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Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I have much more... interesting things to hide than playing with toy soldiers. I think that it's more an issue of people not having social skills than the hobby itself.

Judging from the stuff you're willing to share freely about yourself, I must imagine that the things you feel necessary to hide are Mythos levels of disturbing.


I don't hide painting my stuff. I joke about it self-depricatingly. Actually just took a lady friend up to see the nerd-room for the first time the other day, and she was indifferent toward it, mentioning that it reminded her of the historical WW2 stuff she used to do with her dad, which I was previously unaware of.

See? The mandollies open doors. They will only shut the door for you if you let them. Treat them like a stigma and they will become one. Treat them like a sign saying "I have disposable income," and it's a different story altogether.

NoArmorSave wrote:[

Dude - you have the wrong attitude. It really is amazing just how cool Warhammer 40,000 is. I mean, it is freaking awesome. You should never be ashamed of playing one of the most awesome,
engaging hobbies out there.

Not everyone that plays it is what you would call a "geek". I am a cool, normal person that plays it. Let's see:

1 - I drive a Mercedes
2 - I wear Oakley sunglasses and clothing
3 - I hold 3 different blackbelts in martial arts, and used to compete in MMA events
4 - I used to Wakeboard a lot
5 - I used to play professional level Paintball
6 - I own an Old English Bulldog
7 - I used to be a bartender, with a large clientele
8 - I have no problem with the opposite sex
9 - I believe I can get anyone excited about battling it out on the tables of the 41st millenium.

Am I still an anti-social geek?

]

Strictly tongue in cheek.


1 - I drive a Mercedes -Small Penis?
2 - I wear Oakley sunglasses and clothing - Brave man admitting to this.
3 - I hold 3 different blackbelts in martial arts, and used to compete in MMA events - Who do you hold the Black Belts for?
4 - I used to Wakeboard a lot - Well its not really advisable to do any kind of Boarding while Sleeping.
5 - I used to play professional level Paintball - Scared to Play with a real gun were we?
6 - I own an Old English Bulldog - its English, enough said.
7 - I used to be a bartender, with a large clientele - Just as well your Clientele was large (see question 1)
8 - I have no problem with the opposite sex - Ah yes but do they have a problem with you?
9 - I believe I can get anyone excited about battling it out on the tables of the 41st millenium - Yes Your Honor, i swear he got excited by me talking about wars in the 41st Millenium.

All in good humour. Thanks for being a good sport.

ShumaGorath wrote:

The question is, why do some of us feel this way? Why do we deny what we obviously enjoy doing? Is it because deep down inside we realise on some level that we are doing is "wrong"......oh I'm not talking kiddy fiddler "wrong", but maybe "sitting in your basement watching porn" wrong?

I hide it because the playerbase is shameful. I don't want to be directly linked to it outside of the hobby itself. I don't want that connection harming my other pursuits.

"the playerbase is shameful."

Not everyone that plays it is shameful dude. There are some very cool, social people that play the game.

I'm ashamed of my hobby because I spent all this money on a Chaos army...and then the 4th ed codex came out. Then, I spent several years trying to tell myself it wasn't all bad, playing different versions of the list and such, and then the new FAQ came out...

:(

NoArmorSave wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

The question is, why do some of us feel this way? Why do we deny what we obviously enjoy doing? Is it because deep down inside we realise on some level that we are doing is "wrong"......oh I'm not talking kiddy fiddler "wrong", but maybe "sitting in your basement watching porn" wrong?

I hide it because the playerbase is shameful. I don't want to be directly linked to it outside of the hobby itself. I don't want that connection harming my other pursuits.

"the playerbase is shameful."

Not everyone that plays it is shameful dude. There are some very cool, social people that play the game.

And those are the ones I will socialize with in more then a cursory fashion. I've been in this hobby long enough to know that that's not the majority, and often times those people will themselves hide their connection to these games (though not as much as I would like).

I publically express my love for My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

That should give you a rough idea of how little of a toss I give with regards to geeky/ weird/ non-manly things.

whitedragon wrote:I'm ashamed of my hobby because I spent all this money on a Chaos army...and then the 4th ed codex came out. Then, I spent several years trying to tell myself it wasn't all bad, playing different versions of the list and such, and then the new FAQ came out...

