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Anung Un Rama wrote:I really hope the new army is not Fishmen. I mean seriously, Fishmen???
Fishmen. Fishmen. Roly-poly fishmen.
Fishmen. Fishmen. Paint them up. Yumm!
I think there are enough humans and elves, that Araby, Cathay, Nippon etc should be not human
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I think there are enough humans and elves, that Araby, Cathay, Nippon etc should be not human
There's what, TWO human factions?
And if you don't see the problem with making (another) real-world ethnic group into subhuman monsters (hello Aztec frog men) then well, you really need to think.
Anyway, I heard from my buddy who once sent an email to England that the new army is Dark Wood Elfs.
I think there are enough humans and elves, that Araby, Cathay, Nippon etc should be not human
There's what, TWO human factions?
And if you don't see the problem with making (another) real-world ethnic group into subhuman monsters (hello Aztec frog men) then well, you really need to think.
Anyway, I heard from my buddy who once sent an email to England that the new army is Dark Wood Elfs.
Empire
Brettonia
Human chaos (evil steroid humans)
High elves (skinny humans)
Dark elves
Wood elves
Dwarfs (short humans)
Areas of the old world with nowadays equivalents, if non human isn't necessarily derogatory. It's not like Araby is going to be made up of Camel people, or Cathey evil snake people.
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They'll produce an Army Book for them, release a poorly realized model line complete with a tremendously ugly core troops unit, then aside from a re-released Army Book with minor changes will proceed to largely ignore the race for the next 10 years...
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BrookM wrote:Nippon is the Japanese variant in fantasy, Cathay is China.
An army of Nipponese schoolgirls? If it is Chaos Dwarves I could see "War Machines of Chaos" as when I worked for GW the idea behind Chaos was 3 armies. They were Chaos Mortals, Beastmen, and War Machines of Chaos. Then again they put the Demons out....
I've never been a fan of the completely daemon lists.. daemons belong in any and all Chaos armies.. (of course, not with CD's... but then we get into a huge derailment..)
Areas of the old world with nowadays equivalents, if non human isn't necessarily derogatory. It's not like Araby is going to be made up of Camel people, or Cathey evil snake people.
Don't speak too soon...
There was a rumor a while back that the Chinese would be pig-men and the joke would be how they always say the humans of Europe are savages and uncivilized.
Anyway I misspoke before, the new army will be Chaos Lizardmen.
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I think you're all wrong. The new army will be a GW fanboy's wet dream, a chance for their sculptors to finally realise their dreams.
SKULL KINGDOMS!
Yeah baby.
So like, for your lord choice you can have either a Magic Skull dude, who gets his own lore of Skull magic (some spells rumoured to effect the skull pits on the Realm of Battle, or do increasing damage as a function of the skulls on the enemy miniature.
You can also have a badass Skull Lord made of skulls who has a flail made of skulls. He can ride a giant skull-monster that spits skulls.
I heard the Core Units are going to mostly be swarms of Skulls with the "MOAR SKULLS!" special rule allowing them to respawn if killed. Cavalry in the form of giant skulls being ridden by smaller skulls will also be a Core choice, with the heavier armoured Skullz being a special choice.
Or it could be spike kingdoms. With each model a spike, covered in spikes, with spikes for eyes, wielding a spikey weapon. Special units include spikey chain wielders.
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namegoeshere wrote:Or it could be spike kingdoms. With each model a spike, covered in spikes, with spikes for eyes, wielding a spikey weapon. Special units include spikey chain wielders.
I imagine it goes without saying that they may select spiky bits to re-roll a to hit?
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hammerofulric wrote:I have it on good authority from a blue shirt (no more red shirts in the UK)
Fishmen.
Anung Un Rama wrote:I really hope the new army is not Fishmen. I mean seriously, Fishmen???. There's nothing in that concept a creative player couldn't do with Lizardmen or Woodelves.
...aside from making an army of awesome Fishmen models you mean? The reason the world needs GW to take Fishmen seriously is because there is no good source of Fishmen models. (Apologies to everyone listed HERE.) And what's cooler than a Fishman? Not a whole lot. Lou Reed maybe.
There was a rumor a while back that the Chinese would be pig-men and the joke would be how they always say the humans of Europe are savages and uncivilized.
