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Zatsuku wrote:
Are there even any discounters left in Canada?

Meeplemart offers a discount, but you have to email them for a spreadsheet

I was looking at the £50 Ad Mech starter set, and decided to count up the total cost of buying them separately...£85.50.

Did I get that right, or has my calculator just taken a gak? A £35.50 discount???

Holy gak feth!

I was kinda sorta daydreaming about getting just a couple of boxes as a small allied detachment for my Raven Guard (with Kiavahr being a mini Forgeworld), just 500 - 1000pts or so...But feth me this actually excites me.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Bit annoyed about the Tau one as I bought the campaign box to get the Ethereal, as well as the Fire Warriors and Crisis Suits when they came out - I'd have waited for this had I known!

So would I. That's why they didn't want people to know.

That is seriously fething annoying, though, because like pax said below me you know they planned these out in advance. That means they released the Tau models at their new (ridiculous) prices, and the box with the "exclusive" ethereal that was basically just an excuse to shift product people weren't buying anymore just a couple months ago, knowing full well they'd be doing a bundle like this right after. So people like me, who basically started their Tau army all over again buying new boxes of crisis suits and fire warriors to replace the old models, got ripped off, and deliberately at that. Had I known this bundle was coming before I bought all that gak I could have saved enough money to buy a pair of ghostkeels or a stormsurge, which to me personally is not an insignificant amount of money.

What they should have done was just skipped the "Burning Dawn" box altogether and released this $85 starter instead. The models make a hell of a lot more sense as an ethereal's bodyguard than the scouts and stealth units in the other one, anyway.

 cygnnus wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:


The Tau bundle makes me think that Kirby is being held hostage at GW HQ

What over explanation can there be for this surprising generosity?

Maybe sales numbers that are continuing to be in significant decline, cost-cutting efforts that are no longer able to prop up the bottom line, and a panicky realization that HMS GAMESWORKSHOP has been heading for its own personal iceberg for some time now?

Valete,

JohnS

I think GW understanding their customers buying habits is more likely. Things like this don't just happen, they're planned a while out. They knew people would get excited over this (which we are) and released them when they wanted to.

You don't stay king of the hill by reacting to others, but rather knowing how others react to you.

 Wulfmar wrote:
I'm vocal on these forums about the price gouging, but perhaps GW has turned over a new leaf with these sets?

You're confusing price gouging with supply and demand. Raising the price of batteries during a snow storm is price gouging, it implies unethical business practices and can be against the law even, it's not very applicable to luxury items.

/looks at the ork bundle
flash gitz and a mek
wut

Nice idea though. Both the Space Marine and the Astra Militarum bundle are tempting as hell. So is the Greenskinz bundle, actually...

My favorite is the Militarum bundle. Golly.

 Sidstyler wrote:
Had I known this bundle was coming before I bought all that gak I could have saved enough money to buy a pair of ghostkeels or a stormsurge, which to me personally is not an insignificant amount of money.

I do get that, and I think I'd be similarly disappointed and angry if I'd spent a lot of money on stuff that's now come up at a huge discount.

Still, this is very like a January sale, and I think we have to treat it that way, at least in terms of disappointment management. I get that in theory the boxes are available indefinitely, but the timing of their release has to be an attempt to fill the huge hole in sales most retailers see this time of year, just like any other January sale. I think that overall these boxes are a great thing, not just because they're a great deal for us, but for the long-term health of the company (and thus, the hobby):

1) They make GW pricing actually competitive, for probably the first time ever. For years we've seen their pricing seem more and more unreasonable, both because of much cheaper alternatives (Mantic, Bones) for almost-as-good quality, and because of similarly priced alternatives for better or sometimes much better quality (Hasslefree, Raging Heroes, Corvus Belli etc.). This is a direct assault on both those forms of competition, in terms of the way minis fans are going to be spending their money right now and probably for a while longer.

2) They indicate that someone at GW is actually treating the business as though it were a business, rather than some weird hybrid of cash cow, hobby, drugs empire, and the unknowable, ineffable, mysterious market of wargamers, who are magically immune to market research and data and stuff because they just magically Buy Our Stuff forever and never look at alternatives because Moats and Walls and actually this is sounding more like a wacky religious cult or New Age pyramid scheme. Anyway. Hopefully this is a sign that the powers that be at GW are running the thing by the book (and not the Little Red Book).

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I was looking at the £50 Ad Mech starter set, and decided to count up the total cost of buying them separately...£85.50.

Did I get that right, or has my calculator just taken a gak? A £35.50 discount???

Holy gak feth!

I was kinda sorta daydreaming about getting just a couple of boxes as a small allied detachment for my Raven Guard (with Kiavahr being a mini Forgeworld), just 500 - 1000pts or so...But feth me this actually excites me.

On a completely serious note....I'm very new to Dakka but I am loving all the new words I'm learning m
Gak
Feth. (Ok, this one I've heard as fething but rare)
Discount

Maybe these are forum substitutions for curse words

Yes, the forum substitutes (as best it can) the four letter S word as Gak and the four letter F word as Feth. Don't count on it correcting you every time, so get to using these words of you feel the need to swear.

I am pretty irritated by the SM bundle since I literally just bought a Tactical Squad. The same thing happened to me with Blood Angels before the Battleforces. It makes me apprehensive to buy anything not in a boxed set.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
As mentioned elsewhere, I'm down for a box of Ad-Mech myself, I just need to find a way to make the Spider-Donkey fit in with my 30K stuff.

