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Let's price BAC against the 2004 GW prices:
3 Tactical Squads @ $30 ea = $90
1 Terminator Squad @ $30
1 Dreadnought @ $35
2 Characters @ $8 ea = $16
= $170 USD MSRP total
= $135 after a -20% discount

So that's $20 for the game itself?

Seems fair to me.

BAC is a good deal for space marine players, so if people buy the game only for the mini's that is ok IMHO.

@JohnHwangDD

I think 2004 forgeworld prices would be more appropriate as these models were not for sale in plastic or metal at that time.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
BAC is a good deal for space marine players, so if people buy the game only for the mini's that is ok IMHO.

Or if you want to play CSM without mutations and spikes.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Your argument is a straw-man. No one has claimed that BaC is a good deal in a vacuum, the only assertion people have made is that it is a good deal in comparison to Games Workshop's other price-points.

Talk about damning with faint praise, then. I'm sure that stepping on nails doesn't hurt as much as stepping on a landmine but that doesn't really mean much.

 the_Armyman wrote:
You've proven my point: you have been convinced that all of these sprues are worth exactly what GW tells you they're worth. You see the contents of a box of cardstock and plastic sprue as worth $307 dollars, therefore it's a steal at $180. I love 40K, but GW can never convince me that what they sell is worth the price they charge. I'll also never buy a product marketed as one thing with a sly wink and a nod. It's like walking into the throne room of the Wizard of Oz, and willfully ignoring the man behind the curtain.

Dude, what the feth are you even talking about? When did the disagreement here change from "what people are willing to pay for something" to "what the_Armyman will pay for something"? Thousands of people in the hobby will pay $50 for a box of Tactical Marines. There are sales numbers out there to prove that. Hundreds of people will pay whatever FW charges for 10 Tactical Marines. The "value" of anything is exactly what people will pay for it.

So do you not put gas in your car because you don't want to "pay what the gas stations tell you it's worth"? Stop changing the goal posts, I don't even remember what your point is by now. Is it that GW is expensive? Yes, it is. I can't and won't dispute that. But when I'm paying $180 for something I'd normally pay $280 for, how exactly am I not getting a deal?

Ohhhh, right because I'm a sheep just doing what GW tells me...

The board game is boring borderline trash. I already have far more interesting boardgames/games in my cupboard that also do not require me to paint the miniatures different schemes to keep track of them instead of for a single army. Meanwhile as I got BaC for just $112 or so, I got 30 MK IV tacs, 5 Cata termies, 1 contemptor (with a solid loadout), and 2 HQ. All in relic armor.

 Ashiraya wrote:
I would have bought BAC for my 30k army if I didn't have so many unpainted things already.

I am in the same canoe.

 kronk wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
I would have bought BAC for my 30k army if I didn't have so many unpainted things already.

I am in the same canoe.

Then start paddling

Rosebuddy wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Your argument is a straw-man. No one has claimed that BaC is a good deal in a vacuum, the only assertion people have made is that it is a good deal in comparison to Games Workshop's other price-points.

Talk about damning with faint praise, then. I'm sure that stepping on nails doesn't hurt as much as stepping on a landmine but that doesn't really mean much.

To keep that metaphor going: it probably means an awful lot to the folks who've lost an entire leg to landmines.

Hmm, maybe for some people's sanity, I probably should refrain from mentioning how I am buying the Betrayal at Calth terminators to add to my old 4th ed. 13th company force so I can have fluff-logical Wolf Guard in terminator armor, which even when being repaired off the battlefield with scrounged Chaos equipment would be of Heresy-era style, because technically both Chaos and 13th company would still be nursing along Heresy-era Marks of suits.

Not that the old rules for 13th company would allow Wolf Guard at all, much less in Terminator armor, but it'll look too damn cool to pass up for fun games.

 Wyzilla wrote:
The board game is boring borderline trash. I already have far more interesting boardgames/games in my cupboard that also do not require me to paint the miniatures different schemes to keep track of them instead of for a single army. Meanwhile as I got BaC for just $112 or so, I got 30 MK IV tacs, 5 Cata termies, 1 contemptor (with a solid loadout), and 2 HQ. All in relic armor.

God, nothing is more boring than a boardgame snob. And, I am one. BaC is fast, fun, and sophisticated. And, you got it for free in your amazing deal. And, I'll bet you've never played it. Be advised, it is not a multiplayer game where you gather sheep and wood.

 Lord Corellia wrote:

 the_Armyman wrote:
You've proven my point: you have been convinced that all of these sprues are worth exactly what GW tells you they're worth. You see the contents of a box of cardstock and plastic sprue as worth $307 dollars, therefore it's a steal at $180. I love 40K, but GW can never convince me that what they sell is worth the price they charge. I'll also never buy a product marketed as one thing with a sly wink and a nod. It's like walking into the throne room of the Wizard of Oz, and willfully ignoring the man behind the curtain.

Dude, what the feth are you even talking about? When did the disagreement here change from "what people are willing to pay for something" to "what the_Armyman will pay for something"? Thousands of people in the hobby will pay $50 for a box of Tactical Marines. There are sales numbers out there to prove that. Hundreds of people will pay whatever FW charges for 10 Tactical Marines. The "value" of anything is exactly what people will pay for it.

So do you not put gas in your car because you don't want to "pay what the gas stations tell you it's worth"? Stop changing the goal posts, I don't even remember what your point is by now. Is it that GW is expensive? Yes, it is. I can't and won't dispute that. But when I'm paying $180 for something I'd normally pay $280 for, how exactly am I not getting a deal?

Ohhhh, right because I'm a sheep just doing what GW tells me...

I would ignore him at this point, he's been on a rant like that in other threads as well and seems to only want to enrage people for some unspecified reason.