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I got this from a thread started by pompeyladbfp on TWF, thread here:

http://warhammer.org.uk/PhP/viewtopic.php?t=27000

If you go to the link for the new Hall of Heroes tournament rules for 2007 (see below), the last pages tells you that the legal BA list is the one printed in Canadian WDs 13 & 14. Anything this big has got to be in the US and other editions as well, I presume.

http://ca.games-workshop.com/CommunityNew/hoh/HOHdownload/HoH-PlayersGuide07.pdf

Obviously there are no details yet, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that they'll include Combat squads. 

Hey Canadians!  How soon do you expect to see WD 13?

March is White Dwarf #10. That doesn't seem like a long wait... yet. Its about time Ca WD has something substantial in it. I've been ranting since the first issue there is way too much adverts and very little content. Not much to impress a veteran gamer, never cared about painting masterclass and I never will. I miss the 'ol Us version.

Whoa, big news. FYI this months Canadian WD is #10

http://ca.games-workshop.com/WhiteDwarf/CAWhiteDwarf.htm

Chaos (Version 3)?

Something seems fishy about this. Why would they use the 3rd printing (version) of the Chaos codex when there is a 4th printing out? Why would they include the Ulthwe Strike Force when it doesn't correctly work with the 4th edition Eldar codex?

For all we know, what gets printed in Ca WD 13 & 14 could be a re-printing of the current codex (for some unknown reason) rather than a new version.

I'm just really skeptical because the move doesn't make any sense--AFAIK they haven't stopped selling the BA codex and they have stopped printing new rules in WD.

In short, count me in as a skeptic. I'll believe this one when I see it.

Actually Yakface retailers can't order blood angel codexs for some time.
In January the eve n discontinued all of the blood angel specific models.

I agree with yak. I saw this rumour over a month ago at warseer and since they dont print rules in WD anymore, totally removing any semblance of usefulness from the mag, I am not seeing this occuring. But it wouldnt be the first time I have been suprised.

Bbut this is compelling evidence to say the least that GW is actually forewarning the public about the printing.

I would love to play in a canadian GT so i can use the new eldar rules and play a ulthwe strike force. MMMMMM cheap BS4 warwalkers and a really good reason to use gaurdians again.

IF it's true I"ll break out my Blood Angels for some action. Unless the rules suck.
I guess they'll be left in the box for a while longer yet.

Posted By Zubbiefish on 03/07/2007 6:34 PM
IF it's true I"ll break out my Blood Angels for some action. Unless the rules suck.
I guess they'll be left in the box for a while longer yet.

Their rules are still pretty bofo right now. I can only imagine a new army list would probably nueter them a bit (although you never do know with GW).

So I think you should get some games in now while you can still do the maximum amount of damage.

 

Foda:  Thanks for the info man. I did not know that.

 

Hey guys,
There is a "get you by" Blood Angel list coming in White Dwarf. I believe it is the June issue. There will be two parts - background in the May issue and the list in the June issue. No new models or anything, just a list to tide people over. I am glad they are doing this, as it doesn't take away from the Studio resources on other Codex books, and gives players something to use!
Jeff H.

Thanks for the update jeff.

Hopefully this is a sign of things to come with GW, as WD is merely a shadow of what it was without any useable content such as trial rules, chapter approved, etc.

This will be the first rules printed in WD in how long? I wouldnt know myself as I stopped buying them shortly after GW UK announced that WD would no longer have such content.

Jeff do you know if this is a reprint of the existing codex list or if it has been modified in any way?

No clue what it will entail. I believe it is a new list, but I don't know.

I don't mean to be a negative nancy here but are things so terrible for Blood Angels players that they must wait a while for their new army book to be released so they get a new set of rules to use while waiting?

Why isn't something like this happening for the Orks instead, who are in need a rules update more than most anyone else? I can understand it if they're pulling their dex from print, but it's not like these WD will be around in stores for people to purchase after the month they come out, so what's the deal?

Posted By Voodoo Boyz on 03/08/2007 10:25 AM
I don't mean to be a negative nancy here but are things so terrible for Blood Angels players that they must wait a while for their new army book to be released so they get a new set of rules to use while waiting?

Why isn't something like this happening for the Orks instead, who are in need a rules update more than most anyone else? I can understand it if they're pulling their dex from print, but it's not like these WD will be around in stores for people to purchase after the month they come out, so what's the deal?

possibly because orks are closer on the release schedule than blood angels are. meaning, the space vampires still have quite some time to see anything and the "revision" is a quick fix, rather than a full revamp. A revamp the orks need and are getting..

negative nancys just need to quit sipping so much "no love" tea and just enjoy the company for a bit.. otherwise, your tears will make the tea very bitter.. 

