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Dudeface wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
The crux of the issue is that when people try to say "it's cool because it does XYZ like a real life creature" when it doesn't make sense is going to get questioned. If the statements stop at "It's cool" then that's a different conversation.

Ultimately I dislike it as the model appears to fall into style and creative modelling over function, which is the exact opposite of what nids are about.

They're meant to be hyper evolving into the most efficient form they can manage, what about that skirt makes it the best death leaper it can be? It can't use it to glide, maybe use it to swim, hard to use as a weapon, questionable use for stealth. Or did they just put it on the model because "omg cool caped crusader look", in which case, that's not very Tyranids.

Does not make sense and fails on your point of view because you have your own ideas based on your personal knowledge. The world is bigger than that and guess what people should not stop debating on a public forum if they wish to. Besides you can refute all you want cant you?

And I never suggested people shouldn't debate anything. My point stands that people look at this highly evolved creature designed for a specific purpose to the nth degree can look at it and go "wtf is that about" suggests the design isn't immediately practical. It's a cool mini by all accounts, but doesn't seem very Tyranids to me in the design.

Plus lets be honest, do you honestly think the designer was wanting to create that skirt for a natural predatory reason or because they thought it looked cool?

Im a designer by profession myself so my 'honest" opinion is very biased
I have expressed several reasons to why this could be a biological feature for Leapers since people were debating that quite a lot. Personally I dont need to justify to myself why I like it, we do have gaunts with pistols with magazines on their hands so if I can take that I can take this membrane.
We dont need to know everything about tyranids take this like a sandbox of ideas you personally can expand on, if you wish.

Going back what was on the designer mindset... anything and everything. You could have someone drawing a bridge with octopus ideas and Lictors, someone looking into mind flayers etc or someone just sculpting cool for cool sake. I dont think we will ever know.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Can we please stop arguing over whether something makes sense or not? The conversation keeps going in a loop and we don’t have any real information outside idle speculation

It’s tyranids. And 40k. Practicality doesn’t always make sense. Why do tyranids have hooves when other feet would be stealthier or more effective? You can make the same arguments over other design features too

I don't know, it's the same thing we went through with the stealth dreadnought. That's why I keep going back to the rule of cool, it has a duster/skirt for looking cool and edgy. Sadly that doesn't fit the factions ideals.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Can we please stop arguing over whether something makes sense or not? The conversation keeps going in a loop and we don’t have any real information outside idle speculation

It’s tyranids. And 40k. Practicality doesn’t always make sense. Why do tyranids have hooves when other feet would be stealthier or more effective? You can make the same arguments over other design features too

40k as a whole isn't meant to make sense heh. Why do they drive intercontinental ballistic missiles onto a battlefield to fire at something 100 metres away?

An extra-galactic alien organism should be incomprehensible, not better understood by watching something narrated by David Attenborough.

It has the skirt solely so people say "why the hell does that alien have a skirt?"

 xttz wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Can we please stop arguing over whether something makes sense or not? The conversation keeps going in a loop and we don’t have any real information outside idle speculation

It’s tyranids. And 40k. Practicality doesn’t always make sense. Why do tyranids have hooves when other feet would be stealthier or more effective? You can make the same arguments over other design features too

40k as a whole isn't meant to make sense heh. Why do they drive intercontinental ballistic missiles onto a battlefield to fire at something 100 metres away?

An extra-galactic alien organism should be incomprehensible, not better understood by watching something narrated by David Attenborough.

It has the skirt solely so people say "why the hell does that alien have a skirt?"

Very valid point!

Wonder if you can take this fella then the new Lictors then vLeapers and the new Genestealers and call it quits with a full small vanguard army. Assuming the "new" will happen XD

You’d need a Hero type, as Deathleaper says it can’t be your general.

Maybe a Broodlord? Haven’t properly read that card though.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Broodlord is stepping down to sergeant level. It seems to be a current theme right now

IC as we understand them now, can only join Genesquealers, but nothing I can see preventing it being your army leader.

Noice.

 xttz wrote:


An extra-galactic alien organism should be incomprehensible, not better understood by watching something narrated by David Attenborough.

Well you could always watch the Youtube channel where AI-Attenborough (surprisingly good, honest) reads 40klore, i think they have one on Tyranids as well

Boosykes wrote:
Death leaper looks good. But that price is very high.

What’s the price?

The T&C for the giveaway has it. I believe someone said 37.50GBP, so Deathleaper would be $60USD.

£37.50 is the declared value of the prize draw, so £37.50

That’s Hive Tyrant pricing. For a single centerpiece model, it’s rough, but within normal GW range.

If we are lucky, it will be a box of 2 at that price, with the option to build one as the special character. But I don’t expect that.

Like the way he looks, would be glad to grab him in a big discount box, but don’t like him enough to drop that kind of cash on him.

Was there a release time frame for the Deathleaper?

Afraid not.

Some paint schemes for our bugs https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/13/the-tyranids-of-leviathan-painted-by-the-warhammer-community/

 NAVARRO wrote:
Was there a release time frame for the Deathleaper?

Nope, the Terms&Conditions of the prize draw just say it will be made available once the product is released.

Thanks! What's a couple months waiting when you been waiting for years.
I bet this is going to sell out like hot cakes.

Richard Gray painting on the neurogaunt is sweet!
I also dig the official new colour schemes GW released a few weeks back.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
You’d need a Hero type, as Deathleaper says it can’t be your general.

Maybe a Broodlord? Haven’t properly read that card though.

Could be the Norn Emissary creature- they seem to be infiltrating in the new lore and they aren't a named character. I got the impression from the article that there would be a good sized release of vanguard creatures.

The Norn Emissary is basically going to be a super-heavy sized Lictor based on the lore. Kinda like the Dimachaeron

 Tyran wrote:
The Norn Emissary is basically going to be a Knight sized Lictor based on the lore.

Or an extra sprue for the Hive Tyrant?

I wish we knew more about it.

We'll learn more soon - just got to get past these 2 long long preorder weeks

 silverstu wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
You’d need a Hero type, as Deathleaper says it can’t be your general.

Maybe a Broodlord? Haven’t properly read that card though.

Could be the Norn Emissary creature- they seem to be infiltrating in the new lore and they aren't a named character. I got the impression from the article that there would be a good sized release of vanguard creatures.

Norn Emissary as a Warlord? Unlikely. So far he is rather described as a mono tasked creature that would use other Nids forces as a cover/support for its activities but not as one that would be a dedicated leader of the swarm.

Deathleaper's cloak/skirt could be a second bioform that can detach and go flying off to scout from above. To follow the D&D basis of its design, it's an illithid with a pet cloaker.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Deathleaper's cloak/skirt could be a second bioform that can detach and go flying off to scout from above.

Kinda like Tentaclid from Hive Crone. Cool idea.

More salt needed than being poured out in the 40k news thread:

Excuse me while I go dive into the salt mines of Nantwich...

It'll be nice for 'Nid players if it is true, but I have my doubts.

*dead through salt overdose*

I doubt they had a huge backlog of new sculpts sitting for more than a decade and would not use it until now.

 NAVARRO wrote:
I doubt they had a huge backlog of new sculpts sitting for more than a decade and would not use it until now.

While scale is odd models certainly are known to have wait even decade.