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Evilledz wrote:Some parents aren't much better either, also shouting and/or swearing at teachers for something 99% of the time is not the teacher's fault. However a friend of mine got told by a teacher when they were six that one of their parents could not be her real parent as her parents aren't married. Of course there are some things that teachers shouldn't be allowed to do, but most of the things that teachers are blamed for aren't there fault. However what happened in the video is most certainly the teacher's fault.

Lol, bad children, bad parents?

Consider me surprised.

And yes, I don't blame any of what down in that video on the parents or the students.

generalgrog wrote:

Mr Hyena wrote:

The 'teachers' in this have obviously lost their interest in actually teaching.

It isn't surprising when teachers get paid absolute gak.

Not true..in all cases. Some teachers make 6 figures.

GG

Where are they at? I would like to put in for a transfer! I started out at $26,500 and I believe I can cap out around $50,000 with a Phd.

You all want to some something crazy? I have been teaching a class of six students who have autism for 5 years now. I could not even watch that video in the OP because I am so sick of the whiny parents I see everyday. In my area I am one of like 3 people (out of 10 positions for self contained Autism classrooms in my county) that has stayed in their special needs teacher position. Most of the time these positions have substitutes in them for years at a time or a certified general education teacher working on a permit until they can get a general education class.

Not all of my parents are like this, but I have met quite a few who are itching to find something wrong with the school system.


Any ways I do not want to leave you all with a bunch of negatives comments. I did get some good news today. My grant that will allow me to purchase Ipads for my classroom was approved today!

Lord Scythican wrote:

generalgrog wrote:

Mr Hyena wrote:

The 'teachers' in this have obviously lost their interest in actually teaching.

It isn't surprising when teachers get paid absolute gak.

Not true..in all cases. Some teachers make 6 figures.

GG

Where are they at? I would like to put in for a transfer! I started out at $26,500 and I believe I can cap out around $50,000 with a Phd.

You all want to some something crazy? I have been teaching a class of six students who have autism for 5 years now. I could not even watch that video in the OP because I am so sick of the whiny parents I see everyday. In my area I am one of like 3 people (out of 10 positions for self contained Autism classrooms in my county) that has stayed in their special needs teacher position. Most of the time these positions have substitutes in them for years at a time or a certified general education teacher working on a permit until they can get a general education class.

Not all of my parents are like this, but I have met quite a few who are itching to find something wrong with the school system.


Any ways I do not want to leave you all with a bunch of negatives comments. I did get some good news today. My grant that will allow me to purchase Ipads for my classroom was approved today!

In Illinois there are teachers who make 6 figures because they work overtime
in their final years leading up to retirement AND they work in a public school in
wealthier districts of the state.

(New Trier, Rahm Emanuel's alma mater, for example)

My friend quit Chicago Public and went to teach at the Latin School of
Chicago. She took a 10k pay cut but in return she gets almost 0 discipline
problems.

I'm okay with what I make, but only because of where I work. It's not the
best place in the city, but it's a vast cry from the worst. There are people who
teach at the worst schools and have success. They are paid the same as me. If
I were them, I'd be frustrated with that level of pay for what they are tasked to
do.

I hate unprofessional teachers/educational workers. Often it seems like one must demonstrably hate children before you can be hired as a school bus driver.

At the same time, I also hate helicopter parents. I'm in a bit of a dilemma.

Firing the aide was the right move.

Monster Rain wrote:I hate unprofessional teachers/educational workers.

I hate unprofessional fething EVERYTHING! I feel a rant coming on....



Maybe the RM fethed my priorities up since I took the Queens shilling, but I do my job to the very best of my ability, and that would be the case if I worked in Macdonalds or swept streets. I wouldnt go on the sick, I wouldnt be late for work, I wouldn't turn up hungover or stoned and I would be dressed correctly. You get all that done and your 90% of the way there.

At the end of the day a job works both ways, they give you money and vacation time and your part of the bargain is you do your fething job properly. Seriously, mother fethers walking around Macdonalds with their thumbs up their asses piss me off as well, If I worked in there I would be all over that gak. If you dont want to do the job properly you should feth off and do something else. Lack of professionalism disgusts me, I dont care if you work as a spunk mopper in a Dutch porno theatre.

The staggering ineptitude of pretty much half of the world is what made me utterly confident I could leave the military and find gainful employment, and funny thing it took me less than a week. Ive since had 3 other offers, and an extra job I turned down because 1 job pays enough, which I didnt even ask for, they saw my CV, spoke to my manager and then phoned me.

Its why ive got not time for fethers like my missus brother or her best mate. If you regularly complain about "bad luck", say things are "unfair" or you "tried your best" and "nobody cares"

Its not any of that, its because your a pathetic self entitled fething loser. Get a grip and sort your life out.

