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Red_Zeke wrote:

reds8n wrote:

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Armed with faith in Sigmar, their warrior god, and with tempered steel and black powder weapons they defend their lands. South and east of the Empire lies Bretonnia, a land of chivalry and noble tradition.

Geography fail?

Ooh, good spot Makes me wonder about the writers at GW these days... actually I was already wondering, but this intensfies my internal eye rolling

Kroothawk wrote:Here a translation of the Spanish newsletter part (translation provided by Hoarmurel on Warseer):

The re-printing process will be done in waves throughout a year, starting this next summer. The Warhammer Rulebook will be accompanied by the first wave of books, consisting of the Empire, Skaven, High Elves, Beastmen and Chaos Daemons army books. This new incarnation of Warhammer is so exciting you are going to be amazed with!!

The interesting part is the first batch of reprints, all unlikely candidates for a new army book soon (that included High Elves and Empire). O&G are not in the first batch

First: This next summer? Is that some bad grammar, or is GW going to be pushing some stuff until 2011?

Onto the main meat of this: I can't see Skaven being reprinted this quickly. I could see it in three years, maybe four, but one or two tops? I'm not buying it, unless they literally mean "Reprinted as it currently stands" which seems like a way just to milk those customers less wary of GW's business practices. Beastmen even moreso, as they were released less than seven months before the 8th Edition Rulebook. It has to be that some of them are just errata-including reprints, not actual reprints. Empire I can see as being an actual new book, maybe Chaos Daemons too, but that's it. Unless, of course, the reason some of those books need to be reprinted is they have some feature in the book that must be adjusted due to 8th Edition Changes (For instance, if 8th is going to percentiles, High Elves would need to be reprinted to adjust what happened with their extra special and rare choices as well as their lesser core choice requirements).

Flashman wrote:Ooh, good spot Makes me wonder about the writers at GW these days... actually I was already wondering, but this intensfies my internal eye rolling

If the Crimson Fists can suffer some 200 less casualties with their Fortress Monastary's destruction and multiple companies of Ultramarines were fighting on the surface during the Battle of Macragge, let alone Warhammer Online where pretty much every High Elf with a name was two days away from retirement, what's to say GW can't make Bretonnia across some mountains from where it once was?

I'm at once pleased and displeased to see O&G not on the list of updated armies. Pleased because I like what I have now (I have been playing O&G non-stop in WHFB since the Storm of Chaos Campaign and Warbands was (re?)released) and am afraid of what GW would do to the book, but also because there's really very little room for them to make my army any more reliant on the Dice gods' favor to reliably win (not draw, win) a game.

If GW reprints/updates 5 books with complete errata (ie no errors) upon the release of 8th edition I will run naked down the street.

Minsc wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Here a translation of the Spanish newsletter part (translation provided by Hoarmurel on Warseer):

The re-printing process will be done in waves throughout a year, starting this next summer. The Warhammer Rulebook will be accompanied by the first wave of books, consisting of the Empire, Skaven, High Elves, Beastmen and Chaos Daemons army books. This new incarnation of Warhammer is so exciting you are going to be amazed with!!

The interesting part is the first batch of reprints, all unlikely candidates for a new army book soon (that included High Elves and Empire). O&G are not in the first batch

First: This next summer? Is that some bad grammar, or is GW going to be pushing some stuff until 2011?

It's a homemade translation by a user, you don't need to call the grammar nazis.

We can believe it or not, but the Spanish newsletter says that the books are going to be reprinted. If the English version doesn't say anything, maybe this is going to happen only in Spain due to the measurement change. It sucks for the latest army books, but they also talk about free .pdf files so... In the lines that talk about the special changes for Spain, they remark the collaboration of the Studio for the updates. In fact, what they remark the biggest is the collaboration of the ENGLISH Studio. So I can see this reprints being only made for Spain and Spanish-talking countries.

Reprinting an army book doesn't mean publishing a new one. Just taking the one wich is done, changing the numbers for measures, and adapting some paragraphs of special rules to avoid rule conflicts with the new edition. This is just adding the .pdf information in the new prints. Like they did in the 2nd edition of Dark Eldar codex.

That's my guess.

