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Da Boss wrote:I'm sad that there will be no new Chaos Dwarves apparently. Really sad.

Hmmm... ? Don't be.

But don't hold your breath either.

But they do have their fans in the design studio/at GW's head office.

Have you read the new "Knight of the Realm" novel from BL ? Chaos dwarfs in there. What I noted was that the high/top hats in that book are, apparently, limited to the nobles or "upper class" members of their society.

Don't buy/read the book just for chaos dwarf stuff though! Very much a minor role still I'm afraid.

Given their frequent mention in the warhammer fluff -- and their minor inclusion in the WFRPG supplements here and there I think they will be doing something with them.

As to when...pffttt.... roll for it ?

Right so. I'm not massively invested but I think I would collect them if GW released minis for them.

LunaHound wrote:
GW in china??
Asian themed army possibility??
Something that is equally cool to us AND to the chinese ??

Easy, i present you Pandaren (panda men)

Just as a note to add to this:

Someone a long while ago asked Blizzard if they would ever include the Pandaren as a playable race and was quickly shot down. Apparently because the panda is so sacred in China, it would be viewed as disrespectful to offer it as a playable race.

I'm assuming GW would take that same approach and opt not to use anything that any country/religious views could find offense.

ChaoticFlanagan wrote:
Just as a note to add to this:

Someone a long while ago asked Blizzard if they would ever include the Pandaren as a playable race and was quickly shot down. Apparently because the panda is so sacred in China, it would be viewed as disrespectful to offer it as a playable race.

I'm assuming GW would take that same approach and opt not to use anything that any country/religious views could find offense.

.....say what?

Do you have any idea how many kinds of hell would break loose if people who didn't play Warhammer find out about the Imperium fluff here in Germany? This stuff is so full of fashist thoughts, I'm surprised it's not banned altogether.

HAHAHA, Fallout 3 got banned in India because of two-headed cows bearing the name of their priest caste.

How the hell can you make the Panda a national animal? That creature is the biggest loser of mother nature for pete's sake!

BrookM wrote:? That creature is the biggest loser of mother nature for pete's sake!

that's what they want you to think.

Fight the future !

Just reading your sig reds8n. I assume you love "If you like it so much why don't you go live there?" as much as I do?

Would it be worth debating that if a new race was to arrive on the scene in fantasy then one of the others may be forced to ''take a back seat'' a la Chaos Dwarves/DE?
I personally think Brettonians are the most uninspired race out there, so would happily sacrifice them for some more creature features. Like Elephant Men from Araby, or some such business. Not in the ''bag over the head'' sense; more bloodied Babar.

Panda looks cute & friendly - until he bites your head off!

I'd like to see a necromancer/liche priest based undead army (like the OLD one), it could happen, they have been hinting at it for years, or zombie pirates, who does'nt lovezombie pirates?

After the mess in Somalia, I think a lot of people don't like Pirates any more...

JohnHwangDD wrote:After the mess in Somalia, I think a lot of people don't like Pirates any more...

those guys ride around in power boats and skiffs shooting machine guns. no true pirate would be caught dead in one of those pretend pirate ships.
those arent the pirates we be loving matey... arrrggghhh!!!

Anti-Mag wrote:Would it be worth debating that if a new race was to arrive on the scene in fantasy then one of the others may be forced to ''take a back seat'' a la Chaos Dwarves/DE?
I personally think Brettonians are the most uninspired race out there, so would happily sacrifice them for some more creature features. Like Elephant Men from Araby, or some such business. Not in the ''bag over the head'' sense; more bloodied Babar.

You shut your mouth.

Babar sucks ass.

I would really like to see an Araby army made for Fantasy. GW has already made a Warmaster version of it, and the model line for the diminutive game would be interesting scaled up, particularly now that the plastics development is so nice. War Elephants are cool, so are flying carpets, along with assorted infantry. Magic users, maybe a Djinn, all cool ideas that could have a Warhammer spin on them- I think the sculpting these days could make that an interesting and different kind of human army. Plus it fills out an existing area of the warhammer map that is fairly exotic. It also plays into a nice competitive scenario versus Tomb Kings for that part of the world.

I want to see a Samurai Army.

Didn't the warseer thread mention the new army being as big an impact as chaos? I don't feel like any of the suggested armies so far are as setting-affecting as chaos is.

Hey, an Eastern Army would be, as we would see a massively larger portion of the Warhammer World Designed.

It is going to be Cathay, which is why it was added to the map for the first time with the WoC codex. As for whether they'll be human or not, that we don't know yet.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Yes, all shall fear our boomerang launchers and kangaroo APCs!

I want to play that wargame!

I would love a nippon army be it human or humanoid, love it.

ashigaru with spears, halberds and maybe some kind of bo weapon (no shields)
ashigaru archers

samurai with spears, halberds and katana (confer rkilling blow, +1 str 2 handed)
samurai archers

samurai cavalry

some funky units based on famous units of samurai

firework based war machines, maybe even a hwancha (technically korean but I wouldn't mind because it is so damn cool)

skirmishing martial artists with various different skills based on their arts and weapons
ninja skirmishers or ninja asassin heroes

ronin heroes that are unbreakable

samurai lords riding dragons

maybe somekind of tengu/ogre equivalent without stupidity


sadly the problem is finding a distinctive playing style and really it would be "better infantry than empire, worse than chaos, worse war machines than empire but better than chaos, some monsters." Whilst any of the eastern armies mentioned would be very cool they all suffer from being halfway between the empire and chaos and not having a distinctive playing niche. That was the big breakthrough with ogre kingdoms, mapping some cool fluff onto a totally unique playing style.

