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From the pic, it looks like the venom is a Raider run up the arse end of a Vyper. That's a quick conversion.

Dayum!!!!!!!!!!!

The Drazhar artwork looks amazing, if any model will be in my army it will be drazhar esp if he has phoenix lord stats.

Erasoketa wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:
The Webway portal "model" is funny, but if it's Vortex grenade, then it's only 3" diameter, not 5" diameter?

In the old codex the Webway portal rules used the small blast template. IIRC that's 3", so it wouldn't have changed.

So does that mean that only small, man-sized models will be able to use it, or will very big models like Talos & Raiders be able to use it also?

I think it's been said that the Ravager and the Raider can use it, but I'm not 100% sure.

http://www.pixup.org/bilder/2507/a016HEZG8.jpg

Those look like Incubi on the back of it.

And the Talos does look like a warped Slaaneshi-vibed Wraithlord. Good call, whoever mentioned that.

The Scourges, however, I think are my favorite. They look pretty badass.

I like the art pix. Good stuff. Definitely think Drahzar deserves a new mini to match the art.
Decapitator is cool. And more Mandrakes! A unit will look awesome on the table!

I was looking at my Drazhar mini and I had never noticed the horns he has. One up, one down.
I had only noticed the one side and assumed they were symmetrical.
Not like the new art with the antler/horn/vine twisty things.

I do like the art they put on the WWP. Gives the "Dark City shimmering through water" look well.
If I didn't have a Vortex Template, I might buy one.

This would make a good talos.

Razorwing looks like a spikey version of the CW Eldar Nightwing Fighter http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar/ELDAR-NIGHTWING.html





Maybe the Voidraven Bomber looks like the Dark Eldar Void Dragon Phoenix http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Dark_Eldar/VOID-DRAGON-PHOENIX.html

New talos looks drastically different. I'd expect a new model (hopefully a kit) or something in the next couple months. It might be a random update too. Sort of like the new leman russ or something like that.

Kroothawk wrote:Razorwing looks like a spikey version of the CW Eldar Nightwing Fighter http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Eldar/ELDAR-NIGHTWING.html





Maybe the Voidraven Bomber looks like the Dark Eldar Void Dragon Phoenix http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Dark_Eldar/VOID-DRAGON-PHOENIX.html

I have this model so i will finally have a reason to put it to good use

Venom seems to serve no purpose other than to placate harlequins fans.. It carries half the models and has worse weapons than the raider for 5 points less oh and has less weapon options.

The only thing good about it is that it gets a 5+ invul save that can raider can buy also.. 5 model transport is a bit silly when the transport is overcosted

The Venom costs less points and can carry the minimum Archon plus "retinue" unit or 5 Incubi with handflamers

airmang wrote:yes, the Hellions are plastic.

They are? *WHEW* Then I think they will make for fun conversion fodder. That's my favorite thing to do anyhow. I actually like the new Inccubi, but will hold off til after the rest of my plastics are more or less built up (assuming I really take the plunge)

PLASTIC=AWESOME

Mixed feelings all over for these new pics.
My gripe with the new Ravager is the same gripe I had with the old one: It's too large. It's a vehicle with a 4-man crew, yet it's the size of a transport for 10? It could be half as long and still serve its function convincingly.

Scourges look as I feared they might. Feathers just were not the way they should have gone. Bat wings would be more consistent with the nocturnal feel of the army. And what's with the bird feet and long, craned neck? I like the helmet, but feathers?... Come on...

Talos is awesome.

Mandrakes are awesome. As is the Mandrake Champion. I will field lots of these.

As always, I won't pass my final judgment until I've seen models. But so far, I like the new look. I anticipated being unhappy with some of the new designs, so it's not that big of a deal.

Edit: Anybody know if the Decapitator kept his insta-kill, 'chance to decapitate' rule???

Kan thanks for the linkies to the awesome art! Loves it!

Art is really fine.

But for some reason I was expecting the Scourges to have bat wings, as that is what seems to fit the dark kin. Feathered wings look a bit off and out of place in them even if they´re dyed black and covered in blood. But the bird masks are interesting.

Just like pigeon holing horns to be a representation of Chaos, I think it's just as wrong to assume bat wings are more a representation of evil. Especially since culturally, things like crows and vultures have always filled the evil avian motif. Again, it's perfectly fine if you don't like them. I just don't see a problem w/ dark avian representations for the Scourges.

I dont mean to imply that bat wings are more or less "evil", they (for me) just works better on the spikey and organic DE than feathers, which are too reminiscent of the swooping Hawks. Since the niche of bird-like eldar warriors is already covered by the latter I expected something which evokes another mythological classic figure like dragons or harpies. But still, they are ok for me.

Crafworld eldar and Dark eldar are not Good vs Evil but more rather Spiritual vs materialistic.

Wiglaf wrote:I dont mean to imply that bat wings are more or less "evil", they (for me) just works better on the spikey and organic DE than feathers, which are too reminiscent of the swooping Hawks. Since the niche of bird-like eldar warriors is already covered by the latter I expected something which evokes another mythological classic figure like dragons or harpies. But still, they are ok for me.

Crafworld eldar and Dark eldar are not Good vs Evil but more rather Spiritual vs materialistic.

So Monks vs Rood Boyz?

I like the scourges except for the feet. Makes them look too much like an alien species. I wonder if the plastic helions share some parts with the guys hanging off the raiders?

Normally I'd agree, but in the art the wings are patchy with mechanical bits poking through here and there, dirtied enough to make it clear for me at least, that these ain't no angels. Not the kind that live upstairs anyhow

I heard that the Scourges are actually Hæmonculi creations-- hence their weird, pseudo-mutated appearance.

kestral wrote:I like the scourges except for the feet. Makes them look too much like an alien species. I wonder if the plastic helions share some parts with the guys hanging off the raiders?

Seriously?




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Fetterkey wrote:I heard that the Scourges are actually Hæmonculi creations-- hence their weird, pseudo-mutated appearance.

Nah, they are Dark Elfdars who had the wings "grown" on by the Hæmonculi (p.s. +9001 Internets for spelling it correctly <3) and they make a very lucrative living as messengers/bodyguards.

Cool stuff. I am digging the new fluff for sure.

kestral wrote:I wonder if the plastic helions share some parts with the guys hanging off the raiders?

If it does , thats even better! , i love been able to mix different box set together , yay for plastics :3

LunaHound wrote:

kestral wrote:I wonder if the plastic helions share some parts with the guys hanging off the raiders?

If it does , thats even better! , i love been able to mix different box set together , yay for plastics :3

QFT

Awsome if the Hemon/Scourge thing is true....really a great creepy addition to the army. I like the "Crow" theme they have going ! Maybe it's the old Goth in me! Man every day this just gets better and better!

No one can come dressed as the crow.. Everytime someone throws a costume party like 5 people come dressed as the crow gah!

Scourge-men DIVE!

Them and the jet board makes me think of doing a flash gordon themed DE army. Now that would be scary.

whalemusic360 wrote:Scourge-men DIVE!

Reminds me of. . .

Scourge, the Tracker