

5 Stormravens with Assault Cannons and Multi Meltas, psybolt, Hurricaine Bolters-1200

let me just leave this here...
NINE BROADSIDES

this is an interesting excercise, as I notice that we tend to rely on infantry to kill tanks and tanks to kill infantry...fliers seem to be the big choice to kill tanks...

now then, to counter your stormravens:

8 BA vindicators

Pioints?

That could actually be a fight to see.

dbsamurai wrote:are xv9s (which is a totally incorrect numeral rating btw, tau use base 8 so they have no 9) MCs or vehicles? don't really keep up with forgeworld, too expensive and no one ever sells their models on ebay

No, just suits. Amazingly powerful suits.

And the 8-based numeral system is speculation on the part of imperial observers, and either way, these are imperial codenames.

SHAZAM!


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8 BA vindicators

20 Broadsides-1400

im2randomghgh wrote:

20 Broadsides-1400

Thread over. Take anything that is not a horde an stuff it .

Deadshot wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

20 Broadsides-1400

Thread over. Take anything that is not a horde an stuff it .

Fo sho. Plus, with their secondary weapon, they get 80 more shots per turn, plus 20 Str 10 Ap 1 TL shots.

It's also not something that you could reasonably field outside of apocalypse...

Lord_Vader wrote:It's also not something that you could reasonably field outside of apocalypse...

When I have 1400 in my HS slot, it is definately apocalypse.

This doesnt beat 1400 points of suits, but for all those back in the beginning of the thread showing up with single model HQ choices..... i give you...
Chaos Sorcerer Lord w/ MoZ and Gift of Chaos....

Your choices are now irrelevant as they are my pet spawns...and if everything doesnt go according to plan...well I still have 5 attacks with a force weapon for 160 points

quickfuze wrote:This doesnt beat 1400 points of suits, but for all those back in the beginning of the thread showing up with single model HQ choices..... i give you...
Chaos Sorcerer Lord w/ MoZ and Gift of Chaos....

Your choices are now irrelevant as they are my pet spawns...and if everything doesnt go according to plan...well I still have 5 attacks with a force weapon for 160 points

WHy do you have to go lowering the points level? It gets fun with big values.

But I SUPPOSE I could attack with R'alai-225

@R'alai

4 nobs w/ pks, truck w/ read paint -220

rush up and assault

koridon wrote:@R'alai

4 nobs w/ pks, truck w/ read paint -220

rush up and assault

Except he'd destroy their truck with a hyper-density Sabot round, and destroy the rest with his assault 2 blast weapon. Plus, he could take out atleast one in melee, with his 3+/4++ WS4 A3 Flechette discharger and Str 5

im2randomghgh wrote:

koridon wrote:@R'alai

4 nobs w/ pks, truck w/ read paint -220

rush up and assault

Except he'd destroy their truck with a hyper-density Sabot round, and destroy the rest with his assault 2 blast weapon. Plus, he could take out atleast one in melee, with his 3+/4++ WS4 A3 Flechette discharger and Str 5

In that case, destroyers.

3 heavy + 2 normal. 260 points.

Arandmoor wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

koridon wrote:@R'alai

4 nobs w/ pks, truck w/ read paint -220

rush up and assault

Except he'd destroy their truck with a hyper-density Sabot round, and destroy the rest with his assault 2 blast weapon. Plus, he could take out atleast one in melee, with his 3+/4++ WS4 A3 Flechette discharger and Str 5

In that case, destroyers.

3 heavy + 2 normal. 260 points.

R'alai +1 XV9 bodyguard with Fusion Cascades, TA-340

im2randomghgh wrote:

Arandmoor wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

koridon wrote:@R'alai

4 nobs w/ pks, truck w/ read paint -220

rush up and assault

Except he'd destroy their truck with a hyper-density Sabot round, and destroy the rest with his assault 2 blast weapon. Plus, he could take out atleast one in melee, with his 3+/4++ WS4 A3 Flechette discharger and Str 5

In that case, destroyers.

3 heavy + 2 normal. 260 points.

R'alai +1 XV9 bodyguard with Fusion Cascades, TA-340

5 Hammernaters. DS right next to you. 200

p_gray99 wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Arandmoor wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

koridon wrote:@R'alai

4 nobs w/ pks, truck w/ read paint -220

rush up and assault

Except he'd destroy their truck with a hyper-density Sabot round, and destroy the rest with his assault 2 blast weapon. Plus, he could take out atleast one in melee, with his 3+/4++ WS4 A3 Flechette discharger and Str 5

In that case, destroyers.

