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Following in that vein

Terminatrix

300 points

Type: Infantry (unique)

WS6 BS6 S6 T6 W4 I6 A4 Ld10 Sv2+

Wargear:

Living metal: This provides a 2+ armour save. Any wound is ignored on a 3+, taken as a FNP save (i.e. in addition to other saves)

Weapon morph: Can select any of the following weaponry per turn, can shoot 2 different weapons per turn: lascannon, multi-melta, assault cannon, missile launcher, plasma cannon, flame storm cannon. Counts as equipped with assault grenades. In combat counts as having both a power weapon and a power fist.

Special Rules: Fearless, Relentless

Beguile: The Terminatrix can beguile enemies by enlarging her feminine characteristics. 1 male enemy model in base contact must past a Ld test on 3D6. If failed, he is hit automatically and cannot strike during that round of combat.

The unforgiven techmarine. 180 pts
He is a techmarine from one of the traitor Titan Legions, but he stayed faithfull to the emperor. ashamed of his legion's betrayel he has set out to right the wrong and bring the Traitor Titans to the ground.
He now leads a small squad of Deathwing terminators, dedicated to taking down these Titans of the traitor legions.

He is armed with a special servo harness, which counts as a S10 chainfist and a meltagun. He wears artificer armor which grants him a 2+ armor and a 5+ invul
The five terminators that accompany him all must be equipped with chainfists as well. Under his guide, they have learned the weakpoints of which to strike, Everyone in his squad can re-roll misses against any armored vehicle (tanks, titans, ... etc)

In order to get in close to these Traitor Titans, the Unforgiven Techmarine and his terminator retinue typically embark on a Caestus Assault Ram, perfect for clearing out a landing space and assaulting a Titan.

Mathias Kingsington, Radical Inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos

WS 4
BS 4
S 3
T 3
W 3
I 5
A 4
Ld 10
Sv 3+

UNIT TYPE: Infantry (Character)
UNIT COMPOSITION: 1 (Unique)
SPECIAL RULES: Infiltrate, Stubborn, Iron Will, Invunerable (4+)

Iron Will: When reduced to 0 wounds roll a D6. On a 1-3 remove as a casualty as normal. On a 4-5 he returns with 1 wound remaining. On a 6 he returns with full wounds and the Rage USR

WARGEAR: Power Armour, Rad Grenades, Psykotroke Grenades, Hybrid Pistol, The Proto-Sword

Hybrid Pistol: This is a combi weapon.
Main Profile: Range 12" Str 4 AP 3 Type Pistol
Secondary: Range 24" Str 1 AP 2 Type Poisoned (2+) Rapid Fire

The Proto-Sword: (Using 6th Ed Combat Weapon Profile)
Range Melee Str User AP 2 Type Charged Strike
Charged Strike* Instead of using the normal profile above, you may declare to use a charged strike. If so you wound on a 2+, are AP 1 but strike at I 1

Matt.Kingsley wrote:Mathias Kingsington, Inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos

WS 4
BS 4
S 4
T 4
W 3
I 5
A 4
Ld 10
Sv 3+

UNIT TYPE: Infantry (Character)
UNIT COMPOSITION: 1 (Unique)
SPECIAL RULES: Infiltrate, Stubborn, Iron Will

Iron Will: When reduced to 0 wounds roll a D3. On a 1 remove as a casualty as normal. On a he returns with 1 wound remaining. On a 3 he returns with full wounds and the Rage USR

WARGEAR: Power Armour, Rad Grenades, Psykotroke Grenades, Hybrid Pistol, The Proto-Sword

Hybrid Pistol: This is a combi weapon.
Main Profile: Range 12" Str 4 AP 3 Type Pistol
Secondary: Range 24" Str 1 AP 2 Type Poisoned (2+) Rapid Fire

The Proto-Sword: (Using 6th Ed Combat Weapon Profile)
Range Melee Str User AP 2 Type Charged Strike
Charged Strike* Instead of using the normal profile above, you may declare to use a charged strike. If so you wound on a 2+, are AP 1 but strike at I 1

Why S4 and T4? Inquisitors are normal humans and should have S3 and T3 (with the exception of Hector Rex because he's HUGE but even he still has T3). Also, I'd tone down Iron will, having a 1/3 chance of getting back up with full wounds and Rage? A little much.

