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Damn, Whitedragon, why did you have to post a pic of your ass?!?!

I replaced it with the haemonculous greens pic, just to clear the thread.

Sheesh.

What I'm debating is whether or not I'm going to upgrade my 50+ painted Dark Eldar Warriors for the new plastics. I love new plastics, but I hate painting models... Hmmm...

I'd be totally down with new bikes and other support choices though!

whitedragon wrote:

Brimstone wrote:
Depends what you mean 'getting ready for release' they are not due out this year but earlier than I thought in 2010.

The models are amazing (with Jes doing them could they be anything else) that conflicts with my bias against T3 pointy ears.

Brimstone, would you be talking about these?



Looks like pretty definitive proof of work on the DE codex and model range to me!

Amazing, new DE greens?

Iorek wrote:Damn, Whitedragon, why did you have to post a pic of your ass?!?!

I replaced it with the haemonculous greens pic, just to clear the thread.

Sheesh.

Yea, my bad, I somehow linked the wrong one .

Ozymandias wrote:What I'm debating is whether or not I'm going to upgrade my 50+ painted Dark Eldar Warriors for the new plastics. I love new plastics, but I hate painting models... Hmmm...

I'd be totally down with new bikes and other support choices though!

Somewhere somebody did a conversion/kitbash of eldar and dark eldar helmets and what not to make really nifty DE warriors. I'm thinking its the guys that did the female cadians. Phoenix Club or something like that. Look at their forum, but it's a totally nifty way to make them that looks pretty sharp!

I'd much rather see 'arby' write the DE codex - this way we can see no change to units that suck (but have nifty new models) and crippling changes to units that once formed the core of a DE list ('arby' making sweeping changes to say....jetbikes)

(/sarcasm)

I want to see new stuff before I unbox my DE army.

Brimstone wrote:Can't say much more about them at the moment because I was asked not to and on this sort of stuff I keep my word.

And a fat lot of good it does me or anyone else.

Sorry, but that's no credible evidence at all.

Oh god JHDD. We all know Brimstone is 99% spot on with rumors. You doubting him now is just being obtuse.

So? Hearsay isn't evidence - it's just more of the same old tease that you guys are jumping all over. We had the very same stuff said 6 months ago, before they were "shelved" indefinitely.

Maybe they saw the stuff, maybe not. GW wasn't sure enough to actually show anything then, and still isn't sure enough now.

So maybe the DE are going to be "redone" again, for the third? (fourth?? fifth???) time.

This latest Phil Kelly / Jes Goodwin rumor has gone on for roughly a year now, and we *still* have nothing to show for it.

I'm calling BS until such time that Yak or Brim or GW has the balls to give a definitive release date with actual preview models and rules information.

And I'm calling BS on your reasoning and lack of faith.

I had some faith that I was going to get new DE up until the 3rd round of rumors early in 4th Edition.

At this point, I refuse to let GW get my hopes up for no good reason just on somebody's unconfirmed say-so.

After multiple disappointments with the SW codex coming out, and despite the recent rumors, I have a bit of JHDD's attitude as well - until I have a SW codex in my furry mits, I'm not not believing it.

But, I think GW is working on SWs and DE both.

SW were announced for September, so you're good.

2009 is
Q1 - Apoc wave (Stompa & Shadowsword)
Q2 - Imperial Guard
Q3 - Planetstrike,
Q4 - Space Wolves

SW were announced for September, so you're good.

That is hilarious. We have about as much credible evidence for SW in September as we do DE next year. 'Hearsay' as you call it, all around.

Only thing different is we now have a month instead of end of year.

BrookM wrote:And I'm calling BS on your reasoning and lack of faith.

Lack of faith? How much more faith could you possibly expect? It's been ELEVEN YEARS! Whole game systems have arisen and crashed down in the time since the last Dark Eldar model release. GW and FW have introduced several full armies since 1998, it seems pretty plausible that DE were an experiment that failed and which they do not have much of an interest to rebuild.

Agamemnon2 wrote:It seems pretty plausible that DE were an experiment that failed and which they do not have much of an interest to rebuild.

Except they have a full layout in the 5th Ed. Rulebook.

Granted.

They had one in the 4th ed book too, a fat lot of good that did them.

Yeah but the 5th ed one has different designs than what we're used to, showing progress.

Or perhaps, like GW often does, the current illustrator didn't bother looking at any of the previous artwork?

Quick - how many versions of Power Armor have appeared in GW's Rulebooks and Codices?

Right!

Agamemnon2 wrote:

BrookM wrote:And I'm calling BS on your reasoning and lack of faith.

Lack of faith? How much more faith could you possibly expect? It's been ELEVEN YEARS! Whole game systems have arisen and crashed down in the time since the last Dark Eldar model release. GW and FW have introduced several full armies since 1998, it seems pretty plausible that DE were an experiment that failed and which they do not have much of an interest to rebuild.

Considering that we have information from reliable sources that say the models are getting done, I would not consider DE canceled at all. They just needed a total rework.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Or perhaps, like GW often does, the current illustrator didn't bother looking at any of the previous artwork?

Quick - how many versions of Power Armor have appeared in GW's Rulebooks and Codices?

Right!

Ok, now you are being deliberately obtuse!

And trolling.

And being incredibly annoying.

Yo, Pot, there's a Kettle who wants to have a word with you...

Riiiight. Cause non-trolls always go to rumor threads and deny any rumor, even by credible sources who have seen things first hand.

I can understand the position of someone who is bitter about their codex being ignored in favour of whatever the designers think is THE AWESOME (what an AWFUL way to run a company, seriously).
Read my early posts about the ork codex on this board.
Dark Eldar should have been redone a long time ago, and Daemonhunters, Witch Hunters and Black Templars shouldn't exist.

If those "credible sources" had something to show, or GW followed up with something to confirm those sources, then there might be something to your point.

As it is, I'm far more inclined to believe that the DE rumor-mongers are the trolls here.

So go troll the SW thread a bit too. Cause those same 'trolling' rumor-mongers are the only source of info we have. Guys like Phil Kelly and Jes Goodwin, on top of Brim and the rest.

And I'd remind that Space Wolves have also suffered from incorrect rumors, like the one from 4ed that it was already written when the SM dex came out. That one kicked around for awhile. Doesn't mean SW were never getting fixed.

The difference being, of course, that SW are actually on schedule for a September release...

As in, 'no, we're not pulling your leg... They're finally getting fixed'?

winterman wrote:So go troll the SW thread a bit too.

feth No! Our SW thread has had more than enough DE Hate spewing as it is .

The difference being, of course, that SW are actually on schedule for a September release...

Hypocrite Troll is Hypocritical.

What schedule? What evidence outside of rumor mongers? What pics? I am not seeing any official GW release schedule for September, if there is then I'd love a link.

Now, I have seen some rumor mongers state September for SW -- same folks saying DE are in the pipeline along with folks from GW. Basically you aren't holding the SW rumors (or any rumors really) to the same stringency as you do DE. It is really kinda strange.

GW haven't strung SW along like DE.

And where are the rumored DE changes?

Apples & oranges, buddy.