3 heavy + 2 normal. 260 points.

R'alai +1 XV9 bodyguard with Fusion Cascades, TA-340

5 Hammernaters. DS right next to you. 200

R'alai and his bodyguard win. They have XV9 suits, which means vectored retro-thrusters. The hammernators couldn't hold them in combat, and would never catch them after that, because they're too slow. And with R'alai amazing able-to-do-anything gun, and his guard's 2D3 melta...

GK Libby with Warding Stave, and the following powers

Smite
Vortex of Doom
Might of Titan
Quicksilver
Warp Rift
Sanctuary

Total-215

Deadshot wrote:GK Libby with Warding Stave, and the following powers

Smite
Vortex of Doom
Might of Titan
Quicksilver
Warp Rift
Sanctuary

Total-215

Shas'O R'ym'yr, two shield drones, 2x PR FB TA HWMT Bodyguards-344

I don't aspeak Tua. What is that in English?

Deadshot wrote:I don't aspeak Tua. What is that in English?

This guy: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/r/rmyr2.pdf

With two Shas'vre Bodyguards with Plasma Rifles and melta weapons, who have Targetting array and hardwired multi-tracker, and R'ymyr has two shield drones.

Great. Thanks for the clearing up.

Ironclad Dread with Hurricaine Bolter and Sewismic Hammer wirth Built in Melta gun, Ironclad Assault Launcher (Frag and Defense Grenades) and 2 HK missiles-170

Ironclad Dread with Seismic Hammer and DCCW, with Meltagun (Hammer) and HF(DCCW), Ironclad Ironclad Assult Launchers, 2 HKs-180

Deadshot wrote:Great. Thanks for the clearing up.

Ironclad Dread with Hurricaine Bolter and Sewismic Hammer wirth Built in Melta gun, Ironclad Assault Launcher (Frag and Defense Grenades) and 2 HK missiles-170

Ironclad Dread with Seismic Hammer and DCCW, with Meltagun (Hammer) and HF(DCCW), Ironclad Ironclad Assult Launchers, 2 HKs-180

5 Fire Dragons - (80) points

WHY? Why? You drop from 350 to 80? Why?

And BTW I would still win. I just keep my Hurricaine boplter one far away enough, and fire HK and whatever.

10 Scarabs - 150

darkslife wrote:10 Scarabs - 150

25 Ork Boyz-150

1 Manticore with a heavy flamer - 160

Lord_Vader wrote:1 Manticore with a heavy flamer - 160

3 Broadsides-210

im2randomghgh wrote:

Lord_Vader wrote:1 Manticore with a heavy flamer - 160

3 Broadsides-210

3x 10 outflanking kroot. 210. one of the squads will get close enough for assault.

Tac Termies with Heavy Flamer and a 3 Chainfist-220

Assault termies with polc and furious charge, 215

what's polc?

Pair of lightning claws

This is from the BT codex

ah k

8 pathfinders in a building 192

5 Flamers of tzeentch, ds -195
5 no save flamers templates inbound

koridon wrote:5 Flamers of tzeentch, ds -195
5 no save flamers templates inbound

2x Fusion Cascade XV9 w/ TA- 230

average 8 melta shots per turn, maximum of 12.

30 Hormagaunts with poison. 240 pts.

Tattooed_freak wrote:30 Hormagaunts with poison. 240 pts.

2x XV9s, 1 w/ Phased Ion Guns, TA. 1 w/ Pulse Sub-munitions rifles, TA-240

6 Assault Termies-240

Assuming they all have LC then 10 pathfinders 240

However if some have TH and SS then two LC HWT 210

They are TH/SS. How many models per unit?