As John Patrick Mason SAS says, .. well. Ive sigged it.

mattyrm wrote:Brilliance.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

mattyrm wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:I hate unprofessional teachers/educational workers.

I hate unprofessional fething EVERYTHING! I feel a rant coming on....



Maybe the RM fethed my priorities up since I took the Queens shilling, but I do my job to the very best of my ability, and that would be the case if I worked in Macdonalds or swept streets. I wouldnt go on the sick, I wouldnt be late for work, I wouldn't turn up hungover or stoned and I would be dressed correctly. You get all that done and your 90% of the way there.

At the end of the day a job works both ways, they give you money and vacation time and your part of the bargain is you do your fething job properly. Seriously, mother fethers walking around Macdonalds with their thumbs up their asses piss me off as well, If I worked in there I would be all over that gak. If you dont want to do the job properly you should feth off and do something else. Lack of professionalism disgusts me, I dont care if you work as a spunk mopper in a Dutch porno theatre.

The staggering ineptitude of pretty much half of the world is what made me utterly confident I could leave the military and find gainful employment, and funny thing it took me less than a week. Ive since had 3 other offers, and an extra job I turned down because 1 job pays enough, which I didnt even ask for, they saw my CV, spoke to my manager and then phoned me.

Its why ive got not time for fethers like my missus brother or her best mate. If you regularly complain about "bad luck", say things are "unfair" or you "tried your best" and "nobody cares"

Its not any of that, its because your a pathetic self entitled fething loser. Get a grip and sort your life out.

As John Patrick Mason SAS says, .. well. Ive sigged it.

I agree with the orange.. and disagree with the rest


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Frazzled wrote:

Albatross wrote:Some professors, perhaps.

It depends on school district. I don't know how it is in Canada East but in the US the public school system is broken into local school districts with different pay standards - just as their locales have different economics standards.

Many studies have show that the US is an excellent lab experiment in proving tacher salaries are almost completely dissasociated with performance. Many of the best paying union strong school districts (NY and Washington DC as an example), have some of the most horrific educational rates. of course, teachers are just the tip of the educational spear as it were, and its like waiters. The problems with the food aren't the waiters, its the crappy kitchen and management.

you know... as a teacher i 100% agree with Frazzled in almost every post on this topic... I must be feeling sick... or... becoming... old and crotchety.... GEEEEEEEEEEEEET OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF MYYYY LAWN

mattyrm wrote:

Its why ive got not time for fethers like my missus brother or her best mate. If you regularly complain about "bad luck", say things are "unfair" or you "tried your best" and "nobody cares"

Its not any of that, its because your a pathetic self entitled fething loser. Get a grip and sort your life out.

As John Patrick Mason SAS says, .. well. Ive sigged it.

I have to disagree with this. Plenty of people are disadvantaged from the beginning. Here, I'll come up with a quick list.

1. African Americans, Asians, Middle Eastern People and Hispanics.
2. Women and Transgender People.
3. People who grew up very, very, very poor in bad neighborhoods.
4. Physically disabled people.
5. Absolutely hideous people.
6. That guy who was struck by lightning 11 times.
7. Mentally disabled people.

I'm a white male living in a nice neighborhood in a nice city in a 1st world country. My dad is a lawyer and my mom is a psychologist. So I'm not complaining. I'd be a complete doosh if I was. However, there are people that have the right to complain. Life ain't fair and don't try to pretend it is. My extreme privilege is good evidence of this.

LoneLictor wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

Its why ive got not time for fethers like my missus brother or her best mate. If you regularly complain about "bad luck", say things are "unfair" or you "tried your best" and "nobody cares"

Its not any of that, its because your a pathetic self entitled fething loser. Get a grip and sort your life out.

As John Patrick Mason SAS says, .. well. Ive sigged it.

I have to disagree with this. Plenty of people are disadvantaged from the beginning. Here, I'll come up with a quick list.

1. African Americans, Asians, Middle Eastern People and Hispanics.
2. Women and Transgender People.
3. People who grew up very, very, very poor in bad neighborhoods.
4. Physically disabled people.
5. Absolutely hideous people.
6. That guy who was struck by lightning 11 times.
7. Mentally disabled people.

I'm a white male living in a nice neighborhood in a nice city in a 1st world country. My dad is a lawyer and my mom is a psychologist. So I'm not complaining. I'd be a complete doosh if I was. However, there are people that have the right to complain. Life ain't fair and don't try to pretend it is. My extreme privilege is good evidence of this.

