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 The Red Hobbit wrote:
xerxeskingofking wrote:
 The Red Hobbit wrote:
 cuda1179 wrote:
Dang it, dang it, dang it. I was hoping that with the leaked contents of the 30k box that our Contemptor would have gained a weapon option or two. Sadly it did not. We can keep our fingers crossed that they FAQ in the options when the new model arrives.

I must have missed that one, what weapons are being added to the FW Dreads?


None, but the preview showed what appeared to be the plastic contemptor but with a weapons fit not on the plastic kit, implying they were going to add extra guns to non relic contemptor (ie the version we have)

Oh neat, didn't know they were making plastic Contemptors. Well if mine ever break it'll be good to know there's an easier to work with plastic version available.


Are you guys talking about this? https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/SD4ta8J3ynGSQ5JW-846x621.jpg
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Why does a torn-up road sign wielded by a mutated alien/human hybrid cause more damage than a Guardian Spear?


Because in the grimdarkness of the future there is only damage 3 for hammer-looking weapons unless they're relics or on special characters? I'm just as confused as you are.
   
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artific3r wrote:
 The Red Hobbit wrote:
xerxeskingofking wrote:
 The Red Hobbit wrote:
 cuda1179 wrote:
Dang it, dang it, dang it. I was hoping that with the leaked contents of the 30k box that our Contemptor would have gained a weapon option or two. Sadly it did not. We can keep our fingers crossed that they FAQ in the options when the new model arrives.

I must have missed that one, what weapons are being added to the FW Dreads?


None, but the preview showed what appeared to be the plastic contemptor but with a weapons fit not on the plastic kit, implying they were going to add extra guns to non relic contemptor (ie the version we have)

Oh neat, didn't know they were making plastic Contemptors. Well if mine ever break it'll be good to know there's an easier to work with plastic version available.


Are you guys talking about this? https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/SD4ta8J3ynGSQ5JW-846x621.jpg


No, This is the one we are talking about (scroll down a bit). https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2021/07/warhammer-40k-rumors-horus-heresy-box-set-contents-price.html

It would have at least given us the options of a twin autocannon and a cyclone missile launcher. Frankly, with the Custodes shortcomings on long-range anti tank I would have welcomed the Cyclone launcher.

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Tiberias wrote:
 Thairne wrote:
We're closing in on 240 pages..
And this codex is vastly different from the one before.
So a new thread is in order imo.

I still maintain that captain Murderdeath is a good choice for now. You dont need a Blade Champion when everything is dead due to him first


Fair point about captain murderdeath, but the blade champion offers more consistency in that regard imo. AP4 and flat 3 dmg is just extremely valuable when you ignore invulns with the shadowkeepers Wl trait. Combine that with rerolling all wounds and MWs on 6s (with the additional peerless warrior Wl trait) for the best raw power against characters in our codex.


Also fair enough. I think the Bladechampion has more damage going for him whereas the Praetorian Plate Captain has Durability (which is not that important) but another type of consistency going for it. You can jump into any combat, so if you end up on the wrong flank to where you want him to be, just YEET over there! I thnk if you KNOW you'll not face -1D Characters, Id chose the captain. If you are not sure, Bladechampion is the way to go.

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What makes the praetorian plate cap so nasty is because he is not heroically intervening, so your opponent cannot attack him that first turn he pops in on a charger.

That comboed with Unstopable destroyer potentially letting him move 8" when he pops in around the flank of a larger unit (causing them to not be able to pile in where they want), means you really mess up the enemies plans.

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 Eihnlazer wrote:
What makes the praetorian plate cap so nasty is because he is not heroically intervening, so your opponent cannot attack him that first turn he pops in on a charger.

That comboed with Unstopable destroyer potentially letting him move 8" when he pops in around the flank of a larger unit (causing them to not be able to pile in where they want), means you really mess up the enemies plans.


True, allarus captain with praetorian plate is something that will probably see play.

