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Australia has not been exempt from this. Our prices have risen as well. Just look at the Aspect Warrior cost... sheesh...

I saw the fine cast terminator librarian was $22. The storm talon shortbus pile o crap is $45.

It's over, man. I'm done with buying 40k stuff.

And now that I look at the prices, the Land Raider costs the same as the battleforces use to cost two years ago when I started.

Dayvuni wrote:A petition would be better, if Yakface could get a petition going and send it to GW HQ that we are barely able to afford products if GW doesn't change their ways it is their fault for losing all their support.

Also a lot of us have such a strong connection with the game it will take much to entirely kill the hobby even if no one can afford new models.

I agree there needs to be a petition circulating, although I have never seen or heard of any real changes that petitions have brought about I still think it is something the community CAN DO and take directly to GW - rather than hoping they read and take note of the many, many complaints we leave online.

I am also torn apart by the prospect of ever giving up the hobby. I absolutely LOVE Warhammer 40K and it's whole universe, to give it up now after so much time and devotion to it would feel like giving a child away - but this is just blackmail on GW's part and I personally can't stand it any longer.

GW are quite literally the crack dealers of the miniature world.

*edits for spelling*

Problem with writing to GW:
- Their view of the internet community? That the fanbase erroneously believe that they have some kind of entitlement to whatever GW does.
- You would not believe the opinion in which the customer base is held by the upper management. Years ago probably the most family-friendly term I heard bandied about was 'sheep', I can't believe that it will have improved since then. The people who were queuing for more than 4 hours at a previous Games Day to buy stuff? 'Whiners' (again this is a direct quote).
- They are still getting good financial and bottom line results. The shareholding organisations that own the majority of GW are presumably happy. It doesn't matter that pretty much 90% of the enlightened fan community knows that this model is unsustainable (there are only so many times you can cut staff or reduce production costs etc.) - their chairman Tom Kirby is almost at retirement age and is busy lining his own nest. Mark Wells will presumably just jump back to hair products or something, and in the meantime we will continue to get those 'good forecast' financial reports.

We are still getting problem reports from the new Finecast more than one year after it's initial release. The prices went up again in 2012 despite almost universal admonishment. As they say, the 'proof is in the pudding' - it's not necessary to speculate about what GW thinks of its fanbase and its own pride in the quality of the products it is releasing, the evidence is there right before our eyes.

The real problem with writing to GW? They know it won't amount to anything. Every time a new release or price increase comes out, people swear they'll never buy from GW again.


Two weeks later they've bought their next major army.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Australia has not been exempt from this. Our prices have risen as well. Just look at the Aspect Warrior cost... sheesh...

We got some of it, like you said, the Aspect Warriors. We didn't get all of it, and none of the ludicrous increases.

I recently left GW because of the price and now play PP and Inferno (WIP Skirmish)

Now ive just seen the GW website...

I am glad i left GW...

We can complain alot here in America, but at least our Land Raiders are cheaper than Australian Chibi-Chibitalons.

YELLOWBLADES wrote:I recently left GW because of the price and now play PP and Inferno (WIP Skirmish)

Now ive just seen the GW website...

I am glad i left GW...

To be fair, GW prices and PP have similar model costs. But GW is far more expensive because of its price not by model, but to field a functional unit.

WarOne wrote:We can complain alot here in America, but at least our Land Raiders are cheaper than Australian Chibi-Chibitalons.

YELLOWBLADES wrote:I recently left GW because of the price and now play PP and Inferno (WIP Skirmish)

Now ive just seen the GW website...

I am glad i left GW...

To be fair, GW prices and PP have similar model costs. But GW is far more expensive because of its price not by model, but to field a functional unit.

I feel that buying a PP warmachine unit really changes the style of play and is enjoyable to paint build and game with.

WM costs about £70 per army to play a fair sized game (inc rulebook)

But GW now charge £70-80 a battle force! when i started wargaming my first battleforce was half that amount for exactly the same models

I agree GWs And PPs prices are the same but gamewise and rulewise i prefer PP

All I know is that I'm damn glad they didn't do what I was afraid of with this latest wave, which is release Wraithguard redone in Finecast at $20+. I'm frankly astounded that they haven't, because it seemed logical GW would pull something like that.

Really happy they didn't though. I have been seriously wanting them for my new Eldar army but was completely unwilling up till now to pay $45US for a minimum strength unit of three freaking models. Now that I got some gift certificates for my 30th b-day, I can finally jump at getting them.

But.... if they were $20+ for Finecast, I would feel pretty guilty even with it being gift money, and they would also have the double downside of being Finecast, which I absolutely never want on my shelf. Any models that stay in metal- however long that may be- keeps me one step further from ever having to switch to Finecast.

AegisGrimm wrote:All I know is that I'm damn glad they didn't do what I was afraid of with this latest wave, which is release Wraithguard redone in Finecast at $20+. I'm frankly astounded that they haven't, because it seemed logical GW would pull something like that.

Really happy they didn't though. I have been seriously wanting them for my new Eldar army but was completely unwilling up till now to pay $45US for a minimum strength unit of three freaking models. Now that I got some gift certificates for my 30th b-day, I can finally jump at getting them.

But.... if they were $20+ for Finecast, I would feel pretty guilty even with it being gift money, and they would also have the double downside of being Finecast, which I absolutely never want on my shelf. Any models that stay in metal- however long that may be- keeps me one step further from ever having to switch to Finecast.

