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yes, nerds we are.

And that Genshiken looks pretty cool, I might have to pick that up....hahaha, I am a comic junky.

Thanks though Kilkrazy, that looks like a good one.

   
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Hey, wait a minute, if the anthros/bird people don't have opposable thumbs or otherwise have trouble gripping like humans do, how the hell do they fight with swords? How do they make swords?

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Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.


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I don't see any Nazi's.



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The sad thing is, a couple houses down my street look like the ones from that village.....

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Well, Godwin's law only states that as a discussion grows longer, the likelihood of nazi-references grows bigger. It is a later application that says you automatically loose the thread if you are the first to validate Godwin's law, preferrably by irrelevant connections. But i must admit I really like that tradition, so I have to concede defeat here even if the connection to nazi was at least partly valid. So:


I loose.


My revenge will be that quite a few of you will go "Oh, no, f-ck you, I havn't thought of The Game for months"
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PS: FoxPhoenix: Maybe I should go to Alaska to do some LARPing

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!! Stop, please, my sides are hurting!!!!

Ok, calming down....

I've LARPED, I've roleplayed, I've Video gamed, wargammed, RPGed, Cosplayed (if you count Gen Con some 8 years ago).

I've also re-enacted, done 14th centry fencing (WMA), medievel carpentry, Paintball, Airsoft, Laser Tag, Virtual Reality (You know, the computer stuff with a set of goggles on) I'm a pagan Druid (religious belief, not fictional) and many other weird and wonderful things.

I'm married, two kids, successful well paid and respected job in the Engineering Communication market, and yes I'm a geek, nerd, what ever you want to call me, but I'm also happy, and thats the biggy for me!

As for the Perry's doing re-enactment, they also used to LARP (which is where my wife met them far too many years ago in Lincoln) now they still re-enact, and every now and again see Alan at fairs with his cute kid both in tudor costume and looking good with it!

You want to know nerds? Footie fans (Soccer to you "Yanky Devils") who can quote the score from a game their team played some 20 years ago, what minute the goal was scored and by who... now THAT'S nerdy!!

Anything you get obsessed by is nerdy to someone! Defending or ridiculing one or other is just plan daft!

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BrookM wrote:The only problem with war reenactment groups is the high amount of oversized BIG people trying to pass their selves off as highly motivated 101st Screaming Eagles or Waffen SS, this while they strain to get out of the bloody jeep or window.


That's always an issue and it's caused by the desire for far too many people to portray the glamorous "elite" units rather than the bog standard infantrymen that made up the majority of every army. The big reenactor issue and the over-representation of elite units is a topic that gets discussed alot on reenactment forums. It's certainly a widespread thing. here in the Texas WW2 scene for instance Waffen SS and Falschimjager impressions outnumber Heer by about five to one!

There is nothing wrong with a larger person playing, but you really should pick an impression that fits you best. For example I'm getting a bit older and pack a few extra pounds myself. I would look pretty silly trying to protray a lean and mean meth-fueled Waffen SS trooper. (although to be totally fair the loose fitting SS camo smock does hide the gut better than does many uniforms!) So my primary impression is that of an NCO in a Volksgrenadier division in the closing stages of the war. It's much closer in keeping with my age and level of physical fitness.

TR

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Cuba'ing the thread slightly, I can agree its the same all over and for differing periods.

I re-enact medieval period (from early with the EMA to Wars of the Roses, easier to say "Medieval" then to explain the differences!)

Too few archers, too many clankies, but everyone wants to wear tin! What can I say, it looks too cool not to want to wear it!

There are less "Fat B'Stards" in medieval however, something to do with lugging about 7 stone of armour around the field seams to preclude most of the really over weight guys! :-)

And another thing, the whole "Safety" thing, I'm our groups safety officer, we take safety very seriously and train to be safe, so we can get away with a different level of combat in differing instances!

On a mass field, no stabs, no head shots, heavily pulled blows! On the tournament field, with appropriate agreement, FULL CONTACT...... 3 minutes of putting EVERYTHING YOU GOT into hitting the other guy with pretty much all the strength you can muster, with a 6 ft two handed sword, while trying to stop him doing the same to you! Excellent fun, and with a supprisingly low injury rate, something to do with wearing full plate I suspect! :-)

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One of the things I wanted to get away from a bit in the LRP game I run, Hyborian Tales (based on Robert E. Howard's original 1930s "Conan" stories) was the LRP cliche of the massively overweight & out of condition (or, equally bad, the massively underweight, can barely lift himself let alone that oversized sword) "mighty barbarian". So, we have a so-far-never-used rule that people are expected to look like they really CAN do at least some of the stuff like have superhuman strength/toughness, if they want to spend points on those in-game advantages.

