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To put it in a space marine context do any of you guys actually believe that the upcoming campaign will dwarf the entire Horus herecy ?

I think it will squat it.

 oldzoggy wrote:
To put it in a space marine context do any of you guys actually believe that the upcoming campaign will dwarf the entire Horus herecy ?

No. Why would it?

 Eldarain wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
To put it in a space marine context do any of you guys actually believe that the upcoming campaign will dwarf the entire Horus herecy ?

No. Why would it?

It could go all the way to a siege of terra.

Allegedly there is going to be a Tau break out during next years global campaign. How reliable that part of the rumor mill is I don't know. Seems plausible with the plotline to invent a faster FTL drive than our current one which is slower than true warp drive.

If that happens you can bet gak will hit the fan for sure. One of the things slowing us down is two fold. One we have slower ships so it means we need a lot more of our forces dedicated to patrols and set up so they can quickly relay to hot spots where needed. Two the slower drive limits how far we can go in single leaps and overall expansion of the Empires borders since if we expand too far too fast without adequate supply chain we can over extend and its GG.

As a big Tau fan I can say that is a plausibility as well as some other stuff.

As for my dark kin I know there is that gate Vect is trying to protect and I think in lore rumors of some sort of dark wraithguard project or something. I don't know my DE lore as well as I would like. The Eldar wide plot to resurrect Yennead seems to have hit a snag so it remains to be seen where they will turn. Allegedly one shard of him escaped.

We all have heard solid rumors of primarchs returning. Could this get as big as the Horus Heresy? It could get bigger if the SIlent King wakes up and all the end game planes of the factions are put in motion. It might take the Prmiarchs to stave off the tide.

 oldzoggy wrote:
To put it in a space marine context do any of you guys actually believe that the upcoming campaign will dwarf the entire Horus herecy ?

GW has more resources than FW so if GW wants to they can. I think they are trying to do something as big as FW's Horus Heresy series. That series has really driven the single greatest increase in the purchase of models that GW and FW combined have seen since GW did Lord of the Rings. So GW has the means and motivation to make something bigger than the Heresy series has been. To that end GW will very likely try to make this new campaign fictionally as significant as the Heresy itself.

This type of narrative driven game play is what GW really wants to push, but I think the biggest challenge to it is that the players most interested in this type of play are already playing FW's Horus Heresy campaign setting.

I very much doubt tau will end up like that. They will be busy getting smashed by the huge IoM fleet that's headed their way.

Imperium of Man on one end, the Tyranids on the other.. Tau sandwich good ya'll.

I can't wait for the blueberries to try and reason with the Tyranids, only to get nommed on a little. Too bad what should happen in the fluff is all but impossible to execute in the game.

I really want the Tyranids to get a new Big Bug. Something on the order of a Wraithknight or Stormsurge in terms of power and cost.

You know what???? This is a good time to be a 40k fan and that's what matters. The setting has been dull as mist for ages and now GW are putting effort into making it good again. It may not go quickly but its shaping up to have a good run into the next edition. Obviously 8th edition will make or break GW. Time will tell

But isn't 8th edition just a patched up version of 7th?

Sad Panda has implied that 8th will be quite different from 7th and that is a big reason why it has been campaign books instead of Codexes for some time now (Deathwatch being a welcome exception to the trend)

If it is the game's done. 7th has to be the worst set of rules ever produced by any company. A patch wont fix it. Needs a total reboot and GW know this. If they call it in again like 6th to 7th the damage would be irreparable

Biggest worry for me is, just how badly the new ruleset will feth over the current Heresy rules done by Forge World. I'd hate having to rebuy their red books yet again.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I really want the Tyranids to get a new Big Bug. Something on the order of a Wraithknight or Stormsurge in terms of power and cost.

Don't get too excited. It'd still be T6.

 BrookM wrote:
Biggest worry for me is, just how badly the new ruleset will feth over the current Heresy rules done by Forge World. I'd hate having to rebuy their red books yet again.

Yeah. That stung. I was just eyeing up the digital versions contemplating them in hopes they might offer the upgrade the way they did with Kill Team when an update comes.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I really want the Tyranids to get a new Big Bug. Something on the order of a Wraithknight or Stormsurge in terms of power and cost.

Don't get too excited. It'd still be T6.

I'd still take it. Right now we have much less powerful for twice the cost. Anywhere close to equal on either front would be a huge improvement.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I can't wait for the blueberries to try and reason with the Tyranids, only to get nommed on a little. Too bad what should happen in the fluff is all but impossible to execute in the game.

I am pretty sure they have done that in the fluff, got nommed and decided not to do that again. They may be blue, but that doesn't mean they are stupid.

There is a very clear difference between attempting to befriend a species and arrange an agreement that is for the 'greater good' and being willfully stupid and climbing into a carnifex's mouth.
After any real interaction with the 'nids it is pretty clear that negotiation is off the table.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I really want the Tyranids to get a new Big Bug. Something on the order of a Wraithknight or Stormsurge in terms of power and cost.

Don't get too excited. It'd still be T6.

