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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/17 20:32:48
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Calculating Commissar
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Ok, so I have just read the intro to the Eisenhorn trilogy omnibus thingey, which is written by Abnett, and can't help thinking that something is lacking from BL at the moment. He was incredibly enthusiastic to work on those books, from what he has written, he wasn't commissioned, someone showed him Inquisitor's source material, and he then requested he could write a novel about it, hopefully in time for a simultaneous release. Compare this to the current commissioned tie-in works such as for the Ad Mech stuff recently. Pity :( Onto reading these books...
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ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/18 01:50:23
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Otiose in a Niche
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Formosa wrote:ADB is hands down better than Abnett, after reading a ADB book I always think "How is this guy working for GW" he has brought a lot of credibility to the 40k universe, and abnett brings the same, just (on the whole) not as well written.
Bold words, I'd be willing to give it a test. Remind me who ADB is and can you recommend a book to start wtih? I love 40k books that focus on humans (esp Inquisition, Rogue Traders, Arbites types) and have yet to read a good SM centered book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/18 01:51:19
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Kid_Kyoto wrote: Formosa wrote:ADB is hands down better than Abnett, after reading a ADB book I always think "How is this guy working for GW" he has brought a lot of credibility to the 40k universe, and abnett brings the same, just (on the whole) not as well written.
Bold words, I'd be willing to give it a test. Remind me who ADB is and can you recommend a book to start wtih? I love 40k books that focus on humans (esp Inquisition, Rogue Traders, Arbites types) and have yet to read a good SM centered book.
His Night Lords trilogy is good(Soul Hunter->Blood Reaver->Void Stalker) but Cadian Blood is a personal favorite of mine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/18 01:57:38
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Or try Betrayer for a sterling attempt at giving the entirely one dimensional Angron and the World Eaters some tangible depth.
Not entirely successful all the time, but in this I think he wins overall, he certainly has a better crack at it than I deemed possible before reading it.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/18 02:35:17
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Dakka Veteran
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Betrayer is my HH fave. excellent book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/18 04:36:02
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Or First Heretic, clearly meant to be read before Betrayer!
Great book, makes you root for what was once the wimpiest Primarch
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/18 07:06:12
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Kid_Kyoto wrote: Formosa wrote:ADB is hands down better than Abnett, after reading a ADB book I always think "How is this guy working for GW" he has brought a lot of credibility to the 40k universe, and abnett brings the same, just (on the whole) not as well written.
Bold words, I'd be willing to give it a test. Remind me who ADB is and can you recommend a book to start wtih? I love 40k books that focus on humans (esp Inquisition, Rogue Traders, Arbites types) and have yet to read a good SM centered book.
You'll love his novels then, as they almost always revolve around that one semi-loner Space Marine who hangs out a lot with human crew and the like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/18 07:07:54
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Kid_Kyoto wrote: Formosa wrote:ADB is hands down better than Abnett, after reading a ADB book I always think "How is this guy working for GW" he has brought a lot of credibility to the 40k universe, and abnett brings the same, just (on the whole) not as well written.
Bold words, I'd be willing to give it a test. Remind me who ADB is and can you recommend a book to start wtih? I love 40k books that focus on humans (esp Inquisition, Rogue Traders, Arbites types) and have yet to read a good SM centered book.
Night Lords, Betrayer, and the Talon of Horus are all excellent reads. He's also written a really good Guard book, Cadian Blood.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/18 09:40:20
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Calculating Commissar
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I enjoyed Helsreach greatly  Grimaldus was nice, but it was the human soldiers and snippets of live on Armageddon I found most interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/18 19:14:18
Subject: Re: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Splog wrote:Abnett's Horus Heresy work may have been delayed by his upcoming 32nd Millenium novel: http://www.amazon.co.uk/I-am-Slaughter-Dan-Abnett/dp/1784960543/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437156028&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=i+am+slaugher
"It is the thirty-second millennium and the Imperium is at peace. The Traitor Legions of Chaos are but a distant memory and the many alien races that have long plagued mankind are held in check by the Space Marines. When a mission to exterminate one such xenos breed on the world of Ardamantua draws in more of their forces, the Imperial Fists abandon the walls of Terra for the first time in more than a thousand years. And when another, greater, foe strikes, even the heroic sons of Rogal Dorn may be powerless against it. The Beast Arises...and it is mighty."
A stand-alone? A new Abnett series? The start of a new multi-author arc?