Moronic Nonsense wrote:The unforgiven techmarine. 180 pts
He is a techmarine from one of the traitor Titan Legions, but he stayed faithfull to the emperor. ashamed of his legion's betrayel he has set out to right the wrong and bring the Traitor Titans to the ground.
He now leads a small squad of Deathwing terminators, dedicated to taking down these Titans of the traitor legions.

He is armed with a special servo harness, which counts as a S10 chainfist and a meltagun. He wears artificer armor which grants him a 2+ armor and a 5+ invul
The five terminators that accompany him all must be equipped with chainfists as well. Under his guide, they have learned the weakpoints of which to strike, Everyone in his squad can re-roll misses against any armored vehicle (tanks, titans, ... etc)

In order to get in close to these Traitor Titans, the Unforgiven Techmarine and his terminator retinue typically embark on a Caestus Assault Ram, perfect for clearing out a landing space and assaulting a Titan.

Why does he run around with the Deathwing? A full squad of the most important of the entire Dark Angels chapter get chained along with a Techmarine who isn't even a Dark Angel?

felixander wrote:

Moronic Nonsense wrote:The unforgiven techmarine. 180 pts
He is a techmarine from one of the traitor Titan Legions, but he stayed faithfull to the emperor. ashamed of his legion's betrayel he has set out to right the wrong and bring the Traitor Titans to the ground.
He now leads a small squad of Deathwing terminators, dedicated to taking down these Titans of the traitor legions.

He is armed with a special servo harness, which counts as a S10 chainfist and a meltagun. He wears artificer armor which grants him a 2+ armor and a 5+ invul
The five terminators that accompany him all must be equipped with chainfists as well. Under his guide, they have learned the weakpoints of which to strike, Everyone in his squad can re-roll misses against any armored vehicle (tanks, titans, ... etc)

In order to get in close to these Traitor Titans, the Unforgiven Techmarine and his terminator retinue typically embark on a Caestus Assault Ram, perfect for clearing out a landing space and assaulting a Titan.

Why does he run around with the Deathwing? A full squad of the most important of the entire Dark Angels chapter get chained along with a Techmarine who isn't even a Dark Angel?

and titan legions don't have tech marines they have tech priests
fail lol

felixander wrote:

Moronic Nonsense wrote:The unforgiven techmarine. 180 pts
He is a techmarine from one of the traitor Titan Legions, but he stayed faithfull to the emperor. ashamed of his legion's betrayel he has set out to right the wrong and bring the Traitor Titans to the ground.
He now leads a small squad of Deathwing terminators, dedicated to taking down these Titans of the traitor legions.

He is armed with a special servo harness, which counts as a S10 chainfist and a meltagun. He wears artificer armor which grants him a 2+ armor and a 5+ invul
The five terminators that accompany him all must be equipped with chainfists as well. Under his guide, they have learned the weakpoints of which to strike, Everyone in his squad can re-roll misses against any armored vehicle (tanks, titans, ... etc)

In order to get in close to these Traitor Titans, the Unforgiven Techmarine and his terminator retinue typically embark on a Caestus Assault Ram, perfect for clearing out a landing space and assaulting a Titan.

Why does he run around with the Deathwing? A full squad of the most important of the entire Dark Angels chapter get chained along with a Techmarine who isn't even a Dark Angel?

The run togetehr because they both have similar agendas, hunt the fallen.
In the story running in my head, Cypher has gotten a large band of fallen marines together, and has even gotten some of the traitor titans to help him out. The Deathwing has come in to capture Cypher, and the Unforgiven techmarine agreed to help, because while he helps the deathwing in their objective, they are helping him in his.

Ok, so I'm not great at my titan fluff, so I should just change him to a techpriest with a weapon similar to a chainfist?
He can run with any variety of space marines, but for him to work in game, he needs to be with chainfist terminators in a Caestus Ram.

Moronic Nonsense wrote:

felixander wrote:

Moronic Nonsense wrote:The unforgiven techmarine. 180 pts
He is a techmarine from one of the traitor Titan Legions, but he stayed faithfull to the emperor. ashamed of his legion's betrayel he has set out to right the wrong and bring the Traitor Titans to the ground.
He now leads a small squad of Deathwing terminators, dedicated to taking down these Titans of the traitor legions.

