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I'm loving the look and feel of the Lumineth stuff so far but...is it really only 4 units in the book?

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm loving the look and feel of the Lumineth stuff so far but...is it really only 4 units in the book?

Nah, there is quite a bit more here is link with some info: https://ageofminiatures.com/lumineth-realm-lords-release/

This is just the special box a few units and the "Early Access" so to speak of the codex.

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm loving the look and feel of the Lumineth stuff so far but...is it really only 4 units in the book?

No. There's at least four or five more units that are not in the box that should be in the battletome.

Ah, thanks guys!

I thought I read here that is was only 4 - I should have done more research!

I'm definitely going to be picking them up eventually, but not right away via a 'special' box.

Too busy building my Tzeentch force and there's a Lord of Change to save up for!

The above link is dead for me.
What was the content?

 Ghaz wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm loving the look and feel of the Lumineth stuff so far but...is it really only 4 units in the book?

No. There's at least four or five more units that are not in the box that should be in the battletome.

Spoiler:

Well 4 units,. 1 monster, couple heroes.

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm loving the look and feel of the Lumineth stuff so far but...is it really only 4 units in the book?

I think the person who mentioned there only being 4 units meant like 4 actual ‘core’ units, which there are - the spearman, archers, cavalry and hammer guys. The rest is heroes or monsters.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm loving the look and feel of the Lumineth stuff so far but...is it really only 4 units in the book?

I think the person who mentioned there only being 4 units meant like 4 actual ‘core’ units, which there are - the spearman, archers, cavalry and hammer guys. The rest is heroes or monsters.

Yea, this, if this is what Alpharius meant then yes, there is only 4 units. Also strangely, there is only 2 non-named Heroes, being the Alarith Stonemage and the Scinthari Cathallar, both mages. There is an oddity in that there is no generic melee or combat hero, unless the Mountain Avatar guys are Heroes instead of Monsters, I know the named one is a hero but assumed the regular Mountain Avatars were going to be monsters not heroes.

Part of me feels they've designed Lumineth to be an army that'll come in two batches. From reading what we know of their lore so far, these are very much both Teclis' and Tyrions people, so I think sometime in the future, maybe a year or two from now, we'll get another release for them that will be the Tyrion half that'll include the more Martial elements and some of the other aspects of the Spirits we've not seen in model form yet. There seems to be evidence to potentially support this, Hysh and Lumineth are split into 8 Nations, with 4 nations being more Teclian aligned and other 4 Tyrionic aligned. From what we are told, Syar, Iliatha, Ymetrica and Zaitrec are the Teclis aligned nations, and considering from the BattRep we know Ymetrica is a sub faction, and from articles recently, Syar and Illiatha are another two, I suspect that Zaitrec will be a 4th and then later one, we'll get another release which will have Tyrion and his 4 nations as it's sub factions, Oultrai, Aurathrai, Helon and Alumnia. This is where i'm guessing we'll get our combat/martial hero options to compensate for the Teclis side, and maybe some of the units for the other spirits (Zenith, Wind, River) to round off and complete the faction as a whole. I could be just nuts but it seems plausible to me from what we know lorewise and what we've seen in model release so far.

Sounds feasible enough. And more good reason for me to wait. Not fan of named characters so just 2 generic mages might get bit old for characters and 4 units likewise.

But we'll see. Lot depends on price of individual boxes.

Lumineth lore article up

Consider the Alarith are like essentially the monks/mages/disciples of the Mountain, I really really hope my predictions of a second wave come true and we'll get to see the disciples of the Zenith, Wind and River. Would love to see like a sword unit that had a whole motive of flowing like river or the wind etc.

this feels like it's half of the lumineth they have planned but they're saving up scultping the rest untill a later date. Looking at you Tyrion.

How many kits did the Ossiarch start with?

 Earth127 wrote:
this feels like it's half of the lumineth they have planned but they're saving up scultping the rest untill a later date. Looking at you Tyrion.

How many kits did the Ossiarch start with?

About 10 or 11 i think. Well easy to check. No new units yet. Sisters got 8 or 9 in first 2 weeks with 7 or 8 2 month later for total of 16.

But yeah clearly leaving room to expand.

GenRifDrake wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm loving the look and feel of the Lumineth stuff so far but...is it really only 4 units in the book?

I think the person who mentioned there only being 4 units meant like 4 actual ‘core’ units, which there are - the spearman, archers, cavalry and hammer guys. The rest is heroes or monsters.

Yea, this, if this is what Alpharius meant then yes, there is only 4 units. Also strangely, there is only 2 non-named Heroes, being the Alarith Stonemage and the Scinthari Cathallar, both mages. There is an oddity in that there is no generic melee or combat hero, unless the Mountain Avatar guys are Heroes instead of Monsters, I know the named one is a hero but assumed the regular Mountain Avatars were going to be monsters not heroes.

