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Just Dave wrote:

blood reaper wrote:Like the Mandrakes and the Ravager , both look aswome but i refuse to place that "sail" on it.

Refuse to place the sail on the raider too?
An extra "2D6 movement says no.

Is it a Raider upgrade?
Just wondering if you've gotten a peek at the Dex.

Pen≥Sword wrote:Oh man Urien has been buuusy. I honestly can't wait to see Drazhar's new stats. He was a combat monster in the old Dex and if the rumors about Lelith are true...

What's sad is Drazhar's usefulness was all but nerfed near the end of 3rd edition as they tried to streamline the CC rules.

I for one will not be putting the sail on my raiders... instead I'll be building even BIGGER sails!!! Those litttle dinky things just don't do the design justice!

Pen≥Sword wrote:

Just Dave wrote:

blood reaper wrote:Like the Mandrakes and the Ravager , both look aswome but i refuse to place that "sail" on it.

Refuse to place the sail on the raider too?
An extra "2D6 movement says no.

Is it a Raider upgrade?
Just wondering if you've gotten a peek at the Dex.

Its mentioned on the GW site, along with some remarks on lelith's abilities.

chaos0xomega wrote:I for one will not be putting the sail on my raiders... instead I'll be building even BIGGER sails!!! Those litttle dinky things just don't do the design justice!

I'm not thinking bigger Sails, just more of them. The large one center w/ small ones fore and aft of it. With one of the DE hanging on yelling, "HEY! You looking at my Junk!"

Thanks, just googled him. How do you get the box up showing what someone else wrote?

Rymafyr wrote:

Pen≥Sword wrote:Oh man Urien has been buuusy. I honestly can't wait to see Drazhar's new stats. He was a combat monster in the old Dex and if the rumors about Lelith are true...

What's sad is Drazhar's usefulness was all but nerfed near the end of 3rd edition as they tried to streamline the CC rules.

I've used with a fair amount of success (mostly against combat 'elite armies), but paying the points for almost 4 incubi for one always hurts.

Yay, the Hellion's rocket sleds look really cool. Green goblin stormboyz are a go.

Check out pic of Humuenculi, Ravanger and Mandrakes at GW website:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=13200009a

joker8911 wrote:Thanks, just googled him. How do you get the box up showing what someone else wrote?

There is a "quote" function above each post, click and see what happens

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Phototoxin wrote:Convertible from flagellants, dark elves and greenstuff?

Uh, what exactly are you asking about being convertible from "flagellants, dark elves, and green stuff"? Mandrakes? Because if that's the case, then no. The little robed part would be a pain in the ass to convert from being cloth(even raggedy cloth) to stitched together flesh.

Pen≥Sword wrote:

Rymafyr wrote:

Pen≥Sword wrote:Oh man Urien has been buuusy. I honestly can't wait to see Drazhar's new stats. He was a combat monster in the old Dex and if the rumors about Lelith are true...

What's sad is Drazhar's usefulness was all but nerfed near the end of 3rd edition as they tried to streamline the CC rules.

I've used with a fair amount of success (mostly against combat 'elite armies), but paying the points for almost 4 incubi for one always hurts.

Ya, don't get me wrong, I used him constantly in 3rd. It was a nice alternative to not taking a 25pt shadow field since he could switch places at any time with the Lord. But once you were able to have wounds spill over 2" from those models in base to base, that skill was useless.

joker8911 wrote:Thanks, just googled him. How do you get the box up showing what someone else wrote?

never mind just figured it.

Kanluwen wrote:Uh, what exactly are you asking about being convertible from "flagellants, dark elves, and green stuff"? Mandrakes? Because if that's the case, then no. The little robed part would be a pain in the ass to convert from being cloth(even raggedy cloth) to stitched together flesh.

Not to mention the Mandrake models are fantastic.
Based on the prices we've seen as well I'm sure it would be cheaper to just buy the actual models.

joker8911 wrote:

joker8911 wrote:Thanks, just googled him. How do you get the box up showing what someone else wrote?

never mind just figured it.

also, just quote=insert name will do it too, should you want to quote an outside source such as GW...

Rymafyr wrote:

Pen≥Sword wrote:

Rymafyr wrote:

Pen≥Sword wrote:Oh man Urien has been buuusy. I honestly can't wait to see Drazhar's new stats. He was a combat monster in the old Dex and if the rumors about Lelith are true...

What's sad is Drazhar's usefulness was all but nerfed near the end of 3rd edition as they tried to streamline the CC rules.

I've used with a fair amount of success (mostly against combat 'elite armies), but paying the points for almost 4 incubi for one always hurts.

Ya, don't get me wrong, I used him constantly in 3rd. It was a nice alternative to not taking a 25pt shadow field since he could switch places at any time with the Lord. But once you were able to have wounds spill over 2" from those models in base to base, that skill was useless.

Especially with the new 'retinue' rules.

Urien looks freaky...since when did he have 4 arms, well i guess 4 arms are better then two.

Farmer wrote: Urien looks freaky...since when did he have 4 arms, well i guess 4 arms are better then two.

That, and he seems to be missing a certain special box. Not that it was worth anything anyways.

More attacks in combat? Lets hope he still has auto-wound on all his weapons!

Got to love the auto hit, auto wound, random AP Destructor

Oshova

And keep saying to myself - you are a ork modeler, you are a ork modeler...

This is unfair... That Raider model is awesome, and i will buy it anyway...

