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**Revarien**

I'd prefer this be in the other (now locked) Sisters of battle thread, but here we go... (Source, Newest White Dwarf... hitting soonish):

"Sisters of Battle: Consecrated Shrine
Key Building Stratagem

The shrine houses a relic of great importance. The Sisters of Battle will stop at nothing to protect this revered artefact, finding fresh reservoirs of faith to call upon and defeat their foes.

Rules: Any Sisters of Battle units within a Consecrated Shrine count as having a Simulacrim Imperialis. In addition, if a Sisters of Battle unit within the building successfully makes an Act of Faith, roll a D6: on a roll of a 5 or 6 your army immediately gains a Faith point (see next issue for more details)."

This comes from the Cities of Death article in the [soon to be] newest WD.

It appears that the Simulacrim is still in... and sounds like an upgrade option.

**edit 1 and 2** one last thing... I know it may have been put to rest earlier, but I wanted to confirm that the back page of the WD (posted in the previous thread) was indeed legit.

**da man!**

wait, how do you knowal that!???
oh yeah, you play sisters of battle...

hey, how do you get those wierd little icons, like the necron face and stuff?

CATACHANS!

**filbert**

da man! wrote:wait, how do you knowal that!???!

Is that a joke or a genuine question? Anyway...

Revarien wrote: (Source, Newest White Dwarf... hitting soonish)

**frgsinwntr**

It appears they are taking their game from being an adult(ish) game.... to be a little kid lets have a party! game...

soon their will be upgrades if you invite a clown over... but only if he is wearing a red shirt and brings a pinata full of broken hopes and dreams...

But on a serious note.

I'm glad to hear some rumors... but i'll be annoyed if the game moves closer to appoc...

**pretre**

The proposed strategem is either written for the previous edition or the changes to faith that were rumored are not the ones that will actually come with the WD Dex.

**wyomingfox**

With how everything keeps coming down in points, we are almost there

**morgendonner**

frgsinwntr wrote:I'm glad to hear some rumors... but i'll be annoyed if the game moves closer to appoc...

Keep in mind this is just from the Cities of Death update article for 5th edition COD which is in the next WD issue.

**Magister187**

pretre wrote:The proposed strategem is either written for the previous edition or the changes to faith that were rumored are not the ones that will actually come with the WD Dex.

How can you make that proclamation? It seems to fit in fine with what I read on how the new Faith rules might work. It still uses faith points, and a unit still has to successfully use the Act of Faith so the condition and the reward make sense. What am I missing?

**morgendonner**

-Point retracted after rereading the stratagem-

**Kirika**

This is a SOB specific strat for Cities of Death supplement to be released in White Dwarf. If you don't want to play Cities of Death you don't have to. Its like last years Planetstrike WD supplement. Totally optional. Do these supplements actually do all that well?

I did pick up some of the planetstrike terrain for my display board and for conversions.

**Gonzo_Neo**

I dont know if that is a new info/rumour or was alredy posted in the previus post.

By Heresy-Online

A few sisters of battle Tidbits.

Some info about the sister’s codex coming out this fall:

The Sisters of Battle codex is taking a step away from the old codex’s focus on the Inquisition, and is now more of a codex focused on the Ecclesiarchy. The codex will represent the sisters much more truly to their roots in the fluff, and the non sister codex allies have been changed accordingly. More than many codexes’, the new Codex for sisters really feels like a brand new Codex.
Ok, so let’s start with the sisters themselves.

Redone in plastic, the sisters look great. While they won’t look out of place with the sisters of the past, they look much more like members of the church, though the over all look of the armor is very similar, if more ornate. The box set comes with enough plastic to make five sisters, but while we are only getting five girls per box, we are gaining a host of new options. The box contains bits to configure them as either regular sisters or Seraphim, and has tons of cool little extra bits to really make each unit unique. Gone are the Inquisition =I=’s, usually replaced with the fleur-de-lis. I counted eleven heads total, with five helmets, five without helmets and one with a gasmask / respirator type thing. Each of the eleven heads was a unique sculpt. The entire kit just really shows how far molds and model making has come since the days when our old sisters were cast, and while I would have been the first to scream heresy a year ago if you told me the sisters were changing, I have to say that the new ones really look fantastic.

I would like to take a moment to talk about their legs as well. I have always considered myself a modeler/painter first and a gamer second and one of the things that always bothered me about the old sisters were their legs. Like all metal miniatures, moding them was hard, and no sisters really had dynamic posses. The new legs have me really excited because they are very dynamic. I guess I would best compare them to the BA legs from their recent release. They really offer a lot of options in terms of modeling and are really one of the most exciting parts of the kit, in my opinion.

