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Herohammernostalgia wrote:I almost believe the Dogs of War were GW's balance-fix at the time:
"Do your warmachines always get swarmed by harpies, eagles and other flying beasts?
Do those Bretonnians always smash trough your lines like they aren't even there?
Are you that Champion of Khorne who always get's shot to pieces by those Lizardmen, Dwarf and Empire missile troops?
Fret no more,
here are:
THE DOGS OF WAR!
With the Birdmen of Catrazza to counter any harpy or eagle,
The Alcatani Fellowship, cheap pikes to blunt any Bretonnian charge, and
The Marksmen of Miragliano and the Galloper Gun to let Chaos also experience the joy of the shooting phase.
If you have the coin
They Join!
Fill that hole in your battle-line with the hole in your hand
DOGS OF WAR Game balance for hire"
As a DoW player, I don't know whether to laugh or cry, or laugh then cry.
Herohammernostalgia wrote:I almost believe the Dogs of War were GW's balance-fix at the time:
"Do your warmachines always get swarmed by harpies, eagles and other flying beasts?
Do those Bretonnians always smash trough your lines like they aren't even there?
Are you that Champion of Khorne who always get's shot to pieces by those Lizardmen, Dwarf and Empire missile troops?
Fret no more,
here are:
THE DOGS OF WAR!
With the Birdmen of Catrazza to counter any harpy or eagle,
The Alcatani Fellowship, cheap pikes to blunt any Bretonnian charge, and
The Marksmen of Miragliano and the Galloper Gun to let Chaos also experience the joy of the shooting phase.
If you have the coin
They Join!
Fill that hole in your battle-line with the hole in your hand
DOGS OF WAR Game balance for hire"
As a DoW player, I don't know whether to laugh or cry, or laugh then cry.
I've found laughing and crying at the same time to be the right response.
Herohammernostalgia wrote:Oh yeah... How do things stand with the Tau Empire ATM?
Not to badly, IIRC.
The last time I stuck my head in the LA Bunker, it was practically wall-to-wall Tau. Literally more than half of the players there had Tau. Mind-blowing when you're expecting to see all-SMs.
Tons of Tau players in my area as well. I don't know how they are holding up now in overall sales, but the year after the current Tau were initially released I was told that they were the best selling non-Space Marine model range. While they've probably lost that title to Orks since then, Tau are still fairly popular.
Around here the 40K armies that seem to be short on new players at the moment are: - Necrons - Dark Eldar - Eldar
And for WHFB: - Ogre Kingdoms - Dwarves (in spite of being in the starter set)
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What I want from GW?
- Even more plastic special ujnits (Swordmasters, Sternguards, Phoenix Guards, Chosen, you get the drill)
- Give me the fething Strenght 5 back to my Kroxigors!
- And also give me the option (even a expensive one) to make my Skinks Scout!
Win/Draw/Lost statics
Space Orks: 11/1/1
Space Marines: 10/2/5
Lizardmen: 8/2/3
High Elves: 13/2/2 and one tournament victory!
Dark Eldar: 1/0/0
With the talk of endangered armies, just thought I would say...
Squats?? (Especially epic army)
Chaos Dwarves (originals)?? (yes not actually a full army)
Chaos Dwarves (silly hats)??
These I think did not deserve the treatment they received.
some early aspects like Zoats, Fimir etc were okay to fade out but large dedicated armies like the above I found was not fair to people who had invested hundreds of pounds/dollars into those armies.
I think a good thing to ask for is a commitment to continuing support of armies. If they want to stop producing new miniatures for an army due to low proffit forecasts then thats fine. But maintain access to existing miniatures through collectors mail-order and also codex/army-list updates when the rules edition changes (even if onlt a small downloadable pdf of updated lists).
So continued support for large-money-invested-armies (customer support if you like) rather than just ditching
I'd like to see some more reasonable prices, pink paint, a few new kits for each army (nob accessories kit please), and updated codexes and armies for factions that haven't been worked on recently. That's all.
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A real life Dataslate, or xenos/ chaos(MOAR SPIKEY) equivilent, like a pda warhammer style and have pdf versions of codexs/rules and army lists and stuff...
Sell pdf versions of codexs.
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They're like kidnapping someone, and forcefeeding them heroin until they're hooked.
I think one of the biggest problem is communication. It would be great if GW actually support the community like they claim to. If they had their own forums where their employees could post Q&A's on gaming and modeling, or show their current projects, even tease with what they're currently planning. That would be great!
