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Gathering the Informations.

Doubtful. The Deep Strike ability is a pretty hefty ability as is, especially when combined with the Mask for nailing a character reliant list.
   
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@jack mojo and redemption.. sorry I thought it just had to hit.. thankyou for helping my reading comprehension..

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Death-Dealing Devastator




Vancouver Canada

Can the Sang Guard assault after deep striking? Maybe something like the Vanguard?
   
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HD300 wrote:Umm, no gak. I'm letting you know the ability to take Sanguine Guard as troops is the only reason people would take him.


I don't know whether people would field him or not. If they don't that's fine. But I don't just play people who are competitive, so he might come up. And regardless, my objection boils down to the fact that I don't get -any- influence on whether or not my character gets nerfed or not. If Dante is fielded, my character gets gimped. That's a poor game mechanic that just isn't much fun to play against.

And for the record, my head is neither pretty nor little. I'd prefer if you spoke to me in a more respectful manner.
   
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Montgomery, AL

Homer S wrote:Land Raiders deep strike by Thunderhawk that release them close to the ground. Think Mass Effect and the Mako.

11 dreads max in a standard FOC: 3 Furioso Dread as Elite, 3 Normal Dread as Heavy and 1 DC Dread as Troops per 5 DC models (so 5 max with single Troops unit of 25-30).

Homer


And you have Zero Scoring units. In a Kill point mission your great, otherwise your hoping for a tie. But since 2/3 of the missions are objective, your screwed.

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Galveston County

Gabriel Seth, Chapter Master of the Flesh Tearers – Captain stat line Armed with a very large Chainsword (S8, rending), Bolt Pistol and Iron Halo
Can forgo his normal attacks and cause one auto-hit on everything in base to base contact with him
If an enemy rolls 1 to hit him, he hits back with a basic close combat attack.
Causes all units with Red Thirst to suffer it on a 1-3.


He's so good, he slaps you when you miss.

This and the dread grappling hooks are awesome.

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tgjensen wrote:
HD300 wrote:Umm, no gak. I'm letting you know the ability to take Sanguine Guard as troops is the only reason people would take him.


I don't know whether people would field him or not. If they don't that's fine. But I don't just play people who are competitive, so he might come up. And regardless, my objection boils down to the fact that I don't get -any- influence on whether or not my character gets nerfed or not. If Dante is fielded, my character gets gimped. That's a poor game mechanic that just isn't much fun to play against.

And for the record, my head is neither pretty nor little. I'd prefer if you spoke to me in a more respectful manner.


I'd prefer if you stopped complaining about a character that's arguably underpowered - We don't always get what we want, though. His ability isn't even that great - Oh no your HQ just got snubbed - Power fist Dante like you do every other non-EW character and move on.
   
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Deep Frier of Mount Doom

do the death co dreads retain the current extra d3 attacks on the charge? do they only have close combat weapons or can you put plasma cannons and such on them? (hey, death company infantry can have bolters...)
   
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Oakville, Ontario, Canada

Someone has posted an unboxing video over at miniwargaming.com

http://www.miniwargaming.com/content/prerelease-blood-angels-black-box

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California

This codex is awesome.
   
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southern sweden

This codex is OTT broken.
Deepstriking land raiders...
   
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Montgomery, AL

Izual wrote:This codex is OTT broken.
Deepstriking land raiders...


I think i missed that rumor.

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Alaska

Nice to see the cover art is not as lame as we feared...

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Alaska

Enjoy, those of you who haven't seen it yet.
[Thumb - codex cover.JPG]
BA New Codex Cover


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Fast rhinos with assault squads as troops.

-Game
-Broken

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Do you remember that time that thing happened?
This is a bad thread and you should all feel bad 
   
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Ooh, red Space Marines

   
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Middlesbrough, UK

...I can foresee everyone in my local GW repainting their Marines to BA. I hate flavour of the month, but I guess after a while a lot of people will move onto whatever the next release is. I've been playing BA on-and-off since about 2001, so I'm pumped for the new 'Dex (even if some of the stuff sounds completely broken and/or stupid).

