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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon





Yeah, my list doesn't lose too many CP out the gate (battalion with maybe one extra relic or WT) so the 1CP for the buff to 2 or 3 is decent.
   
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Been Around the Block





I thought everyone was running spawn! Such a useful and cheap wee unit. Either in groups of 3+ with the strat or as single model units for objectives/screening.

My current list has a 3 man squad with the strat to push up easy game for engage points and to generally get in the enemy's face. Meanwhile a single spawn hangs back with the plagueburst crawler to protect it from deepstrikes, or if there are none, to sit on an objective behind LOS terrain.

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Austin, Texas.

I have absolutely began to include at least one spawn in every list. So much objective utility for so little investment

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Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. 
   
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 ninjafiredragon wrote:
I have absolutely began to include at least one spawn in every list. So much objective utility for so little investment


Me too. Unless you have other fast attack units which are mobile that you are willing to throw onto a midboard objective turn 1, otherwise, chaos spawn are the go to for opening move in a DG army. They are super cheap and throwaway and with an advance, they are usually fast enough to get onto a midboard objective turn 1, which is all you need. like in a 5 objective game with both players taking stranglehold, and both players want the middle. Chaos spawn are the perfect trading pieces. Cheap, fast and good.
   
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Austin, Texas.

What are y'all's thoughts on Deathguard in the tournament meta right now? After dhrukari dropped, my hopes went down, and especially after admech, and while I still saw a DG tourney placing pop up here and there, it looked like those were mostly events were those 2 aforementioned boogie men were absent/light.

BUT, with Orks coming into the meta with a bang, both Dhrukari and Admech are a little hurting. Orks have a good matchup into Drukari and a fine one into admech. So, people have been more reluctant to take them to tournaments, reducing their overall meta impact.

What I have noticed be back on the rise in the meta is Space Marines. They deal with Orks well and have mostly good matchups all around.

So enter deathguard. I think we actually generally have a good matchup into space Marines, and into Orks (anyone played enough games vs new Orks to have an idea how we do? So far it's just my guess but I think we have a good matchup into em). So I think the tournament scene might be slightly more friendly to Death guard.

Anyone else have an opinion/thought to share on this?

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Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. 
   
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I don't really play tournament. But my impression is that shooty lists are now fewer. Terrain has a big impact. The big square blocks of GW terrain reduced the power of shooting lists. So even Admech lists don't spam the kind of shooting they could. Similarly, Drukhari lists these days don't spam dark lances the way they can. So this allows DG lists now to stand a chance even if they run into a Drukhari or Admech matchup. And DG is generally good against the rest of the field.
   
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Been Around the Block





I can't speak from any of my own experience, but at the London GT this weekend (second largest GT in the world with 600 players) we had 2 DG players in the top 16, I.e. undefeated, and 6 DG when considering the top 50.
Outside of Ad Mech and DE, that's the joint best showing for any single faction, so clearly we still have legs on the tourney scene.

EDIT - here's the breakdown if you're curious;

Top 16 – 5/5 wins

Admech – 5
Drukhari – 4
Deathguard – 2
SM – 2
CSM – 1 (DG/IW + LoS)
Aeldari – 1
Sisters – 1

Top 50

Admech – 11
Drukhari – 10
Deathguard – 6
GK – 6
SM – 5
Sisters – 3
Deathwatch – 2
Orks – 2
Dark Angels – 2
CSM – 1 (DG/IW + LOS)
Aeldari – 1
Knights – 1

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Australia

Are you able to post the lists used by those two DG players? Curious what they ran.

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 ClockworkZion wrote:
And sure, I assumed too much
 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Also interested in the DG/IW + LOS list. Any list that goes 5-0 playing one single LOS has my respect.
   
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Been Around the Block





Unfortunately not, all I know is David Thorn came 3rd or 4th with a Terminus Est list, so I'm expecting a flood of poxwalkers. BCP is supposed to have the lists but crashes every time I try and check. I guess I'll just wait for the Goonhammer write up on Wed.
   
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Australia

Found the Terminus Est list:

Spoiler:

Battalion Detachment 0CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [99 PL, -4CP, 1,996pts]

Total CP at start: 8

Plague Company: The Harbingers Terminus Est Assault Force

Gifts of Decay [-1CP]: Additional Relics

Gifts of Decay [-1CP]: Additional Relics

HQ

Malignant Plaguecaster [5 PL, 95pts]: 4. Noxious Discharge, 6. Accelerated Entropy, Bolt pistol, Filth Censers

Malignant Plaguecaster [5 PL, 95pts]: 2. Lungrot, 5. Rotwind, Bolt pistol

Typhus [9 PL, 165pts]: 5. Curse of the Leper, 6. Gift of Plagues, Harbinger of Death, Shamblerot, Warlord

Troops

Poxwalkers [5 PL, 100pts]

. 20x Poxwalker: 20x Improvised weapon

Poxwalkers [5 PL, 100pts]

. 20x Poxwalker: 20x Improvised weapon

Poxwalkers [5 PL, 100pts]

. 20x Poxwalker: 20x Improvised weapon

Poxwalkers [5 PL, 100pts]

. 20x Poxwalker: 20x Improvised weapon

Poxwalkers [5 PL, 85pts]

. 17x Poxwalker: 17x Improvised weapon

Elites

Blightlord Terminators [10 PL, -1CP, 215pts]

. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Champion of Disease, Combi-melta, Plague Skull of Glothila

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Reaper autocannon

. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of corruption

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter

Blightlord Terminators [10 PL, 215pts]

. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-melta

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Reaper autocannon

. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of corruption

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter

Blightlord Terminators [10 PL, 215pts]

. Blightlord Champion: Bubotic Axe, Combi-melta

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Reaper autocannon

. Blightlord Terminator: Flail of corruption

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter

. Blightlord Terminator: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter

Deathshroud Terminators [7 PL, 155pts]

. Deathshroud Champion: 2x Plaguespurt gauntlet

. 2x Deathshroud Terminator: 2x Manreaper, 2x Plaguespurt gauntlet

Deathshroud Terminators [7 PL, 155pts]

. Deathshroud Champion: 2x Plaguespurt gauntlet

. 2x Deathshroud Terminator: 2x Manreaper, 2x Plaguespurt gauntlet

Foul Blightspawn [5 PL, -1CP, 85pts]: 4. Arch-Contaminator, Plaguechosen, Revolting Stench-vats, Viscous Death

Tallyman [4 PL, 70pts]: Tollkeeper

Fast Attack

Chaos Spawn [1 PL, 23pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [1 PL, 23pts]: Chaos Spawn

++ Total: [99 PL, -4CP, 1,996pts] ++

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Eldenfirefly wrote:
Also interested in the DG/IW + LOS list. Any list that goes 5-0 playing one single LOS has my respect.


3x3 DS
60 pox
2 decimators
LOS
Discordant
MOP
10 cultist.

In LVO, the best list was;

Best DG list in LVO;

Morty
LoC
4 Deathshroud
2x10 cultist
5 PM
2 defilers
3 cralwers
Greater blightdrone

580 total points. 6-0.

WTF.
   
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Eaton Rapids, MI

Hey all,
Played some more practice games, planning on the Michigan GT next weekend with pure DG, had practiced with Chaos Knights, Knights/DG and versions of pure DG. I thought I was settled on a Poxmongers list almost exactly like the one Bridger almost won what TTT event recently but have found I really miss mobility and especially mobile close combat threats.

I’m practicing a Mortarions Anvil list using a beat stick Prince, flesh mower drones, terminators and PBCs with some good board coverage with Poxwalkers. I’m built for Spread the Sickness, To the Last, and Stranglehold, probably with To the Last being dropped for whatever special secondary per the mission if it looks spicy.

HQ
Death Guard Daemon Prince
Selections: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, Foetid Wings, Gloaming Bloat, Hellforged sword, Plaguechosen, Warp Insect Hive
Malignant Plaguecaster
Selections: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 3. Hulking Physique, 5. Curse of the Leper, Warlord
Troops
Poxwalkers
19x Poxwalker
Selections: 19x Improvised weapon
Poxwalkers
12x Poxwalker
Selections: 12x Improvised weapon
Poxwalkers
19x Poxwalker
Selections: 19x Improvised weapon
Elites
Blightlord Terminators
Blightlord Champion
Selections: Bubotic Axe, Champion of Disease, Combi-bolter, Plague Skull of Glothila
Blightlord Terminator
Selections: Flail of corruption
Blightlord Terminator
Selections: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
Blightlord Terminator
Selections: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
Blightlord Terminator
Selections: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
Blightlord Terminators
Blightlord Champion
Selections: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
Blightlord Terminator
Selections: Blight launcher, Bubotic Axe
Blightlord Terminator
Selections: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
Blightlord Terminator
Selections: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
Blightlord Terminator
Selections: Bubotic Axe, Combi-bolter
Deathshroud Terminators
Deathshroud Champion
Selections: Champion of Disease, 2x Plaguespurt gauntlet, Reaper of Glorious Entropy
2x Deathshroud Terminator
Selections: 2x Manreaper, 2x Plaguespurt gauntlet
Foul Blightspawn
Selections: Revolting Stench-vats, Viscous Death
Fast Attack
Chaos Spawn
Selections: Chaos Spawn
Foetid Bloat-drone
Selections: Fleshmower
Foetid Bloat-drone
Selections: Fleshmower
Heavy Support
Plagueburst Crawler
Selections: 2x Entropy cannon, Rothail volley gun
Plagueburst Crawler
Selections: 2x Entropy cannon, Rothail volley gun
Plagueburst Crawler
Selections: 2x Entropy cannon, Rothail volley gun


I like the Blightlords as small 5 mans, they can shoot and fight and offer just a few more wounds than Deathshroud, even though I still am using one squad of them.
We don’t have the missions for the event yet but when I have them in hand, I’ll adjust accordingly .


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On the subject on souping in Chaos knights with DG. Have you tried souping in just 4 war dogs in a superheavy detachment ? Seems like the autocannon version wardogs would be extra good at killing Drukhari raiders and still decent against Orc vehicles. And the meltagun melee war dogs would be good against generically everything else. The war dogs are also fast enough such that you can easily move one onto a midpoint objective on turn 1 so the list can skip running chaos spawns if you want to save on points. And 4 war dogs are sufficiently cheap such that you can easily still run pox walkers and 3 units of death shrouds for a core DG list. So like maybe 1 meltagun wardog, 3 autocannon war dogs ? Or 1 meltagun, 2 autocannon and 1 moirex ?


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BTW, on another note. A DG Terminus Est list got 3rd at the London GT which had over 500 participants. Mad props to the player David Horn! So Terminus Est is definitely competitive enough and its not a meme list!

On another note. https://euhan1.wixsite.com/threetwo/post/lord-of-skulls-at-lgt-2021-best-in-faction

Link above to a blog by Euan Bedford who ran a very successful DG Lord of Skulls list that went undefeated 5-0 in the London GT. Who says a single Lord Of Skulls can't be competitive!

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