:(

So you bought an overpowered army, used lash when it was overpowered in fourth, and now that the codex is long in the tooth and an almost negligible FAQ comes out after lash had already been severely hampered by the mech meta for years you're suddenly ashamed. You missed the shame boat by years on that one.

whitedragon wrote:I'm ashamed of my hobby because I spent all this money on a Chaos army...and then the 4th ed codex came out. Then, I spent several years trying to tell myself it wasn't all bad, playing different versions of the list and such, and then the new FAQ came out...

:(

Heh.

- "Hey man, you want to play some 40k?"

- "Yeah, sure, why not. Hey what's in that shoebox?"

- "Uh, nothing! It's nothing. Gimme!"

- "Is that a Defilier? You play Chaos Marines!?"

- "Sniff... Don't look at me! Stop judging me! Get out!"


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ShumaGorath wrote:
I've been in this hobby long enough to know that that's not the majority, and often times those people will themselves hide their connection to these games (though not as much as I would like).

Your disdain for the fact that they don't repress things they enjoy is kind of depressing. You must be quite popular at your local coffee shop reading that obscure secondhand novel.

what gets me is when Im just casually chatin bout it with my other 40k friends and they start speaking VERY LOUDLY ABOUT THE HOBBY AND WHY IT IS GOOD and every one starts snickering at us.

they never learn, my friends...

Eh, I think that, like most things geeky, it only comes off as really super Geeky to others if you try really hard to get them to see how 'cool' it really is by explaining it a bunch and leaping at every chance you get to mention it.

I someone asks you about your toy soldiers, I've found they're far less likely to ridicule you if you shrug your shoulders and agree "Yup, toy soldiers." without trying to convince them of the hobby's validity.

40k talk bores plenty of people, just like plenty of people are bored by talking about sports or cars or reality TV.

kshaw2000 wrote:what gets me is when Im just casually chatin bout it with my other 40k friends and they start speaking VERY LOUDLY ABOUT THE HOBBY AND WHY IT IS GOOD and every one starts snickering at us.

they never learn, my friends...

Hahahahah i can relate to that one. After our usual game day at the FLGS we head on down to one of the pubs nearby for some drinks.....well 9/10 times of course the whole time we talk about how the games went and other assorted 40k lunacy.....the looks we get.....people avoid our table like the plauge and assume were some kind of satanic club with all our mention to chaos, demons, slaughter etc.... We are all loud people to begin with but a couple drinks in and we are shouting about how " The commisar that battled one on one with the blood thirster and lived 3 turns" or " the large blast that killed the whole squad of MEQs"...etc basically everyone in the pub thinks were talking in tongues..... needless to say i DO NOT go to those pubs when im on the hunt for ladies, in fact, i tend to go to a whole different town just in case

I literally start conversations about wargaming.

I am profusely proud of who I am and what I do, and I take great pride in my modeling and gaming enjoyment.

so having said that I have to share this story.

when I was a red Shirt, we had a kid come in, visibly shaking, asking to return a blister he had purchased, a pot of paint and a brush. behind him we saw a group of his "friends" teasing him relentlessly, and throwing insults at me and my fellow co-workers.

now, we're used to having insults thrown at us, and i'm a big guy literally, so it didn't phase me. but this poor kid was on the verge of tears.

its about the most depressing moment I had there. felt really bad for the kid. even went against store policy for returns and gave him a refund.

moral of the story, be proud of who you are what what you do folks, it IS what defines you!

Panzerboy26 wrote:Eh, I think that, like most things geeky, it only comes off as really super Geeky to others if you try really hard to get them to see how 'cool' it really is by explaining it a bunch and leaping at every chance you get to mention it.

I someone asks you about your toy soldiers, I've found they're far less likely to ridicule you if you shrug your shoulders and agree "Yup, toy soldiers." without trying to convince them of the hobby's validity.

40k talk bores plenty of people, just like plenty of people are bored by talking about sports or cars or reality TV.

Gotta agree with this x100. I'm proud of my wargaming, and when some one gives me crap about it, I'll admit i get more defensive than I likely need to be (cause I can get away with it), but this is, by and large, the best attitude to have.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I have much more... interesting things to hide than playing with toy soldiers. I think that it's more an issue of people not having social skills than the hobby itself.

I'd be perfectly willing to pit your dark secrets up against the crap I admit to loudly in public

CorvidMP wrote:

Panzerboy26 wrote:Eh, I think that, like most things geeky, it only comes off as really super Geeky to others if you try really hard to get them to see how 'cool' it really is by explaining it a bunch and leaping at every chance you get to mention it.