It's worked pretty well so far. We insist on real armour for those who want to wear it, & a weekend of adventuring might consist (as the last one did) of three ten-mile hikes up the Welsh mountains, often through wind & rain, so the less barbarian-looking types don't often do too well. Plus, because we tend towards that WYSIWYG approach, we get some other fun stuff coming out of that -- like the barbarian who pulled himself across a rope bridge, despite 4 or 5 of us playing zombies, trying to drag him into our plague pit beneath, just by using his arm strength and his sheer grit. Or you get the guy who said, quite honestly, "I'm a bit overweight, so though I'm playing a soldier, I want to be more of the corrupt, villainous, bullying kind of soldier sometimes depicted by Howard, rather than some kind of buff barbarian type..."

And I still reserve the right to someday require a prospective barbarian type to demonstrate physical fitness with a kettlebell, or some hill sprinting, or something.

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Sorry if this has been answered but whats the difference between SCA and LARP? I see a herd of tents and guys in armor/padded weapons occasionally in my trip through Giddings.

I'd proffer re-enactors are a different species. At least in the South, you'll often see historical re-enactments of Civil War battles and a few revolutionary war battles. After all, firing a cannon is kewl . I believe the UK is even more into it, and I see Japan does it as well. France, not so much...

EDIT: I am not assessing nerdiness here. After 30-its all just fun and games. Now I can think of geeks within given hobbies that we all should rightly despise .

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Heard of that system, like the idea, but 3 ten miles hikes in armour.... not my idea of fun.... Purely personal of course and Cudos to those who do it, I prefer my own torture of hiking round Berkley in 4 stone of chain and plate legs on one of the hottest days of the year! :-)

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Sidstyler wrote:Hey, wait a minute, if the anthros/bird people don't have opposable thumbs or otherwise have trouble gripping like humans do, how the hell do they fight with swords? How do they make swords?


Then obviously, they're a furry race, duh(unless they're playing Kitsune/Hu Li Jing, but you can look into Japanese/Chinese mythology as to why that is)!

That was one of my biggest gripes was when the Rules Guys at Phoenix made Blood Kin(our mammalian anthro catch all race created when a portion of Lycanthrope players complained about having to go and apply makeup only when it turned to night on certain weekends and thus rarely ever getting to use their Racial Bonus) able to use weapons and not be restricted to Claws(Boffer physreps of hands about 1 foot long as non-Boffer physical contact during fights wasn't allowed).

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Druidic wrote:Heard of that system, like the idea, but 3 ten miles hikes in armour.... not my idea of fun.... Purely personal of course and Cudos to those who do it, I prefer my own torture of hiking round Berkley in 4 stone of chain and plate legs on one of the hottest days of the year! :-)


I can totally see that. It's not intended to be for everyone -- I just wanted to offer something a bit different!

Most people didn't wear full armour on all 3 days, admittedly... in fact, a lot didn't bother with any. A couple of our regular players play Stygian sorcerers, so are mostly unencumbered other than robes. (As an aside, though I play Dark Angels in 40K, I'm always amused at the thought of just how impractical it is to wear floor-length robes for real, on a battlefield -- let alone floor-length robes OVER full armour... but LRP does give one a different perspective on many things; my favourite is just how tough it is to hide in the woods, for real, even from fellow amateurs. TV & movies make these things look way too easy!)

I do medieval re-enactment too. I've only made it to Berkeley a couple of times, though -- there are only so many weekends in the year... I re-enact with British Plate Armour Society, generally.

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Kilkrazy wrote:There is a hobby which consists of stacking and unstacking plastic cups as quickly as possible.


I've seen eight year olds do this in a matter of seconds. It looks amazing when done quickly. LARPing does not look amazing. Ever.

   
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RPG once i saw some people acting like they where actually their characters in the game world of warcraft.

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Yeah, I have to say that cup stacking thing is crazy impressive, you tube it, it will blow your hair back.

This thread has been really enlightening. So when you LARP, or reenact, or whatever, do you stay in character all the time? That would be crazy. I just can't imagine trying to act like a bird man for an entire weekend, but I am not the acting type at all.

The only time I ever found myself thinking I was an animal was way back in my experimentative early years of college, during a long and strange night, if you get my drift! It wasn't that cool. I couldn't imagine doing that in a normal state of mind for fun!