That's my exact 'issue' with it, I can use the Dominus and Skitarii easily enough in 30k but not sure what to do with the Onager.

Stick it on an oval base and call it a Thanatar?

Registering my interest in finding out what exactly the Necron Retribution Phalanx is/does (I don't see how those units would work with each other thematically, so am keen to see how they spin it/see whether they can actually make something functional out of them other than "The Warriors all have BS5 if standing near the Stalker.")

Do we have any firm info as to how long these bundles will be available? I know there's nothing saying 'time-limited', but -- anything on whether there's liable to be a price rise in a few months, even (as they've tended to do with actual starter sets)?

I'm guessing, given that we had no hint about this via any rumourmongers till a day or so before release date, we won't find out any changes till they happen either!

Not that I know of at least (I know, not saying much), speaking to the staff at my local, they haven't been told either but hope it's indeffinite. I've ordered the Skitarii box and hoping that they'll last at least until my next paycheque when I'll get the Nids box as well.

Well, I went through with it and preordered the SM box. I will post a picture of the formation once I get it. In spite of it having a Tactical Squad I don't really NEED, it still is mostly composed of stuff I don't have. And I can never have too many angry washing machines.

Can someone tell me if doubling up on the Tau box is a valid purchase for someone just starting the faction?

Will I get use out of 20 Fire-Warriors? Presumably the Crisis suits are obviously good to own.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Can someone tell me if doubling up on the Tau box is a valid purchase for someone just starting the faction?

Will I get use out of 20 Fire-Warriors? Presumably the Crisis suits are obviously good to own.

They could always throw one or both of the ethereal on eBay. It is a very good deal. It would have their bases covered between the FW and Crisis Suits.

Has anyone seen anything on the new ' Formation ' rules yet?

 Solar_lion wrote:
Has anyone seen anything on the new ' Formation ' rules yet?

None of them have been released yet - they're all on pre-order only

 pax macharia wrote:

 Wulfmar wrote:
I'm vocal on these forums about the price gouging, but perhaps GW has turned over a new leaf with these sets?

You're confusing price gouging with supply and demand. Raising the price of batteries during a snow storm is price gouging, it implies unethical business practices and can be against the law even, it's not very applicable to luxury items.

Price gouging is a reaction to supply and demand - if not, what is it? Raising the price for no reason on an item with no demand? Sure the term is used mainly on essential products for which there is no alternative (such as medication), but I was using it as a hyperbole so I don't really see what you're getting at.

I really am considering some AoS Chaos.... Must resist, I have a 30k army to finish first.

Just wanted to say, my favourite e-tailer put on their FB wall today that they've been told the new box sets are in fact limited. Grab 'em while you can, I suppose. Certainly dampens my enthusiasm a bit, one step forward two steps back...

Why am I not surprised.

We've already had people confirm they're general release and not limited. He might mean the first shipment.

 Mymearan wrote:
We've already had people confirm they're general release and not limited. He might mean the first shipment.

That's basically what always happens. GW tells nobody that there is going to be a small amount for shelf-stocking, but they'll fill all preorders.

The words they used were "Limited Run". I didn't see any confirmation to the contrary, guess I missed it.

 Bull0 wrote:
The words they used were "Limited Run". I didn't see any confirmation to the contrary, guess I missed it.

Yeeeah...I'll wait until it gets mentioned by somewhere other than an etailer.

I've appreciated some of GW's recent moves, and baby-steps towards improving, but did assume these bundles could be limited. The savings on several is just so deep that it renders several other products moot.

Who would buy Crisis Suits for $75 when this bundle exists at $85? Ditto, with some of the other bundles.

Its far sooner than I planned to buy them, but I just ordered two of the Tau sets. With FLGS discount, and sales tax I got them for just over $150 which is pretty terrific.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
The words they used were "Limited Run". I didn't see any confirmation to the contrary, guess I missed it.

Yeeeah...I'll wait until it gets mentioned by somewhere other than an etailer.

Do whatever you want with the info, like I said I hadn't really seen it specified one way or the other before so thought it was worth sharing.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I've appreciated some of GW's recent moves, and baby-steps towards improving, but did assume these bundles could be limited. The savings on several is just so deep that it renders several other products moot.

Who would buy Crisis Suits for $75 when this bundle exists at $85? Ditto, with some of the other bundles.

Its far sooner than I planned to buy them, but I just ordered two of the Tau sets. With FLGS discount, and sales tax I got them for just over $150 which is pretty terrific.

People who don't need another Ethereal or Fire Warriors and don't want to go through the hassle of selling the leftovers on ebay?

The old Battleforces were pretty good deals. In particular, the old Necron one was actually quite cheap compared to buying Warriors/Immortals/Ghost Ark separately, but I didn't buy it each time I needed Warriors.

My FLGS was saying Calth was limited, im not sure I take much stock when someone says its "Limited" considering when it is limited, it says so on the store page.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
My FLGS was saying Calth was limited, im not sure I take much stock when someone says its "Limited" considering when it is limited, it says so on the store page.

Yeah, if the store I was referring to had lied about it in the past I wouldn't take much stock in it either, but so far they haven't - they correctly identified that Stormclaw and Deathstorm would be limited ed, but with BaC made no such claim, only pointing out that people who didn't order might have to wait for shipment 2.

Another important thing to note, these are labeled "Out of stock" on the website, if they where limited run, it would say "Sold out"