The Sisters of Battle are a varied force, with members hailing from across the galaxy in pursuit of holy war. This time around, we’ve been able to represent that with a range of characterful new faces you’ll be able to include in your army.
If you’re a die-hard Adepta Sororitas fan with an army ready and waiting to go for the new edition, we’ve got even more exciting news. We want to nail every aspect of this release, from models to rules – and to do that, we’re asking for the help of the biggest, best playtesting group in the world.
You.
This year’s Chapter Approved will feature a beta codex for the Adepta Sororitas – and we’re inviting you to try it out. You’ll have access to a huge pool of units, Stratagems, Relics and Warlord Traits to represent the orders of the Adepta Sororitas in your games – and your feedback on how you find them will help us make the final codex as awesome as it can possibly be.
That is definitely my favorite helmet in 40k, glad to see it return looking good as ever. I'm probably gonna skip the chapter approved as I don't play 8th right now. I'm also not interested in paying to beta test an army I don't currently own. It's still good they are trying to get them right though. I will get the kill team for them, at the very least.
Manchu wrote:The short hair head is the only one I don't like. Everything else is between good and great. The open-face sallet is amazing.
Funny, if you squared off that jaw it would look exactly like I do when I grow my bangs out to the utmost limit of military hairstyle. I need that thing to make a new Crimson Fists Captain.
Past that, this is going to be the catalyst of me finally getting a Sisters army.
OMC, open sabbat helmet! Always pictured those as being just one piece, but they actually do open! And the hooded one looks old and grizzled, really nice touch!
The second to last is VERY awesome! Angry, spiteful, scornful sister is disgusted by what a waste of heretic pile of disgusting grox manure you are, and is second aways from spiting on your corpse after riddiling your body with bolts. She really really hates you. (You is not streetsamurai here, it's whatever enemy model she is currently facing, whether it's some disgusting genestealer cultist, some disgusting chaos cultist, some disgusting space marine that refuse the supremacy of the Ecclesiarchal dogma, some disgusting eldar xenos with their disgusting bodies, anyone really )
Automatically Appended Next Post: Manchu forgot to include this bit of text:
Here’s a little peek behind the curtain at some early designs for the visages of the faithful – from pious initiates to battle-hardened Sisters Superior.
(Emphasis mine) This REALLY looks like them dropping a hint about some new initiate/rookie sister unit! Bet they will be the one with the short hairs!
I guess heads without context are better than bolters without context. Gives Sisters a face, at least.
Still waiting to get an idea of new Repentias...
I have my doubts about the beta list, too. Given GW's usual paranoid secrecy, does anybody expect to get any new units in that list? They'll get some playtesting in for units that exist in metal and for which they should already have plenty of data, but don't want us to know what new stuff we'll get with the codex so half of it may end up reasonably balanced and the other half, well, guess it's balance lottery time again.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: OMC, open sabbat helmet! Always pictured those as being just one piece, but they actually do open!
First Sister to figure out the visor opens. First Sister to get shot in the face through open visor.
Here’s a little peek behind the curtain at some early designs for the visages of the faithful – from pious initiates to battle-hardened Sisters Superior.
(Emphasis mine)
This REALLY looks like them dropping a hint about some new initiate/rookie sister unit! Bet they will be the one with the short hairs!
New unit or following the Black Templar approach. I wonder if we'll get lighter armor equivalent to Scouts for them, too. With short hair like that (which is cool, by the way), they're already out of uniform. May as well do something new with their gear.
I'm not much a fan of the faces, but that's pretty much my opinion for all models so it isn't a particular critique of the Sisters release. The helmet looks as good as I expected of it so if I do end up grabbing Sisters I will likely run all of them with the helmets on.
I think it's great we are seeing this stuff so early on and I agree that a Beta Codex is a smart move from GW - it seems like they are taking a new approach to this army by collecting feedback at the production stage.
However I like these heads, but I don't love them. I expected a bit more but then again these are early stage concepts and they are unpainted.
The female heads in the new Stormcast Eternals range are lovely though and I was hoping for something similar.
And I think the last head is intended to be non-caucasion. It's nice to see them adding diversity but I think this one needs some work.
I also think the helmet heads need to be ever so slightly bigger - they look a bit too small compared to non-helmeted heads.
Ohhh. That's some very promising stuff. I really like the wimple & the helmet (I green-stuffed hoods on all of mine, except the Celestians, who i used Helms for as much as possible).
I love the variety on show here. I think you could go through Raging Heroes' entire catalogue without finding a third as many different face types and ages.