He is armed with a special servo harness, which counts as a S10 chainfist and a meltagun. He wears artificer armor which grants him a 2+ armor and a 5+ invul
The five terminators that accompany him all must be equipped with chainfists as well. Under his guide, they have learned the weakpoints of which to strike, Everyone in his squad can re-roll misses against any armored vehicle (tanks, titans, ... etc)

In order to get in close to these Traitor Titans, the Unforgiven Techmarine and his terminator retinue typically embark on a Caestus Assault Ram, perfect for clearing out a landing space and assaulting a Titan.

Why does he run around with the Deathwing? A full squad of the most important of the entire Dark Angels chapter get chained along with a Techmarine who isn't even a Dark Angel?

The run togetehr because they both have similar agendas, hunt the fallen.
In the story running in my head, Cypher has gotten a large band of fallen marines together, and has even gotten some of the traitor titans to help him out. The Deathwing has come in to capture Cypher, and the Unforgiven techmarine agreed to help, because while he helps the deathwing in their objective, they are helping him in his.

Ok, so I'm not great at my titan fluff, so I should just change him to a techpriest with a weapon similar to a chainfist?
He can run with any variety of space marines, but for him to work in game, he needs to be with chainfist terminators in a Caestus Ram.

I just read your user name and thought that summed this up pretty well! I'm just kidding, it was too tempting!

I would simply say that he has made agreements with Marine chapters to work with him in exchange for his ancient knowledge and work with something specific (Machine spirits, different pattern Landraiders/Predators/etc,pick something!). Also giving him a name makes him more relatable. Even if it's just Jimmy Bob John the Neighborhood Techmarine just give him something! Or give him a more memorable title as The Unforgiven Techmarine just seems a bit too generic. Maybe something like Calivanico the Repentant (a la John Calvin with extra Latin gibberish to make it "Space Marine-y"). I'm not a writer either and am not 100% on Space Marine fluff (as I don't play them or read their books much) but I think that is a good basis and unless you want to make him really fluffy and story based that is good enough! Also making him a "floater" lets you use him with your Dark Angels with less questions (possibly).

So what are his stats/rules/wargear? You should write up a normal character profile to share! Hope this helped!

Hibou Khan, Master of the 5th Brotherhood

This is the Khan who cut half of Horus Aximand's face off in 'Little Horus', from the 'Age of Darkness' anthology. Rules are written for 6th ed.

Type: Jetbike (unique)

245 points

WS6 BS5 S4 T4(5) W3 I5 A3 Ld10 Sv2+

Wargear: artificer armour, frag and krak grenades, bolt pistol, combi-plasma, iron halo

Imperial Jetbike: This is a Jetbike. It incorporates a hurricane bolter and a teleport homer.

Medusan Steel: This blade of augmented steel belonged to Bion Henricos of the Iron Tenth. Hibou Khan retrieved it after Henrico's demise at the hands of Horus Aximand. It is a power weapon that grants +1 Strength and AP2.

Special Rules: Independent Character, Skilled Rider, ATSKNF, Combat Tactics

Legion Tactics: All units with Combat Tactics replace them with the Hit and Run special rule.

Superior Swordsman: Hibou Khan has the Hatred (new preferred enemy) special rule

Bike Captain: Bike squads of 5 man or more can be selected as troops. Bikes can be upgraded to Jetbikes for 5 points per model

Out of the hundreds of characters you've put on here I think this guy is the most reasonable and well balanced.

So:

Captain +100 points
Iron Halo dropped -20 points
Artificer armor +15 points
CombiPlasma +10 points
Jetbike w/Hurricane Bolter +55 points (35 for SM Bike, 10 for hurricane bolter replacing TL bolters, 10 points to become Jetbike)
Medusan Steel +30 points
Armywide Hit and Run tactics +20 points
Teleport Homer +15 points
Hatred (don't have BOB yet so I can't judge)
+10% special Character tax 20 points

= 225 points

Don't know if you mathed it out like that or not but either way it seems good! Depends on how awesome hatred is but for now let's assume it covers those last 10 points =P Along with Kor'Sarro it'd be a nice matchup!

Also add on the generic Space Marine Captain ability that makes it so that if he's on a bike all SM Bike squads of 5 or more may be taken as troops. Even if you don't want a bike army it'd be good to add on to keep him in line with other Bike Captains

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Brother Columbus, the fallen Blood Angel.
He is basically a Blood Angel Commander who turned to Chaos. Returning from a bloody campaign, he and his men got lost in the Eye of Terror. Convinced he was on the right course towards Baal, Columbus lead them in the opposite direction and deeper into the clutches of Chaos. As a result of this extensive "Warp lag", Columbus and his men suffer from severe dementia and paranoia.

