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Deadshane1 wrote:

Bunker wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:

I think everyone with intelligence here knows what sort of RTT I'm talking about.

I don't. Would you mind filling in people such as myself who don't follow you?

There we go, fixed it for the smart apples.

I honestly think most of the aggressive posts here were perpetrated by the Tourney haterz....sort of in a "I told you so" context. Anything otherwise is the rest of us just trying to hold discussion. Maybe with a few snyde but well deserved mild retorts.

I'm simply pointing out that snide retorts such as the above quoted certainly don't elevate or maintain the discussion. I'm not being confrontational when posting this, I'm simply pointing out that even if you don't intend to be degrading...the nature of online conversations tend to amplify such remarks.

/Shrug I'm obviously not a Mod though, so if they are down with it...so am I

AgeOfEgos wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:

Bunker wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:

I think everyone with intelligence here knows what sort of RTT I'm talking about.

I don't. Would you mind filling in people such as myself who don't follow you?

There we go, fixed it for the smart apples.

I honestly think most of the aggressive posts here were perpetrated by the Tourney haterz....sort of in a "I told you so" context. Anything otherwise is the rest of us just trying to hold discussion. Maybe with a few snyde but well deserved mild retorts.

I'm simply pointing out that snide retorts such as the above quoted certainly don't elevate or maintain the discussion. I'm not being confrontational when posting this, I'm simply pointing out that even if you don't intend to be degrading...the nature of online conversations tend to amplify such remarks.

Yeah, that's Deadshane for ya though. He can put down whomever he pleases but when someone does it back it's instantly a personal attack and uncalled for.

Oddly enough insults through edits are one of the things that the MODs don't seem to have a problem with.

AgeOfEgos wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:

Bunker wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:

I think everyone with intelligence here knows what sort of RTT I'm talking about.

I don't. Would you mind filling in people such as myself who don't follow you?

There we go, fixed it for the smart apples.

I honestly think most of the aggressive posts here were perpetrated by the Tourney haterz....sort of in a "I told you so" context. Anything otherwise is the rest of us just trying to hold discussion. Maybe with a few snyde but well deserved mild retorts.

I'm simply pointing out that snide retorts such as the above quoted certainly don't elevate or maintain the discussion. I'm not being confrontational when posting this, I'm simply pointing out that even if you don't intend to be degrading...the nature of online conversations tend to amplify such remarks.

Read a couple of posts before hand...I didnt escalate anything at all. I certainly didnt defuse anything, but I didnt fire the first shot either.

....and Bunker, I KNOW you've been WAY more caustic than I ever have in the past.

Deadshane1 wrote:

AgeOfEgos wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:

Bunker wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:

I think everyone with intelligence here knows what sort of RTT I'm talking about.

I don't. Would you mind filling in people such as myself who don't follow you?

There we go, fixed it for the smart apples.

I honestly think most of the aggressive posts here were perpetrated by the Tourney haterz....sort of in a "I told you so" context. Anything otherwise is the rest of us just trying to hold discussion. Maybe with a few snyde but well deserved mild retorts.

I'm simply pointing out that snide retorts such as the above quoted certainly don't elevate or maintain the discussion. I'm not being confrontational when posting this, I'm simply pointing out that even if you don't intend to be degrading...the nature of online conversations tend to amplify such remarks.

Read a couple of posts before hand...I didnt escalate anything at all. I certainly didnt defuse anything, but I didnt fire the first shot either.

So it's okay for you to insult someone who wasn't even in the conversation when the perceived "escalation" happened?

Makes sense.


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Deadshane1 wrote:

....and Bunker, I KNOW you've been WAY more caustic than I ever have in the past.

Lol.

Just lol.

I know I'm not a tourney goer, but I have nothing against them. my roomie is a competition player as are many friends of mine, and this affects him.

Honestly, I think GW needs to do a tournament expansion. They could release it same as any other, with a book and support. This could have all the framework necessary to run tourneys, along with ancillary products to help the release. This doesn't seem to fit their current business model though.

All that being said, I was only addressing your comment that the state of the US tournament scene was both important to casual gamers and GW. This comment seemed to need the input from a casual gamer, like myself. I apologize if I seemed to be attacking anyone, but I'm really just trying to join the thread as it applies to me.

GW are still running tournaments over here and in the UK, so I bet they'll start the US scene again once their HQ is organised. If not, it sounds like ye have some decent indies to attend over there.

pox wrote:
Honestly, I think GW needs to do a tournament expansion. They could release it same as any other, with a book and support. This could have all the framework necessary to run tourneys, along with ancillary products to help the release.

That would be effin genius though. I think, given the internet and the international community that now exists, that GW organising regional, national and even international finals and having a fully inclusive world championship title would be a great PR move and raise recognition for the product, media interest etc.

An expansion would be a great way to do this, nice thinking. GW gets to sell something else and tourneys would be granted more recognition.

Due to a number of complaints received, I am locking this thread to allow moderators to check it in detail.

pox wrote:Honestly, I think GW needs to do a tournament expansion.

They already have one. It's called 'Mein Kampf'. Have you heard of it?

Fething tournament gamers. *spits*

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On a seperate note, are there even really enough missions to run a tournament effectively?

