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Was looking over the new models in the Dark Eldar army section and after looking at Drazhar I noticed they changed his description up a bit. He was referred to as being "taller and more lithe" than other Incubi. And his weapon(s) name has been changed from the Disemboweler Blades to "demiklaives".

Not much but I wonder if that means the effects will change... (okay well that's a given)

Demiklaives were just the normal incubi weapon I thought they said :(

JohnHwangDD wrote:How come the Mandrake has no mouth?

According Jes original sketch, they have "shifting features, sometimes no mouth or eye, obscure by hair."

I guess some of the other models must have a mouth but are eyeless; it might represent the vast amount of warp energy flowing through their bodies and mutating them constantly, though not radically due to their natural resistance.

This... This actually exists?

Wow, I'm late.

Those models are really nice looking. A lot of people say the Raider looks weird, but I actually like the design a lot. Seems nice and "unnatural." It's villainous, but it's not just covered in spikes/skulls. Congrats, DE fans!

Nvs wrote:Demiklaives were just the normal incubi weapon I thought they said :(

Really? I thought it was just Klaive. Like a knife and... glaive.

Well, I've officially taken the plunge:

Codex
1 Archon
1 Wych Squad
2 Incubi Sets
2 Warrior Squads
4 Raiders
2 Reaver Jetbike Squads

I'll probably order 3 ravagers and some Mandrakes when they release as well.

AlexHolker wrote:
Somewhere in Commorragh there's a man waking up in a bathtub full of ice water, who has no arms.

I really like the Urien mini. I normally avoid metal models now, but I'll have to get this one. Compare the way they've done his skin mask with the Archon from the original range to see how far the DE have come.

As a couple of people have observed, the Mandrakes are very derivative of WoW (it's mostly the long white hair and blank faces), but if Blizzard was an inspiration for the new DE than that's not a bad thing. Anything that gets them away from the crude S&M outfits of the previous version is an improvement.

eNvY wrote:I'll probably order 3 ravagers and some Mandrakes when they release as well.

I'd hold up on filling all HS with one thing. Some of the other HS options are shaping up to look pretty tasty...


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Tailgunner wrote: Compare the way they've done his skin mask with the Archon from the original range to see how far the DE have come.

I think the old Urien model also had a skin mask...

Tailgunner wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:
Somewhere in Commorragh there's a man waking up in a bathtub full of ice water, who has no arms.

I really like the Urien mini. I normally avoid metal models now, but I'll have to get this one. Compare the way they've done his skin mask with the Archon from the original range to see how far the DE have come.

As a couple of people have observed, the Mandrakes are very derivative of WoW (it's mostly the long white hair and blank faces), but if Blizzard was an inspiration for the new DE than that's not a bad thing. Anything that gets them away from the crude S&M outfits of the previous version is an improvement.

Well I think Urien has always had that skin mask. What I notice about him the most is his ears. But I agree the old Archon model was horrendous.

Tailgunner wrote:]
As a couple of people have observed, the Mandrakes are very derivative of WoW (it's mostly the long white hair and blank faces), but if Blizzard was an inspiration for the new DE than that's not a bad thing. Anything that gets them away from the crude S&M outfits of the previous version is an improvement.

Granted I've not played WoW for awhile, but what in that game has long white hair and blank faces? The only thing that I can think of that the Mandrakes are derivative of would be faceless Drow with Illidan's tattoos.

Pen≥Sword wrote:the old Archon model

a.k.a. Princess Bananafingers.

Archonate wrote:

Pen≥Sword wrote:the old Archon model

a.k.a. Princess Bananafingers.

I don't mind the claw as much as that faace. "Duuuurrrr!!"
I remember seeing it when I was starting Dark Eldar. My Archon has been converted since day 1.

Archonate wrote:

Pen≥Sword wrote:the old Archon model

a.k.a. Princess Bananafingers.

That's Sir Princess Bananafingers to you, so hah!



That Archon really is an ugly model (And I've seen it on the game table). The new one is a bit Saurony, but it's miles ahead of the old one.

eNvY wrote:Well, I've officially taken the plunge:

Codex
1 Archon
1 Wych Squad
2 Incubi Sets
2 Warrior Squads
4 Raiders
2 Reaver Jetbike Squads

I'll probably order 3 ravagers and some Mandrakes when they release as well.

Yeah, I've thrown in an order for Lelith, the Codex, and a box each of Wyches and Reavers. My contribution to the "Make GW Realize That Xenos Releases Can Work" fund.

Urien is cool.

I think the mandrake models are the coolest DE models I've seen.

The hellion with the corn rows? Totally needs a heads swap to make it decent.

GG

Archonate wrote:

eNvY wrote:I'll probably order 3 ravagers and some Mandrakes when they release as well.

I'd hold up on filling all HS with one thing. Some of the other HS options are shaping up to look pretty tasty....

This is true, but it's also looking like the Flyers aren't going to have any models.

I want all of these models...

Now...

eNvY wrote:Well, I've officially taken the plunge:

Codex
1 Archon
1 Wych Squad
2 Incubi Sets
2 Warrior Squads
4 Raiders
2 Reaver Jetbike Squads

This looks like a good start to a DE force. I might just get that myself... "eNvY Pattern Dark Eldar Starter Army."