Basic Profile: Chaos Lord w. Power Weapon.

Special rules:

Disillusioned: Before each turn, roll D6. On a 3+ carry on as normal. On a 1 or 2, roll a scatterdice. Columbus points his power axe in whichever direction the scatterdice points and orders his squad to open fire in that direction. If a unit, friend or foe, is within 45 degrees LOS in said direction, the squad opens fire on that unit. If no unit is visible, his squad shoots into thin air and their shooting phase is wasted. Columbus' men are as disillusioned as he and will follow his deranged orders blindly.

Go with a bang!: Strapped onto Columbus' person are lots and lots of frag grenades. It is even hard to see his power armour under all the bandoliers. Thusly, if Columbus is struck down, one grenade is likely to detonate and set off a chain reaction. The resulting explosion covers a Blast template area around him, and any model within that template suffer two (yes, two!) S4 AP6 hits. This rule applies in both ranged and close combat.

Utterly useless in a competitive game, but I love him.

Not a character, but a weapon

The Anathame

If anyone don't know, this is the Kinebrach blade stolen from the Interex by Erebus and used by Temba to mortally wound Horus, as described in the events in 'False Gods' It is currently in possession of the Daemon Primarch Fulgrim. Erebus made inferior copies of the Anathame, one of which, called the 'Shard of Erebus', was used in M41 by Marneus Calgar to permanently destroy the daemonic Word Bearer Apostle M'kar the Reborn

may be selected by a Chaos lord, Chaos sorcerer or Daemon prince

Type: Close Combat Weapon

Points cost: 500 points. No other war gear may be selected.

Special Rules: Two handed, Fleshbane (always wounds on a 2+)

Sentient: This blade is alive in the darkest sense of the word. It grants the bearer WS10 and I10, and doubles his base attacks.

Whisper in the wind: At the start of the game, choose one enemy independent character or monstrous creature HQ. The bearer always hits on a 2+ in combat against the target, and may re-roll all failed to hit and wound rolls against the target in close combat. Furthermore, the bearer can force the target to accept a challenge in close combat.

Daemonic essence: The Anathame is a monstrous creation, bred to kill the unkillable. The Anathame ignores armour saves and inflicts Instant Death. Successful invulnerable saves taken against the Anathame must be re-rolled. Any model that is immune to Instant Death must pass a Strength test at -1 for every unsaved wound suffered from the Anathame. If any test is failed, the model is removed from play immediately, exactly as though it were not immune to instant death.

This is the Chapter Master of the Dread Lords which I have been slowly starting to flesh together as a fun self created chapter project.

Hadran Shrawn the Lord of Shadows, Chapter Master of the Dread Lords

WS - 5
BS - 4
S - 5
T - 4
W - 3
I - 5
A - 4
Ld - 10
Sv - 2+ (4+ Inv)

Unit Type: Infantry

Wargear: Artificer Armor, Power fist, Plasma Pistol, Krak and Frag grenades, Roserius of Enoch, Helm of Enoch and The Wrath of Purity

Special Rules: Eternal warrior, Fearless, Counter Attack

The Roserius of Enoch: The founder of the Dread Lords was a fiery Chaplin from the ranks of the Imperial Fists named Enoch Sychek who used the holy relic in many battles during and after the dividing of the legions as per dictum by the Codex Astartes. This very old Roserius is passed down from Chapter master to successor as a badge of office dictating his place at the head of the chapter and his link to the revered founder. As well as having the honor of wearing such a prestigious symbol the chapter master receives a 4+ Invulnerable save in combat much like the iron halo of other chapters.

The Helm of Enoch: Another of the revered relics left for the use of the chapters master from the founder Enoch is a Helmet depicting the grinning rictus face of a human skull that is typical of a chaplains helmet . Enochs helmet however inspires any Dread Lord within its presence to steel themselves and not give in to weakness no matter how grim or dire a situation may be. Any Dread Lord within 12" of the Helm of Enoch becomes fearless while under their founders gaze.

The Wrath of Purity: This is the most potent of all of the artifacts of Enoch being his very own crozier that was gifted to him by the Rogal Dorn as a symbol of unity during the dividing of the legions. This powerful weapon hums into life upon activation and its lethal energy field crackles with destructive potential. This weapon counts as a power weapon except that it is AP 2 instead of AP 3.

