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A fun topic for laughs. How'd it go if the Waaagh of Gorgutz 'Ead 'Unter got into the M.E. universe, just when ME3 began?

Orks win all.

The only races that can oppose them in Mass Effect are Humanity and Turians. Asari and Salarians lack numbers to oppose them. Not to mention that Repaers will tie the allied forces down and that will leave the Orks to ram unchallenged.

And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Brother Coa wrote:Orks win all.

The only races that can oppose them in Mass Effect are Humanity and Turians. Asari and Salarians lack numbers to oppose them. Not to mention that Repaers will tie the allied forces down and that will leave the Orks to ram unchallenged.

And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

"Oi Boss! We found dis 'ere shiny bitz an' we stuck 'em in our skinz! Now's we'z all flash!"

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

WAAAAAAGH

spectreoneone wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

Orks can't be indoctrinated. Why? "Cuz Mork sez so!"
No really, the power behind the Waaagh! will repulse the indoctrinating fields.

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

Orks can't be indoctrinated. Why? "Cuz Mork sez so!"
No really, the power behind the Waaagh! will repulse the indoctrinating fields.

I'd have to disagree...the Reapers would just have to toss them on the dragon's teeth, just like they do with the humans to turn them into husks...would replace their innards with bio-machinery. Even the biotically-strong Asari can't resist that...I'd say that the Orks would be plenty vulnerable.

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

Orks can't be indoctrinated. Why? "Cuz Mork sez so!"
No really, the power behind the Waaagh! will repulse the indoctrinating fields.

I'd have to disagree...the Reapers would just have to toss them on the dragon's teeth, just like they do with the humans to turn them into husks...would replace their innards with bio-machinery. Even the biotically-strong Asari can't resist that...I'd say that the Orks would be plenty vulnerable.

I have to disagree on that. The Orks' fungal structure is too complicated for the Flood, let alone the nanomachines in the Teeth.

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

Orks can't be indoctrinated. Why? "Cuz Mork sez so!"
No really, the power behind the Waaagh! will repulse the indoctrinating fields.

I'd have to disagree...the Reapers would just have to toss them on the dragon's teeth, just like they do with the humans to turn them into husks...would replace their innards with bio-machinery. Even the biotically-strong Asari can't resist that...I'd say that the Orks would be plenty vulnerable.

I have to disagree on that. The Orks' fungal structure is too complicated for the Flood, let alone the nanomachines in the Teeth.

What makes it so complicated? If they can combine two creatures whose protein bases are incompatible (Turian and Krogan, in the form of a Brute), why can't they nanomolecularly work on a creature who is partially fungal? The key to the process are the nano machines, which work on the molecular level, which is sub-cellular, thus it can rearrange molecules within cells as it sees fit.

spectreoneone wrote:
What makes it so complicated? If they can combine two creatures whose protein bases are incompatible (Turian and Krogan, in the form of a Brute), why can't they nanomolecularly work on a creature who is partially fungal? The key to the process are the nano machines, which work on the molecular level, which is sub-cellular, thus it can rearrange molecules within cells as it sees fit.

Chaos have a hard time corrupting Orks, technology have even less chance them Immaterium.
Orks are also very resistant to mind control, if they weren't Eldar would have much easier time manipulating them then usual.
And Orks have insane numbers on their side, no matter how much Repaers kill them much more will come back, even if indoctrinated Ork is killed hundreds of ordinary ones will be born.
In the end even Repers will fail because they to will be overruned by the green horde.

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

Orks can't be indoctrinated. Why? "Cuz Mork sez so!"
No really, the power behind the Waaagh! will repulse the indoctrinating fields.

I'd have to disagree...the Reapers would just have to toss them on the dragon's teeth, just like they do with the humans to turn them into husks...would replace their innards with bio-machinery. Even the biotically-strong Asari can't resist that...I'd say that the Orks would be plenty vulnerable.

