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Got my November WD last night and found a subscription price increase notice inside.

New Subscriptions are now $80.00 dollars for 12 issues and renewals are $75 dollars for 12 issues. Also noticed that the single issue price is going to be $8.00 dollars.

Ouch, another cut into my limited funds.

Warrior 50

As the economy around the world falls prices will go up.simple mechanics.

Wow!

Ballsy move by GW, especially considering the recent track record of the magazine, and the as of yet unfulfilled promise to make WD worth reading again...

and the answer is....

Don't buy it.

If you really need to look at pretty adverts just go and get the flyers from your local store.

also I imagine $8.00 would buy quite a lot of loo roll, though not in britain where it's equivalent to what, 40p?

I will be buying WD even less than I do now (which is rarely). Is anyone still going to buy WD (I'm seriously asking this to people here)?

Isn't this one of those "oops, I shot myself in the leg" moments?

theHandofGork wrote:I will be buying WD even less than I do now (which is rarely). Is anyone still going to buy WD (I'm seriously asking this to people here)?

I probably will, but I'll probably be more selective and not buy every month.

Platuan4th wrote:I probably will, but I'll probably be more selective and not buy every month.

Enter: polybags every month, with or without freebies...

Haven't bought one in 4 years now, not going to start.

ZamboniKnight wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:I probably will, but I'll probably be more selective and not buy every month.

Enter: polybags every month, with or without freebies...

Enter: Online reviews every month, like there are already...

Wow, this just further justifies my decision not to spend money on glossy toilet paper.

Ah, but nothing else gives your backend that just-home-from-the-showroom-shine like glossy toilet paper.

Good lord this is hilarious.

Its not worth buying in the first place, and now they are charging even more for the advertisements you pay for.

Yeah, I understand price increases, but this is silly. if anything the price should be dropped, not increased.

In todays economy, they expect this magazine to command premium prices, but yet give substandard quality.

Sorry GW, it was nice when you gave out models in the mag, but this isn't going to fly. Good luck with that.

Of course when the economy gets better the prices arent going down.

Yeah, this is the first time for me that GW has truly priced itself out of what I'm willing to spend. While there have been hints and a vague feeling that WD is getting better, the 40k content is still incredibly weak and fundamentally uninteresting. I simply don't play WFB, although I tend to enjoy the articles, while LOTR gets the best content, month in and month out, for a system that I not only don't play, but realistically couldn't play for lack of players.

At $6, I bought if for some light reading and to support my FLGS a tiny bit. With GW rolling out models that I'm interested in with new Space marines, IG around the corner and the prospect of Planet Strike, I'd rather buy for those than pay for WD. I could buy WD or a reaper mini, or a few pots of paint, or a nice brush, etc.

In GW's defense, niche hobby magazines tend to be pricy, however most include content that's both highly useful and unavailable readily online. I'm sorry, but my days of simply buying White Dwarf out of habit are over. I'm hoping they make it relevant again, because i would gladly pay $8 for truly interesting and useful hobby content... .but I"m not holding my breath.

I miss the old WD's, back when they were a trove of good stuff and laughs, not the bland trice-checked for funnies that we have today.

The first White Dwarf that really made an impression on me was because of it's 40k battle report. It was in the 150's and feature Ragnar Blackman, Ulrik the Slayer, and Njal Stormcaller leading their Space Wolves against Ghazkhull Thraka. The BatRep was written as if it was a novel though. No mention was made of dice rolls or specific measurements. It was FANTASTIC! Then I think it was issue 170 which featured an amazing Dark Angels army. The army was small but featured the Dark Green clad Marines in a uniform that was set off by it's blazing yellow/orange/red trim. As it's centerpiece, stood a dreadnaught with a hand painted angel on it's armor that was repeated upon it's banner. Where these features are now, I don't know. I mostly pick up White Dwarf now on an infrequent basis and only to see what's going on in the realm of GW.

This is just another reason not buy this poor product. I mean the rumor I heard that all the codex supported Marines were getting WD codex redoes to satisfy the fact Codex Marines changed things, might make up things a bit but only for those limited number of players.

This could be some of the first effects of the economic crisis is having on gw, it is bound to happen at some point gw being in the recreation sector and therefore must likely to suffer during a recession. Other than that and budgeting issues i cant see another reason why they would do this. It could be just another 'exploit our huge share in the market' maneuver but I don't think gw are that stupid considering the current economic climate any price change at this time will need to be a necessity surely.

Is there any magazine that is more expensive for a yearly subscription than White Dwarf? Seriously, I want to know.

Is there any magazine that is as expensive or more expensive than White Dwarf, that has as little actual content as WD?

