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what happens when you become sooo good, win tournaments, beat everyone in the circuit there is to beat? become hated all over for being the best? there is causaul gaming making everything fun again. No one needs tournies to have fun one needs to try every aspect of the hobby to completely enjoy and understand the hobby. Playing is just one part.. what about master converters, painters, scenic designers, try doing some of that and you will forget about tournaments. Most tourny heavy goers have armies that could use alot of work aswelll lol

Champion_0f_Chaos wrote:one needs to try every aspect of the hobby to completely enjoy and understand the hobby.

Firstly, having read a few of your posts now, I have to say it:

Punctuation, sentence structure and spelling. Jesus...

Secondly, your statements are ironic, as you state that everyone should be trying everything, yet seem to attack Tournament Gamers at the same time. I agree that there are many aspects to the hobby, but certain people only derive enjoyment from a few of them. For instance, I derive no enjoyment from painting, but I love building terrain. Should I be yelled at for not liking painting? Or is the 'hate' only reserved for those horrible evil child-eating tournament players?

H.B.M.C. wrote:

pox wrote:Honestly, I think GW needs to do a tournament expansion.

They already have one. It's called 'Mein Kampf'. Have you heard of it?

Fething tournament gamers. *spits*

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dude ... kudos for slipping in the Hitler reference thus keeping internet traditions alive :-D

Where would this place be without me? ... well... probably exactly where it is now, but that's not the point!!!

Danny Internets wrote:

Ketara wrote:As a reasonably competitive player, I just meandered on over to the wrecking crew forums through deadshanes sig, thinking to espy a new trick or two, and see what all the fuss is about. This is the first thread I saw.

http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/331128-607-2413-0-just-smashed-bunch-idiots-over-dakka.htm

Lovely group of people. Here was me thinking shane was the oppressed underdog, and it turns out he rules dakka! Fancy that.

And they wonder why their club has such a bad reputation...

QFT

Just flipped into it. Yes, and they wonder why they have a bad reputation - I see several of them then also popped into this thread to offer support. Funny guys. I feel beat down!!

I think we ought to ban these types of threads. No-one seems to agree and I think to be honest the casual fluff players seem to be the least accomodating. We all have our own way of playing but what the heck is so difficult about respect each others way of playing and making simple accomodations when we interact. Is it so hard to shift your way of looking at a 40k for just one game. God, even Jervis says try a tournie for fun. Not all tournie players and power list players are dicks - 99% of them are quite reasonable but just play hard but expect the same from their opponent. So speaketh a casual gamer/ painter.

edit for crap spelling, grammar and additional thought

One is a regular dakka douche and another is a stelek lover

...so which one am I then, the douche or the Stelek lover? Since I'm the one that posted the first WC "hate" post in the thread and I read Stelek's blog on occasion (but I'm not a "lover" by any means), I'm a little confused.

I've probably already said this once, but I personally don't have anything at all against competitive gaming. I used to in the early days, but I like to think I've opened my mind a bit after being in the hobby for a while and I'm nowhere near as hostile as I used to be (competitive /= WAAC). I've been on Deadshane's side the whole time, I may have never played in a tournament before but I'm not stupid, I realize tournaments are a good thing for the hobby and I really don't want them to go away, either.

Also, I don't believe I've ever actually eaten a McRib. I don't know why but they just never looked all that tasty.

The demand is certainly there on this side of the pond. It would take an idiot not to make big bucks from a sellout gig like that.

Which is pretty interesting to know, since the UK in general is said to be the more "casual" bunch while us Americans are the more competitive ones.

btw is it too much to ask for a comprehensive list of FAQs?

Hell fething no it isn't. If nothing else I really wish GW would write better FAQs...

Makes sense in it being huge in the UK. Think of all of the gamers in america, then double it, and squeeze them into an area the size of Texas (generalization admittedly). Then see how fast you could sell out a tournament when very few people would have to fly. Imagine the only additional costs being hotel and beer. That would cut my expenses in half.

A big part of the reason that US GT's are harder to run by GW is the sheer distances involved. Just shipping all that terrain across the country isn't cheap. They also generally use very nice venues which isn't cheap either. I hope they at least keep a championship style event that you qualify for but at this point that is all I'm holding out for......Prove me wrong GW!

Deadshane1 wrote:
If it wasnt for national tournements....I would've been gone a long time ago, along with several people I know.

Maybe GW is holding out hope...

The bulk of tournaments, even mid level tournaments, aren't made up of hard core WAAC uber gamers, they're made up of regular gamers like myself that enjoy having a few games and playing with a tooled up army against other tooled up armies played by skilled opponents. The more tournaments there are, the more I get to play. The fewer tournaments there are, the less 40k I get to play.

That's what's forgotten here. Yes, many of us would like to see some sort of karmic punishment laid down on those we don't like, but let's not forget that the jerks aren't the only ones hurt (and that's not even addressing who is really a jerk here, because frankly most posters in this thread look like pretty bad).

Ketara wrote:As a reasonably competitive player, I just meandered on over to the wrecking crew forums through deadshanes sig, thinking to espy a new trick or two, and see what all the fuss is about. This is the first thread I saw.

http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/331128-607-2413-0-just-smashed-bunch-idiots-over-dakka.htm

Lovely group of people. Here was me thinking shane was the oppressed underdog, and it turns out he rules dakka! Fancy that.

Not a smart move. Now GBF is angry with you.

I'd love to see some larger tournaments, but there have been a lot of RTT's going on around here recently. Course, I suppose if you're too good to sully yourself by gracing a RTT with your presence...

He's a fly, what's the worst he could do?

I'll get you and your lil dawg if you don't get back on topic.

G

This thread is closed, for the good of the nation. Its sad as there are some good posts, cluttered by lots of epic nonsense.