I have to disagree on that. The Orks' fungal structure is too complicated for the Flood, let alone the nanomachines in the Teeth.

What makes it so complicated? If they can combine two creatures whose protein bases are incompatible (Turian and Krogan, in the form of a Brute), why can't they nanomolecularly work on a creature who is partially fungal? The key to the process are the nano machines, which work on the molecular level, which is sub-cellular, thus it can rearrange molecules within cells as it sees fit.

One word: the Thorian.


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spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

Orks can't be indoctrinated. Why? "Cuz Mork sez so!"
No really, the power behind the Waaagh! will repulse the indoctrinating fields.

I'd have to disagree...the Reapers would just have to toss them on the dragon's teeth, just like they do with the humans to turn them into husks...would replace their innards with bio-machinery. Even the biotically-strong Asari can't resist that...I'd say that the Orks would be plenty vulnerable.

Plus, if we're still on the indoctrination subject, dragon's teeth have nothing to do with that. It's 2 different processes. Yea, Orkz could be turned into Husks, one at a time, but Orkz can reproduce so fast that the process of becoming a Husk is almost irrelevant as the Orkz would overwhelm their Husk counterparts. And finally, being a Husk would remove one of the main aspects of the power of the Orkz
That being their communal psyker ability that allows them to alter reality with enough belief. The Husk cannot believe and would therefore be little more than a really big human-like Husk

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

Orks can't be indoctrinated. Why? "Cuz Mork sez so!"
No really, the power behind the Waaagh! will repulse the indoctrinating fields.

I'd have to disagree...the Reapers would just have to toss them on the dragon's teeth, just like they do with the humans to turn them into husks...would replace their innards with bio-machinery. Even the biotically-strong Asari can't resist that...I'd say that the Orks would be plenty vulnerable.

I have to disagree on that. The Orks' fungal structure is too complicated for the Flood, let alone the nanomachines in the Teeth.

What makes it so complicated? If they can combine two creatures whose protein bases are incompatible (Turian and Krogan, in the form of a Brute), why can't they nanomolecularly work on a creature who is partially fungal? The key to the process are the nano machines, which work on the molecular level, which is sub-cellular, thus it can rearrange molecules within cells as it sees fit.

One word: the Thorian.

What about it? Sure, it's a huge, sentient plant, but it was not beneficial to the Reapers, else I'm sure they would have found a way to indoctrinate it. More likely than not, they would have just destroyed it, but I am sure that they could have adapted their methods of molecular reconstruction to turn it into a bionic machine.
What is being forgotten by a lot of these pro-Orks arguments is the fact that the Reapers are far more advanced than any of the races of the 40k universe. I understand that the Orks are nigh-incorruptible by psychic means, but what is being discussed here is not mind control, but the entire reconstruction of the molecular makeup of a creature. When you're talking about changing something on a molecular level, no amount of regeneration stop that. Not to mention that once the Ork has been turned, it would cease to be an Ork, thus it's abilities to spawn new Orks would most likely be negated...or if it were not, it could spawn new indoctrinated Orks...a terrifying thought for those opposing the Reapers.

Edit: Okay, just as a clarification, I'm placing indoctrination in with changing a creature into a husk, as although both processes are somewhat different, they are part of the same line of thought...gaining forces for the Reapers. Additionally, although the Ork communal psychic ability might be gone (and I will say might, because the Asari banshees still retain their biotics), their brute strength, and quite possibly their regeneration could be taken advantage of...they'd make formidable shock troops.

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

Orks can't be indoctrinated. Why? "Cuz Mork sez so!"
No really, the power behind the Waaagh! will repulse the indoctrinating fields.

I'd have to disagree...the Reapers would just have to toss them on the dragon's teeth, just like they do with the humans to turn them into husks...would replace their innards with bio-machinery. Even the biotically-strong Asari can't resist that...I'd say that the Orks would be plenty vulnerable.

I have to disagree on that. The Orks' fungal structure is too complicated for the Flood, let alone the nanomachines in the Teeth.