I would venture to say that there needs to be at least 4 more missions put out in order to have the variety needed to run a tournament successfully.

I think this is why a lot of tournaments nowadays run their own missions. Not only does it make the experience more varied and interesting for the players, but it makes sure that the players bring armies that are able to cope with more than just the missions in the BRB

I seem to recall reading somewhere that in the near future GW would be printing more missions in a series of White Dwarf articles. This might me a good jump-start for those thinking about holding their own tournaments. It couldn't hurt, right?

Aren't there more missions in the main rulebook? (The stupidly overpriced one I won't buy, not the AOBR one)

I think the game is mostly in a better state for tournaments than it has been for a while.
Would love FAQs that actually dealt with real issues (deffrolla, I'm looking at you), but that's up there with price cuts and GW admitting they were wrong ever.

The UK tournement scene has been mentioned a few times in the thread.

The tickets for the UKGT went on sale a couple of weeks ago and all 450 tickets sold out in about 3-4 days. Heat two (the one I wanted to go to) sold out in about two days. Thankfully my budies and I squeezed into the final few spots of heat three.

The demand is certainly there on this side of the pond. It would take an idiot not to make big bucks from a sellout gig like that.

As a reasonably competitive player, I just meandered on over to the wrecking crew forums through deadshanes sig, thinking to espy a new trick or two, and see what all the fuss is about. This is the first thread I saw.

http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/331128-607-2413-0-just-smashed-bunch-idiots-over-dakka.htm

Lovely group of people. Here was me thinking shane was the oppressed underdog, and it turns out he rules dakka! Fancy that.

Yargh! Thread contents aside, that yellow scheme, it burns! My poor retinas!

The Wrecking Crew are mythic heroes, the last true competative gamers left in a sea of mewling scum and dull witted casual gamers. If they fall, civilization's light will be extinguished, and all that will be left will be an eternity in gibbering darkness.

In Ireland, it's not uncommon for people to travel around to various cons. Although we're a tiny nation, hotel costs are at least comparable. Indie cons are as good as the crowd that attends them.

This thread hasn't been re-opened for too long and we're already back to where we were when it got locked in the first place?

It doesn't bode well...

I apologise. If you'd like I can edit my previous post to take out the irrelevant stuff.

If we can all stay on topic...

And, just keep in mind:

Alpharius wrote:And, just keep in mind:

Keep what in mind? You have a serious eye infection? What?

Ketara wrote:As a reasonably competitive player, I just meandered on over to the wrecking crew forums through deadshanes sig, thinking to espy a new trick or two, and see what all the fuss is about. This is the first thread I saw.

http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/331128-607-2413-0-just-smashed-bunch-idiots-over-dakka.htm

Lovely group of people. Here was me thinking shane was the oppressed underdog, and it turns out he rules dakka! Fancy that.

Sums it up nicely, IMO.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Alpharius wrote:And, just keep in mind:

Keep what in mind? You have a serious eye infection? What?

One does not simply post on Dakka! It is guarded by Mods who do not sleep. Not with a thousand posters could this be done.

GW has been known to create new missions for their GTs. Typically they are playtested by veteran circuit players.

G

I say to each his own when it comes for motivation for engaging into the hobby of 40k. But for those who like to impose their views on 40k: please dont, there is plenty of room to allow the casual gamer and the tournament gamer crowd to play in this game. Besides if there were no more GTs period, I think the tournament players would have to play on the casual game nights.

btw is it too much to ask for a comprehensive list of FAQs?

Ketard wrote:As a reasonably competitive player, I just meandered on over to the wrecking crew forums through deadshanes sig, thinking to espy a new trick or two, and see what all the fuss is about. This is the first thread I saw.

http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/331128-607-2413-0-just-smashed-bunch-idiots-over-dakka.htm

Lovely group of people. Here was me thinking shane was the oppressed underdog, and it turns out he rules dakka! Fancy that.

I am interested to learn if you did indeed espy a new trick or two. Shane was just blowing some hot air rather than venting here. Seems reasonable enough to me. We can always use more traffic our way.

G

I submit a (hopefully) true question. If the GT's are not at a loss - WHY would GW NOT want to support them. Why not have a gaming system that supports both tournaments and the casual gamer. They seem to have a market for both.

Kilkrazy wrote:

More important then the tournament scene....who is this?

KeithGatchalian wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

More important then the tournament scene....who is this?

that's Deadshane!

BTW - that's a joke - I like Shane....

Weren't RTs and GTs slowly fading as a result of the Outrider program going?

Ketara wrote:As a reasonably competitive player, I just meandered on over to the wrecking crew forums through deadshanes sig, thinking to espy a new trick or two, and see what all the fuss is about. This is the first thread I saw.

http://40kwreckingcrew.aceboard.com/331128-607-2413-0-just-smashed-bunch-idiots-over-dakka.htm

Lovely group of people. Here was me thinking shane was the oppressed underdog, and it turns out he rules dakka! Fancy that.

And they wonder why their club has such a bad reputation...

GW yanking tournament organising in Oz hasn't had a noticeable effect on our tourney scene.

We still manage good turnouts at our majors and regional events (bearing in mind our population densities are quite low in certain areas so the number of gamers is also quite low).

They were never cost-effective for GW here.