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You'll need to go combo with Destro to get much done, but with the magicka regen perks you get from the Resto tree, it shouldn't be too difficult until you start becoming outnumbered, and you have to switch to dual-casting destruction spells or dual casting healing spells to outheal what damage you take.
Resto and Conjuration could potentially do well, but some enemies have the ability to take control of your summoned minions.
Points spread through resto, conjuration and destro would create a balance, but you'd likely not need resto at all at that point unless you go solely for the regen perks.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
KingCracker wrote:Hows the Restoration in this game? In Oblivion I started off using a resto only mage, and quickly became UBER powerful with the drain health spells in that game. Could you potentially pull the same thing off in Skyrim?
I don't see any drain health spells under Restoration for Skyrim.
Absorb Health was a Resto spell in Oblivion, I don't think it's in Skyrim.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
I just wanted to drop in and share a quick story with you all.
I picked up Skyrim a couple of nights ago. I was having a blast - got my dragons, got my Norse-inspired guys, got my roman-inspired guys, it's all good. Killing wolves in the forest, chilling in Riverwood, going to Whiterun. Then I get the quests that send me into Bleak Falls Barrows.
Goddamn Bleak Falls Barrows.
It's horrifying. I go up against, what, 3 bandits at a time? They seem to be able to knock 1/3 of my HP off in one hit, and their arrows must have been fired from some sort of magical Beretta .50. I persevere, and eventually get into the actual dungeon. But I literally cannot get past the Bandit in the snake/eagle/whale room. The guy's able to knock me down in 2 hits.
Now, I'm frustrated. I start over, Mage this time. Yum-tee-dum, wolves, Riverwood, Whiterun, Barrows. I'm setting everything on fire, and I manage to kill the Bandit that was frustrating me by a combination of duel-wielding Flames, running away, drinking potions, repeat. Puzzle, done. Spider? Spent a half-hour sniping the thing with Firebolt. Beat the guy in the web down with my bound sword because he was running away from me.
Then? The Druaga. Aaaaaaaugh. I figured I could run right past them and just take the damage from running straight through the swinging-axe trap - only to discover that there's more on the other side.
I'm angry now. I'm supposed to spend 300+ hours on this? Holy crap! I'm pondering whether or not I should return the game, maybe pick up Revelations instead.
Fast forward to tonight. I'm messing around in the settings - changing some light. When I notice a difficulty setting.
Its setting? Master.
So, with the difficulty properly adjusted, I've been enjoying the game. I'll probably go back to playing a warrior-esque class, even though this game does fulfill a life-long dream to be able to duel-wield fireballs.
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You must've changed it at some point, the default difficulty setting is Adept.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Well finshed the main quest at lvl 34 as a two sword nord
Spoiler:
really I don't know how a stealth or ranged class could finish kill the final boss really, his fire breath would have killed me in one go if I had not used potions
also
Spoiler:
killed off the dark brotherhood because they sent a couple of assasins after me and I ain't putting up with that gak
I will get the patch when it comes out.
I had thought about skipping it, so I could exploit the glitches in the game.
But really, on my main guy I never exploited any glitches (unless you count the one where you can get free training from a follower by takeing your gold back out of their inventory). And when I did exploit a few on another character I didn't 'get no' satisfaction from it.
I used the leveling glitch on one character to make him a better at sneaking, I figure I'll use him for the theives and Dark brotherhood quests only.
Well, full Daedric (sans shield) gives 468 with all the armour increasing perks from Heavy Armour, and that's unrefined. Legendary Daedric Armour with Fortify Heavy Armour enchants on stuff could very likely boost it to those sorts of levels.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Avatar 720 wrote:Well, full Daedric (sans shield) gives 468 with all the armour increasing perks from Heavy Armour, and that's unrefined. Legendary Daedric Armour with Fortify Heavy Armour enchants on stuff could very likely boost it to those sorts of levels.
That's what I have (Sans Shield), and with a 86 (70 base) Heavy Armor, I'm only at 400.
Every Normal Man Must Be Tempted At Times To Spit On His Hands, Hoist That Black Flag, And Begin Slitting Throats.
Hmm, I accidentally included the shield, but point still stands.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Avatar 720 wrote:Legendary Daedric Armour with Fortify Heavy Armour enchants on stuff could very likely boost it to those sorts of levels.
Yup. By combining alchemy, enchanting, and smithing, you can become almost invincible. My 2h character has 1700 armor rating and his greatsword does 608 damage. And that's before potions of fortify heavy armor/ two handed.
There are some who walk until their legs fail them and they fall to the ground. I find that respectable.
