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-Loki- wrote:So did they decide to just leave Australia out this time? Because the things I was worried about (Carnifex and Tyranid Warriors) haven't budged.

Sssssh they'll hear you

Is Games for Geeks a reputable website? I'm looking at their website and the prices seem close to sane, but are they good with shipping times, quality etc? If someone could answer my desperate plea I may even be able to continue with this ruinously expensive hobby.

JeneralJoe117 wrote:Is Games for Geeks a reputable website? I'm looking at their website and the prices seem close to sane, but are they good with shipping times, quality etc? If someone could answer my desperate plea I may even be able to continue with this ruinously expensive hobby.

Yes its a reliable source, i have been using them for a while and two others i also use are Mealstrom and darksphere.
I have not bought much GW from source for a long long time, only finecast which i cannot seem to get anywhere else.

Rayvon wrote:

JeneralJoe117 wrote:Is Games for Geeks a reputable website? I'm looking at their website and the prices seem close to sane, but are they good with shipping times, quality etc? If someone could answer my desperate plea I may even be able to continue with this ruinously expensive hobby.

Yes its a reliable source, i have been using them for a while and two others i also use are Mealstrom and darksphere.
I have not bought much GW from source for a long long time, only finecast which i cannot seem to get anywhere else.

Thank you kind sir, you shall get your reward in heaven. Or something like that.

TBD wrote:

Most of their plastic kits are of great quality, and I find them very much superior to most scale model kits. It is the pricing that sucks monkey balls. The quality of the plastics is excellent and one of the last things we should complain about when it comes to GW.

I'm making a Dragon kit at the moment, a 1/36 scale StUG (essentially, a WW2 fixed turret for those not familiar). It's about the same size as a Chimera, and has about 600 odd pieces. These are a high grade plastic which fit together perfectly, with brass etchings, and pressed aluminium for the side panelling. Even some little pieces of crimped wire for the cabling. It is a beautiful little model, and actually I would say a great little piece of engineering. It costs less than a GW Chimera.

I've got about 20 years or so of model making experience and have made kits from pretty much every manufacturer going. The GW ones certainly aren't bad (I would probably put them alongside some of the newer Revell and Airfix stuff in terms of quality and grade of plastic). But, they are not even close to being 'top end' in the wider plastic kit market. The only reason they are able to charge such exorbitant prices is that they are the sole company making those kits for 40k, WFB or whatever. Realistically, outside of that context and if I was buying a Rhino or Chimera, I would probably be reluctant to spend more than £10/£11 on it.

How would one of those really nice fancy kits hold up to being toted around in a box every week and constantly touched and moved around?

Pacific wrote:Increase just before the Queen's Diamond Jubilee?!?!?! Is nothing sacred!!! !!!! !!!!

This! A million of these!

Necroagogo wrote:
Hopefully Her Majesty will still be able to afford the three Storm Talons for her Ultramarine Aircav

Blasphemy! (You were right P)acific

Given that i use my Pz IV for wargaming, quite well.

Does gifts for geeks deliver to the US?

I still dont get the logic of
"Its not selling, Increase price"
And now razorbacks are more then a tactical squad.
Im sorry to say this but im done buying vehicles.

loki old fart wrote:

-Loki- wrote:So did they decide to just leave Australia out this time? Because the things I was worried about (Carnifex and Tyranid Warriors) haven't budged.

Sssssh they'll hear you

Wasn't Australia listed as an overall loss of revenue in GW's last report?

Here's my tinfoil hat theory (and I think I saw other people come up with this) - Australia is GW's testbed for pricing limits. Eventually, we'll see the rest of the world's prices rise up to Australia's levels.

The people in this thread saying:

"GW needs to charge more because plastic and resin raw materials are getting more expensive"

...have absolutely, flat-out, categorically zero clue about what they're talking about.

If you're gonna white-knight GW, at least come up with an argument that is somewhat grounded to reality, because that one might as well be orbiting a small planetoid somewhere in the Oort Cloud as far as logical debate goes.

scarletsquig wrote:The people in this thread saying:

"GW needs to charge more because plastic and resin raw materials are getting more expensive"

...have absolutely, flat-out, categorically zero clue about what they're talking about.

It isn't need to charge more, just probably one of the reasons.

But hey, what do I know, I will just go back to my job of buying plastic and resin raw materials.

Well, a Land Raider will cost $100.00 in my country.

-Loki- wrote:So did they decide to just leave Australia out this time? Because the things I was worried about (Carnifex and Tyranid Warriors) haven't budged.

Not too sure as I don't keep track of GW Aus's pricing.
http://silverspringhobby.blogspot.ca/2012/05/gw-2012-annual-price-increase-june-1st.html?m=1

However, your Land Raider is the same price as Storm Raven. And oh crap....
It is $100 for Canadians as well, our insane price gaps are catchin up!

infinite_array wrote:

loki old fart wrote:

-Loki- wrote:So did they decide to just leave Australia out this time? Because the things I was worried about (Carnifex and Tyranid Warriors) haven't budged.

Sssssh they'll hear you

Wasn't Australia listed as an overall loss of revenue in GW's last report?

Here's my tinfoil hat theory (and I think I saw other people come up with this) - Australia is GW's testbed for pricing limits. Eventually, we'll see the rest of the world's prices rise up to Australia's levels.

Its no tinfoil hat, at least not for us canucks. Our price % gap is even closer to Australia's now.

sparkywtf wrote:How would one of those really nice fancy kits hold up to being toted around in a box every week and constantly touched and moved around?

You want to know the truth?
The fine detail parts will break, but it's a moot comparison since gw kits have no parts this detailed and fine to start with.
As for a correct comparison? feth yes those fancy kits are way tougher.