Any reason why he generally has a statline that's lacking compared to other chapter masters? And any reason why he has S5 when your average SM (including chapter masters) have S4 (Example: is huge even for a SM sorta like Silas Alberec)?

Also, he rather needs a pts value.
Why do so many people make these characters then don't give them a points value.

I don't give most of mine points values because I don't want to make them seem OP right off the bat; I tend to ask for people's opinions first.

King Pariah wrote:Any reason why he generally has a statline that's lacking compared to other chapter masters? And any reason why he has S5 when your average SM (including chapter masters) have S4 (Example: is huge even for a SM sorta like Silas Alberec)?

He's a Chaplain that is a Chapter Master, so I think it's better to look at him as a buffy Chaplain

Avatar 720 wrote:I don't give most of mine points values because I don't want to make them seem OP right off the bat; I tend to ask for people's opinions first.

Use your math skills! Like below.

Chaplain +100 points
+1 WS +10 points
+1 S +10 points
+1 W +10 points
+1 Ini +10 points
+2 A +20 points
2+ Sv +15 points
AP2 PW +5 points
Helm +10 points (Because a normal chaplain makes his own squad Fearless anyways. Maybe 15 points?)
Plasma pistol +15 points
Power Fist (why?) +20 points (I would remove this as a Power Fist, Crozarius, and Plasma Pistol seems like a bulky and overloaded loadout)
Rosarius 0 points (Because I don't know if they changed the Rosarius from 5th ed)
Eternal Warrior +15 points
Counter Attack +10 (If his whole squad gets it, otherwise if it only effects him then 5)
+10% "Cool tax" +25 points (I add these to all characters as it ensures your opponent will be ok with you using a special character)

Add Liturgies of Battle!!
275. I think he's way overloaded, not to the point that he's over powered, but that he is overcosted for what he can do. Drop the Power Fist, drop his Str to 4, A to 3, and maybe Eternal Warrior. Eternal Warrior really only goes to the toughest SOBs in the codexs (and actually to no one in C:SM), this guy didn't strike me as that. Remember that each little thing really adds up! If you drop the Fist, S, A, and EW I would be ok with you fielding him against me for 200.

That requires you to be able to cost custom abilities well, since not everything has an easily comparable upgrade on which to base cost, and you also have to factor in any inherent over/undercost in the upgrades you are basing your calculations off of.

Marshal Aritus.

He become a Marshal when he was young. He has fought in many wars alongside High Marshal Helbrecht and Chaplain Grimaldus. He has the whole armory in his hands. He can be seen in on foot with his Sword Brethren Assault Terminators in combat wearing his Artificer armor, Storm Shield and Lightning claw. He also leads a personal bike squad with him. Storming by killing anything in is path. After years of fighting Tau and being shot by almost every weapon in their arsenal. He has learned that he blessed by the emperor with the strength to withstand heavy gunfire. Making him an essential marine in the Black Templars Chapter and to the Imperium.

WS 5
BS 5
S 4
T 4 (5 in his bike in games)
W 3
I 5
A 3
LD 10
Sv 2+ 3++

Wargear, Lightning Claw, Storm Shield, Bike, Artificer Armor, Adamantium Mantle,

Chapter master antwaro gabrelo WS 6 BS 5 S 4 T 4 W 3 I 5 A 3. Chapter master antwaro gabrelo is chapter master of the pyramid Templars and the chief librarian of the pyramid Templars and how he raised to this rank is unknown but there is a myth that he was a librarian of the imperial fists who led a combat squad of ace tactical marines to assault a necron tomb (that is now their fortress monastry) and they successfully pushed back the alien and now the 5 ace space marines are now his personal honour guard and also he helped the blood angels in the scouring of ultramar and now he has close relations with the blood angels.

felixander wrote:Eternal Warrior really only goes to the toughest SOBs in the codexs (and actually to no one in C:SM), this guy didn't strike me as that. Remember that each little thing really adds up! If you drop the Fist, S, A, and EW I would be ok with you fielding him against me for 200.

umm, might I direct your attention to Calgar and Lysander

Coryphaus Rak'ungal
WS-7 BS-0 S-5 T-4 W-3 I-6 A-6

Rak'ungal is the coryphaus to Kor Phaeron, Dark Cardinal and Master of the Word Bearer's 1st Company. Ancient and lethal, he is known as a warrior who speaks little, other than through the lightning quick sweeps of his Power Talons. During the Siege of Terra, he lost most of his face to a stray bolter shell, and hasnt taken off his helmet since. Which has earned him the nickname 'The Unknowable'. It is said that he only speaks to his Sergeants in the heat of battle, and to Kor Phaeron himself when commanded to speak. He has seen millenia of service, and can be spotted on the battlefield trailed by a thick fog of red mist and enemy limbs. He has never fallen in battle, beleived to be due to his powerfully daemonic Terminator armour, and his silently stoic constitution.

