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1hadhq wrote:
2 options for planetstrike, the witchhunters use sororitas or seraphim to raise your morale and lower that of your opponent.
The demonhunters may get and invul save 6+ and may stop demons from assaulting after deepstrike.

And thats it. Two (2) for the Ordos of the Inquisition in TOTAL. See a problem?

A-P wrote:

1hadhq wrote:
2 options for planetstrike, the witchhunters use sororitas or seraphim to raise your morale and lower that of your opponent.
The demonhunters may get and invul save 6+ and may stop demons from assaulting after deepstrike.

And thats it. Two (2) for the Ordos of the Inquisition in TOTAL. See a problem?

No. Both got 1....

I just deemed it interesting to look at the date of dec 09, which isn't so long ago.

Could be the DA treatment: want a codex?, here take this fortress....

1hadhq wrote:

A-P wrote:

1hadhq wrote:
2 options for planetstrike, the witchhunters use sororitas or seraphim to raise your morale and lower that of your opponent.
The demonhunters may get and invul save 6+ and may stop demons from assaulting after deepstrike.

And thats it. Two (2) for the Ordos of the Inquisition in TOTAL. See a problem?

No. Both got 1....

I just deemed it interesting to look at the date of dec 09, which isn't so long ago.

Could be the DA treatment: want a codex?, here take this fortress....

Almost every army got only 1 special rule in planet strike. But yea, it does remind me of the whole DA thing. So much pain.

A-P wrote:

1hadhq wrote:
2 options for planetstrike, the witchhunters use sororitas or seraphim to raise your morale and lower that of your opponent.
The demonhunters may get and invul save 6+ and may stop demons from assaulting after deepstrike.

And thats it. Two (2) for the Ordos of the Inquisition in TOTAL. See a problem?

4 actually.

There's two more in the Planetstrike book proper that are "Imperium Only".

And frankly, they're not for the Ordos of the Inquisition.
They're for the Chambers Militant. /fluffnitpickery.

Someone buys White Dwarf?

Technically, there is a Grey Knight formation for Apocalypse on the website. I seriously doubt anyone has ever actually fielded that abomination.

There's also a couple of Grey Knight formations in the third Siege of Vraks book.

oops

Elric of Grans wrote:Technically, there is a Grey Knight formation for Apocalypse on the website. I seriously doubt anyone has ever actually fielded that abomination.

I seriously doubt there's a single Apoc formation that hasn't been founded within a month of its release.

Somewhere, there's a GK player who's wanted to play all of his GKs at once in the group game, probably did so, and finally gave the GK formation a try. Not because it was good, but simply because he had the models and could do it.

You cannot deploy unless your opponent has a Greater Daemon on the table, and once it dies your opponent now uses the Grey Knights instead of you. If you wanted your opponent to field all your Grey Knights, maybe, but I doubt that fancy passed many people

As part of a scenario event, sure.

Elric of Grans wrote:You cannot deploy unless your opponent has a Greater Daemon on the table, and once it dies your opponent now uses the Grey Knights instead of you. If you wanted your opponent to field all your Grey Knights, maybe, but I doubt that fancy passed many people

It says once all the forces of chaos are defeated as in chaos space marines deamons lost and the dammed any possessed vehicles ect.
but if that is all your opponent has on the table there is no need to worry about it.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1180075_Space_Marines_Datasheet_-_Grey_Knights_Redeemer_Force.pdf

Edit to add link

We shouldn't have to buy White Dwarf issues to get some rules about an army that's been left out of a supplement.

Then again, the Inquisition isn't an "army" in the same sense as most armies so it would be kinda weird for them to have their own superheavies and stuff. They have Inquisitorial Stormtroopers so they probably have Inquisitorial Baneblades as well. >.>

Now for Planetstrike, there really isn't a whole lot of special stuff to use but they really could have included it. >.>

And for Cities of Death well...no army has anything specific for that? o_O

Brother SRM wrote:

fallen_wolfborn wrote:

Elric of Grans wrote:This was discussed in the `Codex After Blood Angels' thread a couple of weeks ago

He also told me that the blood angels box would not be released this year.

Even though GW themselves confirmed Blood Angels for April?

I dunno about that but I'm only going on what he told me.

At my local Gamesworkshop the Daemon Hunters and Sisters of Battle Codexes are not on the shelves and have not been restocked for a couple of months.

Which may mean something.

Or, of course, nothing.

Other than that they don't sell particularly well anymore, especially in your area?

I really do not get the fuss. I have had difficulty getting Sisters models for the last two years. Most of the range has been direct order for around three years now, so the one or two remaining items going to it really means a whole lot of nothing.

This is a really weird thread, and I don't know why it survived so long

1.) The German WH and DH Codices are OOP and gone from the GW store for 2-3 years, and guess what: no new WH or DH Codex release since then. Before the online-store merger, GW Germany actually offered free pdf-downloads of these Codices (just the rule ssection, not the hobby part though).

2.) No WH or DH mission in the Battle Mission book. But no Space Wolf, Black Templar, Dark Angels or Blood Angels mission either. Does that mean that Space Wolves, Black Templar, Dark Angels and Blood Angels are all discontinued and squatted? No. Just read the book section on "other armies".

Having to buy Sisters in blisters instead of boxes is not a big deal. Hey even the Exorcist is still available.
The rumours and wishlistings on a new Sororitas/Ecclesiarchy and Grey Knights Codex are covered elsewhere.

Not sure if this has been pointed out yet, but Battle Sisters are also missing from the 5th Ed Rulebook. Now the models are gone too? Probably not a good sign.

Actually, they are there. Apparently, based on the fluff section, half the Orders Majoris have disappeared without explanation(!). They also appear in the hobby section.