What makes it so complicated? If they can combine two creatures whose protein bases are incompatible (Turian and Krogan, in the form of a Brute), why can't they nanomolecularly work on a creature who is partially fungal? The key to the process are the nano machines, which work on the molecular level, which is sub-cellular, thus it can rearrange molecules within cells as it sees fit.

One word: the Thorian.

What about it? Sure, it's a huge, sentient plant, but it was not beneficial to the Reapers, else I'm sure they would have found a way to indoctrinate it. More likely than not, they would have just destroyed it, but I am sure that they could have adapted their methods of molecular reconstruction to turn it into a bionic machine.
What is being forgotten by a lot of these pro-Orks arguments is the fact that the Reapers are far more advanced than any of the races of the 40k universe. I understand that the Orks are nigh-incorruptible by psychic means, but what is being discussed here is not mind control, but the entire reconstruction of the molecular makeup of a creature. When you're talking about changing something on a molecular level, no amount of regeneration stop that. Not to mention that once the Ork has been turned, it would cease to be an Ork, thus it's abilities to spawn new Orks would most likely be negated...or if it were not, it could spawn new indoctrinated Orks...a terrifying thought for those opposing the Reapers.

You're dang wrong on that. I can name at least 2 40k races that are superior to the Reapers in every way. The Necrons and the Tyranids.

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

Orks can't be indoctrinated. Why? "Cuz Mork sez so!"
No really, the power behind the Waaagh! will repulse the indoctrinating fields.

I'd have to disagree...the Reapers would just have to toss them on the dragon's teeth, just like they do with the humans to turn them into husks...would replace their innards with bio-machinery. Even the biotically-strong Asari can't resist that...I'd say that the Orks would be plenty vulnerable.

I have to disagree on that. The Orks' fungal structure is too complicated for the Flood, let alone the nanomachines in the Teeth.

What makes it so complicated? If they can combine two creatures whose protein bases are incompatible (Turian and Krogan, in the form of a Brute), why can't they nanomolecularly work on a creature who is partially fungal? The key to the process are the nano machines, which work on the molecular level, which is sub-cellular, thus it can rearrange molecules within cells as it sees fit.

One word: the Thorian.

What about it? Sure, it's a huge, sentient plant, but it was not beneficial to the Reapers, else I'm sure they would have found a way to indoctrinate it. More likely than not, they would have just destroyed it, but I am sure that they could have adapted their methods of molecular reconstruction to turn it into a bionic machine.
What is being forgotten by a lot of these pro-Orks arguments is the fact that the Reapers are far more advanced than any of the races of the 40k universe. I understand that the Orks are nigh-incorruptible by psychic means, but what is being discussed here is not mind control, but the entire reconstruction of the molecular makeup of a creature. When you're talking about changing something on a molecular level, no amount of regeneration stop that. Not to mention that once the Ork has been turned, it would cease to be an Ork, thus it's abilities to spawn new Orks would most likely be negated...or if it were not, it could spawn new indoctrinated Orks...a terrifying thought for those opposing the Reapers.

You're dang wrong on that. I can name at least 2 40k races that are superior to the Reapers in every way. The Necrons and the Tyranids.

Am I, though? Honestly, if you claim that only the Necrons and Tyranids are more advanced, why aren't the rest of the 40k races licking their boots? Sure, the Tyranids are very biologically advanced, but that serves just as much as a disadvantage as it is an advantage. Being almost exclusively biological leaves the entire race vulnerable to infection(or in the case of the Reapers, indoctrination, or molecular realignment), and no matter of biodiversity and evolutionary adaptation can resist every single pathogen. Nevertheless, evolutionarily superior does not equal most advanced, at least in technological terms. As for the Necrons, I would say they would be the closest to the Reapers in terms of technology, but even they had to be assisted by the C'tan to take on their machine form. Additionally, being machines, they could potentially fall victim to the Reapers, much like the Geth (more likely than not, though, it would only end up being the warriors, due to the fact that they're pretty much mindless machines). The biggest problem with these comparisons, though, is that the science of the ME universe is more based in reality than the 40k universe, which seriously ignores so many scientific laws it's not even funny, which turns this argument into a child's game of cops and robbers, where each kid says they shot the other....

