'Nids in February? No, January!!!

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**NAVARRO**

NEW BUGS!

I dont care if he looks like... mehhhhhhh. I just want the stats the fluff and my GS... I feel the smell of chitin in the horizon and its going to be goooood

**wyomingfox**

Speaking from the last codex, if GW won't make good rules to go with the models, then IMO they shouldn't bother with the models.

**Arschbombe**

wyomingfox wrote:if GW didn't make good rules to go with the models, then IMO they shouldn't have bothered with the models.

There. Fixed that for ya. It's all done. What remains is the big reveal to see what they did.

**MilkmanAl**

For what it's worth, Brimstone doesn't think this thingy is a Malanthrope. Somehow, that makes me even more excited. I like that model a lot even though I can see it falling over constantly and being prone to breaking.

**Fateweaver**

I don't know why peeps are so hell bent on that being a Malanthrope.

GW did say 4 "new species" not seen in codeciies before. Why can't it mean just that? 4 "NEW" species.

I'm willing to bet money it's not a malanthrope. Just because it resembles one doesn't mean it is. Raveners resemble Warriors from the waist up but they are obviously 2 seperate species of 'Nid.

Geez. Give GW SOME credit in thinking up new ideas. I mean Raveners are new from 3rd edition(?) on, they aren't an original idea dating back to RT.

**lord_blackfang**

Of course it's not a Malanthorpe, it's on a 40mm base.

**Fateweaver**

I predicted new never before seen species for nids and got laughed at and told GW are just going to make plastics/metals for FW stuff.

I'm going to enjoy laughing at the ones who told me how wrong I was when January rolls around and they find out how wrong they were.

**avantgarde**

Fateweaver wrote:I don't know why peeps are so hell bent on that being a Malanthrope.

GW did say 4 "new species" not seen in codeciies before. Why can't it mean just that? 4 "NEW" species.

I'm willing to bet money it's not a malanthrope. Just because it resembles one doesn't mean it is. Raveners resemble Warriors from the waist up but they are obviously 2 seperate species of 'Nid.

Geez. Give GW SOME credit in thinking up new ideas. I mean Raveners are new from 3rd edition(?) on, they aren't an original idea dating back to RT.

Of the many new units introduced by the new IG codex name all the units that are completely original that are not a vehicle variant or a SC.

After that do the same with SM.

**Neith**

Fateweaver wrote:I don't know why peeps are so hell bent on that being a Malanthrope.

GW did say 4 "new species" not seen in codeciies before. Why can't it mean just that? 4 "NEW" species.

I'm willing to bet money it's not a malanthrope. Just because it resembles one doesn't mean it is. Raveners resemble Warriors from the waist up but they are obviously 2 seperate species of 'Nid.

Geez. Give GW SOME credit in thinking up new ideas. I mean Raveners are new from 3rd edition(?) on, they aren't an original idea dating back to RT.

That new model has feeder tendrils, a serpentine body, and what looks like a rounded part near its shoulder joints. Those are all traits of the Malanthrope (the rounded part being the sac that stores its victims). The only thing that makes me think it isn't a Malanthrope is the base size. Unless Malanthropes got scaled down significantly, it isn't one. Maybe a sub-species of it?

**RustyKnight**

After the mystery box, is it really that surprising that people doubt GW releasing NEW NEVER BEFORE SEEN items that noone HAS EVER TALKED ABOUT?

**Stealershock**

Go rumors of a plastic trygon usable in 40k!!!

**lord_blackfang**

From The Dude on Warseer:

Allessio has supposedly let slip the following titbits:

"I cannot speak about the Trygon, but a hypothetical model would have the same detail and more versatility than the Skaven doombell"

"I would expect something similar to a Tyranid basilisk, a new species with a brand new metal model is likely"

"If people want a new Hive Tyrant model will have to buy the Forgeworld one"

"The new book will let players field even more Carnifexes than before"

Here, in Italian:

http://www.forumgwtilea.it/forum/ind...pic=95497&st=0

From another ninja, there are two new plastic sets listed: Raveners, full plastic set, 35 euros, and Gargoyles, 22.75 euros.

Hormagaunts and Termagants will be sold separately, both boxes 19.50 euro. The current Gaunt-box is still listed, price unchanged.

There are also two new names:

Toxatroph, in a Blister, 17.50 Euro

Pyrovore, Metal Box set, 26 Euro.

Also, besides the already available Tyrant Guard there is also a blister named Schwarmwache in German, which translates to Hive Guard, Blister, 17.50.

The New Battleforce has its price raised by 5 Euro, which is the same as the new Imperial Guard Battleforce.

**aka_mythos**

He also added:

The Dude wrote:I suspect our new creature to be either the Toxatroph, or the Hive Guard

If there is some sort of Malanthrope like HQ choice that guy would make for a lighter Tyrant Guard equivalent for it.

**JohnHwangDD**

The Dude wrote: Allessio has supposedly let slip the following titbits:

"I cannot speak about the Trygon, but a hypothetical model would have the same detail and more versatility than the Skaven doombell"

Heh, Alessio's funny.

Still, Nids are getting a nice, big new model.

**Shep**

Here are all known product codes, costs, and 'confirmed' models.

99120106016 plastic box $44.50 - trygon (I expect that price will do a last minute pop up to $58 just like the valkyrie did)

99120106017 plastic box $100.00 - battle force

99120106018 plastic box $29.00 - raveners

99120106019 plastic box $22.00 - gargoyles

99120106020 plastic box $22.00 - 1/2 gaunts

99120106021 plastic box $22.00 - 1/2 gaunts

99060106061 metal blister $20.00 - toxathrope

99060106062 metal blister $20.00 - hive guard

99110106063 metal box $33.00 - pyrovore

99110106064 metal blister $16.50 - ???