You will understand my pain then when I tell you that all but one of the special choices from my fantasy army (Dark Elves) are now in finecast. With a generous £8.20 price increase!

Time to start hunting down some metal Executioners on Ebay...

Yup. Prices are definitely high enough, especially after this freaking latest price hike, to make getting a gift certificate a good way to go, "Phew, now I can finally get some of the minis I refused to shell out MY hard-earned cash to get bent over by GW for."

The only harsh part is the reality when you realize that 3 Wraithguard and the 3-pack of Rangers is (here in the US) 60 dollars for a whopping 6 figures that have been in constant production for nearly 15 years, thus seeing every price hike since then, making their current cost pretty close to 200% of when they were first released for those particular figures.

It's like seeing a decade into the future, and having a Stormtalon be priced at $180US.

AegisGrimm wrote:It's like seeing a decade into the future, and having a Stormtalon be priced at $180US.

Conceivable. I remember the original plastic Rhino being packed several (three?) to a box for £10. That same casting finally went off sale at £15 each, then they released the current model. Still, quite an increase...

YELLOWBLADES wrote:

WarOne wrote:We can complain alot here in America, but at least our Land Raiders are cheaper than Australian Chibi-Chibitalons.

YELLOWBLADES wrote:I recently left GW because of the price and now play PP and Inferno (WIP Skirmish)

Now ive just seen the GW website...

I am glad i left GW...

To be fair, GW prices and PP have similar model costs. But GW is far more expensive because of its price not by model, but to field a functional unit.

I feel that buying a PP warmachine unit really changes the style of play and is enjoyable to paint build and game with.

WM costs about £70 per army to play a fair sized game (inc rulebook)

But GW now charge £70-80 a battle force! when i started wargaming my first battleforce was half that amount for exactly the same models

I agree GWs And PPs prices are the same but gamewise and rulewise i prefer PP

I started playing Warmachine, and my investment is certainly lower because my start up costs are lower. That is the biggest difference compared to the two.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

AegisGrimm wrote:It's like seeing a decade into the future, and having a Stormtalon be priced at $180US.

Conceivable. I remember the original plastic Rhino being packed several (three?) to a box for £10. That same casting finally went off sale at £15 each, then they released the current model. Still, quite an increase...

Don't forget that the current multipart Tactical Squad used to be in a box of 10 for £10. Khorne Berserkers were 12 for £10, Ork Boys were 12 for £10. £23 is a bit of a price rise.

Ah, the golden age of 3rd ed. prices.

DarkStarSabre wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:

AegisGrimm wrote:It's like seeing a decade into the future, and having a Stormtalon be priced at $180US.

Conceivable. I remember the original plastic Rhino being packed several (three?) to a box for £10. That same casting finally went off sale at £15 each, then they released the current model. Still, quite an increase...

Don't forget that the current multipart Tactical Squad used to be in a box of 10 for £10. Khorne Berserkers were 12 for £10, Ork Boys were 12 for £10. £23 is a bit of a price rise.

Ah, the golden age of 3rd ed. prices.

You could buy boxes of 16 Ork boys couldn't you (4th Ed. I think)? How much did they cost then?

Actually, I think those were the ones originally out in 3rd. edition for £10-£12.

Seriously, the only thing that has actually gotten cheaper in all these years and seems to hold up well is the Lictor.

2nd ed - £12 and then £15
3rd ed - £8
4th ed - £8, £10 and then £12.50
Finecast - £15.50

Not bad. Pity Lictors aren't useful at all.

All the squad/regiment boxes appeared towards the end of £10 back in 5th ed Fantasy and 3rd ed 40K. The contents have changed a little, but the first one was Chaos Warriors 12 for £10 and then they did the multipart skeletons at 20 for £10. The marines were multipart 10 for £10 and after years of the solid 2nd edition marines were amazing.

50p a skeleton was great value even under 5th ed Fantasy. When I got even a modest amount of money for christmas/birthday, I could buy a heap of figures. But then they soon went up to £12, but it still wasn't so bad and they seemed to stay at that price for a while if I recall, and that's when I got my skaven, empire and undead forces. But then they went up to £15 and the deal wasn't so good, and then they were £18. Then they halved the contents of many boxes but only put them down to £12, and they've since crept up to £15 and up to £18.

That's why my Catachan plastics were 50p each, and the exact same figures are now £1.80 each. If that's not taking the piss what is?

Howard A Treesong wrote:All the squad/regiment boxes appeared towards the end of £10 back in 5th ed Fantasy and 3rd ed 40K. The contents have changed a little, but the first one was Chaos Warriors 12 for £10 and then they did the multipart skeletons at 20 for £10. The marines were multipart 10 for £10 and after years of the solid 2nd edition marines were amazing.

50p a skeleton was great value even under 5th ed Fantasy. When I got even a modest amount of money for christmas/birthday, I could buy a heap of figures. But then they soon went up to £12, but it still wasn't so bad and they seemed to stay at that price for a while if I recall, and that's when I got my skaven, empire and undead forces. But then they went up to £15 and the deal wasn't so good, and then they were £18. Then they halved the contents of many boxes but only put them down to £12, and they've since crept up to £15 and up to £18.

That's why my Catachan plastics were 50p each, and the exact same figures are now £1.80 each. If that's not taking the piss what is?

Well it's clearly because those Catachans are modelling perfection. No other 28mm model could come close to the quality of them.


(Please note the obvious sarcasm, made obvious by this sentence)