Ridealgh wrote:

However if some have TH and SS then two LC HWT 210

5 Canoptek Wraiths with Particle Casters and 1 Whipcoil. 210 points.

Lolki wrote:

Ridealgh wrote:

However if some have TH and SS then two LC HWT 210

5 Canoptek Wraiths with Particle Casters and 1 Whipcoil. 210 points.

3x XV88-210

im2randomghgh wrote:

Lolki wrote:

Ridealgh wrote:

However if some have TH and SS then two LC HWT 210

5 Canoptek Wraiths with Particle Casters and 1 Whipcoil. 210 points.

3x XV88-210

Oh, the many ways of beating these...
4x 10 gretchin + 1 runtherd, 1x 10 gretchin + 2 runtherds. 210. Can't get all of them, your 4 shots each are only 24" range.
WAAAGH!!!

ahhh, killing grots!
I'll have a killa kan with a grotzooka tear them apart

45pts

MrMerlin wrote:ahhh, killing grots!
I'll have a killa kan with a grotzooka tear them apart

45pts

Yeah, somehow I didn't expect the grots to survive long.
Luckily, I brought 3 trueborn including 1 with a dark lance and 2 with splinter pistols/cc weapons. 61

well, that just calls for a farseer with mindwar

like 60 or 70 pts....

Luckily I brought a Pallidin with MC Halberd and MC Stormbolter with Psybolt ammo-85

15 Broadside Battlesuits with Shield Gens in 5 Dquads of 3, scattered all over the board.

is this too expensive or is this too expensive?

5 Predator Annihilators with las-cannon sponsons, hunter killer missiles, 2x storm bolters, and power of the machine spirit.

and if the broadsides where to much, high marshal helbrecht gets the paladin @175 points

Leman Russ Demolisher: 165

eldrad 210

while keeping himself fortuned all the time(rerollable 3++) he walks up to your russ and messes it up with his s9 taff. BAM!

Emprah's Champion with AACNMTO, joined to a unit of 5 Crusaders with chainswords and boltpistols.


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220pts

Vindicator with poms, 155

Vindicare Assassin - 145

p_gray99 wrote:

MrMerlin wrote:ahhh, killing grots!
I'll have a killa kan with a grotzooka tear them apart

45pts

Yeah, somehow I didn't expect the grots to survive long.
Luckily, I brought 3 trueborn including 1 with a dark lance and 2 with splinter pistols/cc weapons. 61

1x XV88 with Plasma and MT-95

im2randomghgh wrote:

p_gray99 wrote:

MrMerlin wrote:ahhh, killing grots!
I'll have a killa kan with a grotzooka tear them apart

45pts

Yeah, somehow I didn't expect the grots to survive long.
Luckily, I brought 3 trueborn including 1 with a dark lance and 2 with splinter pistols/cc weapons. 61

1x XV88 with Plasma and MT-95

a little late to the game me thinks?

Lord Magnus wrote:Vindicare Assassin - 145

1 land speeder squadron w/ assault cannons - 210 pts

Necron Monolith-Old school- 235pts I think

Squad of 10 swooping hawks, exarch w/intercept. 227pts

3 kans with grotzookas for 135. deepstrike and youll get F**ked up!

chaplaincliff wrote:Vindicator with poms, 155

I know nothing about the Parasite of Mortrex riding a Vindicator, but if its there I want it!

Eldar Fire prism + Spirit stones -130p.

farseer with fortune, eldrich storm and singin spear

about 100

MrMerlin wrote:farseer with fortune, eldrich storm and singin spear

about 100

Succubus with agoniser and blast pistol: 100

@ Chaplain cliff, I was late for nothing. I posted the plasma broadside in response to the three trueborns. 1 round of shooting could kill them all.

@ Succubus, 1 Centurion 'El

@ centurion 'El, plasma broadside: 80


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NL_Cirrus wrote:Necron Monolith-Old school- 235pts I think

Sorry, only just saw this, but I think that old school codecies aren't allowed. Otherwise we could make up any old **** and say it's simply from an old codex that no-one can see any more. Also, that monolith was way too few points. Only broadsides could match it, and so it leads to loops.

p_gray99 wrote:@ centurion 'El, plasma broadside: 80

Touché

And plasma broadside is 90.

Anyways, XV9 DS'ing with Fusion cascades-105

p_gray99 wrote:

NL_Cirrus wrote:Necron Monolith-Old school- 235pts I think

Sorry, only just saw this, but I think that old school codecies aren't allowed. Otherwise we could make up any old **** and say it's simply from an old codex that no-one can see any more. Also, that monolith was way too few points. Only broadsides could match it, and so it leads to loops.

Sorry haven't bought new 'dex yet so I don't know what its stats/special rules/point cost is/are.