There was also (way back, late 90s) a rumor that there would be a Mudman army (cringe). The point isn't that all non-human armies are bad, the point is that every WHFB army not based in northern Europe or North America is non-human. I don't think there's anything malicious about it; the company is based in the UK and far-away places are always more exotic (ask Herodotus). But it's 2009, maybe we can move forward a bit an acknowledge that not everyone in the southern hemisphere is half-beast.
I've always thought a fantasy-tinged Asian army (historical-ish things like samurai and ashigaru plus ninjas, warrior monks, kirin, dragons, etc) would be a massive, massive seller for GW. I think I once read an interview w/ a studio person saying if and when they did a Cathay/Nippon army GW wanted it to be something really unique and not just follow the standard Fantasy Orient template. I respect that, but...I would totally dig a WHFB army based on the standard Fantasy Orient template.
But then I would also dig a Cthulhu-ripoff fishman army, so what do I know?
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Anung Un Rama wrote:I really hope the new army is not Fishmen. I mean seriously, Fishmen???
Fishmen. Fishmen. Roly-poly fishmen.
Fishmen. Fishmen. Paint them up. Yumm!
I think there are enough humans and elves, that Araby, Cathay, Nippon etc should be not human
I remember when Beavis and Butthead saw a version of the Fishheads song. I feel that their facial response is pretty close to the general population's response to a fismen army.
Personally I think it would be kind of cool (you know they're like lizardmen, but with seahorses). But wouldn't the fluff limit them to staying within crawling distance of a water feature.
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According to my buddy who once shook Jervis Johnson's hand (but not the GW Jervis Johnson, Jervis Johnson CPA from Binghamton NY, it was his sister-in-law's cousin) it's either Light Beastmen or Sea Dwarves.
Sea Dwarves are dwarves in these massive steam powered submarines with pneumatic diving robots and steam-powered harpoon guns.
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They're calling them Light Beastmen? Srsly?
According to my buddy who once shook Jervis Johnson's hand (but not the GW Jervis Johnson, Jervis Johnson CPA from Binghamton NY, it was his sister-in-law's cousin) it's either Light Beastmen or Sea Dwarves.
Sea Dwarves are dwarves in these massive steam powered submarines with pneumatic diving robots and steam-powered harpoon guns.
I heard the concept art is awesome!
I heard everyone would want to play them.
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According to my buddy who once shook Jervis Johnson's hand (but not the GW Jervis Johnson, Jervis Johnson CPA from Binghamton NY, it was his sister-in-law's cousin) it's either Light Beastmen or Sea Dwarves.
Sea Dwarves are dwarves in these massive steam powered submarines with pneumatic diving robots and steam-powered harpoon guns.
I heard the concept art is awesome!
Huh. I heard the Sea Dwarves were more Polynesian style with out-riggered dugout canoes and hats made of woven palm fronds - sorta like Yosemite Sam in the old Bugs Bunny cartoon when he and Bugs get stuck on a deserted island.
Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack
Sparta army? ( SM equivalent of Fantasy? )
Because Empire seriously... looks too silly.
What do you mean? Poofy pants are SO HOT right now.
And so, due to rising costs of maintaining the Golden Throne, the Emperor's finest accountants spoke to the Demigurg. A deal was forged in blood and extensive paperwork for a sub-prime mortgage with a 5/1 ARM on the Imperial Palace. And lo, in the following years the housing market did tumble and the rate skyrocketed leaving the Emperor's coffers bare. A dark time has begun for the Imperium, the tithes can not keep up with the balloon payments and the Imperial Palace and its contents, including the Golden Throne, have fallen into foreclosure. With an impending auction on the horizon mankind holds its breath as it waits to see who will gain possession of the corpse-god and thus, the fate of humanity......
I really hope the new army is not Fishmen. I mean seriously, Fishmen???. There's nothing in that concept a creative player couldn't do with Lizardmen or Woodelves.
What if the fishmen are the troops of Cthulu?(Deep Ones) Dark hounds supporting them. Fungal lobsters things in the air? Greater Non-Deamon of Cthulhu!!!! Madness!!!
Some of the Dark Elf stuff points in that direction. A deep underground sea? Ancient civilization. Dude with a squid mask.
That would be cool!
Every game can use a goodly amount of Cthulhu! That said, my personal hope would be either for Dogs of War, or a Human nation based on the Byzantine Empire (but thats a pure pipe dream that will never happen)
All i really want are a ton of multi-bit humans who arnt in renaissance german cloths that I can use for all sorts of projects