Ooooo lovely can't wait. It's down as £12.99 in hardcover, I smell novella? Still good to see he is sill kicking!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/19 03:18:52
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Formosa wrote:ADB is hands down better than Abnett, after reading a ADB book I always think "How is this guy working for GW" he has brought a lot of credibility to the 40k universe, and abnett brings the same, just (on the whole) not as well written.
He made Angron a sympathetic and complex character. Angron. (I still can't believe ADB made the go-to berserker fodder faction into a group of well developed and tragic characters that are all the victims of both their own and the Emperor's folly)
He really needs to be somewhere better (I do love his 40K stuff, it really captures the setting far better than anyone else IMO) I do know he's working on some kind of unrelated webcomic.
I'd love to see ADB do his own sort of GoT or even 40K style books but outside of the GeeDubs sphere of influence. Automatically Appended Next Post: Wyzilla wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote: Formosa wrote:ADB is hands down better than Abnett, after reading a ADB book I always think "How is this guy working for GW" he has brought a lot of credibility to the 40k universe, and abnett brings the same, just (on the whole) not as well written.
Bold words, I'd be willing to give it a test. Remind me who ADB is and can you recommend a book to start wtih? I love 40k books that focus on humans (esp Inquisition, Rogue Traders, Arbites types) and have yet to read a good SM centered book.
Night Lords, Betrayer, and the Talon of Horus are all excellent reads. He's also written a really good Guard book, Cadian Blood.
Cadian Blood was the first thing ADB wrote for BL, with Helsreach being the one that made him a fan favorite and the NL novels cementing him as being on the same level (maybe exceeding) Dan Abnett (whose stuff I really like as well, especially his 2000AD stuff)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/19 03:51:42
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Bronzefists42 wrote: Formosa wrote:ADB is hands down better than Abnett, after reading a ADB book I always think "How is this guy working for GW" he has brought a lot of credibility to the 40k universe, and abnett brings the same, just (on the whole) not as well written.
He made Angron a sympathetic and complex character. Angron. (I still can't believe ADB made the go-to berserker fodder faction into a group of well developed and tragic characters that are all the victims of both their own and the Emperor's folly)
I love me some XIIth legion (and yes, they likely are the most tragic story among the Legions), but Know No Fear was epic and somehow converted me into a fan of the UM. Which is saying something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/19 04:00:42
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Captain Roderick wrote:So, just going to wade in here - has anyone heard a reason why the Warmaster is so massively delayed? I've googled a bit but got nowhere. Pre-ordered it in 2013, and Amazon is now saying it'll be available in February... 2017.
2013 was around the time BL fell apart as GW turned it all into "limited edition hardcover less than 200 with bookmark!" merchandise nonsense. Its all slowed down everything.
And yeah, ADB is too good for GW. I'm torn as on one hand he needs to get out of GW's toxic influence but on the other I want him to take charge of the the HH saga and wrap it up in a quality way. Because of ADB, Angron and Lorgar are the two most well-developed characters in the series by far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/19 18:50:41
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Ruthless Interrogator
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The Gates of Azyr can't be selling too well. They have a bucket of the limited edition ones for sale in my local GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/19 18:56:29
Subject: Re: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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tinfoil wrote:
Wait, what?
What about =I=thatguy vs. =I=thatotherguy? This is depressing.
I want that sequel to Pariah!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/19 23:11:50
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wait is this new Imperial Fists Abnett book about The Beast?. He seems like the most intimidating Ork characters GW has ever written about but there's basically nothing about him.
I actually might read this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/20 05:56:25
Subject: Re: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Ruthless Interrogator
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You and everyone else. I've given up on that one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/20 06:47:11
Subject: Re: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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New date for Penitent appears to be November 2015, which will hopefully be the date for the regular expensive hardback release and not some glossy limited edition one.
On the bright side, the other reprints of the original Eisenhorn saga should be popping around August and September.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/20 07:18:34
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Fixture of Dakka
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Bequin, played by Claudia Black?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/20 07:50:17
Subject: Re: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/20 08:45:54
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Knockagh wrote:The Gates of Azyr can't be selling too well. They have a bucket of the limited edition ones for sale in my local GW.