NL_Cirrus wrote:

p_gray99 wrote:

NL_Cirrus wrote:Necron Monolith-Old school- 235pts I think

Sorry, only just saw this, but I think that old school codecies aren't allowed. Otherwise we could make up any old **** and say it's simply from an old codex that no-one can see any more. Also, that monolith was way too few points. Only broadsides could match it, and so it leads to loops.

Sorry haven't bought new 'dex yet so I don't know what its stats/special rules/point cost is/are.

That's fine. It's now 200pts and it ignores shaken on a 2+, or stunned on a 4+.

im2randomghgh wrote:
And plasma broadside is 90.

Anyways, XV9 DS'ing with Fusion cascades-105

5 sniper scout marines, camo cloaks, 4 sniper rifles + 1 missile launcher. 100pts (I think: I don't do SM). 3+ cover saves, rending, S8 weaponry FTW

x10 Storm troopers with x2 flamers, deep striking with Airborne Assault Spec Op=175pts.

Banzaimash wrote:x10 Storm troopers with x2 flamers, deep striking with Airborne Assault Spec Op=175pts.

175pts versus my 100pts? That's almost twice mine! try again.

Black Templar land speeder typhoon=70pts


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Typhoon missiles-
Range 48", Str5, Ap5 (heavy1, blast, twin linked).
Other armaments include heavy bolter. Armour 10 all round.

Banzaimash wrote:Black Templar land speeder typhoon=70pts


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Typhoon missiles-
Range 48", Str5, Ap5 (heavy1, blast, twin linked).
Other armaments include heavy bolter. Armour 10 all round.

Missile launcher probably beats it when I'm in 3+ cover. Esp. AV 10 all round. I do dark eldar, I know how easy it is to pen. AV 10.

It's true that you will pen on 3's. However, first you must hit the speeder. With a 4+ cover save for moving fully and the fact that your scouts are BS3, the likelihood of you doing me damage with your rocket is less than the likelihood me doing you damage. With my higher strength and more accurate rockets (twin linked at BS4(the BS4 doesn't really make a difference with scatter weapons but still, it helps)) combined with the Str 5 Ap4 HBB. I will destroy your unit within 2-3 turns. You have made the assumption that you are able to deploy in cover and benefit from your camo cloaks, I have assumed contrary to this.

Banzaimash wrote:It's true that you will pen on 3's. However, first you must hit the speeder. With a 4+ cover save for moving fully and the fact that your scouts are BS3, the likelihood of you doing me damage with your rocket is less than the likelihood me doing you damage. With my higher strength and more accurate rockets (twin linked at BS4(the BS4 doesn't really make a difference with scatter weapons but still, it helps)) combined with the Str 5 Ap4 HBB. I will destroy your unit within 2-3 turns. You have made the assumption that you are able to deploy in cover and benefit from your camo cloaks, I have assumed contrary to this.

TBH Str5 is unimpressive to me, as a tau player.

Anyways, it has an AV so BROADSIDES!

2x XV88-140

or for closer to the point of the typhoon, 1 XV88-70

Ouch, hold a second

broadsides? ill field a mindwar and fortune farseer, along with 3 cheapo warlocks+

should be about 140, and s10 ap1 doesnt scratch my rerollable 4++ on all 4 dudes

MrMerlin wrote:broadsides? ill field a mindwar and fortune farseer, along with 3 cheapo warlocks+

should be about 140, and s10 ap1 doesnt scratch my rerollable 4++ on all 4 dudes

2x XV9-150

12 TL Str5 AP5 at BS4 per turn, 4+ invul. save.

Armoured sentinal.w. lascannon-70pts.
(These units are roughly even, because if your weapon hits the sentinal, it'll blast it into next week; likewise with my lascannon to your suit. Both have the same BS, and while you have the missile pods which can potentially wreck the scout at 24" range, I would and could easily avoid this range radius and maintain fire upon you).


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Banzaimash wrote:Armoured sentinal.w. lascannon-70pts.
(These units are roughly even, because if your weapon hits the sentinal, it'll blast it into next week; likewise with my lascannon to your suit. Both have the same BS, and while you have the missile pods which can potentially wreck the scout at 24" range, I would and could easily avoid this range radius and maintain fire upon you).


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Sorry, took too long in typing.

What were you responding too?

Oh and XV88 broadside.

T5=no ID, whereas one round of shooting from my railguns mean the end of your sentinel.