Because Blood Angels don't need to be remade from the ground up, nor do they need new kits. Hell this is good news, becuase it means chaos will likely be the only MEQ for the next several years (which is a good thing).

Yes orks need a revamp, I'm with you there, but not a little blurb in a white dwarf and not without new models. Personally, I think there'd be alot more whining from ork players if it was orks getting rules in WD. They deserve a real codex and new models, not a little update and no new models.


The dex has been pulled from print months ago. Also, the rules are apparently going to be posted on the web too (probably a few months after the WD).

Yes, but as far as I was aware the BA were still going to get their own dex eventually.

I think it's probably because the orks got their stopgap as the Klans lists, albeit a long time ago, and their book is on the horizon, unlike the BA.

Eventually yes, but I think consensus is that Blood Angels need a little fixing to make them work properly, fixing that is simple to do most likely and can be done by people not working on the orks and chaos. I would imagine they are picking things that they can quickly fix for now without taking away from everything else.

Man do I hope they nerf Death Company!!!!!!!

So does this end the ban on official rules changes in WD? It seems like it.

If the new list shuts up the complainers I'm all for it. But I doubt it will. Even if it follows the pattern of the current codexs and is weaker than the CSM. They will continue to complain.

My guess would be that the list is ready, but they don't have any models to release with it. The Blood Angels and Dark Angels rules wise don't really need their own codexs. Both could have been covered by a page of rules in the CSM each. Either way I'll be happy to have a new list.

I like this actually. Many may complain, but atleast they will get feedback regardng how the list plays before they make a dex.

if they did that with the DA, I am sure alot of DW players wouldnt feel so disenfranchised about that particular army schism.

Even if the codex that GW makes doesnt go their way, atleast they had their say regarding the issue, unlike other armies before it. This could turn out to be a very good idea.

I'm happy that they're doing it.
I hope that they do something in terms of making Death Company not "free".
It's the thing that is the most controvercial.
I love my Space Vampires to bits but it's hard to play to win when there area large number of people who figure it's just 'cause of the "free" DC that you stomped them.
It cheapens hard fought victorys and I almost feel guilty for playing them at all.
I want something I can play with that doesn't get me dirty looks.

Hoooaaa man no way your going to fit the DA codex into a page in the smc. It a bunch of changes. Heck its no where near the same. Besides if you favorite codex ended up as a page in anothers book you would not be happy.
New fluff, new rules,new style of play. No way thats going into a page.

Death company FREE? come now the choices for DC come from terminators, and any other squad. The chaplain is very expensive, they are very random as to how much you get and thus make play harder, and last  the fact that BA have a good chance of not shooting do to blood rage.

The fact there a cc oriented army with bolters???

And lets not forget how small a BA army is.

Did i mention that with DC it makes it very easy to not have a scoring unit fast.  

Death company is paid for in points and in MANY other ways.

 

 

I know how you feel. I stopped playing Blood Angels because I couldn't handle all of the flack I was recieving for it. It was my first time being publically shamed. Hell at the time I didn't even play competitively and I didn't want to be cheesey. So I quit BAs and they finally left me alone.

I have regreted it ever since. Only recently have I gotten back into the army and I won't give it up again. If someone doesn't like my army they can go get bent.

Dark Angels feel bad about themselves and BAs have bad tempers, Otherwise they're just Space Marines. The differences could easily be covered in a page of rules. And it wouldn't bother me if I didn't get my own book. I feel that having so many SM codexs is part of what's wrong with 40k. Having one SM book for all of them would mean that we would be two alien codexs ahead right now.

Its genius to take the number one selling army in the game and break it up that way....Look at it from a money standpoint, GW sure does.
I really like the fact that SOOOO many people that play marines now have a very wide selection to choose from. And not one of them plays the same. Its almost like haveing differant races there so differant now.

Dont take the fluff and fun out of someone elses pot of gold man.

Posted By Zubbiefish on 03/08/2007 2:30 PM
I want something I can play with that doesn't get me dirty looks.

Amen.  I'm really tired of it.

You guys want people not to give you dirty looks when you play BA? Thats lame. I play Ba once in a while and if somebody gave me a dirty look I would tell them to kiss my @A::S: and if they donmt like it cos its so "unbalanced" go buy a BA army for themselves.

As for the rumours We will see. When it does not happen I will sit back an laugh as I dont think they publish rules in WD anymore.