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This a rather weird model to be released by GW.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=&prodId=prod1140066a




It makes me wonder how GW think up of this stuff.

How is it weird? it fits the description that GW has had for Jokaero for years

The original 1987 edition of the game (Rogue Trader) was full of all kinds of wild and weird ideas, including the Jokaero. There's an awesome thread around here somewhere full of fluff and art from the original edition. If these guys confuse you, that thread will blow your mind.

Indeed, here is the thread:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/348361.page

I like them, but I also miss the humor 40k use to have.

In itself, the Jokaero is a nice model and has its place in the original official background (basically build around the pun "digital weapons").
Making it part of an army, esp. a Xenos hating Imperial army is what doesn't make sense and contradicts official background.

IDK It's a nice model, and a good sculpt, but it seems a bit too cheerful for 40k? maybe due to the cartoonishly bright colours they have used, but it looks like it belongs in Starfox Adventures (the old game for the GameCube) than the grim darkness of the far future.

Perhaps with a darker fur tone and better basing it will fit the theme of 40K more.

To re-iterate:
Sculpt - Awesome, Concept - Awesome, does it fit into 40K? - Not really

I like it...

Leigen_Zero wrote:IDK It's a nice model, and a good sculpt, but it seems a bit too cheerful for 40k? maybe due to the cartoonishly bright colours they have used, but it looks like it belongs in Starfox Adventures (the old game for the GameCube) than the grim darkness of the far future.

Perhaps with a darker fur tone and better basing it will fit the theme of 40K more.

To re-iterate:
Sculpt - Awesome, Concept - Awesome, does it fit into 40K? - Not really

I have to agree almost entirely.

And regards how they came up with the concept? Perhaps they watched the Planet of the Apes?

Kroothawk wrote:In itself, the Jokaero is a nice model and has its place in the original official background (basically build around the pun "digital weapons").
Making it part of an army, esp. a Xenos hating Imperial army is what doesn't make sense and contradicts official background.

It's funny how you can actually field a whole unit of them with an Ordo Xenos inquisitor, who are suppose to be xenophobic, even more so than other Ordos.

Jokaero aren't any more sentient than a dog. Humans have been enjoying the company of dogs for thousands of years now.

I'm sure even the alien-intolerant Imperium has their doggies.

Ordos Xenos has no qualms about using weird alien devices, why would a weird alien dog matter?

It's the same issue as Cortez leading a whole army of Daemonhosts. Retcon much? XD

I haven't had a look at the codex, but I hope they are a terrible unit. I guess even if they were OP I would still find something to take instead of a squad of them. Better yet, I'd rather take a pack of dogs with mini servo harnesses for count as models. That would be neat.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:It's the same issue as Cortez

The only Cortez in 40k is a captain of the Crimson Fists.

Someone in the other thread kept spelling Coteaz's name as Cortez. I thought they retconned his name too. But yeah, Coteaz leading an army of Daemonhosts is the same as a Ordo Xeno Inq leading a herd of space monkeys.

And if the Jokaero are still 10 points a pop, we'll probably be seeing Space Monkey spam, since even if they only have a lascannon, multimelta and flamer, it's a freaking lascannon for 10 points. 120 points for 12 lascannons shots a turn is always worth the points.

DarknessEternal wrote:Jokaero aren't any more sentient than a dog. Humans have been enjoying the company of dogs for thousands of years now.
I'm sure even the alien-intolerant Imperium has their doggies.
Ordos Xenos has no qualms about using weird alien devices, why would a weird alien dog matter?

Lexicanum40k wrote:They are certainly capable of tremendous technological and logical feats, yet they have no language, culture or motivation higher than survival. (...)
It is impossible to argue or reason with a Jokaero, and even giving them what they want is difficult, since they are incapable of communicating. (...)
Jokaero tend to build only things which meet their own immediate needs. Attempts to control the Jokaero and force them to construct technology have met with failure as they build things with which to escape from their captors.

