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2018/04/07 15:47:40
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
I would bet you that with the current codex you will never see a more 'Custodes' army in the top 50? of a tournament the size of Adepticon then what Geoff brought. The army as a stand-alone will not function at a high level.
I can not agree more. And that's why people keep saying that Custodes is not a competitive army. They require allies (or be taken as allies to someone else) to have any success on the Sporthammer scene. They are just not in the same league as IG, DG, Eldar, Tyranids or new Necrons which are totally able to compete on their own.
2018/04/07 20:16:58
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
AstraVlad wrote: You can try Basilisks of course, but I'm not very impressed with them. I play IG as my main army and tried to utilise Basilisks (I like them aesthetically) but their performance in quite underwhelming. LRs with their ability to shoot twice easily outshine Basilisks in almost every possible situation.
What is your typical LR load out? I was lucky enough to be given two by a friend recently and have options.
2018/04/07 20:29:15
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
What is your typical LR load out? I was lucky enough to be given two by a friend recently and have options.
I mostly use basic LRBTs with Lascannon in a hull and 2 Heavy Bolters in sponsons. If I'm tight in points I change LC for another HB. Or if there are points to spare it can be a good idea to upgrade HBs to Plasma Cannons. It depends on the rest of your army and an enemy you are expecting to fight.
2018/04/07 20:56:21
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
So I am looking to get started with custodes, as I love the models and know they will be extremely powerful in my local meta. I am looking to buy
Valoris- to use as a shield captain but the model is too good to miss out on
2 boxes of custodian guard
2 boxes of vertus praetors
3 boxes of allarus terminators
To build this list:
Battalion
Shield captain on dawneagle jetbike, bolters, spear, WL superior creation, auric aquilis
Shield captain with castellan axe
3 custodian guard, spears
3 custodian guard, spears
3 custodian guard, spears
Vexilla praetor in allarus, vexilla magnifica, misericordia
8 allarus custodians, axes
5 jetbikes all bolters
~2000 (I figured it out earlier to be 2k exaxct I think)
I don't have points on me now but that's what I came up with earlier.
Tactics:
Put vexilla and termies in the air, deepstrike vexilla and use the teleport beacon for a 3 inch charge. These will smash in combat and afterward use unleash the lions to make them hard to focus properly. I don't need to use teleport beacon if I want other CP left, but it's nice.
Walk up everything else like normal with jetbikes and captain on one flank walk dudes on the other.
What do you think? Is it worth starting custodes?
Thanks for any help!
Automatically Appended Next Post: By the way, I do not want to have to run anything other than custodes and this list is for fun. Whilst I am not opposed to doing a pure bike list I do not want to. Thanks!
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/04/12 21:26:33
“Put vexilla and termies in the air, deepstrike vexilla and use the teleport beacon for a 3 inch charge. These will smash in combat and afterward use unleash the lions to make them hard."
The Vexilla has to be on the table at the start of the turn. I put mine by a bait unit.
UTL is situational and I I think you need at least five Allarus.
Bow down to Guilliman for he is our new God Emperor!
Martel - "Custodes are terrible in 8th. Good luck with them. They take all the problems of marines and multiply them."
"Lol, classic martel. 'I know it was strong enough to podium in the biggest tournament in the world but I refuse to acknowledge space marines are good because I can't win with them and it can't possibly be ME'."
DakkaDakka is really the place where you need anti-tank guns to kill basic dudes, because anything less isn't durable enough.
2018/04/12 23:07:41
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
The terminator Vexila can drop in near the bike captains and give them all +1 attack on turn 2 or 3 when they are in the thick of it. the magnifica hangs back with the troops defending them and helps the bikes on turn 1.
Termy captain picks one of the bike guys that looks like he wont get the first charge off so he can counterbop whatever goes for him.
Your only spending 1-3 command points (victor of blood games on relic bike if you want) at start so you have 6-4 for the rest of the game.
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2018/04/12 23:15:35
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
Bow down to Guilliman for he is our new God Emperor!
Martel - "Custodes are terrible in 8th. Good luck with them. They take all the problems of marines and multiply them."
"Lol, classic martel. 'I know it was strong enough to podium in the biggest tournament in the world but I refuse to acknowledge space marines are good because I can't win with them and it can't possibly be ME'."
DakkaDakka is really the place where you need anti-tank guns to kill basic dudes, because anything less isn't durable enough.
2018/04/14 09:36:56
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
UTL is situational and I I think you need at least five Allarus.
I have 8.
I am thinking of trying to fit in a single tank commander punisher with kurovs Aquila and brilliant strategist. This will get me more CP and some very nice anti infantry.
