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Manchu wrote:@ptolemaic : BT are a second founding Chapter so we won't see them in the HH series (or at least not until the very end, depending on the extent of the series). Lucky for you, A D-B has already published a BT novel called Helsreach.

You are quite correct Manchu, and I understand it's a second chapter but the reason why I stated BT is even though they are a second founding I think a writer at BL could have quite a fun time with the chapter or one portion of it. IMHO I think BT have more options than some of the first founding chapters....

skrulnik wrote:They touched on that battle in a couple of the Ragnar novels, didn't they?

The key sources I used for the book were Bjorn's entry in the Index Astartes and the old SW Codex, which go into a fair bit of detail about what happens. But it's been referenced in a fair few other places too, including the Ragnar books (from memory, only in passing).

BrookM wrote:I have high hopes for the Fang, seeing as the author has done some very entertaining Fantasy novels so far, including the Sword of Justice / Vengeance series.

Ta, BrookM. Vengeance has just come back from the printers, so I'm hoping there'll be an extract up on the BL site soon.

Dead Blue Clown wrote: If I change my mind, I'll be sure to accuse him with infinite bile over a few beers at the next signing we do together.

You have no idea how scared of this I am. Every time I feel the urge to slack off, even for a minute, I get the fear of Aaron's Infinite Bile - it's like one of your Special Rules.

ptolemaic wrote:

Dead Blue Clown wrote:

Manchu wrote:@Dead Blue Clown: I'm really enjoying The First Heretic, especially your protrayal of the primarchs. Do you have any plans for another contribution to the HH series? how would you feel about writing Ultramarines? Or is that territory staked out?

Thanks, dude, Muchos gracias.

I'd sell my left arm to get a crack at one of the really major Legions, but they're reserved by the guys that got there first. The Dark Angels are done and their tale is pretty set in stone in their last 2 books; Jim will almost certainly be doing the Blood Angels; Dan's got the Space Wolves covered; and if Graham doesn't end up doing the Ultramarines, I'll eat my shoes.

And really, it's hard to complain - there's still plenty of great stuff left. My next HH novel (and unless I explode, there'll almost definitely be one, as I'm the permanent 4th guy on the team now, I reckon) will most likely be about one of the less popular Legions that need some airtime (like the Word Bearers in TFH).

I am awaiting Xmas for my copy of the First Heretic and Soul Hunter so cannot comment yet ADB, (and having a Word Bearer army I can't wait...)

For one of the main Chapters what about Black Templars? So much scope from crusading Space Knights, with making do with what heavy support they have and making ends meet with innovative solutions to mobility and firepower issues, and probably mustering PDF's (and the odd fanatical unit) against the curse of Chaos and the alien....? (that is how I am building my BT army.... some on horseback, some on bikes, others on foot with local PDF in support...)

I would welcome more stories on the Word Bearers as they are the first to rebel. They are also one of the best to go wild with the story line, as they pray to all Chaos Gods not just a single diety.

You gonna love First Heretic! As I said to my former Manager 'it's so good, it makes A Thousand Sons look like Battle For The Abyss'

ptolemaic wrote:

Manchu wrote:@ptolemaic : BT are a second founding Chapter so we won't see them in the HH series (or at least not until the very end, depending on the extent of the series). Lucky for you, A D-B has already published a BT novel called Helsreach.

You are quite correct Manchu, and I understand it's a second chapter but the reason why I stated BT is even though they are a second founding I think a writer at BL could have quite a fun time with the chapter or one portion of it. IMHO I think BT have more options than some of the first founding chapters....

Sigismund, the founding Chapter Master and Dorns buddy is mentioned in one of the Heresy books though I can't remember which one at the moment

I love the fact that several authors are now roaming the boards and actively participating in the discussion here. Thanks guys, you rock!!

Since I havent received the First Heretic yet, I actually have Sword of justice AND Iron Company on the top of my to-read stack. Just gotta finish the Brunner omnibus first. Which btw, is worth every cent! Big thanks to Red recommending it!