Although, back in college I drove a forklift for the teamster union and we used to work all the conventions in San Diego. At the Comic Con there (which is awesome, by the way, check it out if you are into geek culture) I saw a guy in Star Wars Storm Trooper armor that never came out of character. He assigned himself to escorting one of my coworkers and would even stand guard while he went to the bathroom, it was really funny. He saw another guy dressed up as a jedi and they had a duel to the death, which was a riot.

   
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Frazzled wrote:Sorry if this has been answered but whats the difference between SCA and LARP?

It's the difference between Hercules and Hermes:
- SCA is 200+pounders in full plate hitting each other with rattan sticks.
- LARP is sub-175 pounders in regular clothes hitting each other with PVC piping. Or beanbags.

If you are big and strong, you should play SCA. If you are light and quick, you LARP.

The difference is that a LARPer might tickle a SCA player "to death", but cannot take a "good" hit back from a SCA player.

   
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Sorry if this has been answered but whats the difference between SCA and LARP?


The big difference is that the LARPers make no bones about the fact that they are involved in a fantasy role playing game, while the SCAers are in denial. They bill themselves as a historical organization (although they do have enough sense not to go so far as to call themselves a "reenactment group") but they are not. Since they have no recognized authenticity standard (what they do have is restricted to a single sentence: "an attempt at pre-1600 garb) , have an over-broad time span (any culture that falls into the pre-1600 period is fair game to draw a persona from), and they devide themselves into a phlephora of fantasy "kingdons" they are far closer to LARPing than they are legitimate reenacting. Amongst reenactors, the SCA is a bad joke. Real medieval reenactors such as those more commonly found in the UK and Europe hold them in utter contempt.

Now that's not to say that there are not some people in the society who take their historical persona seriously. There are. Some people do work in p[eronal development and costuming so good that they would be well at home in real reenactment societys, but they are a tiny minority. Far more common are the "we're here for the beer" crowd for whom any historical aspect of the hobby is meaningless. Sit down at an SCA event's feast table and you are likely to have a fantasy viking (complete with furs and horned helmet) at one elbow and a poorly done Scots Highlander (with a Japanese katana at his belt of course) at the other. And no, I'm not exagerating.

TR
Who fell for the "we are a historical society" line circa 1989 or so and was involved with the group for a number of years. The full contact stick fighting was fun and I enjoyed the company of a number of people I knew in the society, but the rest was a joke...

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I keep hearing the girl thing come up so I did some quick searches....




and I got these from a website used in arguments past on this very discussion, and google brought up...



who says they all gotta look like Fiona the Ogre a page and a half back

FYI: search for female nerds on google for long enough you get female suicide bombers... *sigh* and use moderate search...

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Trench Raider, do you actually hit each other in re-enactments? Well, the battles with swords obviously. Honestly, I would be a "here for the beer" kind of guy, and for the physical conflict. I think it would be fun to go out and beat the gak out of other like minded people with giant swords and what not, then get hammered.

Sounds like my rugby club was! Every game we had two kegs of beers on the sidelines from our sponsor. As soon as you came out, you hit the keg! Great fun, and we all took the games very seriously and were in great shape (for the Americans, in Rugby you usually do not go back in the game once you come out).

But how is reenacting a battle where you pretend to be General Custard, a German soldier, or what ever, not like LARPing? Aren't you both still playing pretend? Does the costume being more authentic make it less make believe?

But then, no matter what, I would feel stupid wearing a costume on any day other than halloween. Sitting at a feast table in a kilt with a samurai sword would be pretty lame.

   
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To me it isn't a question on what event is more nerdy then another. Rather, I base my nerd hierarchy on the level of depth the hobby is taken to.

1. On average how many hours per week do you spend on your hobby? (if you are spending 60-70 hours online playing a MMRPG you need an intervention and are right up there in the "most nerdy")

2. What percentage of your income have you invested in your hobby? If you make a ton of money you can buy a ton of stuff, but if your hobby has prevented you from moving out of your parents basement or eating nothing but rahmen noodles you are really nerdy.

3. Do you spend more time in your imaginitive world then the real world?

4. Can you hold a job or go to school?

So you can do any hobby, but not be high on the nerd poll.

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Flashman wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:LARPing does not look amazing. Ever.


I think this looks pretty amazing. :p




None of that was staged... Outlore looks & feels that good, every year.

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asugradinwa wrote:To me it isn't a question on what event is more nerdy then another. Rather, I base my nerd hierarchy on the level of depth the hobby is taken to.