I someone asks you about your toy soldiers, I've found they're far less likely to ridicule you if you shrug your shoulders and agree "Yup, toy soldiers." without trying to convince them of the hobby's validity.

40k talk bores plenty of people, just like plenty of people are bored by talking about sports or cars or reality TV.

Gotta agree with this x100. I'm proud of my wargaming, and when some one gives me crap about it, I'll admit i get more defensive than I likely need to be (cause I can get away with it), but this is, by and large, the best attitude to have.

well c'mon, lets be real here, they ARE in fact toy soldiers. that doesn't take away from anything as far as I am concerned.

To be honest, I do feel a bit odd. Before I started college last semester, I only did minimal amounts of D&D and liked to Role Play with good old pen and paper. Now I am building an army and actually painting miniatures? Not to mention all the other geeky/nerdy stuff I have been getting into as of late. To add to this, I seem to be the only girl in my group who is not just sticking to MTG, video games, and Anime. To be honest, I know the guys in the group love it but I feel this is just one more thing that makes me feel like my fellow women are foreign to me.

Other than that, I am rather proud of my new hobby. I am creating instead of staring at a TV with a 360 controller in my hands. I still do that on occasion (I can't wait to get Mass Effect 3), but I feel more productive and relaxed.

MythicalGerEllie wrote:To be honest, I do feel a bit odd. Before I started college last semester, I only did minimal amounts of D&D and liked to Role Play with good old pen and paper. Now I am building an army and actually painting miniatures? Not to mention all the other geeky/nerdy stuff I have been getting into as of late. To add to this, I seem to be the only girl in my group who is not just sticking to MTG, video games, and Anime. To be honest, I know the guys in the group love it but I feel this is just one more thing that makes me feel like my fellow women are foreign to me.

Other than that, I am rather proud of my new hobby. I am creating instead of staring at a TV with a 360 controller in my hands. I still do that on occasion (I can't wait to get Mass Effect 3), but I feel more productive and relaxed.

you are most definitely in the minority that is for certain.

CorvidMP wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I have much more... interesting things to hide than playing with toy soldiers. I think that it's more an issue of people not having social skills than the hobby itself.

I'd be perfectly willing to pit your dark secrets up against the crap I admit to loudly in public

Do I smell a challenge? You know not what you say

daedalus wrote:

Heh.

- "Hey man, you want to play some 40k?"

- "Yeah, sure, why not. Hey what's in that shoebox?"

- "Uh, nothing! It's nothing. Gimme!"

- "Is that a Defilier? You play Chaos Marines!?"

- "Sniff... Don't look at me! Stop judging me! Get out!"

It's so true!!! *cries*

Rimmy wrote:

MythicalGerEllie wrote:
To be honest, I do feel a bit odd. Before I started college last semester, I only did minimal amounts of D&D and liked to Role Play with good old pen and paper. Now I am building an army and actually painting miniatures? Not to mention all the other geeky/nerdy stuff I have been getting into as of late. To add to this, I seem to be the only girl in my group who is not just sticking to MTG, video games, and Anime. To be honest, I know the guys in the group love it but I feel this is just one more thing that makes me feel like my fellow women are foreign to me.

Other than that, I am rather proud of my new hobby. I am creating instead of staring at a TV with a 360 controller in my hands. I still do that on occasion (I can't wait to get Mass Effect 3), but I feel more productive and relaxed.

you are most definitely in the minority that is for certain.

Yay for being the minority of a minority!

Rimmy wrote:
I literally start conversations about wargaming.

I am profusely proud of who I am and what I do, and I take great pride in my modeling and gaming enjoyment.

so having said that I have to share this story.

when I was a red Shirt, we had a kid come in, visibly shaking, asking to return a blister he had purchased, a pot of paint and a brush. behind him we saw a group of his "friends" teasing him relentlessly, and throwing insults at me and my fellow co-workers.

now, we're used to having insults thrown at us, and i'm a big guy literally, so it didn't phase me. but this poor kid was on the verge of tears.

its about the most depressing moment I had there. felt really bad for the kid. even went against store policy for returns and gave him a refund.

moral of the story, be proud of who you are what what you do folks, it IS what defines you!

I admire your enthusiasm for what you do. I hope to get to this level of comfort in due time.