That would be disappointing. Tyranid players (read: not me) deserve something better than that.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I really want the Tyranids to get a new Big Bug. Something on the order of a Wraithknight or Stormsurge in terms of power and cost.

Don't get too excited. It'd still be T6.

Don't be such a negative nancy! It will be T6 and have FNP whenever it succeds with "Howling Roar", a special rule that doesn't work against Fearless and ATSKNF, that will show them Orkz!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I can't wait for the blueberries to try and reason with the Tyranids, only to get nommed on a little. Too bad what should happen in the fluff is all but impossible to execute in the game.

I really want the Tyranids to get a new Big Bug. Something on the order of a Wraithknight or Stormsurge in terms of power and cost.

There are people who still think the Tau send peace offers to the orks and nids? They've begun to cease diplomatic contact with some races for obvious reasons. I can't wait for next years campaign. I'll have to bring my AAA game for the Farsight Enclaves (Tau).

 Gamgee wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I can't wait for the blueberries to try and reason with the Tyranids, only to get nommed on a little. Too bad what should happen in the fluff is all but impossible to execute in the game.

I really want the Tyranids to get a new Big Bug. Something on the order of a Wraithknight or Stormsurge in terms of power and cost.

There are people who still think the Tau send peace offers to the orks and nids? They've begun to cease diplomatic contact with some races for obvious reasons. I can't wait for next years campaign. I'll have to bring my AAA game for the Farsight Enclaves (Tau).

Tau have barely had any contact with nids, so why would they know to not try diplomacy? Literally the only race fluffwise Tau don't try and negotiate with is the Orks, for obvious reasons

Okay your pulling my leg. Nice try. Anyways enough of Tau I can't wait to show that redeployment pick to my IG friend.

Grot Orderly posting a thing regarding a new BA vs CSM Supplement

Anyone else got new on this?

 Motograter wrote:
You know what???? This is a good time to be a 40k fan and that's what matters. The setting has been dull as mist for ages and now GW are putting effort into making it good again. It may not go quickly but its shaping up to have a good run into the next edition. Obviously 8th edition will make or break GW. Time will tell

Agreed!

From war of sigmar (atia blog)


So this week we will hear about the new Supplement for Blood Angels, called Angel's Blade. It will involve Chaos Space Marines invasion on some planet (of course). 9 new formations, 2 new detachments as well as Death Company relics and tactical objectives, wargear upgrades and 3 new missions to top it all of.
New Blood Angel Termie Captain DC Chaplain and updates to Assault and Devastator squads.

Angels' Blade (supplement) - 30GBP / 39EUR
BA Death Company Strike Force - 80GBP / 105EUR
BA Archangels Orbital Intervention Force - 80GBP / 100EUR
BA Chapter Ancients - 65GBP / 80EUR

We will also get new boxes for Blood Angels Vanguard, Assault, Sternguard and Company Command.

Oh I can't wait to see the Dark Eldar end times release is. Rumor has it next year is also exodites. If DE get even a model or two I'll be happy. Even just formations and a part in the story. Something to give them a boost.

zamerion wrote:
From war of sigmar (atia blog)


So this week we will hear about the new Supplement for Blood Angels, called Angel's Blade. It will involve Chaos Space Marines invasion on some planet (of course). 9 new formations, 2 new detachments as well as Death Company relics and tactical objectives, wargear upgrades and 3 new missions to top it all of.
New Blood Angel Termie Captain DC Chaplain and updates to Assault and Devastator squads.

Angels' Blade (supplement) - 30GBP / 39EUR
BA Death Company Strike Force - 80GBP / 105EUR
BA Archangels Orbital Intervention Force - 80GBP / 100EUR
BA Chapter Ancients - 65GBP / 80EUR

We will also get new boxes for Blood Angels Vanguard, Assault, Sternguard and Company Command.

Yay
Exciting news for both BA AND CSM players!

But how can the Blood Angels be back in number when they've lost close to everything during the Shield of Baal campaign?

zamerion wrote:
From war of sigmar (atia blog)


So this week we will hear about the new Supplement for Blood Angels, called Angel's Blade. It will involve Chaos Space Marines invasion on some planet (of course). 9 new formations, 2 new detachments as well as Death Company relics and tactical objectives, wargear upgrades and 3 new missions to top it all of.
New Blood Angel Termie Captain DC Chaplain and updates to Assault and Devastator squads.

Angels' Blade (supplement) - 30GBP / 39EUR
BA Death Company Strike Force - 80GBP / 105EUR
BA Archangels Orbital Intervention Force - 80GBP / 100EUR
BA Chapter Ancients - 65GBP / 80EUR

We will also get new boxes for Blood Angels Vanguard, Assault, Sternguard and Company Command.

Well, feth. They might actually get some money out of me for my Blood Angels. Especially if the formations are actually good. At any rate, I will probably get Angel's Blade.

Now, I am curious if the updates to the Assault and Devastator Squads are going to be new kits or just updated rules. If it is new kits, PLEASE BE FRAG CANNON DEVASTATORS! If it is just new rules, Grav Cannons for Blood Angels Devastators confirmed! Which is great, because I only need to get one box of Devastators.