You could put all of that in one glorious shadowkeeper list though:

-Pick Trajann as your warlord. He gets 2 WL traits.
-Pay 4CP to give 2 extra warlord traits, one victor of the blood games and one extra relic.
-Pick an Allarus Captain with praetorian plate and superior creation for a T6, 4++ and 5+++ chonky guy that can YEET himself across the battlefield.
-Pick a Blade Champ with Lockwarden and Peerless Warrior WL trait. Throw in the stasis oubilette for good measure and voila: you also have the deadliest generic character in the entire game.

Is all that worth 4cp? Probably not, but I'm so gonna do it anyway.

Edit: don't wanna go shadowkeepers? No problem, do the same thing but go emperors chosen and give your blade champ the Auric Paragon and Peerless Warrior WL trait for a 110p character that can mulch his way through basically any horde unit.
You can even spend 1 CP for the esteemed amalgam strat to put the horde mulcher blade champ into the dread host fighting style to give his hurricanis profile -2AP, which is huge.

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Balerion wrote:
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Rivener wrote:
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Are we the only faction in the game who's HQ choices are locked down to 1 per list? How many captains can you fit in a Space marine list, but we can only take 1 of each type?


It’s not 1 per army, it’s 1 of each type per detachment. That’s pretty liberal by Ork standards.


How many detachments do you plan on taking in a Custodes list? This isn't the Guard. It's a silly restriction given how Detachments work in the first place.

It's not that bad at all. We can take 3 different shield captains, trajann, valerian, knight Centura, aleya, blade master.

As also a DG player, when DG codex came out, we could take only 1 lord of death guard (that included daemon prince and even typhus) and malignant plaguecaster... you couldn't even fill the HQ slots in a battalion if my memory serves me right, until Faq allowed DPs alongside another lord of dg hq and plaguecaster.
As custodes, we are spoiled for choice compared to that.



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stratigo wrote:
Balerion wrote:
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Rivener wrote:
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Are we the only faction in the game who's HQ choices are locked down to 1 per list? How many captains can you fit in a Space marine list, but we can only take 1 of each type?


It’s not 1 per army, it’s 1 of each type per detachment. That’s pretty liberal by Ork standards.


How many detachments do you plan on taking in a Custodes list? This isn't the Guard. It's a silly restriction given how Detachments work in the first place.

It's not that bad at all. We can take 3 different shield captains, trajann, valerian, knight Centura, aleya, blade master.

As also a DG player, when DG codex came out, we could take only 1 lord of death guard (that included daemon prince and even typhus) and malignant plaguecaster... you couldn't even fill the HQ slots in a battalion if my memory serves me right, until Faq allowed DPs alongside another lord of dg hq and plaguecaster.
As custodes, we are spoiled for choice compared to that.



I mean it feths my for fun all bikes list

You can still go pure bikes if you really want. And with 1 troops unit tax, you can have 2 bikes caps in it too.
   
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I really want to know what the Custodes Fortification is. I want a giant Emperor statue.
   
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Balerion wrote:
stratigo wrote:
Balerion wrote:
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Rivener wrote:
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Are we the only faction in the game who's HQ choices are locked down to 1 per list? How many captains can you fit in a Space marine list, but we can only take 1 of each type?


It’s not 1 per army, it’s 1 of each type per detachment. That’s pretty liberal by Ork standards.


How many detachments do you plan on taking in a Custodes list? This isn't the Guard. It's a silly restriction given how Detachments work in the first place.

It's not that bad at all. We can take 3 different shield captains, trajann, valerian, knight Centura, aleya, blade master.

As also a DG player, when DG codex came out, we could take only 1 lord of death guard (that included daemon prince and even typhus) and malignant plaguecaster... you couldn't even fill the HQ slots in a battalion if my memory serves me right, until Faq allowed DPs alongside another lord of dg hq and plaguecaster.
As custodes, we are spoiled for choice compared to that.




I mean it feths my for fun all bikes list

You can still go pure bikes if you really want. And with 1 troops unit tax, you can have 2 bikes caps in it too.



you only get 19 bikes in one detachment since you can only take 1 captain and they capped bike squads at 6 now, and can't get any more bikes because of the rule of 3. Which is under 2k points.

