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 Overread wrote:
*dead through salt overdose*

This.

I’m as hopeful and optimistic as the next guy. But no. So much salt. Unhealthy levels.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Overread wrote:
*dead through salt overdose*

This.

I’m as hopeful and optimistic as the next guy. But no. So much salt. Unhealthy levels.

Almost enough for a regular portion of McDonald’s fries, even.

But it’d be so cool to have the whole set of titanic beasties out there. Malefactors and Dactylis and Harridans, oh my.

Yeah, for all the 'insider' knowledge and hype there's preciously little in that screed that could be proven or disproven, it's just 'Lots of stuff cummin', trust me bro'.

 NAVARRO wrote:
I doubt they had a huge backlog of new sculpts sitting for more than a decade and would not use it until now.

I dunno, I wager long term sculptors for/at GW will likely have a backlog of models that make it to design and get sculpted and don't see the light of day for utterly ages. Same as how concept art is made and a lot of that might never make it beyond a few designs that don't get sculpted up or adapted.

So you could argue that "these designs have been ready for decades". Heck most are surprised that the Biovore/Pyrovore and Lictor were not updated in the last 10 years. So it could well be that Tyranids just kept pulling a short straw on getting a production slot and then enough time went by that they were so closer to 10th's planning that GW went "eh give them a load in one go so just hold off for another 3-4 years.

Considering that editions are so close together now it wouldn't surprise me if 11th edition is already being discussed at some levels at GW.

 Overread wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
I doubt they had a huge backlog of new sculpts sitting for more than a decade and would not use it until now.

I dunno, I wager long term sculptors for/at GW will likely have a backlog of models that make it to design and get sculpted and don't see the light of day for utterly ages. Same as how concept art is made and a lot of that might never make it beyond a few designs that don't get sculpted up or adapted.

So you could argue that "these designs have been ready for decades". Heck most are surprised that the Biovore/Pyrovore and Lictor were not updated in the last 10 years. So it could well be that Tyranids just kept pulling a short straw on getting a production slot and then enough time went by that they were so closer to 10th's planning that GW went "eh give them a load in one go so just hold off for another 3-4 years.

Considering that editions are so close together now it wouldn't surprise me if 11th edition is already being discussed at some levels at GW.

I can see something like the 'Codex Bio-Titans' being something that they could not find a slot in the release schedule for, or even planned for FW resin models and completely redesigned to be made in plastic once they decided to basically close Forgeworld for 40k permanently, but that would be an extreme edge case. They haven been known to do some stuff like that in the past, but it's something that happens a few times in a decade or so.

Codex Bio-Titans just seems off to me. It's way too much attention on a niche for Tyranids. Perhaps at one time GW was going to go that path and there was a series of Knight codex for each army envisioned. However it sounds super niche and more like something you'd expect from Titanicus which is more suited to it rather than for 40K.

I can believe that GW might well bring more titans into plastic as we do have Chaos, Imperial and Ork ones. So I could see other races getting them too, but not as separate codex nor even mini codex.



I dunno we know we are getting a good chunk of cool new stuff, so we'll just have to wait and see

 Overread wrote:

Considering that editions are so close together now it wouldn't surprise me if 11th edition is already being discussed at some levels at GW.

Oh most definitely.

 Overread wrote:
Codex Bio-Titans just seems off to me. It's way too much attention on a niche for Tyranids. Perhaps at one time GW was going to go that path and there was a series of Knight codex for each army envisioned. However it sounds super niche and more like something you'd expect from Titanicus which is more suited to it rather than for 40K.

I can believe that GW might well bring more titans into plastic as we do have Chaos, Imperial and Ork ones. So I could see other races getting them too, but not as separate codex nor even mini codex.



