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But more importantly, how huge is the model that goes on this monstrosity



It should be noted, the model being dwarfed on the left is a human sized 28 mil fig.

Rumor has it, the giant fig will be a playable Satan model.

The whole model will be unveiled at gencon... Just 1 week away.

Ex Illis, right? That peasant looks about their style.

Yup....

Nothing says basing like a fallen soul trying to pull itself out of "the pit" using the entrails of a bisected angel as a rope..... At least that's what it looks like to me.

That base is... Mildly disturbing. It would go great with a WHFB diorama.

Whoa!

Now that is something!

Can't wait to see what goes on that base...

Interesting base, but how come the details are so "soft" and blobby?

Could be mud... or the ground is soaked in the blood of the unbelievers!

JohnHwangDD wrote:Interesting base, but how come the details are so "soft" and blobby?

it reminds me of those craters GW came out with last year that they outsourced to some cheap chinese manufacturer and then ended up allowing people to return.

No way dude. Check out how crisp the details are on things like the angels wings and shoulder pads.

If I had to venture a guess. I would guess the blobby parts look that way because its supposed to be a pool of etherial goop.

I'm picturing Neo when he is awoken in the real world. All that slimmy gooly stuff on him.

Chocolate coated cookie thing is what I'm thinking

That poor sod hasn't much hope armed only with a pitch fork. Or is he just holding it for a demon while he's nipped to the loo?

It looks like the component from a toy set (abiet a slightly disturbing one). I do not like this casting method's results. It looks as good as cheap vacuum moulding.

It could have been a brilliant base, but it was unfortunately held back from reaching its full potential.

Not impressed, with the base or the poorly done peasant either.

Have to agree it looks soft, but that might just be the lighting. Would love to see it painted.

Wait, do all the dudes in the pit have three fingers? And all their faces are in the muck... Interesting... it really makes me want to know what they look like.

Almost all of the fallen souls appear to be the same sculpt, almost cookie-cutted out , if you will.

But, I do have to say, a daemon prince wouldn't look that bad on it..

Gymnogyps wrote: Would love to see it painted.

I will post a pic of the model from gencon. Mind you guys, this is just the base, what goes on top is the million dollar question.

Yeah i dunno. I agree with some of the above posters. It looks soft and vacuumed formed. Hopefully whatever goes on that base isn't.

I think the softness may be the result of a very poor job using 3d modelling techniques, I've seen similar results via that process before.

MadNes wrote:No way dude. Check out how crisp the details are on things like the angels wings and shoulder pads.

If I had to venture a guess. I would guess the blobby parts look that way because its supposed to be a pool of etherial goop.

I'm picturing Neo when he is awoken in the real world. All that slimmy gooly stuff on him.

i just figured out why it looks so slimey and it has to do with the blocks in rows. at first, i had no clue why they were there and then i realized that they were clay bricks being dried out in the sun. you dump a ton of water onto clay earth and then mold the bricks to later dry out (at least that's how discovery/history channel explained it years ago). so.. it is supposed to be blobby... but i think it just looks cheap like the toy soldier sets you buy at dollar stores. there is more detail around the angel wings and a few other parts but my overall opinion is that the look detracts from it.

Kind of meh as far as the base goes, not a ton of detail aside the souls clambering outward but I do want to see what exactly fits on that base.

Poor sculpt. Blobby, cheap moulding.

That's a great concept that has just been totally let down by execution.

Horrible in every possible way! Waste of plastic.

MadNes wrote:No way dude. Check out how crisp the details are on things like the angels wings and shoulder pads.

Crisp? Well I'm probably not watching the same pic then!

Even if the concept in interesting, the realisation really is of poor quality.

Take a look at the rest of Ex Illis' line, I was actually interested in them until I looked seriously at their models. Almost uni-pose, with a stunning lack of detail. I'm not surprised by how this looks at all.

I guess everyone has different tastes, but this looks like high-end plastic to me.

http://ex-illis.com/wiki/index.php/File:Monster-Base2.jpg

Note the skulls in between the souls / bodies, whatever. Probly hard to that with a cheap vacume mold.

Sarrazon wrote:Take a look at the rest of Ex Illis' line, I was actually interested in them until I looked seriously at their models. Almost uni-pose, with a stunning lack of detail. I'm not surprised by how this looks at all.

Uni-pose, lack of detail? Are you sure?







The miniatures have plenty of postures and bits available:
http://ex-illis.com/wikien/images/7/7a/Manual_serjants.jpg

Richard Coeur de Lion wrote:

Sarrazon wrote:Take a look at the rest of Ex Illis' line, I was actually interested in them until I looked seriously at their models. Almost uni-pose, with a stunning lack of detail.

Uni-pose, lack of detail? Are you sure?

He said *almost* uni-pose, and that's true for a lot of their stuff.

Here's what an Ex Illis army looks like:



I see mostly:
- mono-pose cavalry L,
- mono-pose spears L,
- mono-pose crossbows L,
- mono-pose spears R,
- mono-pose bows R,
- mono-pose giants R,
- mono-pose spears B,
- mono-pose cavalry R,

But, wait:

- tri-pose imps R - hoo boy!

And, of course:

- monopose characters -- that's what we were waiting for!




image taken from http://www.livingdice.com/2429/ex-illis-beta-kit-assembled/ - it's definitely mono-pose plastics.



I will not be buying any Ex Illis product for the foreseeable future.

OTOH, Malifaux and Infinity? Yeah, I can see myself getting into them.

JohnHwangDD wrote:
He said *almost* uni-pose, and that's true for a lot of their stuff.

Here's what an Ex Illis army looks like.

False!
That's what this starter set looks like, that's it! This is one picture. That's the way the owner assembled it.
You can actually assemble those guys with alternative postures and bits! So be careful before stating something when you actually don't know what you are talking about.
Don't like the starter set? You can buy from the newer units then.

You take one picture out of the internet, without ever having seen the product for real, and you claim that's all there is to it...
Inform yourself before attacking a product.

That's the starter set of a new company that you are showing. I think it's a pretty good deal, 54 minis for about 60$.
Care to compare to the first starter set GW ever produced to make it a fairer comparison?

Look at the quality of the new units Ex illis are releasing now, and appreciate the progress they have made in little less than one year.

Or do you just prefer bashing for the fun of bashing a product that you have obviously never seen with your own eyes?
You don't want to buy Ex illis products? Fine! But don't flame it in this unfair fashion for the rest of the players... That's just plain hate.

Its not bashing to state that they are limited in pose.

Or that it is a style that is disliked.

Ex Illis interested me. Until I saw them on the shelf.
They looked lower quality than the pieces for my Descent game.
The pre-paints I saw were on par with Mage Knight.

Now if I read the rules and they interested me, I might be likely to proxy an army. But I don't think I would ever use their current line.

Unfortunately, every new game has to compete with the sculpts of GW, PP, or Wargames Foundry(historicals).
If they don't match up, you cannot lean on the "new company" excuse, as there are so many options out there.
That is Malifaux and Infinity's strengths. The minis are great already. The rules can catch up later, since they have the figures down already.

skrulnik wrote:Its not bashing to state that they are limited in pose.

It is bashing when you generalize, by saying all the Ex illis product line is limited in pose and lacks details, and that's what an Ex illis army always looks like. While actually it's only this starter set that does.

The new units have a lot of details, bits and poses. The new Archangels are looking fantastic, I've seen them so at least I can give an educated opinion.
They are new units coming and they are all following this diversity and quality trend.