The way to go around this is forgeworld bikes, but, mate, let me tell you, forgeworld bikes are some of the WORST product forgeworld has ever put out from a hobbyist perspective. Finicky, prone to bending, and extraordinarily difficult to put together. I would not recommend anyone get them.
   
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stratigo wrote:



you only get 19 bikes in one detachment since you can only take 1 captain and they capped bike squads at 6 now, and can't get any more bikes because of the rule of 3. Which is under 2k points.

The way to go around this is forgeworld bikes, but, mate, let me tell you, forgeworld bikes are some of the WORST product forgeworld has ever put out from a hobbyist perspective. Finicky, prone to bending, and extraordinarily difficult to put together. I would not recommend anyone get them.

The point is, you can still go pure bikes if you really want
   
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Thought I'd throw together a couple of lists to gauge whether I wanna get the new Combat Patrol box:

Trajann -170pts
Bike Cap -170pts
-tip of the spear -15pts
-salvo launcher -5pts
Blade Champion -110pts

Vexilla -105pts
Vexilla -105pts
Alluras -195pts

Guard -146pts
Guard -146pts
Guard -146pts
Guard -146pts

Bikes -255pts
-salvo launchers -15pts
Bikes -255pts
-salvo launchers -15pts

-1999pts


Trajann -170pts
Bike Cap -170pts
-tip of the spear -15pts
-salvo launcher -5pts
Sister HQ - 50pts

Vexilla -105pts
Vexilla -105pts
Alluras -260pts

Guard -146pts
Guard -146pts
Guard -146pts
Sisters -60pts
Sisters -60pts

Bikes -255pts
-salvo launchers -15pts
-misericordia -9pts
Bikes -255pts
-salvo launchers -15pts
-misericordia -9pts

-1996pts


The main decision to make here is whether I grab a bunch of Sisters or not for anti-psychic stuff but I kinda feel like any list that has psykers is just gonna mow down the T3 sisters before they get into range with their auras. The first list just goes heavy on the classic Trajann deathstar supported by some faster moving elements.

I'm also still on the fence about using dreadnoughts now since we can't get them re-rolls anymore and they're no longer protected by Vexillas.

Thoughts?

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the gist with sisters is less the anti psycher shenanigans, tthough that is nice
the main use for them is as cheap objective holders that can perform actions as well.
Something custodes REALLY struggled before.
And now they can do it with obsec and "for free" aka you dont give up elite slots.
For that reason alone,having 2 squads of prosecutors, is a good idea imo. Not more, because you want to minimize troops.

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btw there's a new thread now for the new codex might be best to post there
   
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Balerion wrote:
stratigo wrote:



you only get 19 bikes in one detachment since you can only take 1 captain and they capped bike squads at 6 now, and can't get any more bikes because of the rule of 3. Which is under 2k points.

The way to go around this is forgeworld bikes, but, mate, let me tell you, forgeworld bikes are some of the WORST product forgeworld has ever put out from a hobbyist perspective. Finicky, prone to bending, and extraordinarily difficult to put together. I would not recommend anyone get them.

The point is, you can still go pure bikes if you really want


Again, not in any realistic fashion
   
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stratigo wrote:
Balerion wrote:
stratigo wrote:



you only get 19 bikes in one detachment since you can only take 1 captain and they capped bike squads at 6 now, and can't get any more bikes because of the rule of 3. Which is under 2k points.

The way to go around this is forgeworld bikes, but, mate, let me tell you, forgeworld bikes are some of the WORST product forgeworld has ever put out from a hobbyist perspective. Finicky, prone to bending, and extraordinarily difficult to put together. I would not recommend anyone get them.

The point is, you can still go pure bikes if you really want


Again, not in any realistic fashion

The fact is, if you want, you can make a pure bike list. If you don't want to do that, that's a different matter, and your choice. I'm not going to argue with your choices
   
 
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