If you look at the neck stumps, about five of the nine faces here appear to be facing dead foreward, I think those ones are still work in progress (possibly excluding the helmets), especially the last one, very symmetrical.
Though maybe they're just the standard battle sisters.
Also, that neck stump is very space marine compatible. In case you want to make a power armoured lady inquisitor in astartes armour or troll space marine players in general.
Will definitely pick up the chapter approved beta codex, though I'm considering selling off my metals sooner rather than later...
They are all mostly look ugly. Some are interesting as idea for a character like the battle grandma, but that's not what I would stick to every plastic body in the army for sure.
I was watching some tributes to SOB on you tube and I find I like the ones with scars. I like the variety in those heads, but I hope they do another 10 or 20. They do need a few neutral/serene to go with the angry though.
kestral wrote: They do need a few neutral/serene to go with the angry though.
Yeah, these are pretty good but an extra stoic looking one or two would be nice. Why is everyone so angry?
Also, I really like that they have one with a habit, in addition to the helmeted ones.
Both this and the last preview have been very limited. It's probably just been the goal to preview angry nuns with guns to make a certain impression. Kind of like a theme to the preview. I don't doubt there will be many more heads available with different expressions.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:The canoness and the last one don't seem that angry to me.
Yeah, I mean, I was being hyperbolic, I realize that not all of them look angry, but the majority of them do.
Geifer wrote:Both this and the last preview have been very limited. It's probably just been the goal to preview angry nuns with guns to make a certain impression. Kind of like a theme to the preview. I don't doubt there will be many more heads available with different expressions.
Good point, I sure hope so. It would make sense, but that doesn't always translate to real results. The proportion isn't really off that of the metal ones though, so I'd hope they will at least have enough of each option that one could choose for the most part. I, of course, mis-remembered their general look, because it's been quite a long time since I dusted off my metal ones, really.
Shadenuat wrote: They are all mostly look ugly. Some are interesting as idea for a character like the battle grandma, but that's not what I would stick to every plastic body in the army for sure.
Ugly as in not well done? I think they really good. Or is it ugly as in not sexy?
Eye patch girl looks like her bangs are way too short. Short hair girl looks like Robin the boy wonder. I hope they have more hoods than just the old gal. Fine for Canoness types but I would think younger Sisters might sport the habit(?). Seraphim hand flamer girls and my converted inferno seraphim, as well as a meltagun girl have breather masks as well. Love the helmets. Angry girl would be too much if it was more than maybe just one in the bunch.
Really just don't like the short haired one.
Hoping they put some together with the girls singing. They are supposed to sing prayers as they fight, would be nice to see that in the figs.
I wonder if they’ll release the models with the beta-dex. I doubt it, but it would be cool if they did. I think it would get a lot more people giving feedback if they did.
godswildcard wrote: I wonder if they’ll release the models with the beta-dex. I doubt it, but it would be cool if they did. I think it would get a lot more people giving feedback if they did.
They won’t, because the army is coming in 2019 and CA2018 is coming this year. So, no.
godswildcard wrote: I wonder if they’ll release the models with the beta-dex. I doubt it, but it would be cool if they did. I think it would get a lot more people giving feedback if they did.
Seems unlikely they will have much of anything done and in production by then, though we might see that individual one shown at the WHF a while back get released alongside the chapter approved.
The hooded older sister need to be converted to have a bell and robes so I can march around a gaming room, placing it on tabletops where cheesy lists are played and chanting 'Shame, Shame, Shame'
Also, massive bonus for all non sisters players on this forum, it will keep them quiet for at least 24 hours in the new ork codex thread.
endlesswaltz123 wrote: The hooded older sister need to be converted to have a bell and robes so I can march around a gaming room, placing it on tabletops where cheesy lists are played and chanting 'Shame, Shame, Shame'
Also, massive bonus for all non sisters players on this forum, it will keep them quiet for at least 24 hours in the new work codex thread.
please, you know that the codex'll be released for less then an hour before someone posts a thread saying how much the codex sucks. That happens with EVERY codex
godswildcard wrote: I wonder if they’ll release the models with the beta-dex. I doubt it, but it would be cool if they did. I think it would get a lot more people giving feedback if they did.
They won’t, because the army is coming in 2019 and CA2018 is coming this year. So, no.
Ok. Gotcha. Didn’t realize it was coming later this year. Had February in my head for some reason.
Man, while some of these look interesting, and I really like the ideas on show, and am generally just hyped for anything sisters...
