Pic of Gynormous base for 28 mil range leaked - must see

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**MadNes**

@ vene - give an example please. There are settings of the game that are customizable, some are not. For instance, you wont be able to make changes to the algarythms for how a uniy hits/ blocks / attacks etc? But I've played with houserules quite a few times. I guess if I had a better Idea of what your lokiking for I could help more.

@'narznok - in my experience, ex-Illis is the most accesible war game to get into. I have no recollection of being confused by a rule. But if
you would like to post examples I would like to try and help clear it up.
The starter for Ex-illis can be purchased for as little as $60 us. In addition to a fair price for 54 (very nice) minis, the absence of a need to purchase rulebooks, codexes, tokens etc, makes the game an even better value. Sure
there will be the odd person out who doen't have a computer, or an Ipod touch, but noone
here should have that problem.
BoW - We have been told the hold up on the video is due mainly to the BoW site upgrades. I'm told the video is still going to happen.
B) most shows of this kind give away theirndemo copies as prizes. The d6g just away battles of westeros... They seemed to have liked it just fine.

Historical fantasy was not invented by bastion. There are tons of games that twist history into a fantastic setting. If its not your thing thats cool, but thats not rhe games fault.

You are right about one thing, the games player base is too small, and that is said because its a darn good game. But like William Wallaces uncle said in Braveheart' "that's something we shall have to remedy isn't it"

**JSK-Fox**

Let us assume that neither player has a laptop, and have an old computer (some people do). They would have to buy a laptop/computer, which would cost a lot. Then, they would need to buy the software/minis, even more. Also, the minis are only needed to register. I'm sure most people prefer having the rush of chance when they roll dice, instead of waiting for calculations to be made.

Anyways, back on topic.
The base looks like a carved soap bar, but if made in better quality, would be awesome.

**MadNes**

Yes, there are graphics on the screen AND minis on the board. I'm not understanding why the "and" part is so difficult for people to grasp. Its a hybrid game. It takes two cool things, fuses them together, and makes a brand new cool thing. Just because its been " either" board "or" computer in the past, doesn't mean it MUST ALWAYS be this way.

Change is good peeps.

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JSK-Fox wrote:Let us assume that neither player has a laptop, and have an old computer (some people do). They would have to buy a laptop/computer, which would cost a lot. Then, they would need to buy the software/minis, even more. Also, the minis are only needed to register. I'm sure most people prefer having the rush of chance when they roll dice, instead of waiting for calculations to be made.

Anyways, back on topic.
The base looks like a carved soap bar, but if made in better quality, would be awesome.

ipod touch - starting at $199
Netbook - starting at 299

And as a bonus, they are usefull even when you aren't playing ex-illis

P.s. The software is free..
Soap huh? Thats a creepy bar of soap

**JSK-Fox**

Well, fortunately it isn't sharp.
AND YOU WORSHIP TZEENTCH?

Cookie to whoever gets the joke.

**MadNes**

JSK-Fox wrote:Well, fortunately it isn't sharp.
AND YOU WORSHIP TZEENTCH?

Cookie to whoever gets the joke.

Change IS good... But I'm all about

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

**plastictrees**

It's a bit weird that people on an internet forum are factoring buying a computer into the start up cost of this game.
Maybe the number of people I know with laptops, netbooks, Iphones or Ipod touches is a weird anomaly.

The software seems a bit odd to me.
I don't see the need for the animated combat. You're just underlining the redundancy of the models. The software should either keep you further away from the combat on the table (the strategic overview) or take you even closer then you can get with models. A really nice graphic interface would be much better than the animated combat, which looks similar to playing Age of Empires on my gameboy six years ago.
Why are the "duels" flying around the screen?

That first YouTube video was vague, but not especially confusing.

**MadNes**

The youtube video was an epic fail. A really poor representation of the game. It illustrated the baby mechanics, but didn't delve into the deeper layers of gameplay.

The animations appeal to non wargamers. So I can play with a kid or my gf and its neat for them

When too tacticians play each other, trust me, they are staring at the board hard enough to melt the plastic tiles. At least that has been my experience. I don't even notice the animations anymore. (except when new units come out. Its pretty cool to check out oncre or twice.

**Kid_Kyoto**

I think this has been done to death, we've seen the base, seen Ex Illis' models and talked about Ex Illis' rules and marketing.

When the demon that goes with this base shows up we can start a new thread.