I've read it. It's... OK. Not amazing though. Same with Mandrake Bastion, though it was nice to read about the mandrake beasties in general.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/20 09:42:48
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Gates of Azyr, it's okay.. More an introduction to things to come, along with that cheesy 80's Saturday Morning Breakfast Cartoon sequel hook of "I'll get next time!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/20 19:02:58
Subject: Re: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Are all the new AoS books besides Gates of Azyr ebooks? Are there any paperbacks in the setting yet?
Ell Oh freakin' Ell.
If this were written by anyone but the BL blurb committee, I would assume the phrasing was intentional and applaud their genius.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/21 02:39:56
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Was paying up front for Scars cheaper than when they combined them all later?
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/21 04:02:46
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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Fixture of Dakka
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Beneath the black thumb? Is that a metaphor for the writers working for BL?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/24 08:50:01
Subject: Re: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p35 AoS Mandrake Bastion and NL HH, p36 Cybernetica
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-at-bl
Cybernetica: interview with Rob Sanders23/07/15
Tomorrow, ‘Cybernetica’ arrives. To get an idea of what this new Horus Heresy book is about and why it’s an essential read, we had a chat with Rob Sanders, who wrote this tale of Mars. So without further ado…
BL: Hi Rob. Thanks for talking to us. So, what is Cybernetica about (or at least what can you tell us about it)?
RS: Cybernetica brings the Horus Heresy back to Mars. With great events happening in far-flung corners of the galaxy, it’s easy to forget that the Imperium has a powerful Traitor stronghold on its doorstep. The novella picks up the story of Space Marines trapped on the Red Planet during the events of ‘Mechanicum’ and goes on from there.
BL: How does it continue the story of the war in the Solar System?
RS: I’ve always found this aspect of the Heresy fascinating. The presence of a Traitor forge world within the Solar system is intolerable. Beyond the threat of attacks launched from the Red Planet in advance of Horus’ arrival, the planet is a manufacturing powerhouse that can supply Traitor forces with much-needed troops and materiel. It’s also the perfect staging point for the final assault on Terra. It cannot be allowed to remain in Traitor hands. Rogal Dorn doesn’t have the forces at his command to secure Terra take back Mars. ‘Cybernetica’ tells the story of the solution to this problem: the complete annihilation of life on Mars.
BL: What’s your favourite thing about the book?
RS: I have several. I love the idea of returning to Mars.It’s a problem that has to be dealt with by the Loyalists, and this feels like a close and immediate chapter in the saga, where the stakes have never been higher. Taking decisive action against Mars is essential for the survival of Terra and the Imperium.
My second favourite thing about the book is getting to explore the Dark Mechanicum further. They’re a fascinating group within the Heresy. While the series justifiably focuses largely on the exploits of Space Marine heroes and fallen angels, the Dark Mechanicum have a huge role to play in the wider conflict. Like Mars itself, they are essential to the Warmaster’s plans.
But my absolute favourite thing about the book is the main characters. With all Legions sending brothers to Mars to become Techmarines, it stood to reason that there would be Space Marines on Mars at the breakout of hostilities, from Legions both Traitor and Loyalist. As the threat of Mars cannot be ignored, these Techmarines in training are a problem that must be addressed by the Dark Mechanicum.
BL: Might we see any of the characters from Cybernetica appear again in the Horus Heresy?
RS: I just play my part in a much larger story, but I would be seriously surprised if we don’t!
BL: Finally, in ten words or fewer, why should we read Cybernetica?
RS: Keywords: Mars. Techmarines. Dark Mechanicus. Battle-Automata. Abominable Intelligence. Catastrophic.
Thanks, Rob. ‘Cybernetica’ goes on sale tomorrow – set your reminder now at the link below to be amongst the first to order your copy.
http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/cybernetica-le.html
have to wait ti try to get this, if it's on sale next week/payday then I'm in, bot too much to justify otherwise in these lean times, alas.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/24 11:37:47
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p37 HH Cybernetica -- on sale 24th July.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/24 12:33:40
Subject: Re: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p37 HH Cybernetica -- on sale 24th July.
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I used to worry when these limited editions came out that I wouldn't have the cash to buy them prior to my getting paid but I'm comfortable there'll still be plenty left in a couple of weeks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/24 13:06:55
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p37 HH Cybernetica -- on sale 24th July.
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I guess I'll wait for the small paper back.
Sad Kronk is Sad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/24 13:13:40
Subject: Black Library News and Rumours Thread: p37 HH Cybernetica -- on sale 24th July.
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Limited Editions over and over are getting me down.
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