Wargear: Armour of Dark Constitution, Twin Power Talons, Mark of the Dark Cardinal.

Special Rules:
Armour of Dark Consitution: Terminator armour that confers feel no pain
Mark of the Dark Cardinal: A necklace imbued with the rage of killed Ultramarines from the Battle at Calth. Allows Rak'ungal to reroll all 1's when rolling to hit.
Eternal Warrior: Representing Rak'ungals inability to be felled.

BUUUUUT, this is just crazy wishful thinking. I would never try playing this in a game. Though I do have this exact little guy painted up on my desk.

Purifyingflame_7 wrote:Coryphaus Rak'ungal
WS-7 BS-0 S-5 T-4 W-3 I-6 A-6

Rak'ungal is the coryphaus to Kor Phaeron, Dark Cardinal and Master of the Word Bearer's 1st Company. Ancient and lethal, he is known as a warrior who speaks little, other than through the lightning quick sweeps of his Power Talons. During the Siege of Terra, he lost most of his face to a stray bolter shell, and hasnt taken off his helmet since. Which has earned him the nickname 'The Unknowable'. It is said that he only speaks to his Sergeants in the heat of battle, and to Kor Phaeron himself when commanded to speak. He has seen millenia of service, and can be spotted on the battlefield trailed by a thick fog of red mist and enemy limbs. He has never fallen in battle, beleived to be due to his powerfully daemonic Terminator armour, and his silently stoic constitution.

Wargear: Armour of Dark Constitution, Twin Power Talons, Mark of the Dark Cardinal.

Special Rules:
Armour of Dark Consitution: Terminator armour that confers feel no pain
Mark of the Dark Cardinal: A necklace imbued with the rage of killed Ultramarines from the Battle at Calth. Allows Rak'ungal to reroll all 1's when rolling to hit.
Eternal Warrior: Representing Rak'ungals inability to be felled.

BUUUUUT, this is just crazy wishful thinking. I would never try playing this in a game. Though I do have this exact little guy painted up on my desk.

should not be BS0, make it 5
should not be S5, make it 4
what are power talons? there are power fists or lightning claws, clarify what is it you mean
No Fearless? This is stock standard on Chaos Lords
no Ld value?
no Sv?
WS7, I6 and 6 attacks is way too much. That is approaching Abaddon's level. Make it a standard Chaos Lord stat line, and add EITHER 1 WS, S, I or A, not ALL of them! Even Logan Grimnar and Asdrubael Vect only have 5 attacks base.
also, points value please

Calas, BS-0 represents him being shot in the face. His ability to aim normal weapons is limited, and as a Coryphaus, hasnt been forced to pick up a bolt weapon in millenia. But 5 BS if you must. S-5 represents his sheer strength. In all honesty, all Termies should have S-5. But whatever on GW's part. Power Talons are lightining claws that are on oldschool Terminator armour. The SV is 2+, sorry I didnt mention terminator armour. Ld would be 10, I suppose. And yeah, hes second in command to Kor Phaeron. And Kor Phaeron is the second in Command to Lorgar, but isnt as strong as an astartes due to his age when he was turned abhuman, and therefore needs a very powerful Coryphaus to fight his physical battles for him. In all honesty, I will admit that 6 attacks is a bunch. I might lower it to 4. But in the end, hes ancient, hes quick with his claws, and hes almost as high as you can get on the totem pole for the Word Bearer's. Standard Chaos Lord? That would be like an insult. Thats for freaks like Huron Blackheart who turned traitor and arent the real thing. So, to appease you, how does this sound?

Coryphaus Rak'ungal
WS-7 BS-3 S-5 T-4 W-3 I-4 A-4 Ld-10 Sv-2+
Wargear: Armour of Dark Constitution(terminator armour giving Feel No Pain), Twin Lightning Claws, Mark of the Dark Cardinal (re-roll of 1's to hit)
Special Rules: Fearless, Eternal Warrior
Points: 250

Happy now?