I dunno we know we are getting a good chunk of cool new stuff, so we'll just have to wait and see

A whole army of MCs was something they heavily hinted at as a possible alternative army style akin to the Armoured Company for IG and so on, and they tried to make it happen in several incarnations, in Apocalypse and so on. Perhaps 'Bio-Titans' is a slight exaggeration and what they were aiming for was more something Land Raider-sized and up, up to Knight Size. The FW Hierodule et al are 'Titans' in name but barely larger or more massive than Knights, i can just about see it happen. But still, it's a 4chan rumour, fun to fantasize around it, but most probably just made-up BS.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Codex Bio-Titans just seems off to me. It's way too much attention on a niche for Tyranids. Perhaps at one time GW was going to go that path and there was a series of Knight codex for each army envisioned. However it sounds super niche and more like something you'd expect from Titanicus which is more suited to it rather than for 40K.

I can believe that GW might well bring more titans into plastic as we do have Chaos, Imperial and Ork ones. So I could see other races getting them too, but not as separate codex nor even mini codex.



I dunno we know we are getting a good chunk of cool new stuff, so we'll just have to wait and see

A whole army of MCs was something they heavily hinted at as a possible alternative army style akin to the Armoured Company for IG and so on, and they tried to make it happen in several incarnations, in Apocalypse and so on. Perhaps 'Bio-Titans' is a slight exaggeration and what they were aiming for was more something Land Raider-sized and up, up to Knight Size. The FW Hierodule et al are 'Titans' in name but barely larger or more massive than Knights, i can just about see it happen. But still, it's a 4chan rumour, fun to fantasize around it, but most probably just made-up BS.

There was the thingy stompy crusher stampede army of renown in 9th as well.

 Overread wrote:
Codex Bio-Titans just seems off to me. It's way too much attention on a niche for Tyranids. Perhaps at one time GW was going to go that path and there was a series of Knight codex for each army envisioned. However it sounds super niche and more like something you'd expect from Titanicus which is more suited to it rather than for 40K.

I can believe that GW might well bring more titans into plastic as we do have Chaos, Imperial and Ork ones. So I could see other races getting them too, but not as separate codex nor even mini codex.



I dunno we know we are getting a good chunk of cool new stuff, so we'll just have to wait and see

I agree with all of this. I would also buy the absolute gak out of a Codex Bio Titans

tneva82 wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
I doubt they had a huge backlog of new sculpts sitting for more than a decade and would not use it until now.

While scale is odd models certainly are known to have wait even decade.

Yeah. I would believe it if it was just a couple odd models, but full revamps of so many and even titans seems a bit wish listing.

There have been a couple of bits from the rumour engine revealed two-ish years after their Rumour Engine.

The one that jumps immediately to mind is the AoS WH+ subscriber model.

But I can’t think of a mainstream kit which was lurking in storage for a sustained period before being released.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There have been a couple of bits from the rumour engine revealed two-ish years after their Rumour Engine.

The one that jumps immediately to mind is the AoS WH+ subscriber model.

But I can’t think of a mainstream kit which was lurking in storage for a sustained period before being released.

Desolators were supposedly sculpted prior to 8th I saw somewhere, so they've had ~6 years in a drawer.

Hopefully something about that old lore digging will be true, and Malefactor plus Dactylis will be resurrected.

So let’s indulge that wishlisty 4chan post. What would be the 12 new kits?

Already comfirmed:

Gaunts
Deathleaper
Screamer Killer
Neurogaunts
Barbgaunts
Flying prime
Neurotyrant
VR leapers

So that’s already 8 new kits. Another four doesn’t seem out of the question.

Gants
Stealers
Gargoyles
Lictor
Separate Prime model
Plastic Raveners
Shrikes?
Plastic Biovores/pyrovores dual kit

Could all arguably be updated/added.


As for the bio-titans the Screamer Killer is already pretty big, I could see people counting that as a larger model, not knight sized, but look at the Armigers.