Then there are those who drag themselves further. I find that admirable.
1) I leveled up, saved, and then came back to the game to find out that my weapon's damage went from 13 to 11.
2) "Haha, killed a dragon, I'm a boss."... "OMG fething bear is invincible!".
Is it just me or does it seem silly that you can kill the first dragon but then bears can kill you in two hits? Also, the ice troll on the part of the main quest when you have to see the gray-beards killed me three times(each time I forgot to save it while I was on the steps so I had to restart the steps each time) before I just decided to stun him with a shout and then book it to the temple. I'm lvl 7, am I doing something wrong?
halonachos wrote:A couple of things that I've had issues with;
1) I leveled up, saved, and then came back to the game to find out that my weapon's damage went from 13 to 11.
2) "Haha, killed a dragon, I'm a boss."... "OMG fething bear is invincible!".
Is it just me or does it seem silly that you can kill the first dragon but then bears can kill you in two hits? Also, the ice troll on the part of the main quest when you have to see the gray-beards killed me three times(each time I forgot to save it while I was on the steps so I had to restart the steps each time) before I just decided to stun him with a shout and then book it to the temple. I'm lvl 7, am I doing something wrong?
Ice Trolls are level 22. So no, you did nothing wrong.
And yes, I hate bears as well. They swarm you life fething Skeevers.
Every Normal Man Must Be Tempted At Times To Spit On His Hands, Hoist That Black Flag, And Begin Slitting Throats.
You are likely clad in nothing but rags, and need to get something better, Halon.
I suggest that, when fighting Bears/Ice Trolls/Giants, you try to stutter them as much as possible, either with a power attack or pommel-bash.
Dance around them and select your hits carefully, and you will come away with a slain beast relatively unscathed.
So, who is siding with the Stormcloaks and who is siding with the Imperials? I'm finding it extremely hard to side with the Imperials at all, and see them as little more as a puppet-kingdom only living because the Aldmeri Dominion allow it to be so.
Skyrim, on its own, under the rule of a immensely powerful Ulfric Stormcloak as High King, would have a better chance at co-existing or warring with the Aldmeri.
Chowderhead wrote:Stormcloaks, because Imperial armor is gak, and I wanted a bear hat.
Stormcloaks just seemed right... ya know. I'm playing as a Nord, and it makes more sense for my guy to be coming into Skyrim to help liberate his land, rather than to be running from Imperial scum...
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Chowderhead wrote:Stormcloaks, because Imperial armor is gak, and I wanted a bear hat.
Stormcloaks just seemed right... ya know. I'm playing as a Nord, and it makes more sense for my guy to be coming into Skyrim to help liberate his land, rather than to be running from Imperial scum...
I was a Nord, too.
It also didn't help that the first Imperial camp I walked into everyone started attacking me.
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Every Normal Man Must Be Tempted At Times To Spit On His Hands, Hoist That Black Flag, And Begin Slitting Throats.
Stormcloaks, because as good as the stability the Empire would bring, the Aldmeri are too much of a threat to bow to them.
Hell, the Dragonborn could probably take them out (yes, all of them) single-handedly with Storm Call.
There are some who walk until their legs fail them and they fall to the ground. I find that respectable.
Then there are those who drag themselves further. I find that admirable.
Karon wrote:You are likely clad in nothing but rags, and need to get something better, Halon.
I'm in steel armor with steel everything and my armor is at 100, I just don't get how the dragon could set me on fire twice and do less damage than the bear. So about that ice troll, am I supposed to wait to be a higher level before I go to see the gray beards or what? I already got past it by just running away, but it seems odd to have such a high level baddie that early in the main story.
I'm going with the Imperials on this, I feel bad for them losing some of the other areas they had conquered.
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Avatar 720 wrote:Well, full Daedric (sans shield) gives 468 with all the armour increasing perks from Heavy Armour, and that's unrefined. Legendary Daedric Armour with Fortify Heavy Armour enchants on stuff could very likely boost it to those sorts of levels.
That's what I have (Sans Shield), and with a 86 (70 base) Heavy Armor, I'm only at 400.
Easy: get 100 enchanting, enchant as many things as you can with +25% getter upgrade from smithing, then make your armor set while drinkinga blacksmith +50% potion, my armor plate alone has near to 600 armor rating now.
Then, for the hell of it, enchant everything with dual enchants, throwing +heavy armor skill and dmg buffs everywhere.
guys, im probably gonna get it very soon and have a few questions:
1. Whats best race/"class" together, e.g redguard battlemage.
2. Best difficulty to start at?
3. Is it relatively easy?
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KingCracker wrote:Hows the Restoration in this game? In Oblivion I started off using a resto only mage, and quickly became UBER powerful with the drain health spells in that game. Could you potentially pull the same thing off in Skyrim?