For weapon options the kit comes with a flamer, melt gun, storm bolter and pistol flamer as well as two guns I didn’t recognize including a weird rifle type thing and some gun that looked like a pistol from the 18th century with a torch bracket jammed on the end. There is a right and left handed version of both the pistol flamer and the other weird pistol. There were of course bolters / bolt pistols and both a power weapon and some chain swords. What I really liked about the weapons was their level of detail and individuality. Even though they are the same war gear a squad of space marines might field every piece of equipment screams sisters, and while easily recognizable is quite different from their marine counterparts. I want to say the weapons are smaller, but they might just be sleeker. One of the bolters comes with a strap.

The last thing I will mention about this new kit is that the jetpacks for the seraphim look much more like, well, like jet packs.

The Penitent engine is back in beautiful, mod-able plastic, and thankfully the remained true to its old design in many ways. It has four different options for its two close combat weapons, though I believe they are just aesthetics, and comes with parts to mount either flamer’s or melta’s under its arms. Looking at the kit, I believe its legs are possible similarly to the sentinels as it has a ball joint for its feet and little nubs / indents at the joint in its leg, which is very exciting since that will give us a lot more options when it comes to dynamic poses. Along with the weapons you also get several choices for drivers 3 icon badge things from the major sisters’ factions. A few other miscellaneous pieces like a scroll plate and such finish off the fun little extra bits.

The repressor is finally making an appearance in plastic as well. It looks similar to the FW one, but has the turret reworked and a different dozer blade. It comes with quite a few options to sister it up, from the same three icons I mentioned above, though slightly bigger, to numerous scrolls and of course options for sister doors. The driver has options for a helmeted head or a regular bobcat sister head with a little microphone thingy.

There is also a kit for a new priest, which I could best compare to the empire wizard kit. Fantasy players will know what I am talking about. There are numerous heads from the bald friar look to the crazy bearded look. Additionally we have options for plasma pistols, bolt pistols, and flamer pistols as well as a book arm and of course a gigantic chain sword. The model doesn’t have anything in the way of armor, though the chain sword looks almost big enough that he could hide behind it.

Well that’s all I have for you for now. Sorry I haven’t much in the way of rules, and that’s always the really exciting part, but I though some folks might like to know a little bit about the new models.

Cheers,
Sexxy Camera

I still have hope for basic plastic sisters, ¿ but no Heavy Flamer in SoB sprue ? Maybe now is "retributor only" or the heavy weapons will be still metal.

**Kroothawk**

In the CoD article, ALL fractions get one new strategem. Picking one and starting a news thread (instead of posting it in the CoD thread) is a bit weird.

But to fill this thread with some real Sororitas rumour, here a small tidbit:

BramGaunt wrote:
Astraeos wrote:The rumours are stating that it'll be a White Dwarf codex. I wouldn't expect any better than some fancy new special rules and brining he list up to date.

Afaik that's exactly what sisters will get, but that does not mean that there aren't some new miniatures in the future. Just to tell you: I was told that there won't be any sisters miniatures alongside with this WD release. They are not that far away, though.
(...)
None of what I said actually HAS to be true, it's just what I told. I'd be happy with new plastic sets, I just wanted to make people aware of the possibility that they may not be out that soon.

Not far away as in not that far away. Remember Warriors of Chaos, who had a WD List for about 6 months?

Current summary by Algorath over at Warseer:

Time frame:
August 2011 White Dwarf/ September second half (?)

Rules:

All Faith generating units get +6 invul save
All units that can get transports get Immolators or Rhinos
No Repressor.
No Arbites

(5) HQ Choices:
Saint Celestine confirmed: "Same price as a Grand Master you get 2+/+4 saves, WS/BS 7 Jump Pack, Fleet, Power Weapons always wounds on 4+ Has the power to come back like GK Thawn if killed."

Cannoness Confirmed

Confessor confirmed: Can bring henchmen in a unit, re-rolls failed to hit and wound for both (her?) and squad.

Elite:
Celestians: Cheaper than 15p, 2 attacks. re-roll to hit

Troop:
Battle Sisters: x10-20 squad with options for Flamers, Heavy Bolters, Meltaguns and Heavy Flamers,

Fast:
Dominion Squads: 4 Special Weapons Weapons become twin-linked

Seraphim: Below 15p; same stats/abilities, melta pistols are now Assault 2. Re-roll to Wound

Heavy:
Exorcist: Roughly same.