Red_Zeke wrote:

reds8n wrote:

Armed with faith in Sigmar, their warrior god, and with tempered steel and black powder weapons they defend their lands. South and east of the Empire lies the ruins of Tilea, once a proud land of mercenaries and artisans, while to the west of the Empire lies Bretonnia, a land of chivalry and noble tradition.

Geography fail?

Fixed.

Trasvi wrote:If GW reprints/updates 5 books with complete errata (ie no errors) upon the release of 8th edition I will run naked down the street.

Just warn us before you do it, ok?

Flashman wrote:

reds8n wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6LPRV-cQSw&playnext_from=TL&videos=Kb0QU6I6Pow

Youtube agogo

Go on, who's going to be the first person say, "New dark elf ships? Amazing!" Joking aside, possible new minis spotted. Going to attempt a bit of frame pausage and see what's there...

EDIT - Nothing of interest that I could see. Did wonder about the Empire Knights charging out of the castle but think it's just a different paint scheme.

in that massive pan of the Empire castle, there is what appears to be a new Dragon model in front of the castle, you can see it at around 38 seconds.

Cyporiean wrote:

in that massive pan of the Empire castle, there is what appears to be a new Dragon model in front of the castle, you can see it at around 38 seconds.

Looks like Forgeworld's Dragon to me.

Yup, Forge World's Fire Dragon.

The updated army books will most likely be Spanish (and other translated rulebooks if their are any other in metric) only.

I have often wondered why WHFB and 40K still uses inches. Actually I quite like inches, as they seem a more "logical" scale for GW's wargames and as European, I have never used inches before I became a wargamer!).
I have come to the conclusion that it has to do with the scale of the miniatures. A lot of the miniatures are actually an inch or a little bit more in height*, whereas in metric a normal miniature is some 2.5 en 3 (cm) times the measurement (or 25 and 30mm).
Inches are mostly less practical than metric sizes, so most of the world switched to metric. The nostalgic (or backward to some - not my opinion) inches quite fit the medieval styled fantasy and SF worlds of wargaming I think.

*Althought the nominal scale GW's WHFB and 40K universes uses is 25mm, human sized miniatures (on which the scale is based) have grown over the years to 30mm, but their are on the battlefield, especially in WHFB you will find fewer human sized creatures than smaller creatures. Think of it: Goblins, Skaven, Skinks, Dwarfs etc far outnumber human sized creatures.

ah, well fair enough.

Here's the video (teaser) for the new edition.

Kroothawk wrote:
Another tidbit: Matt Ward seems to have written the rulebook.

*facepalm*

Once more I ask the heretic Matt Ward be burned alongside all his books

Yea man let's get ANGRY about BOOKS about GAMES

I think it will be empire vs chaos warriors in the boxed game as both sides have had new booksrecently

Stephen Bond wrote:I think it will be empire vs chaos warriors in the boxed game as both sides have had new booksrecently

Um, it's pretty much been confirmed that it's High Elves and Skaven.

The Rockethammer art however shows Empire vs WoC.

And here we go back to the mutiple starter box theory.... Seriously though, most, if not all, all the reliable sources have said it's High Elves and Skaven.

bhsman wrote:Yea man let's get ANGRY about BOOKS about GAMES

You do realize that without the above Dakka Dakka loses about 85% of it's content?

Just checking...

whats wrong with matt ward? Sm and BA books were pretty decent (Main problem with SM were the books that came AFTER them)

DoC; wrote by matt ward
BA: wrote by matt ward (not as bad as everyone thinks once you play against them though)
WotR: wrote by matt ward(I cant comment on this 1 as i dont play it)

Flashman wrote:No Orcs & Goblins was a great army book, it was the over powered nonsense that followed which resulted in said nerfing.

Skaven book went some way to reversing the overpowering trend IMO, so it will interesting to see where GW go with the next few books.

Oh, the way I've always heard them get complained about is that Matt Ward made the terrible by giving them needless drawbacks.

So we then can assume that Matt Ward made them terrible simply by writing DoC?


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Blackadder wrote:The updated army books will most likely be Spanish (and other translated rulebooks if their are any other in metric) only.