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Alaska

My first army was Blood angels, so I am stoked. They'll move on soon enough... just like IG players are selling all their stuff now.

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tgjensen wrote:I don't know whether people would field him or not. If they don't that's fine. But I don't just play people who are competitive, so he might come up. And regardless, my objection boils down to the fact that I don't get -any- influence on whether or not my character gets nerfed or not. If Dante is fielded, my character gets gimped. That's a poor game mechanic that just isn't much fun to play against.


I don't necessarily disagree about it being a poor game mechanic, but I did just want to point out that Dante was not the first thing to the table with this, Deathleaper seems to have that honor.

If it really is limited to enemy Independent characters some armies can skate past it entirely unmolested fairly easily (IG, CSM, Tyranids, Daemons) and that is the rules part that bugs me most, its widely dissimilar impact on different enemies.

Jack

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Fast tank-shocking rhinos with flamers and maybe hand flamers (can tac sgts take hand flamers?).

If BA hose Mech IG and Mechdar, I'm a happy man.

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Alaska

It is no poorer than nids affecting leadership rolls with the deathleaper or broodlord, IMO. In fact, because of being limited in scope, I would say its even less of a factor. Considering the price of Dante (probably comparable to Grimnar) it comes at a cost.

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So can you assault out of a deep striking land raider the turn it comes in?

If the psy power works just like jawws with the line I can see it being nasty to snipe out special weapon troops and sarge's and the like. str8 ap1 hit > init test

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Special Characters are amazingly expensive at present and their only real use is to make bloody great holes during Apocalypse games in all honesty.

I have 10 unassembled tactical marines no...wait I have a large amount of unassembled marines hmmmmm I wonder if I can get away with assembling Blood Angels early....

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Seattle WA

My first thought? I really like the idea of using the MagnaGrapple on a battlewagon...

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Dread - "GET OVER HERE!"

Oh this will be nice...Gonna by the codex and flying death ship.

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Arlington, VA

Zarake wrote:Dread - "GET OVER HERE!"

Oh this will be nice...Gonna by the codex and flying death ship.


So... Deep Strike a Dread, Shoot LR, Drag it to Base 2 Base, And 2 + d3 DCCW attacks (?)...
   
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Why are people calling this stuff broken? What the heck am I missing? The game is broken when 250 points of Tactical Marines with a PF Sergeant are racing towards you 18" per turn in a 50 point AV11 transport? What the heck are those guys trying to achieve? Do they still think it's 3rd edition? A bunch of blast from the past guys trying to assault a Chimera a turn after disembarking? Incredible.

Fast Vindicators? Yeah, someone might actually use a Vindicator now so that's good news. Being playable is very different to being overpowered. The Storm Raven? A Vendetta except for an extra 100 points for some transport capacity and with all the cool lascannons exchanged with one shot hunter killer missiles. Surely this will now break the game.

A T6 Librarian that doesn't have an invulnerable save and costs 285 points? Yes, it's just all over now.

Come on, please, stop with the OTT crap, unless OTT is actually a keyword for 'underwhelming'. I've yet to spot a single thing that would make jump packers or Rhino mounted assault orientated squads truly viable.

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Kansas

So the question is, when you "spear" a vehicle, do your attacks still hit on 4+/6+ respectively, if it moved last turn? If it didn't move last turn, do you still get to automatically hit it, even if you moved the speared vehicle over 6 inches?

I'm assuming yes and yes.

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Gathering the Informations.

FoxPhoenix135 wrote:It is no poorer than nids affecting leadership rolls with the deathleaper or broodlord, IMO. In fact, because of being limited in scope, I would say its even less of a factor. Considering the price of Dante (probably comparable to Grimnar) it comes at a cost.

Deathleaper's expires once he dies. It even says in the ability list "as long as Deathleaper is still alive". The Broodlord abilities are Psychic tests.

Neither of which are the same as just nominating one model at the beginning of the game and altering it with no chance of negating it.
   
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Khornatedemon wrote:So can you assault out of a deep striking land raider the turn it comes in?


Nope
   
 
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