1. On average how many hours per week do you spend on your hobby? (if you are spending 60-70 hours online playing a MMRPG you need an intervention and are right up there in the "most nerdy")

2. What percentage of your income have you invested in your hobby? If you make a ton of money you can buy a ton of stuff, but if your hobby has prevented you from moving out of your parents basement or eating nothing but rahmen noodles you are really nerdy.

3. Do you spend more time in your imaginitive world then the real world?

4. Can you hold a job or go to school?

So you can do any hobby, but not be high on the nerd poll.


Here's my hierarchy.

1. Can you take care of yourself?
2. Can you take care of those who rely on you?

I think the world needs people who live inside their imaginations.

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Reecius wrote:So when you LARP, or reenact, or whatever, do you stay in character all the time?


It depends -- when you play 40K, are all your armies expertly painted & beautifully converted, and all your scenery beautiful, all the time?

Some LRP games expect people to be in-character more-or-less all the time -- though even then, it's an ideal, rather than something that's achieved all the time... Others, with less experienced players or less stringent rules, don't.

Re-enactment groups vary, too, from the "in-character on the field; otherwise, probably not" approach, which is fairly typical of battle re-enactment groups, to the more full-on, always in-character approach of some living history groups.

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SCA = Society of Creative Anachronism
Obviously not a name for people who take themselves too seriously. Although most people focus on the dressing up an hitting each other with rattan sticks, as I understand there are entire chapters dedicated solely to Roman and early medieval cooking, or 14th C Flemish needlepoint, or something like that.
LARP = Live-Action (as opposed to stop-motion - "I do *stops, rolls dice* this and then he does *stops, rolls dice* that) Role Playing, and LRP = Live (direct, in the flesh) Role Playing, two names for the same beast, are about players taking on a persona and acting as that persona for the length of the event. (Whether they manage to stay in character for the entire time, or whether they should, is a different point.) Historic or fantastic references are not a must. There is Fantasy (Low or High) roleplaying, Historic or semi-historic roleplaying, contemporary, futuristic, science-fiction and alternate realities roleplaying. Also, the way the game is played ranges from 'interactive theatre' to BloodBowl compettions. There`s a sportive element (the 'Fighties'), a social/diplomatic element (the 'Talkies'), a dramatic element (the 'Dramatists'), and a geofictional element ('Game Control'). Some do without fighting, some without 'talking' and some even manage to do without drama. Like reenactment and wargaming, the brunt of the hobby comprises making stuff and preparing your equipment. The game is the culmination of spent effort.

Someone said here that reenactment is more accepted by the mainstream because they perform some kind of function. I politely disagree. They are more accepted because they put on a show and invite others to come and look. This makes them more involving for mainstream people. LRP hasn`t done this until now, but there`s a big Pirate-event coming up, in a historic site near Portsmouth, that`s aiming to draw a large paying, non-playing audience, that will - up to a certain extent, interact with the players. (They`ll get robbed by pirates. )
   
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ah ok, thanks Lavlin, that was really informative.

I was in New Orleans (Fantastic city, go and visit, you will love it) yast year during the Pirate convention and that would be LRPing I guess. They all had on crazy intricate costumes and walked aournd the streets in character getting drunk and having fun. They would give rum to people and sang pirate songs and what not, it actually looked like fun because they didn't take themselves too seriously.

I have some buddies that do SCA and they all have Roman gear and fight in formation and what not, and it sounded like fun. They would meet up, fight a battle with padded weapons and then go to a bar afterwords to have a few cold ones.

   
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Reecius wrote:I was in New Orleans (Fantastic city, go and visit, you will love it)


Lies.

I lived there 10 years, the place is a gak hole(and appropriately smells like it, too). The only good thing is the food and Galactic Games. I'm hoping I never have to live Louisiana again.

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Platuan4th wrote:
Sidstyler wrote:Hey, wait a minute, if the anthros/bird people don't have opposable thumbs or otherwise have trouble gripping like humans do, how the hell do they fight with swords? How do they make swords?


Then obviously, they're a furry race, duh(unless they're playing Kitsune/Hu Li Jing, but you can look into Japanese/Chinese mythology as to why that is)!

That was one of my biggest gripes was when the Rules Guys at Phoenix made Blood Kin(our mammalian anthro catch all race created when a portion of Lycanthrope players complained about having to go and apply makeup only when it turned to night on certain weekends and thus rarely ever getting to use their Racial Bonus) able to use weapons and not be restricted to Claws(Boffer physreps of hands about 1 foot long as non-Boffer physical contact during fights wasn't allowed).


I honestly understand almost nothing in this post.

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