They're T4 on the GW website (I don't have the Tau codex).

Banzaimash wrote:They're T4 on the GW website (I don't have the Tau codex).

I may have confused them with XV9s, but i'm not sure. I seem to have misplaced my dex.

im2randomghgh wrote:
2x XV9-150

12 TL Str5 AP5 at BS4 per turn, 4+ invul. save.

Haemonculus with hexrifle joined to unit of 6 wracks and an acothyst with a hexrifle=150pts.

Banzaimash wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
2x XV9-150

12 TL Str5 AP5 at BS4 per turn, 4+ invul. save.

Haemonculus with hexrifle joined to unit of 6 wracks and an acothyst with a hexrifle=150pts.

2x XV9s with PIGs-190

Now it's 16 shots per turn.

30 Man Death Company all equipped with Jump Packs, 5 Thunder hammers and 20 PWs.

1500pts

(If you read it says keep it up to 1500 points. Am I the only person who realises this, correct me if I am mistaken)

What's PIG's? :S




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BlapBlapBlap wrote:30 Man Death Company all equipped with Jump Packs, 5 Thunder hammers and 15 PWs.

How many points is that?

1500 on the nose.

Abbadon the despoiler- 275

Some form of Titan.

(I know its not allowed but neither are 1500 point units)

im2randomghgh wrote:

Banzaimash wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
2x XV9-150

12 TL Str5 AP5 at BS4 per turn, 4+ invul. save.

Haemonculus with hexrifle joined to unit of 6 wracks and an acothyst with a hexrifle=150pts.

2x XV9s with PIGs-190

Now it's 16 shots per turn.

BT Vindicator with PotMS, Hunter Killer, Extra Armour, Pintle Storm bolter and smoke launcher= 188pts.

TWO vindicators. Plus 5 spezz mehreens and a spechul spezz mehreen wif a sooper spechul weapon!

It says up to 1500 point units in the OP.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:It says up to 1500 point units in the OP.

Yeah but you can't go right from 190 to 1500.


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Banzaimash wrote:What's PIG's? :S

Phased Ion Guns.


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Banzaimash wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Banzaimash wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:
2x XV9-150

12 TL Str5 AP5 at BS4 per turn, 4+ invul. save.

Haemonculus with hexrifle joined to unit of 6 wracks and an acothyst with a hexrifle=150pts.

2x XV9s with PIGs-190

Now it's 16 shots per turn.

BT Vindicator with PotMS, Hunter Killer, Extra Armour, Pintle Storm bolter and smoke launcher= 188pts.

Hammer head with Railgun, MT, DP, 2x Seeker Missiles, BC-210

LR Vanquisher .w. Pask=205pts

Banzaimash wrote:LR Vanquisher .w. Pask=205pts

TBH I can't see that beating the Hammerhead.

Either way 2x Broadsides-210

Nothing with an AV can beat an equivalent amount of point in broadsides. Win.

Ok, change from my last post:

10 DC with 1 TH and 5 PW.

I am certain this is below 500 pts.

i think there are too many broadsides in this thread, and all this XV2375xvyccXV this'nthis confuses me.....

MrMerlin wrote:i think there are too many broadsides in this thread, and all this XV2375xvyccXV this'nthis confuses me.....

True. Then again, Space Communists probably have to talk in numbers just to understand what all the different races are saying.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Banzaimash wrote:LR Vanquisher .w. Pask=205pts

TBH I can't see that beating the Hammerhead.

Either way 2x Broadsides-210

Nothing with an AV can beat an equivalent amount of point in broadsides. Win.

Armoured sentinals .c. lascannons x3 =210. You pen sentinals on 3's, I kill broadsides ID on 2's. Both units hitb on 4+, however your weapons are twin linked but I have one more gun than you. As for your glancing missiles, at 72" sentinals can easily stay out of range of the 24" missile range. Also, Sentinals can move and shoot, though I'm not so sure about Broadsides (correct me if i'm wrong). All in all, it would result in a close long range firefight.

8 warp spiders, exarch w/deep strike and dual spinners. That would be 18 str 6 shots, quick and dirty. 201pts

6 Sternguard,all with Combi Meltas, in a Drop Pod-215

Oh and XV88 broadside.

T5=no ID, whereas one round of shooting from my railguns mean the end of your sentinel.