Part of me feels they've designed Lumineth to be an army that'll come in two batches. From reading what we know of their lore so far, these are very much both Teclis' and Tyrions people, so I think sometime in the future, maybe a year or two from now, we'll get another release for them that will be the Tyrion half that'll include the more Martial elements and some of the other aspects of the Spirits we've not seen in model form yet. There seems to be evidence to potentially support this, Hysh and Lumineth are split into 8 Nations, with 4 nations being more Teclian aligned and other 4 Tyrionic aligned. From what we are told, Syar, Iliatha, Ymetrica and Zaitrec are the Teclis aligned nations, and considering from the BattRep we know Ymetrica is a sub faction, and from articles recently, Syar and Illiatha are another two, I suspect that Zaitrec will be a 4th and then later one, we'll get another release which will have Tyrion and his 4 nations as it's sub factions, Oultrai, Aurathrai, Helon and Alumnia. This is where i'm guessing we'll get our combat/martial hero options to compensate for the Teclis side, and maybe some of the units for the other spirits (Zenith, Wind, River) to round off and complete the faction as a whole. I could be just nuts but it seems plausible to me from what we know lorewise and what we've seen in model release so far.

I really hope this is true. I was excited for the river, Sky, and zenith units too. I think I will wait until the second wave though, assuming that is the plan.

From Gw website

Lords and heroes 6
Vokmortian
Katkros
Kavalos
boneshaper
Soulreaper
Soulmason

Units 6
Harvester
Crawler
Deathriders
Stalkers
Immortis
Mortek

Nexus
Endless spells

That's 14 kits.

Vokmortian was only kinda/sorta "at launch". He came with Feast of Bones then got released solo later.

It is not unheard of for an AoS release to have this few units etc, but having more is also not unheard of. Already posted my thoughts, I think the Lumineth is clearly split into two releases and there will be another one coming. Just don't expect it to be soon...

tneva82 wrote:
Sounds feasible enough. And more good reason for me to wait. Not fan of named characters so just 2 generic mages might get bit old for characters and 4 units likewise.

But we'll see. Lot depends on price of individual boxes.

I agree with all of the above!

And yes, definitely an army I'm very interested in, but will also be waiting a while to see how it expands to offer more choice, variety, etc.

tneva82 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm loving the look and feel of the Lumineth stuff so far but...is it really only 4 units in the book?

No. There's at least four or five more units that are not in the box that should be in the battletome.

Spoiler:

Well 4 units,. 1 monster, couple heroes.

Six more units. Teclis plus the following five units to be added to the three in the army set...

Seven potentially eight. The battlegoat has an alternate build for a named character and the Stonewardens have a second weapon option that might be its own unit entry.

So despite all their high-mindedness, the Elves still couldn't hold it together, expel their inner darkness, and had yet another great fall.

Seems the Children of Asuryan are as doomed as they ever were.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So despite all their high-mindedness, the Elves still couldn't hold it together, expel their inner darkness, and had yet another great fall.

Seems the Children of Asuryan are as doomed as they ever were.

So true.
Somewhere, Slaanesh is smiling...

Some leaks floating on FB, I don't speak German so whoever wants can check them out before they're taken off. Anyway, LRL can ally only with IDK. Super bummer.

 Earth127 wrote:
From Gw website

Lords and heroes 6
Vokmortian
Katkros
Kavalos
boneshaper
Soulreaper
Soulmason

Units 6
Harvester
Crawler
Deathriders
Stalkers
Immortis
Mortek

Nexus
Endless spells

That's 14 kits.

Characters:
-Katakros
-Vokmortian
-Zandtos/mounted combat lord dual kit
-Support wizard
-Healer wizard
-Fighty wizard

Monsters/War Machines
-Support monster
-Catapult

Multi-model Units
-Infantry
-Cavalry
-Monstrous infantry dual kit

Shared
-Nagash
-Arkhan
-Morghasts

11 kits plus 3 from other armies

Edit: To be clear I am just elaborating for people who may not know all the bonerman names.

 Ghaz wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm loving the look and feel of the Lumineth stuff so far but...is it really only 4 units in the book?

No. There's at least four or five more units that are not in the box that should be in the battletome.

Spoiler:

Well 4 units,. 1 monster, couple heroes.

Six more units. Teclis plus the following five units to be added to the three in the army set...

Spoiler:

Eeh did you even read what i wrote?

 Knight wrote:
Some leaks floating on FB, I don't speak German so whoever wants can check them out before they're taken off. Anyway, LRL can ally only with IDK. Super bummer.

Usually people are pretty diligent about getting those translated out.

I'm sure the leaks will be eventually translated. I'm in no rush to retype the text into Google Translate or trying to figure it with my broken German.

The photos are also on TGA now.

Biggest and most interesting thing I've caught was that the Sentinels(bowmen) have two fire modes. One is 18" with 3+/4+ -1 Rend and 1 damage but requires line of sight while the other is 30" with 4+/4+ no Rend and 1 damage but can be fired outside of LOS.

They have the Sunmetal Weapons rule, but I can't figure out if they deal MWs on hits or wounds of 6s. The Lantern has some funky stuff too.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Biggest and most interesting thing I've caught was that the Sentinels(bowmen) have two fire modes. One is 18" with 3+/4+ -1 Rend and 1 damage but requires line of sight while the other is 30" with 4+/4+ no Rend and 1 damage but can be fired outside of LOS.

They have the Sunmetal Weapons rule, but I can't figure out if they deal MWs on hits or wounds of 6s. The Lantern has some funky stuff too.

The Sunmetal Weapons were shown in the article, they are MW on 6+ unmodified To Hit, and can be buffed by Power of Hysh to inflict MWs on a 5+ instead.

That's for the pikes, specifically. Sometimes units get different traits for similarly named weapons.

Anyways, apparently the Hawk is what lets them target out of LOS?