Just missing one model name for the new release. My guess is that the 16.50 blister is just a blister pack with 6 spore mines in it. That's what they go for online. The 4 new species are accounted for, and the three new plastic kits are confirmed. If we can get a semi-confirm on this cheap little blister, then we can start planning our purchases.

And before you start speculating on what it is. keep in mind that there isn't a single metal model in the tyranid range that falls below the $20.00 price point. It is NOT a new broodlord, zoanthrope or biovore.

**Railguns**

That thing looks like armored spaghetti.

**Arschbombe**

Maybe it's the fabled flying spaghetti monster.

**Tacobake**

Pyrovore? Sounds like Privateer Press.

Honestly, nids are always great for 40k especially with Space Hulk out if they are doing Blood Angels soon too. A new Heavy sounds great, and the old-new book could use a quick edit, although it was a great book anyway. Carnis in Fast or Troop? Probably Fast.

**Fateweaver**

Haha, "NEW" species. Pyrovore and Toxanthrope. I DARE someone to show me where those even exist in fluff, ever. I'll even let you go back to RT days.

I love being right. Now I know how Gwar feels over in the YMDC forum.

Ah crap, I'm gonna get banned now as I'm siding with Gwar. gak.

**Railguns**

Well, if anyone in the bassackwards techno-regressive universe of 40k would get entirely new units, it would be the Tyranids.(or Tau, but they aren't relevant to the conversation).

**JohnHwangDD**

They're listed next to the LR Punisher and LR Executioner, along with the Psyker Battle Squad, and every other unit Robin Crudace pulled out of his ass.

**Railguns**

The executioner actually WAS a forgeworld model for a while, so Cruddance didn't make that one up. He just lifted it from forgeworld.

**HolyCause**

Any word on what might be in the Battleforce box?

**Fateweaver**

Who cares who's ass a unit was pulled out of. A new species is a new species and we have proof of 2 of the 4 and I was shot down when I predicted units never before even spoken of.

**Grunt_For_Christ**

Shep wrote:Here are all known product codes, costs, and 'confirmed' models.

99120106016 plastic box $44.50 - trygon (I expect that price will do a last minute pop up to $58 just like the valkyrie did)

99120106017 plastic box $100.00 - battle force

99120106018 plastic box $29.00 - raveners

99120106019 plastic box $22.00 - gargoyles

99120106020 plastic box $22.00 - 1/2 gaunts

99120106021 plastic box $22.00 - 1/2 gaunts

99060106061 metal blister $20.00 - toxathrope

99060106062 metal blister $20.00 - hive guard

99110106063 metal box $33.00 - pyrovore

99110106064 metal blister $16.50 - ???

Just missing one model name for the new release. My guess is that the 16.50 blister is just a blister pack with 6 spore mines in it. That's what they go for online. The 4 new species are accounted for, and the three new plastic kits are confirmed. If we can get a semi-confirm on this cheap little blister, then we can start planning our purchases.

And before you start speculating on what it is. keep in mind that there isn't a single metal model in the tyranid range that falls below the $20.00 price point. It is NOT a new broodlord, zoanthrope or biovore.

So check me on these few points:

1. Pyrovore: flamer/heavy flamer template ravener-like creature that's an elite or fast attack?

2. Raveners are finally going to be somewhere around 30 pts. for a loaded one instead of 30 pts. base?

3. 8 or 12 gargoyles in the box... What do you think?

4. Possibly termagaunts and hormagaunts get different boxes and only have 8 or 10 each?

5. Toxathrope (please tell me that isn't the actual name): Toxic miasma/bio plasma/new template weapon guy?

6. The new 'Trygon' is basically a bigger ravener that fits into the heavy slot?

I was looking at the tyranid family tree and noticed a few things: There's a spot off of tyranid warriors that says there is 212 variations of them, so I'm guessing that'll be the catch all term for the new specialized guys, right? There's also a 'classified' species that's a parent to the zoanthrope, so that seems to take care of one of the new species. Also there's an 'undefined' species underneath termagaunts... Any idea of what that could be?

**kaiservonhugal**

Ill take it whatever it is - cant wait to get new bug figs!!!

**Railguns**

The creature is called a Toxitrophe, apparently. That means something like "poison-eater" if you take the common inferences from the biologic terminology, like a heterotrophe uses organic carbon sources, and is usually associated with predation.
PS-which sounds silly to me, but your average layman wouldn't have a clue.

**Arschbombe**

Grunt_For_Christ wrote:

5. Toxathrope (please tell me that isn't the actual name): Toxic miasma/bio plasma/new template weapon guy?

I think that's the thing in the picture and it has poison tentacles that wound anything on a 2+.

**Railguns**

It does have a weedy, short little tail. Other than psychic force I can't see any feasible mode of locomotion for this thing unless they expect to tell us that it gets around on that wholly-unsuited-for-mobility-tail.

**FoxPhoenix135**

So forgive me for jumping in without reading the 37 pages that precede the last 2, but it looks like it is rumored that you will be able to field more carnifexes than ever before? Does that simply mean their cost is dropping, or possibly something along the lines of other codexes where taking a special character gives you the option to convert them to other force organization types?

I love my carnifexes, but having kids and all I don't see how I am going to afford any more.