ChrisWraight wrote:

skrulnik wrote:They touched on that battle in a couple of the Ragnar novels, didn't they?

The key sources I used for the book were Bjorn's entry in the Index Astartes and the old SW Codex, which go into a fair bit of detail about what happens. But it's been referenced in a fair few other places too, including the Ragnar books (from memory, only in passing).

Very nice indeed. Good to see the old stuff assisting in making the new, and more depth to what should be a very cool story.

And I know its kind of dumb to ask so early in, but approximately how long are you looking for it to be? Rynn's world length, or Hunt for Volodorius?

lords2001 wrote:And I know its kind of dumb to ask so early in, but approximately how long are you looking for it to be? Rynn's world length, or Hunt for Volodorius?

That's hard to answer, since I'm not sure what the word-counts of those books were, but going by the very hefty first draft that's with BL it's going to be at the longer end of the SM Battle books range.

Good, it makes sense to take advantage of the format.

... now if they follow the "helpful suggestions" you received on your blog with regards to the plates in the centre all will be well.

If I change my mind, I'll be sure to accuse him with infinite bile over a few beers at the next signing we do together.

For a horrible moment I read that as "singing", and I'm not sure humanity is ready for that yet.

Captain Jack wrote:Sigismund, the founding Chapter Master and Dorns buddy is mentioned in one of the Heresy books though I can't remember which one at the moment

Mechanicum by McNeill. It's the briefest of cameos.

Manchu's encyclopedia of minutia - FTW!

At this point, with THREE Dark Angel HH books, how is it that a sequel to LEGION has NOT been announced?

Has the next 'main' HH book after "Prospero Burns" been revealed yet?

And by 'main' I mean other than the anthology!

*Two Dark Angels Heresy-era books.

"Descent of Angels" and "Fallen Angels".

There's a Dark Angels book coming out soon, but it's post-Heresy by quite a bit.

ChrisWraight wrote:

lords2001 wrote:And I know its kind of dumb to ask so early in, but approximately how long are you looking for it to be? Rynn's world length, or Hunt for Volodorius?

That's hard to answer, since I'm not sure what the word-counts of those books were, but going by the very hefty first draft that's with BL it's going to be at the longer end of the SM Battle books range.

I like! Good story, great writer, winner for sure.

Book Depository just got a preorder! Only like 7million days to go!

Oh, and Alpharius -

apart from the short story collection Age of Darkness http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/coming-soon/Age-of-Darkness.html - though there is the Rob Sanders book Atlas Infernal - not quite HH, but still very awesome.

Add that to Blood Reaver, Thunder and Steel and the eventual chaos space marine anthology (all the way in 2012, but hey) and there is some nice stuff to get in.

Though after writing all that, it is extremely strange that we get Nemesis, The First Heretic and Prospero burns in short order, then a 'semi filler' anthology (though I may choke on my words with that) in Age of Darkness a few months on.... then nothing until at least october 2011. Wierd. Slow burn is one thing, but this looks just rather... bare. Like the authors were spending all their time on the forums and had no time to write......... Much jesting, but it is wierd.

I hear that RG and BA fans might be happy...

Those three have been in the works for almost a year or two.

ADB was, from what I remember, decently into "The First Heretic" when "Soul Hunter" released.

Sigismund is also in "the lightning tower and dark king" audio books. They are also brief appearances.

Still going through the First Heretic but I really like the mentions being made about those two legions that everybody is sworn to STFU about.

Kanluwen wrote:*Two Dark Angels Heresy-era books.

"Descent of Angels" and "Fallen Angels".

There's a Dark Angels book coming out soon, but it's post-Heresy by quite a bit.