Oh come on, Im on about your average Joe clearly, my missus best mate who is spoilt rotten and wont work even though she is 26, or her brother who lives with his mom and doesnt work and is 30. Im quite clearly not on about actually disadvantaged people.. gak, if you want to do that I can add a few hundred more onto your list!

1. Men with their hands on their shoulders
2.Women with three tits
3. Children with a cojoined sibling growing from their ass.

I mean, was there any need to even write your list? Im not gonna shout at someone with Downs syndrome "Go work in a mine!"

Mattyrm,

You don't live in the United States where there are people
who refuse to acknowledge the difficulty of generational
poverty.

malfred wrote:Mattyrm,

You don't live in the United States where there are people
who refuse to acknowledge the difficulty of generational
poverty.

Because it's a myth, like gravity. Only the Lord is real.

Poverty or the United States?

Generational poverty; obviously. God created America.

AustonT wrote:Generational poverty; obviously. God created America.

I didn't know people held the British Empire is such high esteem.

I agree with mattyrm
I have some real lazy fethers.
My best mate refuses to get a job because he doesn't want to work in the food industry.
Or someone at my work who always showed up late, or one that never worked properly. Hell my work said i was a god send because i did my work right.

hotsauceman1 wrote:My best mate refuses to get a job because he doesn't want to work in the food industry.

Ah, yes. The old:

"There's no jobs!"

"You could work at that place, they're hiring."

"I would never work there!"

This is purely anecdotal, obviously, but everyone I know that "just can't find a job" is a complete jackass.

I have always hated those guys. It may just be the way my parents raised me, but I always figured that a job is your job and you should do the best that you can when you do it.

Feth, even when I was still 17 and working at the McD's I would get other teenagers that just did nothing but slack off and never take their job seriously. If you tried to call them out on it the reply would always be "feth it, this is just McD's, it's a crap job so why should I care". It would just tick me off. I would always tell them "You care because it if your fething job. And even if it is a crappy job I am going to do it the best that I can and be proud in my work." Probably didn't carry much weight coming from a 17 year old guy, but at least it made me feel bether.

Kids these days...

Monster Rain wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:My best mate refuses to get a job because he doesn't want to work in the food industry.

Ah, yes. The old:

"There's no jobs!"

"You could work at that place, they're hiring."

"I would never work there!"

This is purely anecdotal, obviously, but everyone I know that "just can't find a job" is a complete jackass.

Yeah that chick I'm on about, she is unbelievable. She came to stay with us for a visit last year, and wound up staying for the full 12 weeks allowed on her visa. She is a nice looking lass so, I guess she has just gotten used to special treatment. I mean, if you can afford a 3 month holiday (and she finished school about two years ago) your getting funded. Her mom pays for her apartment in Pasadena, and in CA me and the missus went for dinner with her and her mother, and I said "Hey your place in Pasadena is awesome!" (It is! Its clean and pretty fancy, and right round the corner from Lucky Baldwins and that big ass gaming place on the corner) and right in front of her mom she is basically going "No Matty, its a dump.. I HATE it there.." In front of her bloody mother! And after she got back from England her Mom bought her a new car, but she complained to me about it being second hand even though it was some fancy Toyota that went for about $12,000, its just endless. And then she complains about not being able to find a job, but every single thing we suggest she goes "Ugh! Im not working there!"

I think the fethers just expect to start at the top. I mean she happily applies for a position as editor of a magazine with a 65k salary and when she doesn't get it then its always "Bad luck, unfair, tried my best, nobody cares" repeat till Matty leaves and goes to the pub.

And our lass has a brother thats identical, the blokes 30 and a total fething loser. He has been whinging at her all week about how he is depressed and he is in debt and he never gets any of the awesome jobs he applies for because its all too hard.

Basically I think as always, you need a happy medium. If you spoil a kid rotten the fether will never want to work, and if you give them nothing they will be toothless career doleys with more toes than teeth and 7 kids.

The balance seems to be, love your kids, but make the little bastards work for their allowance and their college fund.

mattyrm wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

Its why ive got not time for fethers like my missus brother or her best mate. If you regularly complain about "bad luck", say things are "unfair" or you "tried your best" and "nobody cares"

Its not any of that, its because your a pathetic self entitled fething loser. Get a grip and sort your life out.

As John Patrick Mason SAS says, .. well. Ive sigged it.

I have to disagree with this. Plenty of people are disadvantaged from the beginning. Here, I'll come up with a quick list.

1. African Americans, Asians, Middle Eastern People and Hispanics.
2. Women and Transgender People.
3. People who grew up very, very, very poor in bad neighborhoods.
4. Physically disabled people.
5. Absolutely hideous people.
6. That guy who was struck by lightning 11 times.
7. Mentally disabled people.