That's why.
Even if Ordo Xenos wanted, Jokaeros can't be controlled.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:It's funny how you can actually field a whole unit of them with an Ordo Xenos inquisitor, who are suppose to be xenophobic, even more so than other Ordos.

Unit? You can field a complete Xeno army with only the HQ being human Xeno haters. And Mat sees no reason to explain that.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:In itself, the Jokaero is a nice model and has its place in the original official background (basically build around the pun "digital weapons").
Making it part of an army, esp. a Xenos hating Imperial army is what doesn't make sense and contradicts official background.

It's funny how you can actually field a whole unit of them with an Ordo Xenos inquisitor, who are suppose to be xenophobic, even more so than other Ordos.

Would these not be the equivalent of daemon hosts? Perhaps Jokaero are what you'd find in a radical ordo xenos inquisitor's retinue. Trying to use the abilities of the enemy to fight the enemy for the good of the IoM

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Someone in the other thread kept spelling Coteaz's name as Cortez. I thought they retconned his name too.

And someone kept spelling Cruddace's name as Cruddance, doesn't make it the correct name.

Man I love 40k, the only place I would expect my chaos marines stride forth, blasting hate and their last memory before a giant blast of energy eradicated their existantence is a space monkey using a ring based Hadouken.

Pure win.

I'm considering making a rogue trader "counts as" inquisitor, jokaero fit in better that way IMO

Am I the only one who thinks it might be GW poking fun at Terry Pratchett's Librarian from Unseen University? I mean... a guy looking like an orang-utan, who is only half-sentient, but impressively knowledgeable does sound like there are a few similarities. And then that orange colour scheme, too.

As for the issue of fluffyness, I think xenos fighting for ordo xenos is just the O-X way of being radical.

A lot of Ordo Xenos Inq. are pretty tolerant of those they fight. They don't have to be OTT purist. Most of them seem to be portrayed as realists who understand that fighting Xenos isn't the only thing they do.

They've been around for ages!! But its the rules i like the best! The ring that can be a multi-melta, heavy flamer or lascannon!! How annoyed would you be if an orange orangutan blew up your new battlewagon or hammerhead!!

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
And if the Jokaero are still 10 points a pop, we'll probably be seeing Space Monkey spam, since even if they only have a lascannon, multimelta and flamer, it's a freaking lascannon for 10 points. 120 points for 12 lascannons shots a turn is always worth the points.

Anyone who told you that is lyling or grossly misinformed.

These guys have been around for along time and used to have a really ugly model

What I find strange is the rules for these guys. Apparently they have shooting options to fire as lascannons and plasma weapons ect....how is that WYSIWYG?

Is pointing a monkey finger considered a weapon now?

Yeah. Can't give points away on here...but it's more than triple that. All I'm gonna say...according to the leak. I haven't seen the official yet. Can't wait to get my hands on the real one though-even if I probably won't play them unless I go only inquisition.

Yay... space monkeys are cool...

Inquisitors are evil hearted bastards who don't bat an eye at killing a world full of people, or murdering their own allies. They don't give a damn about rules if they want to ally with a magic monkey who the heck is gonna stop them.

timetowaste85 wrote:Yeah. Can't give points away on here...but it's more than triple that. All I'm gonna say...according to the leak. I haven't seen the official yet. Can't wait to get my hands on the real one though-even if I probably won't play them unless I go only inquisition.

That's a relief. I was looking at the leaked dex (the local FLGS apparently didnt get a Blackbox, I'm going to another FLGS out of town this week to take a peak) and followed the entry to the wrong points cost. Still very cheap, as most armies pay that cost for the lascannon alone than pay for a model, lascannon, and two other weapons.

@ Platuan4th: Darkness was more or less correcting me. You're just kicking the dog now.

Sledgio wrote:They've been around for ages!! But its the rules i like the best! The ring that can be a multi-melta, heavy flamer or lascannon!! How annoyed would you be if an orange orangutan blew up your new battlewagon or hammerhead!!

I would accuse him of monkeying around, being a monkey's uncle, and finally tell him to cut the monkey business, in that order