...god almighty does the sculptor actually need to look at some noses from the real world.
I'd also really like if they kept the metal-era style of the sisters having slightly 'longer' (not sure if this is the right word) facial proportions, to give them a slightly more noble aura.
AND my god. Top middle. Sister Not-allowed-scissors-unsupervised is grinning like a toddler who's shat their pants, probably because she's just given herself that godawful haircut.
Surely you're only allowed to smile in 40k if you're slaaneshi, or you've got a harlequin mask strapped to your face?
godswildcard wrote: I wonder if they’ll release the models with the beta-dex. I doubt it, but it would be cool if they did. I think it would get a lot more people giving feedback if they did.
They won’t, because the army is coming in 2019 and CA2018 is coming this year. So, no.
Ok. Gotcha. Didn’t realize it was coming later this year. Had February in my head for some reason.
One of the first previews was a full render of a SoB and if I recall they were gonna release a single mini before the release. It is possible that we might get a single mini release with the chapter approved 2018.
This Battle Sister will be the first you’ll be able to get your hands on, a special preview release ahead of the main wave to make the wait a little bit more bearable. We can’t say when just yet, but stay tuned to Warhammer Community to find out as soon as we have a date.
posermcbogus wrote: AND my god. Top middle. Sister Not-allowed-scissors-unsupervised is grinning like a toddler who's shat their pants, probably because she's just given herself that godawful haircut.
Surely you're only allowed to smile in 40k if you're slaaneshi, or you've got a harlequin mask strapped to your face?
Becky with the bad hair is grimacing, not smiling.
godswildcard wrote: I wonder if they’ll release the models with the beta-dex. I doubt it, but it would be cool if they did. I think it would get a lot more people giving feedback if they did.
They won’t, because the army is coming in 2019 and CA2018 is coming this year. So, no.
Ok. Gotcha. Didn’t realize it was coming later this year. Had February in my head for some reason.
One of the first previews was a full render of a SoB and if I recall they were gonna release a single mini before the release. It is possible that we might get a single mini release with the chapter approved 2018.
This Battle Sister will be the first you’ll be able to get your hands on, a special preview release ahead of the main wave to make the wait a little bit more bearable. We can’t say when just yet, but stay tuned to Warhammer Community to find out as soon as we have a date.
I hope not, I need to whip up "me" models for all my armies. I'm betting that head would look fantastic on an Empire model. After I gently sand down the point on the chin, that is.
endlesswaltz123 wrote: The hooded older sister need to be converted to have a bell and robes so I can march around a gaming room, placing it on tabletops where cheesy lists are played and chanting 'Shame, Shame, Shame'
Also, massive bonus for all non sisters players on this forum, it will keep them quiet for at least 24 hours in the new work codex thread.
please, you know that the codex'll be released for less then an hour before someone posts a thread saying how much the codex sucks. That happens with EVERY codex
Yeah. Every codex has been labeled "horrible" since the days of 3rd edition and the GW forums.
Yeah, the original "Becky" looks like she's bearing her teeth in anger, whereas the flipped shot looks like she's just seen the bathroom stall after Sister Nurgle went through it.
I'm liking the heads of the new SOB so far, they look realistic and like women. Hopefully they'll keep to that and avoid any of the fan-servicey BS you see in third party versions of the SOB.
They look pretty good. I've always hated the doll haircuts, but these heads look much more combat veteran-like than their predecessors. All in all, the model range looks like an iteration in the right direction, even if combat heels and boob armor are still in. Little steps.
Yeah, I don't know why people have the idea that SoB have combat heels. Yes, the Blanche picture does, but that's a stylized piece of art work that never showed up again. Its an outlier, not a standard.
The actual models do not have heels.
Most of the artwork does have have heels.
Ergo, there are no combat heels.
If they end up like this, i'll be more than content. I don't want to see them have stiletto heels or whatever. But a raised boot heel, somewhat like what the female stormcasts have is good. I want them to be feminine, because if you remove qualities that show that they are female at this scale then they will end up looking way off. I found the sisters of silence to be almost too flat footed, which sucks cause the best art of them by sam wall has them in goth boots. This isn't real life and some stylization is fine by me. I feel like whenever a sisters thread pops up somehow heels become a discussion, it gets old.
Veridyan is based in an artwork that has combat hells. It is an homenage.
The Inquisitor is an Inquisitor and inquisitors always wear fancy armours and clothes.
The normal models wear normal boots
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But I know this is pointless, because your job is to find assertions made by others users, Irbis, and then, in the most pedantic and many times twisted and elaborated of ways, prove them wrong.