Err, isn't it specifically stated that even when Genestealers try and Steal Ork Genes, the Orks eventually become Orks again?
Wouldn't that be an argument in favor of the Orks in the Reaper scenario?

But the Necrons did enslave the C'tan

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

spectreoneone wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:And after Ork loot Reaper technology, well.....

Cuts both ways, though...the Reapers will most surely indoctrinate whatever Orks they could...indoctrinated Nobs fighting alongside brutes and banshees? Not a good time for anybody....

Orks can't be indoctrinated. Why? "Cuz Mork sez so!"
No really, the power behind the Waaagh! will repulse the indoctrinating fields.

I'd have to disagree...the Reapers would just have to toss them on the dragon's teeth, just like they do with the humans to turn them into husks...would replace their innards with bio-machinery. Even the biotically-strong Asari can't resist that...I'd say that the Orks would be plenty vulnerable.

I have to disagree on that. The Orks' fungal structure is too complicated for the Flood, let alone the nanomachines in the Teeth.

What makes it so complicated? If they can combine two creatures whose protein bases are incompatible (Turian and Krogan, in the form of a Brute), why can't they nanomolecularly work on a creature who is partially fungal? The key to the process are the nano machines, which work on the molecular level, which is sub-cellular, thus it can rearrange molecules within cells as it sees fit.

One word: the Thorian.

What about it? Sure, it's a huge, sentient plant, but it was not beneficial to the Reapers, else I'm sure they would have found a way to indoctrinate it. More likely than not, they would have just destroyed it, but I am sure that they could have adapted their methods of molecular reconstruction to turn it into a bionic machine.
What is being forgotten by a lot of these pro-Orks arguments is the fact that the Reapers are far more advanced than any of the races of the 40k universe. I understand that the Orks are nigh-incorruptible by psychic means, but what is being discussed here is not mind control, but the entire reconstruction of the molecular makeup of a creature. When you're talking about changing something on a molecular level, no amount of regeneration stop that. Not to mention that once the Ork has been turned, it would cease to be an Ork, thus it's abilities to spawn new Orks would most likely be negated...or if it were not, it could spawn new indoctrinated Orks...a terrifying thought for those opposing the Reapers.

You're dang wrong on that. I can name at least 2 40k races that are superior to the Reapers in every way. The Necrons and the Tyranids.

Am I, though? Honestly, if you claim that only the Necrons and Tyranids are more advanced, why aren't the rest of the 40k races licking their boots? Sure, the Tyranids are very biologically advanced, but that serves just as much as a disadvantage as it is an advantage. Being almost exclusively biological leaves the entire race vulnerable to infection(or in the case of the Reapers, indoctrination, or molecular realignment), and no matter of biodiversity and evolutionary adaptation can resist every single pathogen. Nevertheless, evolutionarily superior does not equal most advanced, at least in technological terms. As for the Necrons, I would say they would be the closest to the Reapers in terms of technology, but even they had to be assisted by the C'tan to take on their machine form. Additionally, being machines, they could potentially fall victim to the Reapers, much like the Geth (more likely than not, though, it would only end up being the warriors, due to the fact that they're pretty much mindless machines). The biggest problem with these comparisons, though, is that the science of the ME universe is more based in reality than the 40k universe, which seriously ignores so many scientific laws it's not even funny, which turns this argument into a child's game of cops and robbers, where each kid says they shot the other....