Cephalobeard wrote: I'm going to, as a bit of a meme, test a 10 man normal guard squad deep striking. I'll report how it does versus competitive lists once it's built up.
Don't deepstrike them near a Roboute Guilliman castle with 10 intercessors with stalker bolt rifles. It isn't pretty.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2018/04/14 19:34:02
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
Cephalobeard wrote: I'm going to, as a bit of a meme, test a 10 man normal guard squad deep striking. I'll report how it does versus competitive lists once it's built up.
I think if you’re doing a big squad it’s gotta be allarus to use their split stratagem.
2018/04/15 11:29:18
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
Brigade wastes points trying to fill slots and you don't need that much CP.
Why waste points on a Commisar.
The Battalions can't even run the CP battery since Primaris Psykers can take neither the Kurov's Aquilla nor Grand Strategist.
Switch 2 Psykers for Commanders so you can spread out the Aquilla and GS.
Drop the Commisar
Use the points to buy Mortars so you can atleast pretend to do something with the IG.
The answer to what Custodes to bring is always 'moar bikes'.
2018/04/15 23:48:31
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
Can confirm, blood angels are a wonderful ally for Custodes.
I've personally been using them with Scout bikes for additional chaff clearing, but until the FAQ my Vanguard of 3 assassins and a company commander and BA Battalion are mandatory with all my Custodes lists.
Cephalobeard wrote: Can confirm, blood angels are a wonderful ally for Custodes.
I've personally been using them with Scout bikes for additional chaff clearing, but until the FAQ my Vanguard of 3 assassins and a company commander and BA Battalion are mandatory with all my Custodes lists.
What do you think will change with the FAQ to make you want to switch up your list?
2018/04/16 01:20:18
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
No idea what will happen. I have several fallbacks, including dropping the soup detachment for a Custodes battalion, using more BA for Sanguinary guard backup, a list that literally uses like 30 scout bikes, etc.
All gonna depend on the FAQ.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Currently, the idea is to hard shift into an Outrider primary of 3 Captains and 3 Bike squads with BA backup.
I'm also testing, as above, a ten man custodian blob using the index rules for a Vexilla in the squad to see how much damage that can do.
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Cephalobeard wrote: Can confirm, blood angels are a wonderful ally for Custodes.
I've personally been using them with Scout bikes for additional chaff clearing, but until the FAQ my Vanguard of 3 assassins and a company commander and BA Battalion are mandatory with all my Custodes lists.
What do you think will change with the FAQ to make you want to switch up your list?
You might not be able to use Imperium or Chaos keywords when filling a detachment.
Bow down to Guilliman for he is our new God Emperor!
Martel - "Custodes are terrible in 8th. Good luck with them. They take all the problems of marines and multiply them."
"Lol, classic martel. 'I know it was strong enough to podium in the biggest tournament in the world but I refuse to acknowledge space marines are good because I can't win with them and it can't possibly be ME'."
DakkaDakka is really the place where you need anti-tank guns to kill basic dudes, because anything less isn't durable enough.
2018/04/16 04:02:26
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
Cephalobeard wrote: Can confirm, blood angels are a wonderful ally for Custodes.
I've personally been using them with Scout bikes for additional chaff clearing, but until the FAQ my Vanguard of 3 assassins and a company commander and BA Battalion are mandatory with all my Custodes lists.
What do you think will change with the FAQ to make you want to switch up your list?
You might not be able to use Imperium or Chaos keywords when filling a detachment.
I sincerly doubt that, it reeks of wish listing.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2018/04/16 14:37:58
Subject: Codex Adeptus Custodes: By His will alone
Cephalobeard wrote: Can confirm, blood angels are a wonderful ally for Custodes.
I've personally been using them with Scout bikes for additional chaff clearing, but until the FAQ my Vanguard of 3 assassins and a company commander and BA Battalion are mandatory with all my Custodes lists.
What do you think will change with the FAQ to make you want to switch up your list?
You might not be able to use Imperium or Chaos keywords when filling a detachment.
I sincerly doubt that, it reeks of wish listing.
It is a beta rule now.
Bow down to Guilliman for he is our new God Emperor!
Martel - "Custodes are terrible in 8th. Good luck with them. They take all the problems of marines and multiply them."
"Lol, classic martel. 'I know it was strong enough to podium in the biggest tournament in the world but I refuse to acknowledge space marines are good because I can't win with them and it can't possibly be ME'."
DakkaDakka is really the place where you need anti-tank guns to kill basic dudes, because anything less isn't durable enough.