Personally I really dislike combat heels, because I dislike heels in general. Something of a higher boot, thats ok, but stilleto heels... eh no.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Yeah, I don't know why people have the idea that SoB have combat heels. Yes, the Blanche picture does, but that's a stylized piece of art work that never showed up again. Its an outlier, not a standard.
The actual models do not have heels.
Most of the artwork does have have heels.
Ergo, there are no combat heels.
Because people have confirmation bias. They assume one thing and find one photo of one or two characters and immedately assume it.
Now I do hope that they have versions without the metal breasts and just a straight armor or cojoined center. It would be aesthetically pleasing, fun, and could allow people to model it however they want. Allowing people the option to green stuff that in.
Sister heads I think need longer hair versions / variety in what hair styles they can have personally.
You already have that option. You can greenstuff your models to whatever idiosyncratic preferences you have for alternative Sisters. Let's just have Sisters of Battle that look like actual Sisters of Battle and people who want something else can model it, rather than the other way around.
You already have that option. You can greenstuff your models to whatever idiosyncratic preferences you have for alternative Sisters. Let's just have Sisters of Battle that look like actual Sisters of Battle and people who want something else can model it, rather than the other way around.
I think personally they need to update the design alittle bit to fit the new theme the imperium and most of its warmachine is going for. It'd be a nice to see the originals but in plastic but something in new direction or a different take would be interesting.
While i agree they can just 'greenstuff' in the new aesthetic doesn't really match with the older models.
GW doing them in plastic will hopefully allow them to develop something more of a sci-fi vibe while also giving them interesting equipment that only they can equip.
While I wouldn't mind a joined breastplate like the one the blackshield stormcast had in shadespire i'd much prefer they kept with the traditional look. But lets say a sprue had 5 chestplates, if one was joined like angarad blackshields I wouldn't complain but anything more than that and it's like why. And I thought sob were supposed to be in a religious cult/ecclesiarchy, and as such more repressed than even your average imperial soldier. So individuality in hairstyles is not something i'm too interested in. I prefer subtlety over making each one a snowflake. And for that reason I think that top middle head needs to go. I think the sculptor needs to think about fixing some of those noses and constipated expressions before worrying about giving them any kind of individuality...individuality that was never part of this armies look to begin with.
Thargrim wrote: And for that reason I think that top middle head needs to go.
That one (Becky) is the worst.
I agree that uniformity of appearance makes sense for a religious order. It's why IRL orders wear habits, after all. OTOH I really like (for example) Sister Eyepatch. She looks amazing. The downside is, Sister Eyepatch's distinctuve monocular countenace is better for a named special character than as a head on a squad sprue, such that we must conclude that approximately 1 in 10 Sororitas have lost vision in their left eye due to workplace hazards.
Male religious also wear habits. Habits generally are worn to show membership in the order, like any uniform. Aside from that, there ar considerations of modesty and asceticism. But Thargrim's point about uniformity is dead-on, insofar as Sisters echo IRL religious imagery.
As to noses, I find renders give smaller details a somewhat fuzzy look compared to pics of actual models. It's why compnies that never or rarely get around to showing anything but renders are so frustrating.
"Make them look modern and tacticool, like CODBLOPS Future Grunters 17 - The Engruntening, Part 3."
No. Nope. Naw. Nuhuh. Nein. Nee. Nae. Votch.
Sisters are gothic space nuns with guns. Period. End of. There are so, so many utter generic Mass HALO Effect Angular Future Snorefest settings out there, 40K does not need to turn into that guff.
Yodhrin wrote: Sisters are gothic space nuns with guns. Period. End of. There are so, so many utter generic Mass HALO Effect Angular Future Snorefest settings out there, 40K does not need to turn into that guff.
This 100%. Give us bob cuts, flur-de-lys boob plate and godwyn-diaz pattern boltguns or don't give us anything at all.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Yeah, I don't know why people have the idea that SoB have combat heels. Yes, the Blanche picture does, but that's a stylized piece of art work that never showed up again. Its an outlier, not a standard.
The actual models do not have heels.
Most of the artwork does have have heels.
Ergo, there are no combat heels.
Maybe they are thinking of Hitman Cosplay (Nuns with Guns). But I agree that flat boots for SOB won´t cut it. The new female Stormcast wear wedge plate boots and imo they would look great on the new SOB. HQ & elite SOB units on the other hand would benefit from combat heels to show their increased status.