The expense was unjustifiable before the price went up. GW is getting increasingly out of touch. They jack up prices as though their fans' lives depend on the purchase of these fundamentally useless nic-nacs. This may be a fun hobby, but it is just a hobby. If/when expenses get tight, this hobby is the first thing many rational people will cut out of their budget. Let them try to price gouge. They need to be humbled.

Seeing how little/none advertisements there are in WD from companies other then the people publishing it, I think WD is more of a company newsletter then a magazine.

One hobby mag I readily pick up is Fine Scale Modeler. Fantastic hobby content.

I still subscribe, but this will make me think twice about renewing... it has been wretched for a while now, but I stuck around for the little hobby coverage and the new Marines and 5th edition info... past that it is sorely lacking in redeeming features.

The old stuff is better in most cases, especially seeing as it was more messy back then. A little bit of an odd bunch of scenarios here, an army showcase there, a scenery workshop by Nigel Stillman on top and what do we get? Something fun that makes reading through those 80+ pages fun. The battle reports might look clunkier back then but at least they weren't so driven at promoting the crap of the month.

Archonate wrote:The expense was unjustifiable before the price went up. GW is getting increasingly out of touch. They jack up prices as though their fans' lives depend on the purchase of these fundamentally useless nic-nacs. This may be a fun hobby, but it is just a hobby. If/when expenses get tight, this hobby is the first thing many rational people will cut out of their budget. Let them try to price gouge. They need to be humbled.

Yes because its all them being jerks.

EDITED by FRAZZLED to keep thread from degenerating into flamewar.

whatwhat wrote:This could be some of the first effects of the economic crisis is having on gw, it is bound to happen at some point gw being in the recreation sector and therefore must likely to suffer during a recession. Other than that and budgeting issues i cant see another reason why they would do this. It could be just another 'exploit our huge share in the market' maneuver but I don't think gw are that stupid considering the current economic climate any price change at this time will need to be a necessity surely.

I beg to differ.
During times of recession or depression, forms of egress (escapism, don't delude yourself that hobbies aren't a form of escapism) do quite well in those climes. While it isn't burgeoning by any means during such times, they certainly aren't hit nearly as bad as say other forms of industry. Industries such as essentials which are forced to increase prices. Or industries such as cookware, furniture, etc which aren't considered a necessity until they HAVE to become replaced due to ruin when money can be better spent elsewhere.

Look at nickelodeons during the depression. The movie industry certainly wasn't in any bad shape during that time. It was a comparatively cheap way to pass rough times.

Price increases are warranted, but price increases for a substandard advertisement promoted as a "product" is laughable at best.

Hellfury wrote:

whatwhat wrote:This could be some of the first effects of the economic crisis is having on gw, it is bound to happen at some point gw being in the recreation sector and therefore must likely to suffer during a recession. Other than that and budgeting issues i cant see another reason why they would do this. It could be just another 'exploit our huge share in the market' maneuver but I don't think gw are that stupid considering the current economic climate any price change at this time will need to be a necessity surely.

I beg to differ.
During times of recession or depression, forms of egress (escapism, don't delude yourself that hobbies aren't a form of escapism) do quite well in those climes. While it isn't burgeoning by any means during such times, they certainly aren't hit nearly as bad as say other forms of industry. Industries such as essentials which are forced to increase prices. Or industries such as cookware, furniture, etc which aren't considered a necessity until they HAVE to become replaced due to ruin when money can be better spent elsewhere.

Look at nickelodeons during the depression. The movie industry certainly wasn't in any bad shape during that time. It was a comparatively cheap way to pass rough times.

Price increases are warranted, but price increases for a substandard advertisement promoted as a "product" is laughable at best.

And that hole post mean jack gak. GW is a company based around a HOBBY, with the economy crashing the way it is less people buy more models, less people buying means they are not making money, if there not making money they have to increase there prices so they can still pay there employees.

Odds are that GW will offer holiday specials on WD subs like they do every year, so wait until then if you want to renew.

Modquisition Mode on.
Lets simmer down now in addressing other posters before this thread derails. Jokergod specifically please modify your language in future posts
If there are further reports I'll shut this thread down.

Modquisition Mode off.

When was the last time something useful was even in a WD that you couldn't just get off their website? The free snap-together Terminator?

I'm very new to the hobby (started playing in July) and the couple of WD mags I've recieved have been all right. I do admit that the interviews seem to be "tell us why to buy more stuff." However I really enjoy the Battle Reports & the 40k army building section.

However, I doubt I'll renew with the price increase, sometimes I just have to take a stand.