I think that the new archon should at least have had the option for the flayed skin mask, that was pretty cool

Pen≥Sword wrote:

Nvs wrote:Demiklaives were just the normal incubi weapon I thought they said :(

Really? I thought it was just Klaive. Like a knife and... glaive.

Yeah, I think it's just the Klavex that can have a Demiklaive. Edit: Incubi have Klaives, not Demiklaives - it's posted on GW's blurb about them.

And as soon as I noticed the pre-orders were up (6:30 in the morning on 10/05), I clicked Add to Cart on the Codex. I won't be playing DE, but I will certainly need to know how to bring their sails burning to the ground all around me.


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Kroothawk wrote:

4.) As the specialty item is a representation of the warp portal, someone over at Warseer pointd out that we might see them in the background from the warrior box art:

Maybe. It is in the background of -every- box so far. Looks more like the top of a minaret or something, though:

Being an Australian, I won't be ordering off GW.

grak wrote:
Codex £17.50 / $29
Reavers £21 / $34.75
Raider £20 / $33
Incubi £18 / $29.75
Warriors £15 / $24.75
Wyches £15 / $24.75
Archon £8 / $15
Lelith £8 / $15

For 'us' aussies, Codex $48 Aud or $46 USD/29 GBP...
Reavers are $58....
Raider $53....
Incubi $50....
Warriors $41
Wyches $41
Archon $25
Lelith $25

Oh yeah and the DE prisioners are $8 USD $17 Aud... it's about a 66.6% (damn always knew GW was The Beast) mark-up on everything else, their not even decent enough to make it consitent across the board.

Gw can shaft up.

How do LGSs survive in Australia? I can't imagine anyone not shopping on-line with all the free shipping options now.

While all these new models are very impressive I must admit I'm a bit depressed they haven't shown any hint of new jungle trees. It just isn't a proper DE release without some of those somewhere.

What would be an average monthly payment in Oz? Because if you guys make 5000$AUD per month I don't see the problem

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Tunnel Rat wrote:What do you suspect they'll put in the new Battleforce set?.

Assuming there even is a new BattleForce, I'd suspect that it would have 10 Warriors, 10 Wyches, 1 Raider and 3 Reaver Jetbikes.

Battleforces are around 45-50 pounds.

I see that list as being a bit pricy for it, even though I would love it.

Warriors and Wyches @ 15 pounds each, and Raiders & box 'o Jetbikes @ 20 pounds each.

70 odd pounds value there. Though if they sold it at 45-50 pounds, I would buy it. IMMEDIATELY.




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Erasoketa wrote:What would be an average monthly payment in Oz? Because if you guys make 5000$AUD per month I don't see the problem

Some of us do make that much. I do, though I'm saying that to show I'm not speaking out of my ass, not because I'm thinking I'm super cool.

Average incomes around 45-50k PA.

But its still insane pricing with the AUD at 96 usc. Why would I ever buy from GW just to artifically inflate the profit it makes?

lords2001 wrote:

Erasoketa wrote:What would be an average monthly payment in Oz? Because if you guys make 5000$AUD per month I don't see the problem

Some of us do make that much. I do, though I'm saying that to show I'm not speaking out of my ass, not because I'm thinking I'm super cool.

Average incomes around 45-50k PA.

But its still insane pricing with the AUD at 96 usc. Why would I ever buy from GW just to artifically inflate the profit it makes?

If you can get them in a webstore by one third of the retail price... the choice is clear

However I do about 17000€ per year, and I consider myself lucky given the situation. That's about 24000$AUD. If you do the maths I think we are in a quite similar point with the prices.

I can buy in Maelstrom a 19'50€ DE warriors unit for 15€.

Not seeing the mandrakes, Hellions, Ravager or Urien.

What gives???

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Not seeing the mandrakes, Hellions, Ravager or Urien.

What gives???

2nd wave.

Found the pics now. I apologise for my plankistitude in missing them earlier.

I love that new shot of the Raider looking at it from the front end. That's a really impressive profile (er, what do you call a profile from the front?).

Urien Rakarth - I like that his model exists, but even if I did play DE I probably wouldn't get it. I've never been interested in Haemonculi, but he finally takes it in a direction that is more exciting than "lumpy old men with syringes".

Mandrakes - As someone who has done a couple of martial arts that actually use Hakama, I'm skeptical of their inclusion conceptually. But their execution really can't be argued with.

Hellion - I'm trying to figure out what I don't like about it. I think basically it's a set of really fantastic bits that just aren't fit together well. There's nothing wrong with the skyboard, the weapon is ace, and that belt-hook is a sweet touch. The arms are a bit muscly, but not as bad IMHO as has been made out. The problem is the rider's posture- the rider doesn't look like they are standing on a floating platform, they don't look like they're holding a weapon with intent to actually use it, there's no sense that they're looking at anything in particular and they don't look like they're in motion at all. The whole thing may as well be a marble statue firmly rooted to the ground.

But then luckily, if the Hellions are plastic then this problem is easily solved. A bit of repositioning will easily make a dynamic model out of this.

And if they are plastic, then I forsee that skyboard being adapted to many craftworld eldar vehicle/jetbike conversions.

Ravager - Those side turret mounts look dangerously flimsy, but you just can't deny the awesome bulk of its profile (again, from the front?) The Raider base is looking more and more to me like the kit that can do no wrong.