GW of today is not afraid to give some of their models a subtle boost in sex appeal by handing out high heels which is a good decision. Just think of the new Eschers & Inquisitor Greyfax.
I OTOH I really like (for example) Sister Eyepatch. She looks amazing. The downside is, Sister Eyepatch's distinctuve monocular countenace is better for a named special character than as a head on a squad sprue, such that we must conclude that approximately 1 in 10 Sororitas have lost vision in their left eye due to workplace hazards.
If you read the article, those heads are just examples of different heads for different units. They aren't just heads for the normal SOB-squad. Some of them are for normal sisters, others (I assume, like the eyepatch sister) are for HQ's, etc...
But, at the same time, even if you have one Sister with a cyber-eyepatch in every normal sob-squad sprue... whats the problem? Is that different from having one space marine with a ciber eye or a mohawk in every sprue? Does that means every space marine in 10 wears a mohak or a ciber eye? Ideally, they would give us, like Primaris, 22 heads per squad (10 helmets, 10 normal heads, 2 Sargeats heads). I know people will say, that will occupy much space in the sprue... but I disagree. For me, heads are probably the most important part in a miniature, thats why they are so popular in 3rd party sites. I prefer more heads to personalice and less... pouches, or grenades, or purity seals, etc... and I like Sisters of Battle to have different hair sstyles, even if the bob-cut (My favourite to be honest) remains the more popular, and they all retain some cohesion (YOu don't have sisters of battle with very long hair, etc...)
Also, I at the same time agree and disagree with the uniformity discussion. I want my SOB to look like a cohesive, religious order army. At the same time, I don't want them to look all exactly the same but with different poses (Like primaris marines do, or Imperial Guard). I believe theres a middle ground between uniformity and individual personality without reaching Space Marines levels of individuality with individual pieces of different marks of armour inside a tactical squad, etc...
They are a religious organization, so I don't think some sprinkles here and there are out of place. They need to show their status inside the Empire.
Just because they're enthusiastic gothic space nuns doesn't mean they can't have differences! Personally I'd love to see the option for variability between different orders so the Sisters of the Immolated Lilly can rock a different look to the Order of the Flaming Bush, or you can keep a unified 'modern classic' look.
As for the heads, that type of render rarely shows how the actual model would look, plus what makes a good mini sculpt often doesn't make a good render, particularly when dealing with the exaggerated proportions of Heroic minis.
As for the overall looks, I like them.
My first thoughts was that using different hairstyles was a nice touch. assuming the heads shown are from a range of kits and roles.
Taking a 'Hair-for-rank' approach could mean you'll see scouts/novitiates rocking shorter hairstyles until they've been with their order for long enough to earn the right to the classic bob.
It'd also work as a punishment thing, with penitent sisters having their hair cropped until they've made up for their sins (assuming they weren't bad enough to deserve a go on the heretic pyre).
Now I do hope that they have versions without the metal breasts and just a straight armor or cojoined center. It would be aesthetically pleasing, fun, and could allow people to model it however they want. Allowing people the option to green stuff that in.
Actually, let's turn that around. Keep the sculpted armor the way it is, and if you don't like it, you can file it flat.
Galas wrote: Is that different from having one space marine with a ciber eye or a mohawk in every sprue? Does that means every space marine in 10 wears a mohak or a ciber eye?
There are 16 heads on a Tac Squad sprue, three of which are bare. One of the bare heads sports a rebreather, which is likely meant for a marine carrying a flamer. The other two are presumptively choices for the sarge. Intercessors have a lot more bare heads (6/12) but they are pretty generic. A cyber eye, for example, is more generic than an eye patch. The former could be a product of choice whereas the latter is the necessarily the result of an injury. I could well believe that 8% of Space Marines undergo cybernetic augmentation. The notion that 8% of Sororitas happened to have the same exact wound merits the attention of Departmento Workplace Safety.
inflatablefriend wrote: It'd also work as a punishment thing, with penitent sisters having their hair cropped until they've made up for their sins.
"Here’s a little peek behind the curtain at some early designs for the visages of the faithful – from pious initiates to battle-hardened Sisters Superior."
And I'm sorry Manchu but I just disagree with the notion that whats in the sprue represents in any shape or form the standard apareance/mathematical distribution of the general group. Is like saying all generic "Captain Primaris Marines" look like the model. Or that 60% of Eldar Kabalite warrrios are male and 40% are female because thats what comes with the box.
Strg Alt wrote: HQ & elite SOB units on the other hand would benefit from combat heels to show their increased status.