I'm a white male living in a nice neighborhood in a nice city in a 1st world country. My dad is a lawyer and my mom is a psychologist. So I'm not complaining. I'd be a complete doosh if I was. However, there are people that have the right to complain. Life ain't fair and don't try to pretend it is. My extreme privilege is good evidence of this.

Oh come on, Im on about your average Joe clearly, my missus best mate who is spoilt rotten and wont work even though she is 26, or her brother who lives with his mom and doesnt work and is 30. Im quite clearly not on about actually disadvantaged people.. gak, if you want to do that I can add a few hundred more onto your list!

1. Men with their hands on their shoulders
2.Women with three tits
3. Children with a cojoined sibling growing from their ass.

I mean, was there any need to even write your list? Im not gonna shout at someone with Downs syndrome "Go work in a mine!"

A woman with three tits is in no way disadvantaged. In fact she could readily find work and make six figures annually I would wager...

mattyrm wrote: Oh come on, Im on about your average Joe clearly, my missus best mate who is spoilt rotten and wont work even though she is 26, or her brother who lives with his mom and doesnt work and is 30. Im quite clearly not on about actually disadvantaged people.. gak, if you want to do that I can add a few hundred more onto your list!

1. Men with their hands on their shoulders
2.Women with three tits
3. Children with a cojoined sibling growing from their ass.

I mean, was there any need to even write your list? Im not gonna shout at someone with Downs syndrome "Go work in a mine!"

I apologize, I mistakenly thought you were one of those crazy 'poverty deniers' in the US.

mattyrm wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:My best mate refuses to get a job because he doesn't want to work in the food industry.

Ah, yes. The old:

"There's no jobs!"

"You could work at that place, they're hiring."

"I would never work there!"

This is purely anecdotal, obviously, but everyone I know that "just can't find a job" is a complete jackass.

Yeah that chick I'm on about, she is unbelievable. She came to stay with us for a visit last year, and wound up staying for the full 12 weeks allowed on her visa. She is a nice looking lass so, I guess she has just gotten used to special treatment. I mean, if you can afford a 3 month holiday (and she finished school about two years ago) your getting funded. Her mom pays for her apartment in Pasadena, and in CA me and the missus went for dinner with her and her mother, and I said "Hey your place in Pasadena is awesome!" (It is! Its clean and pretty fancy, and right round the corner from Lucky Baldwins and that big ass gaming place on the corner) and right in front of her mom she is basically going "No Matty, its a dump.. I HATE it there.." In front of her bloody mother! And after she got back from England her Mom bought her a new car, but she complained to me about it being second hand even though it was some fancy Toyota that went for about $12,000, its just endless. And then she complains about not being able to find a job, but every single thing we suggest she goes "Ugh! Im not working there!"

I think the fethers just expect to start at the top. I mean she happily applies for a position as editor of a magazine with a 65k salary and when she doesn't get it then its always "Bad luck, unfair, tried my best, nobody cares" repeat till Matty leaves and goes to the pub.

And our lass has a brother thats identical, the blokes 30 and a total fething loser. He has been whinging at her all week about how he is depressed and he is in debt and he never gets any of the awesome jobs he applies for because its all too hard.

Basically I think as always, you need a happy medium. If you spoil a kid rotten the fether will never want to work, and if you give them nothing they will be toothless career doleys with more toes than teeth and 7 kids.

The balance seems to be, love your kids, but make the little bastards work for their allowance and their college fund.

Or atleast teach the the value of hard work. Yeah, you shouldnt settle for any job sometimes but having unrealistic standards is just stupid.

CT GAMER wrote:

A woman with three tits is in no way disadvantaged. In fact she could readily find work and make six figures annually I would wager...

Baby.. you make me wish I had three hands!

LoneLictor wrote:

I apologize, I mistakenly thought you were one of those crazy 'poverty deniers' in the US.

Hah! No I'm not a Republican.

LoneLictor wrote:

I apologize, I mistakenly thought you were one of those crazy 'poverty deniers' in the US.

Poverty is a myth made up by liberal think tanks and perpetuated by the mainstream media so that Democrats can raise taxes.

1. Men with their hands on their shoulders
2.Women with three tits
3. Children with a cojoined sibling growing from their ass.

Those guys have it easy. Now if you're the kid growing out someone else's rear, THATS DiSADVANTAGED!

I find myself pretty much in complete agreement with Matty...

Hazardous Harry wrote:

AustonT wrote:Generational poverty; obviously. God created America.

I didn't know people held the British Empire is such high esteem.

Also - Harry, you are awesome. Good job I wasn't drinking tea when I read that otherwise I would have had some explaining to do... Consider it sigged.