A broadside does have a t4, i know cause I ID them all the time with s8 weapons,

Armoured sentinals .c. lascannons x3 =210. You pen sentinals on 3's, I kill broadsides ID on 2's. Both units hitb on 4+, however your weapons are twin linked but I have one more gun than you. As for your glancing missiles, at 72" sentinals can easily stay out of range of the 24" missile range. Also, Sentinals can move and shoot, though I'm not so sure about Broadsides (correct me if i'm wrong). All in all, it would result in a close long range firefight.

They can only move and fire if they take auto-stablization sytem for 10 points which gives them slow and purposeful

Banzaimash wrote:It's true that you will pen on 3's. However, first you must hit the speeder. With a 4+ cover save for moving fully and the fact that your scouts are BS3, the likelihood of you doing me damage with your rocket is less than the likelihood me doing you damage. With my higher strength and more accurate rockets (twin linked at BS4(the BS4 doesn't really make a difference with scatter weapons but still, it helps)) combined with the Str 5 Ap4 HBB. I will destroy your unit within 2-3 turns. You have made the assumption that you are able to deploy in cover and benefit from your camo cloaks, I have assumed contrary to this.

With a recomended 25% of the board being cover (BRB p. 88) I should be able to get cover, in which case I win.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Banzaimash wrote:It's true that you will pen on 3's. However, first you must hit the speeder. With a 4+ cover save for moving fully and the fact that your scouts are BS3, the likelihood of you doing me damage with your rocket is less than the likelihood me doing you damage. With my higher strength and more accurate rockets (twin linked at BS4(the BS4 doesn't really make a difference with scatter weapons but still, it helps)) combined with the Str 5 Ap4 HBB. I will destroy your unit within 2-3 turns. You have made the assumption that you are able to deploy in cover and benefit from your camo cloaks, I have assumed contrary to this.

TBH Str5 is unimpressive to me, as a tau player.

Anyways, it has an AV so BROADSIDES!

2x XV88-140

or for closer to the point of the typhoon, 1 XV88-70

Yh, broadsides do get boring after a while, which is why I tried something different.
Killing them, however, never gets boring. Against one, I'll go for the scouts again, this time with no missile launcher or camo cloaks, but the serg has a power weapon. 90 (I think). outflanking.

koridon wrote:They can only move and fire if they take auto-stablization sytem for 10 points which gives them slow and purposeful

There is no auto-stabilization in the codex.


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p_gray99 wrote:With a recomended 25% of the board being cover (BRB p. 88) I should be able to get cover, in which case I win.

Even if you are in cover, you do not 'win', you merely even the playing field.


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Do the scouts still have snipers?

20 Grey Knights Paladins w/halberds in 2 Ravens with Heavy Bolter and Assault Cannons.


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MOOOOO!

koridon wrote:
They can only move and fire if they take auto-stablization sytem for 10 points which gives them slow and purposeful

Banzaimash wrote
There is no auto-stabilization in the codex.

Advanced stabilisation system pg 25 dex

The broadside team members must choose 1 battle suit support system PG40

points? But i gues ill get like 40 pk-toting nobs for that, at about 1500pts

Overkill


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koridon wrote:Advanced stabilisation system pg 25 dex

It's not in the army list section of the book where the points are listed. It's not in the bestiary. I don't have p25.

DreadlordME! wrote:20 Grey Knights Paladins w/halberds in 2 Ravens with Heavy Bolter and Assault Cannons.


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MOOOOO!

Illegal. You may only select 1 type of units, so Paladins, and then a dedicated transport. And apparrently there is a ban on AV total of 35+.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

MrMerlin wrote:i think there are too many broadsides in this thread, and all this XV2375xvyccXV this'nthis confuses me.....

True. Then again, Space Communists probably have to talk in numbers just to understand what all the different races are saying.

]

XVwhat?


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MrMerlin wrote:points? But i gues ill get like 40 pk-toting nobs for that, at about 1500pts

'

20 XV9s-1500

im2randomghgh wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:

MrMerlin wrote:i think there are too many broadsides in this thread, and all this XV2375xvyccXV this'nthis confuses me.....

True. Then again, Space Communists probably have to talk in numbers just to understand what all the different races are saying.

]

XVwhat?


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MrMerlin wrote:points? But i gues ill get like 40 pk-toting nobs for that, at about 1500pts

'

20 XV9s-1500

!?

hmpf!, ill send 10 fortuned farseers with mindwar, spirit stones and 20 cheapo warlocks!