Wrong again. You obviously know nothing about the extent of the Tyranids and the Hive Mind. Firstly, they don't just take an age long nap in the dark space, they travel through it, without effort. Secondly, any of the Tyranid hive fleets is a bigger disaster than the Reapers. The Hive Mind controls the whole Tyranid race and can create the Shadow in the Warp in the process. Indoctrinating a bioform that's directly connected to the Hive Mind would be the biggest mistake the Reapers could do. And don't forget the Tyranids do on regular basis, what the Reapers take much longer to do: reproduce. I dread to think what would happen if the the Tyranids produced a bioform from Reaper material...

Now for the Necrons. Comparing them to the Geth (and the Reapers) is like comparing a toaster to the Skynet. They're millions of years old, which alone places them on par with the Reapers. Unlike the Reapers, they can also do things like resurrection, time alteration and phase shifting. Also, a Necron tomb ship can not only traverse the galaxy in hours without the Warp or Mass Relay, but also travel to Mars, while shrugging off fire from the Battlefleet Solar, which no Reaper could manage.


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matphat wrote:Err, isn't it specifically stated that even when Genestealers try and Steal Ork Genes, the Orks eventually become Orks again?
Wouldn't that be an argument in favor of the Orks in the Reaper scenario?

Definitely.

matphat wrote:Err, isn't it specifically stated that even when Genestealers try and Steal Ork Genes, the Orks eventually become Orks again?
Wouldn't that be an argument in favor of the Orks in the Reaper scenario?

Can I get a reference on that?

Well, if I'm not mistaken Mass Effect weapons are just as effective as modern day assault rifles since you don't gib anyone when you shoot someone with them. Lasguns, on the other hand, are much more potent that your standard ME Assault Rifle. And Orks can shrug off even Lasgun rounds. An Ork WAAAAAGGHHH would devastate the ME 'verse. What one must remember, though, is that the Warhammer 40k universe is designed to be really, really over the top while the Mass Effect universe was written with believability in mind. WH40k weaponry is stupidly, stupidly powerful. As for the Reapers... they are in between Imperium of Man and Tau, with some Necron mixed in.

With indoctrination, Orks would be incredibly difficult to indoctrinate. Besides the fact that Orks could take on the reapers in space combat, they are sort of... simple. And a few Boyz who started mumbling about the Reapers wouldn't make a difference in the vast ranks of them.

That would be 39 million Joules in case anyone is wondering

Reapers, hands down.

The size of their fleets puts even 40K's sense of scale to shame.

These are, effectively, singular planet-killers that arrive not in dozens, not in scores, not even by the hundreds, but by the thousands. Each one of them is far more powerful than the greatest ships we've seen in 40K, blowing other vessels utterly apart with a single lance-battery. Against the Tyranids? Whoopty-do... the smaller fighters will simply disintegrate on their energy shields, while the Reapers perform some "particle cannon surgery" on the Hive Ships by basically disintegrating them. I'd give a full-blown Hive Fleet a week, tops, before being utterly annihilated.

Psienesis wrote:Reapers, hands down.

The size of their fleets puts even 40K's sense of scale to shame.

These are, effectively, singular planet-killers that arrive not in dozens, not in scores, not even by the hundreds, but by the thousands. Each one of them is far more powerful than the greatest ships we've seen in 40K, blowing other vessels utterly apart with a single lance-battery. Against the Tyranids? Whoopty-do... the smaller fighters will simply disintegrate on their energy shields, while the Reapers perform some "particle cannon surgery" on the Hive Ships by basically disintegrating them. I'd give a full-blown Hive Fleet a week, tops, before being utterly annihilated.

LOL!

Sorry, but that's the only reaction I could give. Saying the Reapers are stronger than the 40k races is like saying a 10 year old Jedi padawan is stronger than the Sith Emperor.
Firstly, the Reapers are only 2km large, so even the Imperial ships dwarf them utterly, and lance weapons are infinitely more powerful than those molten metal beams the Reapers use. Also, their KINETIC BARRIERS are absolutely useless against 90% of 40k weapons. Why? Because they're energy based and kinetic barriers offer no defense against energy weapons!
And the Tyranids are 1000 times more numerous than the Reapers and far more dangerous, if even the Necrons see them as an imminent danger. The Tyranids have already consumed more than 1000 galaxies in their history. The Reapers have only been squandering around the M.E. galaxy all the time.