Anung Un Rama wrote:I really hope the new army is not Fishmen. I mean seriously, Fishmen???

Fishmen. Fishmen. Roly-poly fishmen.
Fishmen. Fishmen. Paint them up. Yumm!

bravelybravesirrobin wrote:
ashigaru with spears, halberds and maybe some kind of bo weapon (no shields)
ashigaru archers

samurai with spears, halberds and katana (confer rkilling blow, +1 str 2 handed)
samurai archers

samurai cavalry

some funky units based on famous units of samurai

firework based war machines, maybe even a hwancha (technically korean but I wouldn't mind because it is so damn cool)

skirmishing martial artists with various different skills based on their arts and weapons
ninja skirmishers or ninja asassin heroes

ronin heroes that are unbreakable

samurai lords riding dragons

maybe somekind of tengu/ogre equivalent without stupidity

Great ideas you've got there, real possibilities. Unfortunately I think you could do a lot of those pretty well with high elves, with all their elite infantry and archery and such. Or dark elves for similar reasons. Or wood elves for similar reasons (mostly, it depends on your emphasis).

Now ogres and T4 fighters*, well you're just getting crazy there as far as the elves are concerned

- Salvage

*disregarding the treemonics

Hmmm, maybe Cathay? Or Chaos Dwarfs (hopefully)

I have it on high authority, as I sit in on the board meetings at GW, that it's an army of ninja's.

Clan Eshin roots would be further explained that way.

LunaHound wrote:
GW in china??
Asian themed army possibility??
Something that is equally cool to us AND to the chinese ??

Easy, i present you Pandaren (panda men)

While ren is Chinese for person, panda is not Chinese for Panda.

熊猫人 (xiongmao ren or bear-cat-men) would be correct

Now why a species that's too damn lazy to reproduce would get an awesome cool name like bear-cats is beyond me.

This has been your pendantic Chinese lesson for the day.

ChaoticFlanagan wrote:Just as a note to add to this:

Someone a long while ago asked Blizzard if they would ever include the Pandaren as a playable race and was quickly shot down. Apparently because the panda is so sacred in China, it would be viewed as disrespectful to offer it as a playable race.

I'm assuming GW would take that same approach and opt not to use anything that any country/religious views could find offense.

Pandas (or delicious bear cats as we call them here) aren't really sacred in the religious sense but they are nationalist symbols like bald eagles (or delicious bald eagles as we call them here). So probably it's a more of a 'don't piss off the Chinese government who has all the emotional maturity of a 6 year old' sort of thing than religious sensitivity. They also censored WoW because they felt skeletons were too scary (though killing people and taking their money is apparently fine).

Boss_Salvage wrote:

bravelybravesirrobin wrote:
ashigaru with spears, halberds and maybe some kind of bo weapon (no shields)
ashigaru archers

samurai with spears, halberds and katana (confer rkilling blow, +1 str 2 handed)
samurai archers

samurai cavalry

some funky units based on famous units of samurai

firework based war machines, maybe even a hwancha (technically korean but I wouldn't mind because it is so damn cool)

skirmishing martial artists with various different skills based on their arts and weapons
ninja skirmishers or ninja asassin heroes

ronin heroes that are unbreakable

samurai lords riding dragons

maybe somekind of tengu/ogre equivalent without stupidity

Great ideas you've got there, real possibilities. Unfortunately I think you could do a lot of those pretty well with high elves, with all their elite infantry and archery and such. Or dark elves for similar reasons. Or wood elves for similar reasons (mostly, it depends on your emphasis).

Do players really want or care about innovative new special rules? I find that players want cool models and they want to win. I've never heard anyone complain that army A's mechanics are not innovative enough. Usually its the opposite, that a new army has too many new rules that don't work.

Daggermaw wrote:I have it on high authority, as I sit in on the board meetings at GW, that it's an army of ninja's.

I heard it was pirate ninjas. With annimosity tests.

But seriously, I'd like to see a nippon army. There's not enough good samurai and ninja minis out there.

I don't even play fantasy but would be tempted if I could build an army of Ninjas.

Not to be a totla shill but if you'd like to see plastic Far East there's quite a few proposals at Wargames Factory.

http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/forum/category/far-east-submissions/page1/

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/league_fareast

odmiller wrote:It is going to be Cathay, which is why it was added to the map for the first time with the WoC codex.

Good catch. That's the kind of clue that GW likes to leave.

gorgon wrote:

odmiller wrote:It is going to be Cathay, which is why it was added to the map for the first time with the WoC codex.

Good catch. That's the kind of clue that GW likes to leave.

Cathay's been on the map for eons, the High Elf book 4 years back or so had a map of the entire world.