What on your thoughts on people who only buy Betrayel at Calth only for the models?

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**DorianGray**

The people who have zero interest in the actual boardgame and toss the contents / sell on ebay?

I feel like it's a dis-service to the actual boardgame and it is actually pretty good. But no some people are not open to trying out new things.

Do you feel this is right?

**Gordon Shumway**

"Right" has nothing to do with it. They bought it, they can do whatever they want with it.

**Eldarain**

Fine by me. If they're not interested and it can both recoup some costs while getting the game to someone who doesn't want the minis all the better.

**Slayer-Fan123**

They are smart people?

**HoundsofDemos**

You bought some cool marines and got a board game as well. Paint them well and play.

**insaniak**

Why would I have any thoughts on it? It's nothing to do with me, what people choose to do with the things they buy.

If someone just wants the models, and discards the rest, that's entirely up to them.

**the_Armyman**

People stand in line to buy brand new electronics devices only to make videos of them lighting them on fire or throwing them from the tops of tall buildings. Other people's money has a way of getting spent whether you approve of the expenditure or not. I just hope all these Horus Heresy guys keep buying Space Marines with slightly different helmet styles so the rest of us can occasionally see cool stuff like AdMech and Harlequins getting produced.

**MechaEmperor7000**

My dad buys picture frames to build fish tanks out of them.

People buy things with specific intentions in mind, and there's really nothing to say on the matter unless they're using the products for harmful purposes (like buying plumbing hardware to make pipe bombs. That is an issue).

**mrveng**

Whether or not the buyer intends to play the new boardgame is irrelevant. If they are spending money on the product, they can do whatever they want with the product. Great looking minis at a very affordable price? Seems like a pretty good deal.

**DaPino**

Honestly, it's their problem, not yours. Betrayal at Calth is a fun thing to play to have a little something else in between. If they're not using 100% of the product they bought, that's their problem.

However, not everyone likes everything and people are not obligated to use it and there is no right or wrong there. BoC is a great deal even if you disregard the boardgame.
I've actually thought about buying one of those boards from ebay in order to have a bigger board, but there's probably going to be expansions and I decided to wait for those.

**TheCustomLime**

As someone who did just this I could tell you that Betrayal at Calth was, to me, affordable Horus Heresy tacticals in plastic first and a board game like... tenth. Before Betrayal at Calth 30 Mk. IV tactical marines would run you $300 alone. Now it's only $150 plus 5 multipart plastic cataphracti terminators, two HQs and a Contemptor dread. For a Horus Heresy player Betrayal at Calth was a huge load off of the wallet.

So, yeah, it isn't surprising that people only care about the minis when you consider the context in which the game was released.

**Psienesis**

Good for them and all the more power to them. If they can get a hook-up for the plasti-crack on the cheap? They can go with their bad selves. I have no qualms at all with someone who goes that route.

Hell, when the re-release of BFG comes out, I'm buying it for the ship models, not the game. Those models (and possible the board itself) will be incredible in a game of Rogue Trader.

**Col. Dash**

Did the same and will do so again. I read through the fluff and then discarded the rest. I use every one of the marines and terminators but I have at least 2 contemptors I will be selling on ebay. Really don't need that many contemptors. As long as GW gets its money and has a winning product they will continue to put out such products(in theory).

If you like the game then great. I just had no interest in it.

**hobojebus**

It's different from when people bought execution force to get early access to the assassin's.

The game isn't what interested people it was just a great deal for the minis compared to the resin versions.

Who are you to judge others for doing what they want with their property, it's not your money they spent.

**ServiceGames**

I bought it only for the models. I mean, I'm keeping the board game as well, but I'm also planning on using the entire set of models to make a big World Eaters army instead of part Ultramarines part Word Bearers. I have the FW Angron model as well. After I finish up painting my Skyhammer Annihilation Force, I might just start on painting the World Eaters (pre-heresy colors).