Kroothawk wrote:
Having to buy Sisters in blisters instead of boxes is not a big deal. Hey even the Exorcist is still available.
The rumours and wishlistings on a new Sororitas/Ecclesiarchy and Grey Knights Codex are covered elsewhere.

Buying them that way costs $1.38 more per model (U.S.) That's over $10.00 extra for a squad of ten. They are already more expensive than full squads of just about ever other army, so an extra 10 bucks certainly doesn't help. I don't know how much disposable income you have, but adding a 20% increase to my troops cost would hurt my budget. Not that I intend on playing them anyway...

In retrospect - the main (10-strong) squad is back on the website, so I guess it doesn't matter anyway. Must have been an internet burp.

20% more or less: Let's agree that a Sororitas army is not a low budget army currently (never was, like DKoK) and that a price increase is not an indicator for the squating of an army. BTW, still can't see the 10-box.

InquisitorBob wrote:We shouldn't have to buy White Dwarf issues to get some rules about an army that's been left out of a supplement....

It's been awhile but I'm assuming Chapter Approved went away long ago Those were the days, if they're gone. Nothing like lugging rulebook, codex, additional codex if you played a specialty army and one or more White Dwarfs so you could cross referenced any special scenarios/rules/errata.

10 pack Grey Knights missing from the UK site as well now

I've been told by a store manager to expect a stop-gap PDF codex for each army with a full new codex for each before the end of 5th edition.... not sure how true that is though.

FlightMek wrote:Buying them that way costs $1.38 more per model (U.S.)

Even with the box, you had to buy two blisters anyway. You needed to replace the Sister Superior with one equipped with a Boltgun, then replace the Storm Bolter with a Heavy Flamer, or both the Storm Bolter and the Flamer with two Meltaguns. You needed to buy 2-3 Blisters just to make a playable force out of the box. As such, many people never bought the box in the first place, preferring to just buy blisters.

I think that Gamesworkshop will re-do the Witch-hunters as plastic with a new codex because people seem to like the story behind them and the minis (My favorite are the Pentient engines) which would look awesome if they came out in plastic. If they re-done them I would possibly collect them.


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Yet again after reading the posts before these, there might be a chance that they are slowly trying to discard them but not all at once so we won't notice as much. I not sure, in my opinion it is too early to tell.

Kroothawk wrote:20% more or less: Let's agree that a Sororitas army is not a low budget army currently (never was, like DKoK) and that a price increase is not an indicator for the squating of an army. BTW, still can't see the 10-box.

I would agree 110% that it is not a cheap army to play. It certainly doesn't appeal to your new 40k player who is already intimidated by the price tag of the hobby. However, this isn't a "price increase" as much as it is -WAS- the dropping of the main box for the army. If Tac squad boxes disappeared from the Marines list I am sure there would be concern. I am surprised that you can't see it. It showed up for me again a few days ago. Weirdness.....

Maybe GW is pulling the box from certain IPs to get a reaction and gauge whether or not they should squat them..

Elric of Grans wrote:

FlightMek wrote:Buying them that way costs $1.38 more per model (U.S.)

Even with the box, you had to buy two blisters anyway. You needed to replace the Sister Superior with one equipped with a Boltgun, then replace the Storm Bolter with a Heavy Flamer, or both the Storm Bolter and the Flamer with two Meltaguns. You needed to buy 2-3 Blisters just to make a playable force out of the box. As such, many people never bought the box in the first place, preferring to just buy blisters.

I'll have to take your word for it. If 9/10 WH players agree, then I guess the loss of the squad box is not as big a deal as I originally thought. I just figured that a few of them with the addition of a few blisters and you were set for troops.

You are aware that WH didn't have that 10-box at their 3rd edition release and for most years of their existence (not to speak of their 2nd edition release). Was only a convenient repackaging as part of their blister to box policy. And yes, at that time, everyone had to fill his units with extra sisters (e.g. Heavy Bolter) best bought from bitz service to make all those different units (for Seraphim as well). Same with Inquisitor retinue, best filled with heavy weapon servitors.

BTW we all know that GW currently works on a new Codex, with plastic Sororitas, so spreading panic is of no use.

Grim.Badger wrote:I've been told by a store manager to expect a stop-gap PDF codex for each army with a full new codex for each before the end of 5th edition.... not sure how true that is though.

As said, was done by GW Germany on their website 2-3years ago, when the German Codices for DH and WH went OOP. Got deleted with the merger of all GW websites.

Kroothawk wrote:BTW we all know that GW currently works on a new Codex, with plastic Sororitas, so spreading panic is of no use.

Actually we don't all know that - which is the exact reason why I started the thread in the first place. Why make an accusation about "spreading panic?" I guess certain people are capable of such an immature act. Then again...there's a reason they call it "News & Rumors", isn't there?

Do you have anything substantial to back up the claim of a new codex and plastics, or should we just take your word for it?

This is a subforum for posting news and rumours, not for starting a thread just asking for news and rumours more than 1 year ahead of a possible release. We know that no current army will be squatted again, we know that all armies get plastic standards. Brimstone RIP and Harry even made some first hints, with at least Grey Knights plastic models already spotted. But with the current GW rumour policy, noone can give more substantial information now and get away with it.

Grim.Badger wrote:
I've been told by a store manager to expect a stop-gap PDF codex for each army with a full new codex for each before the end of 5th edition.... not sure how true that is though.

I don't see that happening. GW came out and said the PDF codex thing was a bad idea, and they got a lot of backlash from the Blood Angels codex. Then again, GW changes ideas and philosophies pretty often, so you never know. I still can't see them doing this again though.