Penitent Engines: Same Stats, squadrons, 1d6 attacks w/ wounds generating additional attacks, ++6 i save.

Retributors Squad: Cheaper Weapons Rend(?)

Unsure:
Priests: Same

Repentia: have scout/infiltrate (?), fleet, "Cheaper close to SM cost. FNP, Rage, Fearless, 6+ invul, no transports" Still make attacks if killed.

FAITH
Faith is changing, seems:
Only faithful units can use Faith.
Units have individual Acts of Faith.
Faith powers work with 5+ on d6.
Faithful units generate 1d6 Faith "per turn".
Everything else is unsure ATM.

Models:

Resin:

Nothing yet.

Plastics:

Battle Sisters/Seraphim (x5 per box)
Pentient Enigne
Priest
Repentia (x10 per box)
Repressor (Vehicle)

WD Codex has no Repressor, but a new Repressor model is listed. Makes sense when, as BramGaunt says, Sororitas get their full Codex first half 2012 with all the models listed.

**Guildsman**

Holy expensive units, Batman! If basic sisters come in sets of 5, it's going to be at least $60 to make a full unit! And I'm assuming that you'll need a lot of basic sisters.

**Medium of Death**

Plastic Pentitent engine on the way?

**Evil Lamp 6**

Guildsman wrote:Holy expensive units, Batman! If basic sisters come in sets of 5, it's going to be at least $60 to make a full unit! And I'm assuming that you'll need a lot of basic sisters.

Suddenly I feel less bad about buying my pewter squads of 10 for 50 USD.

**Guildsman**

Evil Lamp 6 wrote:
Guildsman wrote:Holy expensive units, Batman! If basic sisters come in sets of 5, it's going to be at least $60 to make a full unit! And I'm assuming that you'll need a lot of basic sisters.

Suddenly I feel less bad about buying my pewter squads of 10 for 50 USD.

Did the math. A box of five plastic grey knights, with extra parts for halberds, warp packs, etc., costs $33 US. Same with the sanguinary guard and death company box sets, which are each also five marines with a bunch of wargear options. Assuming sisters come out before the next price rise, it'll cost at least $66 US for a full-strength squad. Currently, metal battle sisters are $17.25 for 3 figs, or 5.75 each. This means that a unit of 10 in metal would be $57.50 for 10, or $69 for 4 packages of 3. Turns out being rereleased in plastic will only make sisters more expensive to play.

**lordmoon**

Guildsman wrote:
Evil Lamp 6 wrote:
Guildsman wrote:Holy expensive units, Batman! If basic sisters come in sets of 5, it's going to be at least $60 to make a full unit! And I'm assuming that you'll need a lot of basic sisters.

Suddenly I feel less bad about buying my pewter squads of 10 for 50 USD.

Did the math. A box of five plastic grey knights, with extra parts for halberds, warp packs, etc., costs $33 US. Same with the sanguinary guard and death company box sets, which are each also five marines with a bunch of wargear options. Assuming sisters come out before the next price rise, it'll cost at least $66 US for a full-strength squad. Currently, metal battle sisters are $17.25 for 3 figs, or 5.75 each. This means that a unit of 10 in metal would be $57.50 for 10, or $69 for 4 packages of 3. Turns out being rereleased in plastic will only make sisters more expensive to play.

That's ten sisters with nothing but bolters. Having options in the box counts for a lot.

**Marthike**

Toooooooo expensive. How do they expect us to make squads of 10, grey knight squad is normally 5 but sisters of battle need alot more but still so expensive.

**SagesStone**

Guildsman wrote:Holy expensive units, Batman! If basic sisters come in sets of 5, it's going to be at least $60 to make a full unit! And I'm assuming that you'll need a lot of basic sisters.

This is actually good news slightly, I'm expecting the usual $55 for 5 box here. But it beats buying them 3 at a time with no special weapons for $33 (special weapons $18-$23 extra

)... Kind of sad something like that seems like a price decrease...

If I can manage to find these online at prices similar to what Maelstrom could offer, I might actually buy GW stuff again.

As I've always wanted to get them to apocalypse size, yet GW seems to not want my money at times.

I'll still stick to the units of 10 for the army though as any more and they don't fit into the metal boxes they treasure so much.

**Ratius**

That's ten sisters with nothing but bolters. Having options in the box counts for a lot.