Ok I'm not ashamed of my gaming, but I recognize that non-gamers are not interested so I don't bring it up. Also I recognize it is kind of dorky this doesn't upset me because I know I have enough going for me that I can admit I like to play with a bunch of "robots" as my wie calls them. When asked to explain it I say it's a strategy game that also lets me be a bit creative which I like.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

CorvidMP wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I have much more... interesting things to hide than playing with toy soldiers. I think that it's more an issue of people not having social skills than the hobby itself.

I'd be perfectly willing to pit your dark secrets up against the crap I admit to loudly in public

Do I smell a challenge? You know not what you say

I believe at this point the forum would begin to melt or at least implode...

Albatross wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

The question is, why do some of us feel this way? Why do we deny what we obviously enjoy doing? Is it because deep down inside we realise on some level that we are doing is "wrong"......oh I'm not talking kiddy fiddler "wrong", but maybe "sitting in your basement watching porn" wrong?

I hide it because the playerbase is shameful. I don't want to be directly linked to it outside of the hobby itself. I don't want that connection harming my other pursuits.

Yep, same here. The wargamer stereotypes are incredibly off-putting. I firmly believe that there's an underground movement of secret wargamers that keep their identity firmly under wraps by not spending more than 10 mins in a GW at any one time. I've met some of them - they're just like normal blokes you'd see down the football. Our very own notprop and mattyrm (and, dare I say it, yours truly) are good examples of this type of gamer.

Woohoo! Is it sad that being name checked as normal has made my day and it's not even 9am!

Sorry Alb I think you might be "out", it's the way you skip about swinging your manbag (army case).

[with added masculine piss taking to prove normalality!]

I do sort of disagree with the main point made by Shuma, most of the gamers I have met (read Dakkanauts) are perfectly normal run of the mill fellers., but the is definitely a minority whom congregate at FLGs that can sour the image a little.

I did get an extra discount at Wayland once after chatting at length about local sport with one of the bosses, in not often we get your sort type way. Both cool and the opposite of what I was saying really.

All of my good friends are either in the 40k hobby, or aren't any more. So really, I have no shame talking about it. And if somebody makes fun of it, I have 9 other friends to back me up.

I agree with many other people above, that the only thing to be ashamed of is the price.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

CorvidMP wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I have much more... interesting things to hide than playing with toy soldiers. I think that it's more an issue of people not having social skills than the hobby itself.

I'd be perfectly willing to pit your dark secrets up against the crap I admit to loudly in public

Do I smell a challenge? You know not what you say

No one cares about either of your dirty laundry or social taboos.

Am I the only one amused by someone who constantly picks fights with strangers on the internet bragging about how cool and normal they are?

Monster Rain wrote:Am I the only one amused by someone who constantly picks fights with strangers on the internet bragging about how cool and normal they are?

ha some people are fighting over being cool and normal and others are fighting over whos more depraved and weird.... wargamers seldom agree.

Monster Rain wrote:Am I the only one amused by someone who constantly picks fights with strangers on the internet bragging about how cool and normal they are?

I hide this gak.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:Am I the only one amused by someone who constantly picks fights with strangers on the internet bragging about how cool and normal they are?

I hide this gak.

Hide that your amused, that you constantly pick fights with strangers on the internet, or that you brag about how cool and normal you are?

I'm not so much ashamed of my wargaming hobby. I have a big glass display cabinet full of minis right as you walk in the front door of my apartment. It's full of the miniatures I'm most proud of painting / owning (Bonnie Anderson from Necromunda, anyone?).

My secret hobby is collecting anime figures- in particular Asuka Langley Soryu from Neon Genesis Evangelion. I've got a rather large collection of figures of her, and they stay tucked away in my bedroom. If you're ashamed of how much you drop on GW stuff, take a look at how much a good PVC figure or fully painted resin model costs. GW is a bargain by comparison.

Etna's Vassal wrote:I'm not so much ashamed of my wargaming hobby. I have a big glass display cabinet full of minis right as you walk in the front door of my apartment. It's full of the miniatures I'm most proud of painting / owning (Bonnie Anderson from Necromunda, anyone?).

My secret hobby is collecting anime figures- in particular Asuka Langley Soryu from Neon Genesis Evangelion. I've got a rather large collection of figures of her, and they stay tucked away in my bedroom. If you're ashamed of how much you drop on GW stuff, take a look at how much a good PVC figure or fully painted resin model costs. GW is a bargain by comparison.

You sir are an inspiration! i purchased a display cabinet but havnt had the kahones to set it up and open the door to conversation about it....(see earlier posts).....one day im going to say "feth it" and set it up.
P.S i also enjoy Neon Genesis Evangelion