I’m trying to wrack my brains about old titans from 90s epic and the only one I can think of is the hilariously named “dominatrix”

We also have the Norn Emissary that we 75% know os coming but 75% don’t know what it is 😛

 General Kroll wrote:
So let’s indulge that wishlisty 4chan post. What would be the 12 new kits?

Already comfirmed:

Gaunts
Deathleaper
Screamer Killer
Neurogaunts
Barbgaunts
Flying prime
Neurotyrant
VR leapers

You forgot Psychophage there

You know what would be freaking weird and awesome at the same time? If they released Zoats with this.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
So let’s indulge that wishlisty 4chan post. What would be the 12 new kits?

Already comfirmed:

Gaunts
Deathleaper
Screamer Killer
Neurogaunts
Barbgaunts
Flying prime
Neurotyrant
VR leapers

You forgot Psychophage there

Oh yes! I thought I was short one but couldn’t quite place it. And it’s one of the cooler new units.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There have been a couple of bits from the rumour engine revealed two-ish years after their Rumour Engine.

The one that jumps immediately to mind is the AoS WH+ subscriber model.

But I can’t think of a mainstream kit which was lurking in storage for a sustained period before being released.

Eldar jetbkes were shown in events decade earlier

Similar mock ups were, but not the kit

The tyranid Knight scale model was being worked on in 2017, along with knight sized models for most other ranges, primarily due to the success of the first knight miniature. (source GW sculptor I sat next to on a plane)

I don't think they will get less than what Necrons got with their refresh at the beginning of 9th. I would even expect more than that.
Leaving out the Indomitus models they got:

2 very big models - Monolith, Silent King, Void Dragon

2 big models - Void Dragon, Canoptek Doomstalker

3 medium/elite models/units - Lokhust Heavy Destroyer, Hexmark Destroyer, Ophydian Destroyers

1 smaller unit - Flayed Ones

2 characters - Chronomancer, Psychomancer

1 terrain piece - Convergence of Dominion

Also a kill team upgrade sprue later

So Tyranids should be getting at least this much in addition to Leviathan

Right now it's a complete coin flip on what Leviathan kits come out as a full kits, or just get released as is. Of all of them I think that the Termagants are the most likely to get a full proper kit. Do the Barbgaunts and Reapers come on the same sprue? I can't remember.

 General Kroll wrote:
So let’s indulge that wishlisty 4chan post. What would be the 12 new kits?

It's entirely possible the 12 kits mentioned don't include the Leviathan stuff. They may have been made for Leviathan after GW decided Nids were in the box.

I'd guess redo's of:
Genestealers
Raveners
Lictors
Biovore/ Pyrovore

plus Deathleaper and the Norn leaves 6 more new kits that don't exist (7 if Deathleaper comes in the Lictor box).
Personally I'd bet on Shrikes as one option to go with the new Winged Prime.

Loopstah wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
So let’s indulge that wishlisty 4chan post. What would be the 12 new kits?

It's entirely possible the 12 kits mentioned don't include the Leviathan stuff. They may have been made for Leviathan after GW decided Nids were in the box.

I'd guess redo's of:
Genestealers
Raveners
Lictors
Biovore/ Pyrovore

plus Deathleaper and the Norn leaves 6 more new kits that don't exist (7 if Deathleaper comes in the Lictor box).
Personally I'd bet on Shrikes as one option to go with the new Winged Prime.

The rumourdude is not too clear about it, but the release is not actually limited to these 12 kits, he said it was 'at a point' 8-12 kits but that the Biotitan stuff and another wave for 10th proper got added onto that. Going by that, the total has to be closer to 16-20 kits.

Tsagualsa wrote:

Loopstah wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
So let’s indulge that wishlisty 4chan post. What would be the 12 new kits?

It's entirely possible the 12 kits mentioned don't include the Leviathan stuff. They may have been made for Leviathan after GW decided Nids were in the box.