GW of today is not afraid to give some of their models a subtle boost in sex appeal by handing out high heels which is a good decision.
I bought another gigantic display case from Ikea pretty recently. When I did I earmarked some space for a Sisters army. These renders make me feel like I made the right call. There are a few things I can nitpick at - as stated, the noses aren't great, and I personally am not crazy about the studs on the sabbat helmet, but I think they mostly look terrific and am really excited. I think I've gone past allocating storage for them and into starting to think about color schemes.
It's certainly interesting that they are doing this army as a stage-by-stage project in front of our eyes. Maybe it's a prototype development plan where they continue to build hype and take feedback from fans throughout the process and if successful we may be privy to other "in the works" forces the studio is working on in the future. It also looks like they are using this approach with the codex rules.
If that's the case that's a brilliant bit of marketing, and ensures players get the "codex they want".
@Galas - I think you're taking a joke a bit too literally. To clarify, te actual point is that a specific, distinctive wound like a missing eye is on the one hand nice because it's so characterful but on the other perhaps too characterful for a nameless squad member. A cybernetic eye, by comparison, is not as characterful in the context of augmented super soldiers.
“So, what feedback have we gotten regarding the Sisters previews of bits not even necessarily final or all on the same sprue? Obviously everyone understands they’re early samples and just super early previews and will respond accordingly, that’s a given, but do they like them?
“Umm...” <shows internet to Board>
“And this is why we don’t design things by committee...”
Hive City Dweller wrote: It's certainly interesting that they are doing this army as a stage-by-stage project in front of our eyes. Maybe it's a prototype development plan where they continue to build hype and take feedback from fans throughout the process and if successful we may be privy to other "in the works" forces the studio is working on in the future. It also looks like they are using this approach with the codex rules.
If that's the case that's a brilliant bit of marketing, and ensures players get the "codex they want".
I certainly don’t think that this will be repeated. A big part of the reason why GW are so careful with their previews is that they don’t want to give the third party manufacturers a head start. Sisters are a unique case. They’ve clearly decided not to change the design, so we already have a very good idea what the finished minis will look like. That’s just not going to happen with something new such as the Idoneth.
More habit heads...with rebreathers! And some more hard-bitten women faces, as opposed to these mostly baby fat-faced teen-aged girl faces. A bit more...chiseled facial features, but not old Clint Eastwood/ Robert Redford craggy faces. So far, so good on this army.
Manchu wrote: @Galas - I think you're taking a joke a bit too literally. To clarify, te actual point is that a specific, distinctive wound like a missing eye is on the one hand nice because it's so characterful but on the other perhaps too characterful for a nameless squad member. A cybernetic eye, by comparison, is not as characterful in the context of augmented super soldiers.
Oh, ok. If it was a joke then I apologize. I can see your point. Personally I have no problem with that. The more customization the better. I'll end up mixing heads from different kits anyway.
Waiting for the teaser vid wherein they melt and smash a 25yr old metal sisters model, then pat themselves on the back for coming out with something better, after, well, 25 years.
Strg Alt wrote: HQ & elite SOB units on the other hand would benefit from combat heels to show their increased status.
GW of today is not afraid to give some of their models a subtle boost in sex appeal by handing out high heels which is a good decision.
No.
One thing's for certain - whatever GW do with the plastic Sisters release, someone will be very unhappy and there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
I've got my own preferences and such as well, of course, but I'm sure I'll be at the least ok with whatever they produce. The one thing I trust modern GW with is turning out some rather excellent models...
they also mention that the heads are from "pious initates to battle hardened veterans" it's possiable the "Becky style short hair" represents a new type of "initate unit" it'd not be the first monastic order in sci-fi that identified their recruits with a crew cut. *looks at the Jedi Padawan braid*
Has anyone else wondered if glaringly obvious "this doesn't look so good" stuff like the noses might be some kind of attempt to protect GW's product while it's still in development stages?
Perhaps my tinfoil hat is on a little too tight, but has anyone else thought that perhaps GW are trying to put a stick between the spokes of the legions of re-casters and imitators by giving out previews for them to pirate that aren't faithful to the quality of the finished product.
Additionally, as much as I'd like there to be a bunch of different sisters troop types, why is everyone assuming we'll get "space marine scouts but they're sisters of battle" - my impression of that promo write-up was that there will be a range of heads in one troop box, representing a mixture of experience among the sororitas rank-and-file. As much as I'd like an amazingly diverse sisters range, looking at the troop options for most other factions in 40k, I think we'll be extremely lucky if we get much beyond plastic replacements for what already exists, and about 2 characters. (I'd be so happy to be proven wrong, however (unless it's sister superior Becky))
posermcbogus wrote: Has anyone else wondered if glaringly obvious "this doesn't look so good" stuff like the noses might be some kind of attempt to protect GW's product while it's still in development stages?