Oh, GW is pre-ordering it, there is full pics of the sprues on their site, and Wayland games sell it with 20% off...

The Mandrakes have a cleary relation to dark elfs from D&D and WoW, that is inegable, they are elves lol. Those black skins and white hair is to much drow, NICE =D

The only thing that make me sad is those Wytches, i expected something more female... Anyway, with the Warriors + Wytches sprues it will look nice at the end.

PS: there is nothing wrong if the mandrake looks exactly like the daemonhunters of WoW, Blizzard stole a lot more from GW (Marines, Zergs, WoW orcs).

Pen≥Sword wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Uh, what exactly are you asking about being convertible from "flagellants, dark elves, and green stuff"? Mandrakes? Because if that's the case, then no. The little robed part would be a pain in the ass to convert from being cloth(even raggedy cloth) to stitched together flesh.

Not to mention the Mandrake models are fantastic.
Based on the prices we've seen as well I'm sure it would be cheaper to just buy the actual models.

Probably would be.

Hell, the box of Incubi has far more options, and is cheaper than Mengil's Manhide Flayers from the WHFB Dark Elf line by almost $20.

Amaya wrote:Is it just me or is everything really priced low?

"Low"? Not as I see it.

It's 10 Warriors / Wyches for $25 USD, 5 Incubi for $30 USD.

Why, I remember back when they were 20 Warriors for $25, and that was only if you didn't manage to get your friends to give them to you for FREE!

Priced the same as Guardsmen (which I find to be rather exorbitant), the Warriors are arguably worth the $2.40 each, but I just don't like the Wyches.

At $6 each, I think the Incubi are fairly priced, if a bit limited in pose. It's a pity they're not plastic. If they were plastic, and Troops, at $4.50 each, I'd actually consider buying some.

JohnHwangDD wrote: If they were plastic, and Troops, at $4.50 each, I'd actually consider buying some.

No, you wouldn't, because the universe would have imploded.

Then I guess I'd have to wait until 2012.

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:And keep saying to myself - you are a ork modeler, you are a ork modeler...

This is unfair... That Raider model is awesome, and i will buy it anyway...

Nonsense. It isn't unfair. It's conversion fodder for your great green army.

Wouldn't putting a sail on a trukk make it 50% more likely to actually be mobile? Add some grot riggers handing off it...

You see dark eldar sailing around on a raider. I see orks sliding around on a raider mounted on the back of a flat-bed trailer, pulled by oxen...

Farmer wrote: Urien looks freaky...since when did he have 4 arms, well i guess 4 arms are better then two.

Somewhere in Commorragh there's a man waking up in a bathtub full of ice water, who has no arms.

Kanluwen wrote:

Kurgash wrote:Anyone actually read the fluff parts of the codex yet? Any absolute horror stories akin to NecronxDante?

Get the hell over the Necrons+Blood Angels ignoring each other in the face of a shared enemy. Seriously. It's waaaaaay past time to move the feth on past that one bit of fluff, which quite possibly could be an indicator of the way Necron fluff is going to progress(to where the Lords and Necrons proper behave more independently than they did in the past).

It's not your army...you wouldn't understand It would be like having Dark Elves and High Elves team up to destroy a Chaos Warband then leave each other alone after the battle.

Kurgash wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Kurgash wrote:Anyone actually read the fluff parts of the codex yet? Any absolute horror stories akin to NecronxDante?

Get the hell over the Necrons+Blood Angels ignoring each other in the face of a shared enemy. Seriously. It's waaaaaay past time to move the feth on past that one bit of fluff, which quite possibly could be an indicator of the way Necron fluff is going to progress(to where the Lords and Necrons proper behave more independently than they did in the past).

It's not your army...you wouldn't understand It would be like having Dark Elves and High Elves team up to destroy a Chaos Warband then leave each other alone after the battle.

They didn't team up to begin with. How is this so bloody complicated? Dante wasn't hugging his BFF Lord Shinyskull while they skipped and frolicked, smiting Tyranids left and right.

They fought the same enemy. They ignored each other afterwards, presumably because they didn't have any contact between each other during the course of it.

I mean, you know that the Romans and the Gallic tribes both, under your ideas of "team ups", fought the Huns right?

That sure as hell didn't make them allies.

Kurgash wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Kurgash wrote:Anyone actually read the fluff parts of the codex yet? Any absolute horror stories akin to NecronxDante?

Get the hell over the Necrons+Blood Angels ignoring each other in the face of a shared enemy. Seriously. It's waaaaaay past time to move the feth on past that one bit of fluff, which quite possibly could be an indicator of the way Necron fluff is going to progress(to where the Lords and Necrons proper behave more independently than they did in the past).

It's not your army...you wouldn't understand It would be like having Dark Elves and High Elves team up to destroy a Chaos Warband then leave each other alone after the battle.

And then have an [CENSORED] with [CENSORED], written by C.S.Goto.


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Kanluwen wrote:They didn't team up to begin with. How is this so bloody complicated? Dante wasn't hugging his BFF Lord Shinyskull while they skipped and frolicked, smiting Tyranids left and right.

Given the fact that Space Marines are PROGRAMED to be Genocidal Maniacs and Necrons are OMNICIDAL maniacs, this is pretty much the same as hugging his BFF Lord Shinyskull while they skipped and frolicked, smiting Tyranids left and right.

I wonder how that raider will look with big mag wheels, a boiler-looking engine mounted to the back, and a crap ton of orks and grots hanging off the side...