What the hell is an "energy weapon?"

TedNugent wrote:What the hell is an "energy weapon?"

A super powered beam of laser or plasma death <D

Contrary to what the Mass Effect fanboiz believe A) Reaper weapons are not energy based. Only the Collectors had particle beams and the Occuli have small lasers and B) Kinetic Barriers only work against solid projectiles, not Directed Energy Weapons!!!>

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

TedNugent wrote:What the hell is an "energy weapon?"

A super powered beam of laser or plasma death <D

Contrary to what the Mass Effect fanboiz believe A) Reaper weapons are not energy based. Only the Collectors had particle beams and the Occuli have small lasers and B) Kinetic Barriers only work against solid projectiles, not Directed Energy Weapons!!!>

You do realize that solid projectiles impart force via kinetic energy, right?

Do you also realize that lasers are just photons and that plasma is just ionized gas?

In fact, I just gave you a measure of the kinetic energy that is imparted by a Dreadnought class battleship weapon in Mass effect - 39 million Joules - Joules is a measure of kinetic energy.

Also, in the modern day we have non-solid weapons. HEAT anti-tank weapons like RPGs direct superheated gas at the armor.

TedNugent wrote:

Grand_Zamboa wrote:

TedNugent wrote:What the hell is an "energy weapon?"

A super powered beam of laser or plasma death <D

Contrary to what the Mass Effect fanboiz believe A) Reaper weapons are not energy based. Only the Collectors had particle beams and the Occuli have small lasers and B) Kinetic Barriers only work against solid projectiles, not Directed Energy Weapons!!!>

You do realize that solid projectiles impart force via kinetic energy, right?

Do you also realize that lasers are just photons and that plasma is just ionized gas?

In fact, I just gave you a measure of the kinetic energy that is imparted by a Dreadnought class battleship weapon in Mass effect - 39 million Joules - Joules is a measure of kinetic energy.

Also, in the modern day we have non-solid weapons. HEAT anti-tank weapons like RPGs direct superheated gas at the armor.

You know what I meant -_-
Lasers and that sort. If I meant kinetic energy, I'd have said 'projectile weapons' or something like that.
But thanks for your input.

TedNugent wrote:[
In fact, I just gave you a measure of the kinetic energy that is imparted by a Dreadnought class battleship weapon in Mass effect - 39 million Joules - Joules is a measure of kinetic energy.

A Joule is a measure of energy, not specifically kinetic energy. Check your food packaging and you'll see the energy content listed in joules for chemical energy. Otherwise, I agree

It doesn't matter anyway 'cos Chuck Norris would be dragged trhough the same time/reality warp and ownx00r all!

The orks would win only because of fungal spread.

Even knowing their biology and how to conquer it, the Imperium must spend immense amount of resources scouring even defeated orks from a planet (Source: Fifteen Hours)

I believe that someone without an understanding of ork biology and with the misconception that it operates anything like a normal humanoid would be drowned in newly-spawned orks continuously until they finally figured it out - which might be hard, as this is an out-of-context problem for the MEverse.

Well, I bet some smart Salarian (= Mordin) would manage to cook up an ork genophage and stop that fungal spread.

I don't see the reapers winning though. After all, the orks are going to build a gun that fires thresher maws

Jidmah wrote:Well, I bet some smart Salarian (= Mordin) would manage to cook up an ork genophage and stop that fungal spread.

I don't see the reapers winning though. After all, the orks are going to build a gun that fires thresher maws

Just like the Tyranids did on Octavius? You know, that race who manipulates genes for the lulz? (I kid, I kid)

And yes. The orks will not only build a gun that shoots thresher maws but they will strap a Howdah to its back, and then put squiggoths in the howdah.