Perhaps my tinfoil hat is on a little too tight, but has anyone else thought that perhaps GW are trying to put a stick between the spokes of the legions of re-casters and imitators by giving out previews for them to pirate that aren't faithful to the quality of the finished product.
Additionally, as much as I'd like there to be a bunch of different sisters troop types, why is everyone assuming we'll get "space marine scouts but they're sisters of battle" - my impression of that promo write-up was that there will be a range of heads in one troop box, representing a mixture of experience among the sororitas rank-and-file. As much as I'd like an amazingly diverse sisters range, looking at the troop options for most other factions in 40k, I think we'll be extremely lucky if we get much beyond plastic replacements for what already exists, and about 2 characters. (I'd be so happy to be proven wrong, however (unless it's sister superior Becky))
I'm not sure that even at the worst of times GW's lawyers thought they had a copyright for human faces. A Sister with a specific style of hood is much more likely to be copied by third party manufacturers than human faces modeled after something you can see if you look at the next best person. Especially if the reaction to the noses turns out to be unimpressed. Nah, that line of thinking is just paranoia.
It'll go one of two ways: we'll get what we have now in plastic or that and then some. We just don't know yet. It's no more or less logical to assume we get more than it is that we get less at this stage. And then the question becomes: which would you rather have? It's no fun speculating about the worst case scenario.
Obviously we could get an initiate unit or model profile inside a normal Sisters squad that is represented by short-haired heads on the model. That's just some sprue space and a head swap away from reality. But when you consider that we already have plenty of units with Sister in power armor with bolter available, and factor in GW's desire to make new models/ to incentivize purchases even from people who already have a functional Sisters army, it's not hard to believe that we might get a new unit with short hair to represent inexperienced recruits, possibly in less awesome gear because they haven't earned it yet.
As for being proven wrong, we'll see in time, but maybe you'll allow yourself to feel a little more optimism when you consider that an extra initiate unit is not a luxury. Even Necrons have two Troops choices these days. Having just a single option for Sisters would be decidedly substandard and having two is certainly not something you should consider extremely lucky.
BrianDavion wrote: they also mention that the heads are from "pious initates to battle hardened veterans" it's possiable the "Becky style short hair" represents a new type of "initate unit" it'd not be the first monastic order in sci-fi that identified their recruits with a crew cut. *looks at the Jedi Padawan braid*
Sisters traditionally recruited from Inquisitorial acolytes and the Storm troopers so they had considerable battle experience even before they donned their Power armor.
So I really hope SoB troop choices expand accordingly.
EDIT: Sorry, I was confused with WItchhunters Codex. Poster below me is right.
Adepta Sororitas recruits from Schola Progenium, a recruitment pool also fished by the Inquisition, Commissariat, and Ordo Tempestus. It's not that Sisters first pull duty as Acolytes, Commissars, or Storm Troopers.
Adepta Sororitas recruits from Schola Progenium, a recruitment pool also fished by the Inquisition, Commissariat, and Ordo Tempestus. It's not that Sisters first pull duty as Acolytes, Commissars, or Storm Troopers.
Yep thats true You don;t get "transferred" to the Sororitas. T
here is some lore that states that a senior Sororitas however can become a Inquisitor though.
Adepta Sororitas recruits from Schola Progenium, a recruitment pool also fished by the Inquisition, Commissariat, and Ordo Tempestus. It's not that Sisters first pull duty as Acolytes, Commissars, or Storm Troopers.
Yep thats true You don;t get "transferred" to the Sororitas. T
here is some lore that states that a senior Sororitas however can become a Inquisitor though.
Right, but by that same note, *anybody* with the right attitude, motivation, and connections can become an Inquisitor. Inquisitorial acolytes come from all walks of life.
IIRC it was more of the go straight into the role of Inquisitor rather than the more usual route
Mc Devil wrote: Any lore reasons why battle sisters have ugly man's faces?
Yes.
“In the 40th millenium, stupid people die quite easily given how dangerous the grimdark is, so noone is left alive to tell the Sisters that they should put more effort on their appearance for the benefit of troglodites”.
Straight out of the 2nd edition codex.
Which also gives us the most canonical depiction of a Sister's face ever:
I really feel like I am going to have a super easy time finding the heads I want because I really, really love that short haired #3 and it sounds like most people will be checking them in the garbage.