I know there have only been TWO DA HH books to date, but given how #2 ended, we're clearly getting a third one...

lords2001 wrote:
Though after writing all that, it is extremely strange that we get Nemesis, The First Heretic and Prospero burns in short order, then a 'semi filler' anthology (though I may choke on my words with that) in Age of Darkness a few months on.... then nothing until at least october 2011. Wierd. Slow burn is one thing, but this looks just rather... bare. Like the authors were spending all their time on the forums and had no time to write......... Much jesting, but it is wierd.

That's kind of what got me thinking that we're getting something else in there, hopefully.

And NO, audio dramas ( ) do NOT count!

Alpharius wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:*Two Dark Angels Heresy-era books.

"Descent of Angels" and "Fallen Angels".

There's a Dark Angels book coming out soon, but it's post-Heresy by quite a bit.

I know there have only been TWO DA HH books to date, but given how #2 ended, we're clearly getting a third one...

Speculation. If we were going to have a third one, it'd be coming out with the summer batch given the timeframe.
However, it ended exactly how in the way most of the HH books have.

With an open ending so it links in with the rest of the series.

Alpharius wrote:

lords2001 wrote:
Though after writing all that, it is extremely strange that we get Nemesis, The First Heretic and Prospero burns in short order, then a 'semi filler' anthology (though I may choke on my words with that) in Age of Darkness a few months on.... then nothing until at least october 2011. Weird. Slow burn is one thing, but this looks just rather... bare. Like the authors were spending all their time on the forums and had no time to write......... Much jesting, but it is weird.

That's kind of what got me thinking that we're getting something else in there, hopefully.

And NO, audio dramas ( ) do NOT count!

They tend to only release a few Heresy books a year. Alot of those authors also do a "regular" 40k line-up or Fantasy books too.

Personally? I'd rather they keep up that pacing, with maybe 3 Heresy books a year coming out. Any faster and you end up with more stinkers than thinkers.

Kanluwen wrote:
They tend to only release a few Heresy books a year. Alot of those authors also do a "regular" 40k line-up or Fantasy books too.

Personally? I'd rather they keep up that pacing, with maybe 3 Heresy books a year coming out. Any faster and you end up with more stinkers than thinkers.

+1
I think the current pace is good. BL is releasing so many books, its hard enough to keep up already.

Truth. I have about 8 sitting on the shelf.

The only series I am close to up on is the HH. Just starting Nemesis

The quality, aside from a few clunkers, is on par with the rest of BL's offerings.

We should not be punished due to a few slow readers out there!

Alpharius wrote:The quality, aside from a few clunkers, is on par with the rest of BL's offerings.

We should not be punished due to a few slow readers out there!

Oh no you didnt!!!
Truth be told, Im a pretty fast reader. I am however running out of space. Collecting Star Wars AND BL books is really straining the space in my appartment.

BrookM wrote:Still going through the First Heretic but I really like the mentions being made about those two legions that everybody is sworn to STFU about.

Funny how no-one else has mentioned that. Two primarchs no-one is allowed to talk about. I wonder if this will ever be flesh out.

It really should be.

With all the "wink-wink nudge-nudge" coy hints, they've already revealed enough to shatter the old "Oh, we leave them vague so you can use them for your DIY Marines" line of thought.

Nah.

It's better left as just "tragic, lost heroes forever forgotten".

I would be okay with them flatout saying they're male, just so the FSM camp can't use that as a copout anymore though...

Any thought from you guys on Aenarion (high elf audio book)?

I liked Aenarion but thought it portrayed him as a bit of a jerk.

On a separate point does anyone know when the SW HH book is finally going to be released I heard Abbnet was ill so it was delayed but I ordered it on Amazon over a year ago and the date constantly changes?

It's set for January, but there is scurrilous talk that it might hit the GW stores prior to Xmas.

It was indeed supposed to come out alongside A Thousand Sons, but Mr. Abnett got delayed somewhat by his diagnosis of epilepsy.

January is going to be a great month. Prospero Burns and God King? Bliss.

Thanks that clears that up.