I'd guess redo's of:
Genestealers
Raveners
Lictors
Biovore/ Pyrovore

plus Deathleaper and the Norn leaves 6 more new kits that don't exist (7 if Deathleaper comes in the Lictor box).
Personally I'd bet on Shrikes as one option to go with the new Winged Prime.

The rumourdude is not too clear about it, but the release is not actually limited to these 12 kits, he said it was 'at a point' 8-12 kits but that the Biotitan stuff and another wave for 10th proper got added onto that. Going by that, the total has to be closer to 16-20 kits.

Yes and thats why most of us think thats a bit tooooo optimistic maybe?

Loopstah wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
So let’s indulge that wishlisty 4chan post. What would be the 12 new kits?

It's entirely possible the 12 kits mentioned don't include the Leviathan stuff. They may have been made for Leviathan after GW decided Nids were in the box.

I'd guess redo's of:
Genestealers
Raveners
Lictors
Biovore/ Pyrovore

plus Deathleaper and the Norn leaves 6 more new kits that don't exist (7 if Deathleaper comes in the Lictor box).
Personally I'd bet on Shrikes as one option to go with the new Winged Prime.

I'd say Raveners won't be done. Stealers, Lictors and Vores absolutely. On top of that Shrikes and some critter based on the Red Terror as a character. I think Old One Eye could get his own character kit.

I remember looking at the Necron refresh and thinking they got a lot of stuff- how many kits did they get? Another guy with good credentials has said there's a lot of stuff coming, probably not as much in that post, but a good lot of kits.He didn't confirm any specifics and couldn't comment of LoW. Crons got a monolith, The Dragon and the Silent King as big kits as well as those scenery pieces - I wonder there might be a Nid scenery kit- maybe reclamation pools/spore chimneys or something that boosts synapse?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Do the Barbgaunts and Reapers come on the same sprue? I can't remember.

Only SC and Neurotyrant share a sprue. The rest either have the full size sprue for themselves or share the ''joined'' sprues that can be split for 2 separate sprues.

 NAVARRO wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

Loopstah wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
So let’s indulge that wishlisty 4chan post. What would be the 12 new kits?

It's entirely possible the 12 kits mentioned don't include the Leviathan stuff. They may have been made for Leviathan after GW decided Nids were in the box.

I'd guess redo's of:
Genestealers
Raveners
Lictors
Biovore/ Pyrovore

plus Deathleaper and the Norn leaves 6 more new kits that don't exist (7 if Deathleaper comes in the Lictor box).
Personally I'd bet on Shrikes as one option to go with the new Winged Prime.

The rumourdude is not too clear about it, but the release is not actually limited to these 12 kits, he said it was 'at a point' 8-12 kits but that the Biotitan stuff and another wave for 10th proper got added onto that. Going by that, the total has to be closer to 16-20 kits.

Yes and thats why most of us think thats a bit tooooo optimistic maybe?

That's more than most factions after 2 full waves of releases, so seems sus.

Dudeface wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

Loopstah wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:
So let’s indulge that wishlisty 4chan post. What would be the 12 new kits?

It's entirely possible the 12 kits mentioned don't include the Leviathan stuff. They may have been made for Leviathan after GW decided Nids were in the box.

I'd guess redo's of:
Genestealers
Raveners
Lictors
Biovore/ Pyrovore

plus Deathleaper and the Norn leaves 6 more new kits that don't exist (7 if Deathleaper comes in the Lictor box).
Personally I'd bet on Shrikes as one option to go with the new Winged Prime.

The rumourdude is not too clear about it, but the release is not actually limited to these 12 kits, he said it was 'at a point' 8-12 kits but that the Biotitan stuff and another wave for 10th proper got added onto that. Going by that, the total has to be closer to 16-20 kits.

Yes and thats why most of us think thats a bit tooooo optimistic maybe?

That's more than most factions after 2 full waves of releases, so seems sus.

I'm not adding boilerplate 'It's 4chan and probably trolling' to every single post discussing it, i already said it thrice