I have often wondered why WHFB and 40K still uses inches. Actually I quite like inches, as they seem a more "logical" scale for GW's wargames and as European, I have never used inches before I became a wargamer!).
I have come to the conclusion that it has to do with the scale of the miniatures. A lot of the miniatures are actually an inch or a little bit more in height*, whereas in metric a normal miniature is some 2.5 en 3 (cm) times the measurement (or 25 and 30mm).
Inches are mostly less practical than metric sizes, so most of the world switched to metric. The nostalgic (or backward to some - not my opinion) inches quite fit the medieval styled fantasy and SF worlds of wargaming I think.

*Althought the nominal scale GW's WHFB and 40K universes uses is 25mm, human sized miniatures (on which the scale is based) have grown over the years to 30mm, but their are on the battlefield, especially in WHFB you will find fewer human sized creatures than smaller creatures. Think of it: Goblins, Skaven, Skinks, Dwarfs etc far outnumber human sized creatures.

It kind of bugs me that base sizes are in metric but the game is played using Imperial. Even as an American, I think the whole game should be metric - along with pretty much everyone else.

Sadly there are too many idiots over here that somehow think Imperial is simpler than metric.

CT GAMER wrote:

bhsman wrote:Yea man let's get ANGRY about BOOKS about GAMES

You do realize that without the above Dakka Dakka loses about 85% of it's content?

Just checking...

By all means, let's perpetuate tired misconceptions.

I'd wager that the 'angry' segment is closer to 15% than 85%.

And yes, all signs point towards Skaven and High Elves, regardless of the what the new cover art shows.

I'd be more than OK with a surprise and/or multiple starters though!

Everything I'm hearing about this new edition is making me mad! Grrrrr!!! It feels like only yesterday that the last edition was released. I feel like doing an Axel Rose and crashing my car into the bins outside GW HQ!!!

Bloodthirster wrote:And here we go back to the mutiple starter box theory.... Seriously though, most, if not all, all the reliable sources have said it's High Elves and Skaven.

Oh well, I'm not trying to imply anything. When the other fellow dakkaite said about Empire and WoC I thought that usually the art in the rulebook or the box shows a battle between the races included in the starter box. But in fact, no one said that the Rockethammer pic is going to be the cover of the rulebook nor the art in the box. No way I'm a reliable source for GW news.

I agree that HE and Skaven is the option that I've read the most.

Sorry for the double post but I've got to keep ranting!!! I'm so fed up about people whining about this that and everything else that is supposedly wrong with 7th edition. Daemons are to powerful they cry. well if that's the case, how come I've been blasting them to hell with my supposedly weaker Empire and Orc forces. People talk about Ogres being as useful as a candle in the wind, but I've played them 14 times with various armies, and I've never beaten them yet! We've forgotten the ancient arts that make us men: cunning, the ability to trick women, the will to win, the ability to tell the difference between E Major and E Minor, and the warrior instinct encoded on our DNA. Instead of lamenting supposed power creep, we need to re-discover these ancient skills that will win us games!

Here an email by a local Australian GW rep, posted by zetaplus over at Warseer. Not sure if the number of pages is a typo by the rep, though, at least the book is full-colour

"At French Games Day on Sunday 18th April we announced that July 2010 will see the long-awaited release of Warhammer. There have been 7 previous editions of this iconic game system, all leading to the moment when we will release the most complete and awe-inspiring version ever. Warhammer, The Game of Fantasy Battles, will launch on July 10th 2010. In a hardback, full-colour, 528-page rulebook we will present to the world the most inspirational, epic, bloody and challenging vision of Warhammer – its land, people and battles – ever seen.

Between now and the 10th of July, Games Workshop embarks on a crusade to make this the greatest and most glorious launch period in our history. Everyone, everywhere, has their part to play in the days ahead. A World of Chaos. A Time of Heroes. An Age of War. Let battle commence."

The "greatest and most glorious launch period" just started with a no content newsletter (with Bretonnia East of the Empire and every player having his army shelved and full of dust) and a no-content video made of 5 static pics.

528 pages LOL, everything is bigger in this edition xDD

This does make me want to crack on with my Skaven, maybe shan't bother with the slaves though. Poxy worthless (in terms of points, not game value) creatures.

I am enraged at the idiocy of several posts.

Why are we saying that this re-print is with an errata and such? This is strictly related to the spanish books with spain and such, it was even said in that specific context.

The re-print is for spanish users not getting fethed over with the change.