10 thousand sons with wind of chaos

How much are the thousand sons worth? How about three scatter laser war walkers with a guide seer and runes of warding? 270

seapheonix wrote:How much are the thousand sons worth? How about three scatter laser war walkers with a guide seer and runes of warding? 270

8 Tau pathfinders, 3 railrifles.
Devilfish with SMS, Disruption Pod, 2x Seeker Missiles-259...or 279. Forget the cost of seeker missiles, lost codex.

im2randomghgh wrote:

seapheonix wrote:How much are the thousand sons worth? How about three scatter laser war walkers with a guide seer and runes of warding? 270

8 Tau pathfinders, 3 railrifles.
Devilfish with SMS, Disruption Pod, 2x Seeker Missiles-259...or 279. Forget the cost of seeker missiles, lost codex.

They're 10pts each.
In other news, your whole army was smashed apart by 5 hammernators for 200pts
Deep Striking

3 crisis battlesuits with 3plasma rifles, 3Burstcannons, 2multitrackers, one targeting array, one TeamLeader, one hardwired multi tracker, one hardwierd drone controler and two MarkerDrones for a 249 pts to you, p_gray99

5 Dark reapers w/exarch tempest launcher, crack shot, fast shot. 237 points.

seapheonix wrote:5 Dark reapers w/exarch tempest launcher, crack shot, fast shot. 237 points.

3x XV9 w/ PIG -285

Da Orkies want some funz!

5x 30 Ork boyz with PK nobz 1075

DreadlordME! wrote:Da Orkies want some funz!

5x 30 Ork boyz with PK nobz 1075

That's almost 4 times the previous points?...

20 x 10 IG squads with flamers.
Meet Rapid fire death!

1100 points.

Maximum of 5 units plus transports, so the orks are the last legal unit(s).

5 Squadrons of 3 Land Speeders with 2 HF-900


Suicide Pryomaniacal drive by death of flaming doom!!!!!

Huge points gets crazy quick. What is an XV9 PIG? I don't think they are throwing hooved swine, but I could be wrong.

seapheonix wrote:Huge points gets crazy quick. What is an XV9 PIG? I don't think they are throwing hooved swine, but I could be wrong.

XV9 hazard suits with two Phased Ion Guns. Assault 8 rending, for the pair.


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Deadshot wrote:Maximum of 5 units plus transports, so the orks are the last legal unit(s).

5 Squadrons of 3 Land Speeders with 2 HF-900


Suicide Pryomaniacal drive by death of flaming doom!!!!!

3x5 XV88 w/ TA-1200

10x 10 Wyches with two hydra gauntlets per unit, running at you!

A unit of 3 hellstrike-valkyries, shooting at you

390

What AT have they got? dreadnought with MM, 125? Make that 3 of them, 375? something like that, anyway. Running at you then shooting at you.

p_gray99 wrote:What AT have they got? dreadnought with MM, 125? Make that 3 of them, 375? something like that, anyway. Running at you then shooting at you.

i still have multilasers (s6 3shots), so i can wreck your rear!

MrMerlin wrote: so i can wreck your rear!

Dirty....

Anyways, 3 squadrons of 2 MM landspeeders, deepstriking. 360 pts.

2 Squads of 5 fire dragons both w/wave serpents and shuricannons. 360 points.

@ Landspeeders- 10 Trueborn w/ 4 Blasters and 2 Dark Lances-230

TheAngrySquig wrote:10 Trueborn w/ 4 Blasters and 2 Dark Lances-230

10 Tac Marines in a Rhino - 200

Zweischneid wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:10 Trueborn w/ 4 Blasters and 2 Dark Lances-230

10 Tac Marines in a Rhino - 200

2x Fireknife Shas'ui, 1x Shas'vre with drone controller and 2x Shield drones, TA on all suits-246

im2randomghgh wrote:

Zweischneid wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:10 Trueborn w/ 4 Blasters and 2 Dark Lances-230

10 Tac Marines in a Rhino - 200

2x Fireknife Shas'ui, 1x Shas'vre with drone controller and 2x Shield drones, TA on all suits-246

1x Space Marine Landraider - 250

Legion of the Damned squad; multimelta, melta gun, combi melta, 215 pts.