SG

**AllSeeingSkink**

DorianGray wrote:
Do you feel this is right?

They bought it, they can do what they like with it. "Right" and "Wrong" don't factor in to it one tiny bit.

**Nevelon**

I’m not opposed to playing the game. It actually looks fun and well done. But I bought it for the minis. They are all going to be painted to join my Ultras. If/when I play the game, my old dusty BAs will stand in for the WBs.

**Paradigm**

I haven't yet played the game, but I'm not going to dismiss it just yet; pooling the minis into one army makes playing the BaC game with just the contents difficult, but if I get around to building a traitor set or just a small traitor or CSM warband, I'd like to give it a go at least once or twice.

I'm also not getting rid of those awesome tiles. BaC+Space Hulk+maybe what's in the new Deathwatch game= awesome Zone Mortalis setup...

**Vaktathi**

People actually cared about the boardgame?

I don't know anyone that bought it for the "boardgame", the "boardgame" was there as a marketing freebie to help drive sales of the models, and GW will probably be the first to tell you that.

**Kirasu**

DorianGray wrote:
The people who have zero interest in the actual boardgame and toss the contents / sell on ebay?

I feel like it's a dis-service to the actual boardgame and it is actually pretty good. But no some people are not open to trying out new things.

Do you feel this is right?

?? Disservice to an inanimate object? It's their property, who cares what they decide to do with it.

**conker249**

Does the ork player that buys space marine vehicles feel bad because they are not using them as space marines? is that a dis-service?
For BaC I got 2 sets to start my Sons of Horus. I am keeping the board tiles to make a large zone mortalis board. I do not feel bad at all for doing this. to paraphrase Cartman "IT'S MY MODELS I DO WHAT I WANT!"

**=Angel=**

Imagine Tesla produced a box package- it contained a Tesla Roadster and a ticket to enter their brand new Electric Car racing event somewhere you have never heard of or care to go.

It is marketed as an eRacer starter kit and costs 3000 dollarydoos.

Would you begrudge people who bought the box, used the car and did not compete in the race?

**Erik_Morkai**

I think they are smart. Pretty sexy too.

Each morning I look at one in the mirror and damn is he handsome. I am no expert but I can spot awesomeness when I see it.

**wuestenfux**

Vaktathi wrote:
People actually cared about the boardgame?

I don't know anyone that bought it for the "boardgame", the "boardgame" was there as a marketing freebie to help drive sales of the models, and GW will probably be the first to tell you that.

The board game as such is totally uninteresting.

**JamesY**

Erik_Morkai wrote:
I think they are smart. Pretty sexy too.

Each morning I look at one in the mirror and damn is he handsome. I am no expert but I can spot awesomeness when I see it.

Same. I bought one copy and got a second for Christmas, split a third with a friend. I've now got a space marine company, some cellophane wrapped cardboard tiles and dice I'll never use. No interest in the game at all.

**gwarsh41**

They are just as bad as the people who bought it just for the rules?

This is a strange thread, people get offended for strange reasons.

**Nevelon**

gwarsh41 wrote:
This is a strange thread, people get offended for strange reasons.

I find that offensive!

jk.

**wuestenfux**

Its a pretty legal question.
I guess GW tried to get new gamers (aka painters and collectors) into the system.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

I bought two just for the models as a cheap way into 30, and will probably buy more down the road, just for more armies.

I have no interest in the board game and had no interest in it when they said it would be a board game. The tiles are nice though, I'll give them that.

**Rosebuddy**

The basic point of BaC is to provide 30K-appropriate marines in plastic for a lower price than FW does, so that more people will give it a try and maybe pick up some resin upgrade kits or a tank or two that they otherwise wouldn't (or dreadnought weapons!). The boardgame, whether it's decent or not, is simply a way of selling the set to people who won't play 30K anyway.

It's pretty clever, really. Even if I would like just a set of plastic miniatures and skip the cost of the board and cards and such, it makes some sense for GW to do this.