Purifyingflame_7 wrote:Calas, BS-0 represents him being shot in the face. His ability to aim normal weapons is limited, and as a Coryphaus, hasnt been forced to pick up a bolt weapon in millenia. But 5 BS if you must. S-5 represents his sheer strength. In all honesty, all Termies should have S-5. But whatever on GW's part. Power Talons are lightining claws that are on oldschool Terminator armour. The SV is 2+, sorry I didnt mention terminator armour. Ld would be 10, I suppose. And yeah, hes second in command to Kor Phaeron. And Kor Phaeron is the second in Command to Lorgar, but isnt as strong as an astartes due to his age when he was turned abhuman, and therefore needs a very powerful Coryphaus to fight his physical battles for him. In all honesty, I will admit that 6 attacks is a bunch. I might lower it to 4. But in the end, hes ancient, hes quick with his claws, and hes almost as high as you can get on the totem pole for the Word Bearer's. Standard Chaos Lord? That would be like an insult. Thats for freaks like Huron Blackheart who turned traitor and arent the real thing. So, to appease you, how does this sound?

Coryphaus Rak'ungal
WS-7 BS-3 S-5 T-4 W-3 I-4 A-4 Ld-10 Sv-2+
Wargear: Armour of Dark Constitution(terminator armour giving Feel No Pain), Twin Lightning Claws, Mark of the Dark Cardinal (re-roll of 1's to hit)
Special Rules: Fearless, Eternal Warrior
Points: 250

Happy now?

lol temper temper...
bring it back to I5, not 4
terminators should NOT be S5, I know the fluff says etc etc but for game balance S4 is sufficient
he't not high on the totem pole, in the 17th Legion only the Dark Apostles are at the top, even as Kor Phaeron's Coryphaus he's not even near the top. Any Dark Apostle would be higher than him, then the Council members, then Kor Phaeron and Erebus, then Lorgar. Read your fluff pls lol
Abaddon was noted as being so huge he nearly couldn't fit into Terminator armour. This guy should be S4.
WS7 is for things like Lucius and Abaddon. Lucius was noted as probably the single best fighter amongst the Legiones Astartes. So yeah.
As for 'appeasing me', frankly I couldn't give a rats ass.
Have a good day

CalasTyphon216 wrote:

felixander wrote:Eternal Warrior really only goes to the toughest SOBs in the codexs (and actually to no one in C:SM), this guy didn't strike me as that. Remember that each little thing really adds up! If you drop the Fist, S, A, and EW I would be ok with you fielding him against me for 200.

umm, might I direct your attention to Calgar and Lysander

Ah I had browsed through the dex quickly and specifically looked at Calgar and didn't see it. I saw it the second time around haha But still, if you look at all the special characters in that book and only 2 out of 9 special HQ characters have it is still a valid point.

CalasTyphon216 wrote:

Purifyingflame_7 wrote:

Spoiler:

Calas, BS-0 represents him being shot in the face. His ability to aim normal weapons is limited, and as a Coryphaus, hasnt been forced to pick up a bolt weapon in millenia. But 5 BS if you must. S-5 represents his sheer strength. In all honesty, all Termies should have S-5. But whatever on GW's part. Power Talons are lightining claws that are on oldschool Terminator armour. The SV is 2+, sorry I didnt mention terminator armour. Ld would be 10, I suppose. And yeah, hes second in command to Kor Phaeron. And Kor Phaeron is the second in Command to Lorgar, but isnt as strong as an astartes due to his age when he was turned abhuman, and therefore needs a very powerful Coryphaus to fight his physical battles for him. In all honesty, I will admit that 6 attacks is a bunch. I might lower it to 4. But in the end, hes ancient, hes quick with his claws, and hes almost as high as you can get on the totem pole for the Word Bearer's. Standard Chaos Lord? That would be like an insult. Thats for freaks like Huron Blackheart who turned traitor and arent the real thing. So, to appease you, how does this sound?