Mc Devil wrote: Any lore reasons why battle sisters have ugly man's faces?
Yes.
“In the 40th millenium, stupid people die quite easily given how dangerous the grimdark is, so noone is left alive to tell the Sisters that they should put more effort on their appearance for the benefit of troglodites”.
Straight out of the 2nd edition codex.
Which also gives us the most canonical depiction of a Sister's face ever:
Spoiler:
I must be honest, the only artwork in GW history that I've hated more than THAT GUY'S artwork is Blanche's. Some of my least favorite pieces in GW history at by him.
Blanches art is almost like stylized surrealism though, his work is dripping with atmosphere and aesthetics. Much prefer it over the slapdash photoshop work we have been getting the past few years. Kopinski was probably the best artist GW had working for them, I think he left quite some time ago. I hope some of these sisters heads simply look better painted, with a render it's hard to tell sometimes.
Mc Devil wrote: Any lore reasons why battle sisters have ugly man's faces?
Yes.
“In the 40th millenium, stupid people die quite easily given how dangerous the grimdark is, so noone is left alive to tell the Sisters that they should put more effort on their appearance for the benefit of troglodites”.
Straight out of the 2nd edition codex.
Which also gives us the most canonical depiction of a Sister's face ever:
Spoiler:
that doesn't mean they all should have a manly face
Mc Devil wrote: Any lore reasons why battle sisters have ugly man's faces?
Yes.
“In the 40th millenium, stupid people die quite easily given how dangerous the grimdark is, so noone is left alive to tell the Sisters that they should put more effort on their appearance for the benefit of troglodites”.
Straight out of the 2nd edition codex.
Which also gives us the most canonical depiction of a Sister's face ever:
They look like militant church ladies, which is exactly what I was hoping for.
Heck, I even like the helmets and I've been a big proponent of the angry bobs style and had been trying to figure out how to make habits for some bald heads, then they gave me a habit.
The heads look great. They look like *real* people, and will provide a range of faces for sisters models. Real humans have a diversity of facial features, and it's good to not have every model with the same face.
Folks why so mean It looks like I did not appreciate GW's genius. They do exactly what fans expect and desire . Turn female faces into men's potatoes. Good for you guys.
Damn that grimdark universe is realy depressive place. No pretty girls left :(.
@Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl thats picture is more like style of that artist. Im sure you can find some different graphic with more smooth sisters .
Mc Devil wrote: Any lore reasons why battle sisters have ugly man's faces?
Yes.
“In the 40th millenium, stupid people die quite easily given how dangerous the grimdark is, so noone is left alive to tell the Sisters that they should put more effort on their appearance for the benefit of troglodites”.
Straight out of the 2nd edition codex.
Which also gives us the most canonical depiction of a Sister's face ever:
Spoiler:
Sister Sin from Rogue Trader is better and more canonical.
The designer who posts on the Mad Robot thread, when criticised on a new range of heads, normally answers that due to the design process, the renders often appear unreal and exaggerated because that is what gives you the desired outcome when finally cast.
Is that what we are seeing here?
As for grim sisters, I wouldn't mind seeing one or two faces designed with a Sister in a state of divine joy because she is doing the Emperor's work. Can that be captured in 28mm scale?
Just Tony wrote: I must be honest, the only artwork in GW history that I've hated more than THAT GUY'S artwork is Blanche's. Some of my least favorite pieces in GW history at by him.
I have to agree. I know it's heresy but I too have never really liked John Blanche's art.
Just Tony wrote: I must be honest, the only artwork in GW history that I've hated more than THAT GUY'S artwork is Blanche's. Some of my least favorite pieces in GW history at by him.
I have to agree. I know it's heresy but I too have never really liked John Blanche's art.
Blanche, England, and whomever drew that really terrible angular sketchy artwork in the 3rd Ed. Marine Codex. You know, the one where you have a Tyranid closing on a Marine firing a bolter, they both look like Giger hood ornaments swirling id smudges.
Prestor Jon wrote: Sister Sin from Rogue Trader is better and more canonical.
Spoiler:
No you got things wrong, Sister Sin isn't a Sister of Battle she is the OG proof that female Space Marines are 100% canon and everything saying otherwise is propaganda and lies.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I love the logic (of lack thereof) here: "This pictures shows her face looks like this, therefore they all look like this!".
Spoiler:
You are not very good at understanding but you can go back to complaining about Australian GW price all day so it's fine
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