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lords2001 wrote:

BrookM wrote:Congratulations to New York Times best selling author Aaron Dembski-Bowden. The First Heretic is at No.28 in this weeks list.

Very nice! Congrats Mr ADB. Hopefully as your book rises up the charts, so does your bank account!

Now if only book depository could actually get me my copy!

Yes, congratulations indeed! Now on Chapter 27 and am absolutely LOVING IT. Great novel. Great!

Pyroriffic wrote:

Just Dave wrote:

Pyroriffic wrote:...one day...

One day.

*wanders off into the distance, muttering something incomprehensible*

Who was that guy? *shifty eyes*

It was me. *equally shifty eyes*

Also. Dude.

Murray the Demonic Talking Skull?

You rock.

Yes, but who is 'he' or 'me'? *doubly shifty eyes*


Oh my god, I love that people - A-D-B and 'you' - are finally getting my Monkey Island Avatars. I could virtual hug you for that *hugs*.
Murray rocks. 5th god of Chaos methinks.
You Rock. Whomever you are...

Many, many congratulations to Mr. D.B.C. indeed, it's very well deserved indeed.

If Blood Reaver is late there wil be blood however.

Oh, and welcome aboard "Mr." Pyroriffic too, glad to see you're aboard.

@Just Dave: How could I not 'get' Guybrush Threepwood, Mighty Pirate? I learned some of my best insults from those games.

I can’t rest ‘til you’ve been exterminated.
Then perhaps you should switch to decaffeinated.

@reds8n: Thankee kindly. I'll make sure to keep my arms and legs inside the car at all times. AND REMEMBER! No flash photography!

I - literally - lol'ed. I learned that door-hinge does almost rhyme with orange and that Skull Island looks more like a duck... Or a rabbit...

I'll hound you night and day.
Then be a good dog. Sit. Stay.

Good times.

"We'll all avoid scurvy if we eat an orange."

Maybe a TCoMI thread should be set up in the video games section?

There should totally be a TCoMI thread. And Grim Fandango, another underrated but brilliant game.

This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine...

Oh, and Just Dave? I bothered with my profile so you can cease your pondering.

And a thread has been created: Here.
Who's to betting we're the only people who use it?

aaaah! Thank you Sar---Pyro. I knew I recognised the name. Pleasure to have you 'aboard'. I was just about to ask Reds8n if he knew who you were/are too...

None-the-less, I'm going back to the 1st Heretic. Must. Read. MORE!!

Hehe, this thread is slowly starting to fill up with BL talent, nice.

I was thinking the same thing... Maybe we could convert them all to Dakka, keep them for ourselves, create our own uber-book-publishing company and then sell the novels for lots and lots of money. Then, we use said profit to both keep Frazzled locked up and the Grog flowing?

... No? OK...

*crawls back into box*

Just finished the First Heretic and it certainly fits in with the rest of the series.

I especially liked the

Now on to Firedrake we go, then it's counting down until January for the big two that will kick off a great year.

@BrookM - that particular sequence was also one of my favourites in the book. And there was much to enjoy.

Maybe I'm growing tired of all those battles. It's the little things like that I enjoy most about the HH series so far. Those tiny shout outs, pointing fingers and inside remarks. Though I still frown at Graham's remark about Tallarn in the False Gods. But he more than made up for it with Mechanicum and that short story about the last church on Terra, ohohoho, delicious hubris.

I completely agree BrookM. I hate (?) to admit it, but many of the best segments aren't fight scenes, although I do like some of them, particularly that involve the Primarchs. Just so many of the really smart, really small details that appeals to me. It's a largely great series so far...
I can't recall what you are on about to do with the Tallarn though? Care to enlighten me?

In regards to The First Heretic:

Mind you, a lot of the background regarding the Heresy has already been cast into stone by Alan Merett I think it was, who did most of the work on the Horus Heresy Collected Visions background. That serves as the framework I think that the authors can play around in.

As for the babies: The latter is Angron, the prior I think was Perturabo.

During False Gods, one of the remembrancers, the poet, made this remark: ‘I hope the Warmaster will be here soon. My mouth’s as dry as a Tallarn’s sandal and I could use a bloody drink.’

Now then, Tallarn didn't turn into a desert until the Heresy happened, which is still some time off at the time of him saying that.

Just Dave wrote:I completely agree BrookM. I hate (?) to admit it, but many of the best segments aren't fight scenes, although I do like some of them, particularly that involve the Primarchs. Just so many of the really smart, really small details that appeals to me. It's a largely great series so far...

From my own observations, I think there's a really difficult balance with the fighting/more philosophical stuff. You're never going to get people to agree which they like more, so it's probably quite important to achieve a balance of plot and character development combined with RARSHOOTYBANGBANGPIOWPIOWLASERS. I think AD-B achieves it very, very nicely in The First Heretic. I have heard people who prefer non-stop action with a side helping of shootydeathkillinspace say that it was well written, but not their 'Thing'.

Man, that made no sense. This is what happens when I get two hours sleep and try to post coherently.

Nope, both yours and BrookM's posts made perfect sense. I reckon much of the novels so far have struck a good balance of combat and 'storytelling', which I like as both appeal to me.

As for the babies, that's what I thought it was, wasn't sure though. Thanks for the almost clarification though, we'd have to ask AD-B to be sure though.
I get what you mean about the Tallarn thing now, I definitely didn't know that about Tallarn now, but to be fair, there's been very few of such slip-up's happen during the series and for the more ignorant (me), it's just a bad similie rather than incorrect.