I don't see any drain health spells under Restoration for Skyrim.
Avatar 720 wrote:Absorb Health was a Resto spell in Oblivion, I don't think it's in Skyrim.
Awwww dammit. Well thats a little bit of a bummer. Oh well, guess there wont be any UBER healers that soul suck things to death. Many thanks....er....Clint Eastwood
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KingCracker wrote:Hows the Restoration in this game? In Oblivion I started off using a resto only mage, and quickly became UBER powerful with the drain health spells in that game. Could you potentially pull the same thing off in Skyrim?
I don't see any drain health spells under Restoration for Skyrim.
Avatar 720 wrote:Absorb Health was a Resto spell in Oblivion, I don't think it's in Skyrim.
Awwww dammit. Well thats a little bit of a bummer. Oh well, guess there wont be any UBER healers that soul suck things to death. Many thanks....er....Clint Eastwoods
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I managed to tear myself away from the game for 4 hours to watch the last 2 weeks of Walking Dead and Hell on Wheels.. I had to, my DVR is almost full :(
But I got up to level 40, I got sneak maxed out now, shadow warrior perk really comes in handy especially if you're a sneaky archer like me. I got blacksmithing up to around 70 so I can improve magic weapons now, I won't be crafting stuff though, I don't have the perks points to spare since I want to save them for 1handed and archery. I'm glad the max level is 80, I always thought it was 50.
Got through the DB main quests, I read somewhere that you could marry the DB leader girl, but I guess I can't now. I ended up marrying that big nord lady from riften, I had to go find her lost sword for her first. And now, some guy that always followed her around in Riften is stuck in my house with her too, and he's always telling me she's upset because the city is so bad (Riften, even though we live somewhere else). I wonder if I can murder him and stuff him in one of my chests? What's he doing with my wife while I'm out a-questing for days on end?
I've been kinda all over the place with quests, just doing whatever quests I see nearby on the map. I think now I'm just gonna focus on 1 storyline at a time, I'll probably finish the thieves guild stuff next since I'm prolly about half way done. I've been having a lot of trouble with the silver hand guys on companion quests. I guess my daggers and arrows don't cut through their armor very good :( But I am loving my life-sucking double ebony swords. And I got myself a soul-sucking ebony dagger and glass bow
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JohnnoM wrote:guys, im probably gonna get it very soon and have a few questions:
1. Whats best race/"class" together, e.g redguard battlemage.
2. Best difficulty to start at?
3. Is it relatively easy?
1) There are no classes, you just develop skills. Race specific abilities are mostly resistance to some type of damage and an active ability.
2) What you are comfortable with. the default is ok.
3) It isn't a walk in the park but its hardly impossable. Once you get the hang of the combat system you should do fine. fear bowmen and get a bow of your own.
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I married the shopkeeper's sister from Riverwood on my mage. Whenever I come home to our house in Whiterun, I keep finding that damn Bosmer who followed her around in RW sneaking around outside my house; I even caught him inside once.
It'd add a whole new level to the game if you could accuse your spouses of adultery.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Avatar 720 wrote:I married the shopkeeper's sister from Riverwood on my mage. Whenever I come home to our house in Whiterun, I keep finding that damn Bosmer who followed her around in RW sneaking around outside my house; I even caught him inside once.
It'd add a whole new level to the game if you could accuse your spouses of adultery.
You're a good man.
That elf would be nine times deader than a doornail if I caught him doing that to my wife.
Then again, my wife is a werewolf, so there's that.
There are some who walk until their legs fail them and they fall to the ground. I find that respectable.
Then there are those who drag themselves further. I find that admirable.
JohnnoM wrote:guys, im probably gonna get it very soon and have a few questions:
1. Whats best race/"class" together, e.g redguard battlemage.
2. Best difficulty to start at?
3. Is it relatively easy?
Can't help with classes since all I've played is my lizard thief/archer/assassin. Honestly, I don't think the racial stuff matters all that much and it's more about flavor and fluff if you're into that. The powers that races have share the same button on my PS3 controller as my shouts, so I pretty much never use my lizard HP regen power that I can only use once a day anyway. The water breathing comes in handy sometimes but I have yet to be anywhere where I really needed it. I would check out IGN or Gamespot and see which race has the bonus skill points on the skills you think you want to use most.
I've always played at the default (adept?) difficulty. I've had some tough fights, and got squashed by too many bad guys to count, but just remember to save often and learn from your mistakes.
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