Couldnt disagree more, options are so meh to me, sure they are "nice" but when you are coughing up that much to make multiple squads of 10 I'd be quite happy with everyone being similar. In addition many people (not all) can easily salvage bits from other kits. I have a tonne of marine sprues with special/extra weapons that can be cannabilsed.
The excitement of this Sisters release is sadly tempered by these kit release decisions.

**SagesStone**

The sad part is there is not much room on the existing SoB models to be able to do much in the way of weapon swaps. Flamers and meltas perhaps, but the others fairly less so.

**grizgrin**

Agreed, it takes tools and will to weapon swap the current SoB models. Some have them, some don't.

**carmachu**

n0t_u wrote:The sad part is there is not much room on the existing SoB models to be able to do much in the way of weapon swaps. Flamers and meltas perhaps, but the others fairly less so.

Some basic sisters you can, easily. The sister with the grenade pulling pin, and bolter to the side I've made into meltagun sisters. Plus the retributors can also be made into fun conversions.

**Kroothawk**

Rumour has it that the 5 Sororitas box also includes parts for Celestrians and ... Seraphim!

"Yo dawg. I heard you won't start a Sororitas army because a full metal army is too expensive. We therefore designed a full plastic Sororitas army that is even more expensive. That's listening to the customers, baby!"

**Flashman**

A basic box set of 10 standard sisters would have made more sense, with a upgrade box similar to Legion of the Damned.

I think the operative words here are "would have made more sense".

**Medium of Death**

3 Sister's of Battle cost £10.75 on the GW website? I want a squad of ten.

Sister Superior = £7.70

Imaginifer = £8.20

Special weapon = £6.15

Heavy Weapon = £8.70

So I buy 4 blisters = £43
OR
I buy 2 blisters, Sister Superior, Imagnifier, 2 Special Weapons = £42
OR
Use your imagination, and create a combo of the above prices.

New box of 5 will probably be the same as the Sanguinary Guard - £20.50 (Agree?)

I still want 10.

So I buy 2 boxes = £41

If you factor in buying from discount sites, (which you can't do with the current sisters, as far as i'm aware) it's not that bad.

It's not more expensive, it's really the same price for easier material and more variation.

**andrewm9**

Currently any Sister toting a heavy weapon is 14 dollars US. That's almost as much as the curret pack of 3. You can't tell me that a plastic pack with with all the weapons that makes 5 will cost more than it currently does to make a sqaud of 10 with its heavy flamer and meltagun. Basically to make 3 squads of Sisters currently it costs 229.20 assuming a heavy flamer and meltagun or flamer along with a veteran in each sqaud. This accounts for the fact that there are 3 sisters to pack and it makes use of 7 packs of 3 sisters each. Plastic kits of 5 Sisters at 33$ (Grey Knight prices) each will cost you 198$ total. I doubt it will even cost that much if they don't make it cover every conceivable unit in the codex (like Seraphim). I bet it will be more like 28 or 30 dollars in plastic. If its $28 that will save you an additional 30 dollars. It also leaves you with tons of additional bits for conversions.

Plastic with options will be saving you money on a new army. They will not cost more than the current metal ones unless a serious repacking takes place. If we still had the box of 10 with a flamer and stormbolter along with a vet it woudl be a different story. Obviously I'd prefer a pack of 10 in plastic but given GW's line of thinkign I doubt we will get it.

**androcles138**

Is it actually confirmed that they will be coming out with a 5 box, or is that still rumored?

Reason i ask is that from the rumors i've heard, your basic girls will be getting a points break, making them farther from an MEQ than they already are. Seeing as the armies with recent 'dexes that aren't MEQ (DE, IG, Bugs) have been getting boxes of 10 (12 in the bugs' case). Wouldn't it stand to reason that with a further points reduction these would be the model lines to compare to? A good example, as well as the newest one, of this line of thinking would be the DE kabbalite box. Kabbalites currently weigh in at 9 a model, and with witch hunters 'dex sisters coming in at 11, if they drop the sisters even 1 point they're going to be extremely close to that level.

**pretre**

androcles138 wrote:Is it actually confirmed that they will be coming out with a 5 box, or is that still rumored?

As with most rumors, nothing is confirmed until we see a pre-order.

**htj**

pretre wrote:
androcles138 wrote:Is it actually confirmed that they will be coming out with a 5 box, or is that still rumored?

As with most rumors, nothing is confirmed until we see a pre-order.

Yeah, 24 hours before they come out, most likely.