The whole punchy to thinky ratio depends on the subject really. A Thousand Sons as an example was a slow starter, but it befits the subject. I'm thinking that Prospero Burns will be the complete opposite if Dan is sticking to what he does best.

BrookM wrote:The whole punchy to thinky ratio depends on the subject really. A Thousand Sons as an example was a slow starter, but it befits the subject. I'm thinking that Prospero Burns will be the complete opposite if Dan is sticking to what he does best.

A Thousand Sons ranks right up there in my top three of the Heresy series to date. I absolutely loved the Thousand Sons as a legion and despite Magnus's own foolishness and unashamed arrogance, Dan is going to have to produce something pretty damn amazing* to make me even begin to have any empathy for Leman Russ. The hairy man comes over as little more than a thug and a bully as seen through the eyes of the Thousand Sons, so I'm looking forward to the counter viewpoint.

* this is a redundant statement. I know, already.

Edited: Because I'd worded it so Dan was foolish and unashamedly arrogant. Which wasn't what I meant at all. Honest, Dakka-verse.

Soo eventually, the Horus Heresey Series is going to come to an end yes....well, what then?

What I am meant to salivate over then mmmm?

The Scourging?

Mr Mystery wrote:Soo eventually, the Horus Heresey Series is going to come to an end yes....well, what then?

What I am meant to salivate over then mmmm?

Maybe, after Horus Heresy is over (for what, the third retelling?) they can stop fellating Marines long enough to focus on something more interesting, like a Xenos story, or perhaps a few more Human stories.

Well, one can hope. I miss the old Ork stories (even if they were somewhat comedic), and just haven't seen enough Eldar stories outside of wonky fanfiction. And Tau... well, they don't get any love.



It's either that or they'll get bored and decide to redo the Horus Heresy again.

Melissia wrote:Maybe, after Horus Heresy is over (for what, the third retelling?) they can stop fellating Marines long enough to focus on something more interesting, like a Xenos story, or perhaps a few more Human stories.

yeah, i'm tired of those marine-centric books that they've been coming out with in the last 6 months like Fear the Alien and Path of the Warrior. enough is enough!

Oh god. here we go...

*dives into cover*

Alpharius wrote:The Scourging?

Yes, they wanted to this and expand on what happened during the aftermath, even bring back a few of the earlier series characters.

Melissia wrote:

Mr Mystery wrote:Soo eventually, the Horus Heresey Series is going to come to an end yes....well, what then?

What I am meant to salivate over then mmmm?

Maybe, after Horus Heresy is over (for what, the third retelling?) they can stop fellating Marines long enough to focus on something more interesting, like a Xenos story, or perhaps a few more Human stories.

Well, one can hope. I miss the old Ork stories (even if they were somewhat comedic), and just haven't seen enough Eldar stories outside of wonky fanfiction. And Tau... well, they don't get any love.



It's either that or they'll get bored and decide to redo the Horus Heresy again.

What the heck are you talking about?

There are NO other 'retellings' of the Horus Heresy outside of extremely short stories located in odd places.

Give it a rest already.

Melissia wrote:

Mr Mystery wrote:Soo eventually, the Horus Heresey Series is going to come to an end yes....well, what then?

What I am meant to salivate over then mmmm?

Maybe, after Horus Heresy is over (for what, the third retelling?) they can stop fellating Marines long enough to focus on something more interesting, like a Xenos story, or perhaps a few more Human stories.

Well, one can hope. I miss the old Ork stories (even if they were somewhat comedic), and just haven't seen enough Eldar stories outside of wonky fanfiction. And Tau... well, they don't get any love.



It's either that or they'll get bored and decide to redo the Horus Heresy again.

You won't see many books written from the point of view of Xenos.

Why?
Because they almost always end up as crap and remove alot of the "alien" about the Xenos.

Eldar, Orks, Tau? They're not human. They're not going to be something that can be written in a way to appeal to everyone without breaking the 4th wall or completely molesting the established background.

Sorry to go off topic but isn't Aquillon a Adeptus Custode name?

Yes, yes it is.

Regarding the desperate need for non-human novels: Go read Path of the Warrior by Gav, it is good.

warboss wrote:yeah, i'm tired of those marine-centric books that they've been coming out with in the last 6 months like Fear the Alien and Path of the Warrior. enough is enough!

Amusing sarcasm aside, I plan on reading both of them whenever I get the money (which is tight once more, as I have to pay for spring classes in the next couple weeks). But they're still just a drop in the bucket compared to the Imperium, heck, even just the Marine themed ones. Yeah, I know it's been said a thousand times over, but that doesn't make it any less true...

BrookM wrote:Yes, yes it is.

Regarding the desperate need for non-human novels: Go read Path of the Warrior by Gav, it is good.

Really? Better than the Last Chancers stuff, I hope?

William King's Farseer novels were set to explore the Eldar mindset in the best way possible: starting with a human viewpoint and then bringing in alien elements, with a promise of more and more direct mental contact and new concepts. Unfortunately then he left BL for a while. Now that he's back (I'm not hallucinating that, am I?) we can hope that the series gets finished. In fact, perhaps some sort of write-in campaign to request that is in order. Haven't read "Path of the Warrior" yet, but I seriously doubt Gav has King's chops. And the Eldar _deserve_ some serious chops.

And damn, Heretic is good. The HH series seems to shine with emotional material, whether in or out of battle scenes. So far (Chapter 12), Heretic is true to that form. Nice work, ADB.