What do you have to lose though? the "fancy" kits are way cheaper than GW's, easier to get, more detailed,
whats stopping you from testing it yourself?

JeneralJoe117 wrote:Is Games for Geeks a reputable website? I'm looking at their website and the prices seem close to sane, but are they good with shipping times, quality etc? If someone could answer my desperate plea I may even be able to continue with this ruinously expensive hobby.

They sometime have stock issues. When this happens they'll send the out of stock items as soon as they arrive. Its the only drawback I've experienced yet. Postage is a matter of choice when you checkout and I choose the tracked delivery and it usually takes a week to get stuff. I imagine the other postage options are better.

Just when I wanted to get a second Stormraven. WHY GW!

Lucarikx wrote:Just when I wanted to get a second Stormraven. WHY GW!

They would tell you to buy a StormTalon instead. And a Space Marine army to go with it

Deadshot wrote:

Necroagogo wrote:
Hopefully Her Majesty will still be able to afford the three Storm Talons for her Ultramarine Aircav

Blasphemy! (You were right P)acific

Everyone knows the Queen collects Praetorian Guard!

reading through a couple of miniature wargamer this evening (somebody gave them to me) .....some other systems are so cheap.....£18 for 40 28mm soldiers with free rules at www.freewargamerules.co.uk. Games like blackwater gulch available for £15 and 7tv for £25 highlights that there cheaper things available.

My concer is that the younger gamers who buy starter sets, a battle force, a paint set and then quit after one Xmas and one birthday are going to keep the whole price rise thing going for the foreseeable future....

50 whole Great British Pounds for a Stormraven, ahhh there goes my triple Stormraven list bad times.

On the plus side it does mean you won't have to own and look at three Stormravens.

notprop wrote:On the plus side it does mean you won't have to own and look at three Stormravens.

Hey I like the stormraven, I already own one, it just means I'll have to out source them.

There goes a Kantor AirCav army. 2 scout squads, Kantor, 3 Sternguard Squads, 3 Talons and 3 Ravens. Yes I can take ravens before anyone asks.


50 whole fething pounds! And yet Land Raiders only 45? Tac Squads and Battlewagons don't go up at all! Yet somehow the raven goes up to 50 fething pounds?!

Albeezie wrote:I am fed up with these prices. I refuse to buy anymore GW products from now on to protest these ridiculous prices.

I agree, I'll also no longer be buying any new kits from either GW or 3rd party stockists. I will however continue to buy bitz and the odd eBay purchase to assist with ongoing projects.

In my opinion we need a large slice of the community to take action and actually "hit back" at GW to finally SHOW them that this isn't good enough and they need to rethink their strategies big time.

Though I can't see it happenening, if enough people were able to successfully boycot hobby purchases for a certain time (enough to make a noticible dent in GW profits) i'm sure we could make a difference.

Unfortunately most people in a position of power are left to rule how they see fit because those without refuse to unite and say "NO." in a loud enough voice.

JaxnFury wrote:

Albeezie wrote:I am fed up with these prices. I refuse to buy anymore GW products from now on to protest these ridiculous prices.

I agree, I'll also no longer be buying any new kits from either GW or 3rd party stockists. I will however continue to buy bitz and the odd eBay purchase to assist with ongoing projects.

In my opinion we need a large slice of the community to take action and actually "hit back" at GW to finally SHOW them that this isn't good enough and they need to rethink their strategies big time.

Though I can't see it happenening, if enough people were able to successfully boycot hobby purchases for a certain time (enough to make a noticible dent in GW profits) i'm sure we could make a difference.

Unfortunately most people in a position of power are left to rule how they see fit because those without refuse to unite and say "NO." in a loud enough voice.

A boycott might work but if their sales drop and they raise prices to compensate in a vicious circle, less and less people can buy new models and it will show at Games Day when only wealthy people in suits show up because only they can afford it. A petition would be better, if Yakface could get a petition going and send it to GW HQ that we are barely able to afford products if GW doesn't change their ways it is their fault for losing all their support. Also if they reply with a legitimate reason for the price rises besides greed then the hobby will die.

Also a lot of us have such a strong connection with the game it will take much to entirely kill the hobby even if no one can afford new models.

This has genuinly upset me I must say.
I didn't even join this website long ago, and I had just picked up the first book of the Horus Heresy series.

Now though I'm hanging up my laurels. I was already selling my old CSM off in anticipation of the new sets, but after seeing the battalions and many of the sets JUMP in price (£60>£80? No.) I no longer think I'll be purchasing an army, so I suppose I'm out of the game.

There's really no excuse for a hike like this, especially since the quality of minatures has dropped and the price has always risen way above inflation levels.
To put a displeased rant short, I don't care what stocking or manufacturing claims the company makes on an annual basis to hike up their costs, those are not consumer issues- they are failures in the company, which do not legitamise a price increase. They're just the reason for it being a ripoff price, it doesn't stop them being one.

Use the Swap Shop, use Ebay, use Bartertown, use Craigslist. I like to call it "Purchasing someone else's broken dreams"

Lormax wrote:Use the Swap Shop, use Ebay, use Bartertown, use Craigslist. I like to call it "Purchasing someone else's broken dreams"

I'm sure there will be a lot more of it now that the price increases hit.

I think GW finally jumped the shark on prices.

It's bad enough that I have $100US in birthday gift-certificates (must feel sorry for me turning 30, lol), and I actually feel like I am wasting my loved ones' money by spending it on product at these new GW prices.

Luckily (wipes brow), most of what I need for my Eldar army actually didn't change, like Wraithguard, Eldar rangers, various metal HQ models (no Finecast for me-ever ) etc.

But holy fething . The prices on SM tanks? Seriously? Seriously???

Not to mention all the Finecast unit packs that got hiked yet again. There is no way that 6 Fire Dragons are worth $40+.