GW had their own forums and shut them down. Part of it was cost cutting while another part of it I'm fairly certain had to do with dealing with the venom and inappropriate posts. The GW forums had a lot of youngsters on them and I don't think GW wanted to deal with the threat of liability over them being exposed to the inappropriate language and behavior that is sadly an inescapable part of forums talking about toy soldiers. They were constantly having to monitor the forums, hand out warnings, etc. and I think it was all more than they wanted to deal with and I can't say I blame them for that.
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Lets see, 3 things. 1. Growth, the games just keep going over the same old ground, a new race, or army would be a good thing. 2. Constructive imput about products from outside the GW circle. im tired of the by line 'were excited' no matter what it is their excited, even if its just one of Jervis's moles. 3. A fan support base, one where real opinion is welcome rather than the 'your so cool' thing they had a few years ago. The best would be if they left the independant sites alone, and stopped with all the IP crap.
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BrassScorpion wrote:GW had their own forums and shut them down. Part of it was cost cutting while another part of it I'm fairly certain had to do with dealing with the venom and inappropriate posts. The GW forums had a lot of youngsters on them and I don't think GW wanted to deal with the threat of liability over them being exposed to the inappropriate language and behavior that is sadly an inescapable part of forums talking about toy soldiers. They were constantly having to monitor the forums, hand out warnings, etc. and I think it was all more than they wanted to deal with and I can't say I blame them for that.
Weird, from their Investor Relations site they say; Our website is a must for anyone passionate about the Hobby. With a fan base aged 12 and upwards the web is an ideal place to buy everything needed for the Hobby or keep up to date on new releases, rules and events and get hobby tips from the experts. Games Workshop also moderates specialist forums giving gamers the chance to ask questions and discuss what sort of things they would like to see produced. This is current (2009), but I'm not aware of any current Specialist Forum.
I would love it if they paid more attention to their old school kits. The spread in the Space Hulk issue of WD featuring every edition of the game made me really happy. Also, having an article about an old kit in WD or the website every month would be really cool.
Selling old models again would also be pretty grand, but then my huge collection of old Marines wouldn't be quite so special anymore.
1) Plastic troops for all armies. Seriously, if it's supposed to be the bulk of your army, it should be plastic.
2) Plastic models for any unit selection that can number more than 10 models in any other FOC slot.
3) Plastic Daemon Prince kit.
4) Any model that has wings to be available in plastic, and the wings to be available.
5) Cheaper prices (hope springs eternal, but we all know there's nothing so permanent as a temporary price hike).
6) A new VDR system. I'd like to be able to design my own vehicles for my armies that are actually balanced against the rest of the stuff in the game. Of course, that would require that everything else be balanced as well.
7) A temporary pause on supplemental rules, like apocalypse and planetstrike. Use the extra time to focus on bringing everything else up to date and balanced out first, then give us new ways to play.
I'm in agreement with more plastic, particularly for the troops choices.
I don't even play them and I'd like to see DE and Necrons get a new codes/new sculpts.
Lower prices would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath on that. Lower prices are pretty much always nice. Perhaps a bulk-discounting scheme would be workable.
Its simple: overspecialize and you breed in weakness. It's slow death.
0: DARK ELDAR. Rename them, compile them with eldar. Whatever. Squats got resolution faster.
1: Follow through on the other guard regiments.
2: Special weapons (flamers, plasma, what have you) are not fething pokemon cards.
3: For that matter: if I can buy a squad I want all the options to be available in a squad box. This means I need a few flamers in a marine assault squad (see also #2!)
4: Models for all units. *ALL* not some, most, many, or a few.
5: A bit of respect for your customers. "everything you have been told is a lie" and "yeah, it really was space hulk" are contradictory.
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Pho indignation *IS* the tastiest form of angry!
1) Please GW forget that the 3.5 CSM codex ever existed.
2) Please see point #1
3) Plastic Horrors.
4) See point #1
5) Let me order $1,000 worth of new Tyranids in January just because.
--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
This is current (2009), but I'm not aware of any current Specialist Forum.
Because it's probably a lie to make themselves look better to the investors.
Female Imperial Guard.
Paging Doctor Thunder!
A temporary pause on supplemental rules, like apocalypse and planetstrike. Use the extra time to focus on bringing everything else up to date and balanced out first, then give us new ways to play.
I want this, too. And I want any new expansions they come up with in the future to also not be crap, Planetstrike was fail as far as I'm concerned (never once played a game or even really wanted to since its release), and I don't have enough money to play Apoc.
Whatever happened to that missions book for regular 40k, that actually sounded cool.
Desubot wrote: Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game."
Those make better plaguebearers though I guess they wouldn't be horrid painted all tzeentchy.
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“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”