Coryphaus Rak'ungal
WS-7 BS-3 S-5 T-4 W-3 I-4 A-4 Ld-10 Sv-2+
Wargear: Armour of Dark Constitution(terminator armour giving Feel No Pain), Twin Lightning Claws, Mark of the Dark Cardinal (re-roll of 1's to hit)
Special Rules: Fearless, Eternal Warrior
Points: 250

Happy now?

lol temper temper...
bring it back to I5, not 4
terminators should NOT be S5, I know the fluff says etc etc but for game balance S4 is sufficient
he't not high on the totem pole, in the 17th Legion only the Dark Apostles are at the top, even as Kor Phaeron's Coryphaus he's not even near the top. Any Dark Apostle would be higher than him, then the Council members, then Kor Phaeron and Erebus, then Lorgar. Read your fluff pls lol
Abaddon was noted as being so huge he nearly couldn't fit into Terminator armour. This guy should be S4.
WS7 is for things like Lucius and Abaddon. Lucius was noted as probably the single best fighter amongst the Legiones Astartes. So yeah.
As for 'appeasing me', frankly I couldn't give a rats ass.
Have a good day

Passive Aggressiveness isn't necessary for helping people make their character, let's try to stay friendly on both sides

felixander wrote:

CalasTyphon216 wrote:

felixander wrote:Eternal Warrior really only goes to the toughest SOBs in the codexs (and actually to no one in C:SM), this guy didn't strike me as that. Remember that each little thing really adds up! If you drop the Fist, S, A, and EW I would be ok with you fielding him against me for 200.

umm, might I direct your attention to Calgar and Lysander

Ah I had browsed through the dex quickly and specifically looked at Calgar and didn't see it. I saw it the second time around haha But still, if you look at all the special characters in that book and only 2 out of 9 special HQ characters have it is still a valid point.

CalasTyphon216 wrote:

Purifyingflame_7 wrote:

Spoiler:

Calas, BS-0 represents him being shot in the face. His ability to aim normal weapons is limited, and as a Coryphaus, hasnt been forced to pick up a bolt weapon in millenia. But 5 BS if you must. S-5 represents his sheer strength. In all honesty, all Termies should have S-5. But whatever on GW's part. Power Talons are lightining claws that are on oldschool Terminator armour. The SV is 2+, sorry I didnt mention terminator armour. Ld would be 10, I suppose. And yeah, hes second in command to Kor Phaeron. And Kor Phaeron is the second in Command to Lorgar, but isnt as strong as an astartes due to his age when he was turned abhuman, and therefore needs a very powerful Coryphaus to fight his physical battles for him. In all honesty, I will admit that 6 attacks is a bunch. I might lower it to 4. But in the end, hes ancient, hes quick with his claws, and hes almost as high as you can get on the totem pole for the Word Bearer's. Standard Chaos Lord? That would be like an insult. Thats for freaks like Huron Blackheart who turned traitor and arent the real thing. So, to appease you, how does this sound?

Coryphaus Rak'ungal
WS-7 BS-3 S-5 T-4 W-3 I-4 A-4 Ld-10 Sv-2+
Wargear: Armour of Dark Constitution(terminator armour giving Feel No Pain), Twin Lightning Claws, Mark of the Dark Cardinal (re-roll of 1's to hit)
Special Rules: Fearless, Eternal Warrior
Points: 250

Happy now?

lol temper temper...
bring it back to I5, not 4
terminators should NOT be S5, I know the fluff says etc etc but for game balance S4 is sufficient
he't not high on the totem pole, in the 17th Legion only the Dark Apostles are at the top, even as Kor Phaeron's Coryphaus he's not even near the top. Any Dark Apostle would be higher than him, then the Council members, then Kor Phaeron and Erebus, then Lorgar. Read your fluff pls lol
Abaddon was noted as being so huge he nearly couldn't fit into Terminator armour. This guy should be S4.
WS7 is for things like Lucius and Abaddon. Lucius was noted as probably the single best fighter amongst the Legiones Astartes. So yeah.
As for 'appeasing me', frankly I couldn't give a rats ass.
Have a good day

Passive Aggressiveness isn't necessary for helping people make their character, let's try to stay friendly on both sides

o man trolling isn't fun when nobody realises that you're trolling......

OK, so the word trolling and just being rude are different things. Mocking people and being passive aggressive aren't interchangable with "trolling", despite what 80% of the internet think.

felixander wrote:OK, so the word trolling and just being rude are different things. Mocking people and being passive aggressive aren't interchangable with "trolling", despite what 80% of the internet think.

sigh... if you understood what trolling means you would realise i was not being serious...
some people...