30 ork boys with pk-nob

215

10 purifiers with 2 incinerators-200pts


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MrMerlin wrote:30 ork boys with pk-nob

215

2x Railhead-320


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MrMerlin wrote:30 ork boys with pk-nob

215

43 IG-215

im2randomghgh wrote:
43 IG-215

2 - 5 man seraphim Squads w/ 2x dual hand flamers - 240 pts

Death Company Dreadnought in Drop Pod with Blood Talons, Heavy Flamer and Magna Grapple: 185pts

BlapBlapBlap wrote:Death Company Dreadnought in Drop Pod with Blood Talons, Heavy Flamer and Magna Grapple: 185pts

SoB Squad in Rhino w/ 2melta guns / Sister Superior with Combi-Melta - 210 pts

mef989 wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:Death Company Dreadnought in Drop Pod with Blood Talons, Heavy Flamer and Magna Grapple: 185pts

SoB Squad in Rhino w/ 2melta guns / Sister Superior with Combi-Melta - 210 pts

Shas'O R'alai-225

im2randomghgh wrote:

mef989 wrote:

BlapBlapBlap wrote:Death Company Dreadnought in Drop Pod with Blood Talons, Heavy Flamer and Magna Grapple: 185pts

SoB Squad in Rhino w/ 2melta guns / Sister Superior with Combi-Melta - 210 pts

Shas'O R'alai-225

2 Lash / Wings Daemon Princes - 310

Avatar leading a squad of 10 striking scorpions, exarch w/chain sabres.

332 points.

Posted a moment ago and three people had already beaten the unit I was beating.

seapheonix wrote:Avatar leading a squad of 10 striking scorpions, exarch w/chain sabres.

332 points.

Posted a moment ago and three people had already beaten the unit I was beating.

Meh.




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Oh, and 22 Vespids, just to change things up-330

im2randomghgh wrote:

seapheonix wrote:Avatar leading a squad of 10 striking scorpions, exarch w/chain sabres.

332 points.

Posted a moment ago and three people had already beaten the unit I was beating.

Meh.




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20 Genestealer w/ toxin sacs 340points

2x 5 man squads of flamers of tzeentch -350

ds and burn

Necron Monolith - 200 pts

DrakDarkstar wrote:Necron Monolith - 200 pts

Can't use it. Total AV 34 max.

But either way,

3x Broadside w/ TA-240

I still think broadides show up waaay too often. against them id send 40 guardsman with a plasma gun for every 10 dudes

260

MrMerlin wrote:I still think broadides show up waaay too often. against them id send 40 guardsman with a plasma gun for every 10 dudes

260

Yh, that's why we decided on a max vehicle av. Anyway, 2x Talos w/ chain-flails, extra c.c. weapon, twin heat lances: 270. You have 4 guys capable of wounding me, and as soon as I'm in combat, goodbye.

p_gray99 wrote:

MrMerlin wrote:I still think broadides show up waaay too often. against them id send 40 guardsman with a plasma gun for every 10 dudes

260

Yh, that's why we decided on a max vehicle av. Anyway, 2x Talos w/ chain-flails, extra c.c. weapon, twin heat lances: 270. You have 4 guys capable of wounding me, and as soon as I'm in combat, goodbye.

3 warrior acolytes w/melta guns, 3 servitors w/ multi-meltas and 6 jakaero weaponsmiths.-282pts

30 Devilgaunts-300

Deadshot wrote:30 Devilgaunts-300

10 Striking scorpions-exarch w/ biting blade-187pts

5 Purifiers with Psybolt in a Rhino-180

Deadshot wrote:30 Devilgaunts-300

12 FW w/ D-fish w/SMS, Flechette Dischargers-225

4 PF w/ D-fish w/ SMS-148

373 points of BS5 goodness.

Deadshot wrote:5 Purifiers with Psybolt in a Rhino-180

10 Banshees-exarch w/executioner-187

5 Trueborn with 2 splinter cannons, 3 shardcarbines, and a venom with 2 SC's, 160 pts.

Rocky1 wrote:

Deadshot wrote:5 Purifiers with Psybolt in a Rhino-180

10 Banshees-exarch w/executioner-187

WTF you skipped my post how dare you!


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O'Shassera-170

3 Zoanthropes 180

Farseer with fortune, mind war, spirit stones, runes of warding. 155pts

30 Hormaguant 180

Leman Russ demolisher: 165 points.